Volume could be turned down on Croxfest after residents raise concerns

Volume could be turned down on Croxfest after residents raise concerns

Volume could be turned down on Croxfest after residents raise concerns

First published in News Watford Observer: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Reporter

The volume could be turned down on a Croxley Green festival after residents raised concerns that the popular event causes a public nuisance.

This is due to be the fourth year that Croxfest takes place on The Green, but loud noise coming from the event could see the sound being dialled down.

Michael Beattie lives about one kilometre from The Green and said that for the past three years his enjoyment of his home has been "blighted" by the music and tannoy announcements coming from the event.

At a Three Rivers District Council licensing sub-committee meeting on Wednesday, Mr Beattie said: "All we are asking for is consideration for ourselves that the sound shouldn’t be such a nuisance for eight hours or ten hours."

Mr Beattie said he and his family, as well as those living in the hamlet, cannot enjoy their "peaceful" properties when the event takes place.

He added: "If the committee don’t agree with us you are condemning us for the rest of our lives to have this noise pollution every year."

Croxfest is situated on The Green where Sarratt Road meets The Green. A premises licence was first applied for in June 2011 for the playing of live and recorded music outdoors between midday and 8pm.

In documents submitted to the council, a representation from the responsible authority for the licensing authority raised concerns over the number of people who may attend the event, which may exceed 5,000.

The popular event has grown in size over the past three years, and last September it attracted about 7,000 people.

This year, Croxfest is due to be held on September 6.

Mr Beattie outline two objections in the documents submitted to the council, which read: "The sound stage is positioned such that the music noise is funnelled directly from the speakers on the stage and projected northwards to where we live.

"The sound levels are set so high that the music and words can be heard up to one kilometre away, whilst the audience listening to it are approximately 50 to 70 metres away from the stage."
Garry Turner, one of the event organisers, said: "It’s not a Glastonbury it’s a family community event."

He added: "In terms of the event it’s quite important to recognise it’s a community event. It’s attended by a lot of residents within Croxley. Some come from Watford but generally it’s a Croxley event that we put on in the community for the community."

Members of the licensing sub-committee have five working days to review the noise concerns regarding the festival.

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12:18pm Fri 29 Aug 14

CroxleyShellGarage says...

What a miserable goat Mr Beattie is. Its one day a year!!!
What a miserable goat Mr Beattie is. Its one day a year!!! CroxleyShellGarage
  • Score: 27

12:22pm Fri 29 Aug 14

matte111 says...

How rediculous. It is a community event for one day a year. Perhaps the residents complaining should actually go along to the festival and let their hair down instead of complaining about it. Or failing that go out for the day or go and visit some friends. Perhaps for 8 to 10 hours a year people like you might have some consideration for the rest of the community and stop complaining about something which shouldn't even be an issue.
How rediculous. It is a community event for one day a year. Perhaps the residents complaining should actually go along to the festival and let their hair down instead of complaining about it. Or failing that go out for the day or go and visit some friends. Perhaps for 8 to 10 hours a year people like you might have some consideration for the rest of the community and stop complaining about something which shouldn't even be an issue. matte111
  • Score: 32

12:53pm Fri 29 Aug 14

CroxleyS says...

Croxfest is a fantastic event that is a real feather in the cap for the community just like revels and the fireworks, Carters fair and classic car shows, We are so lucky to have such a wide diverse range of activities that are put on by volunteer organisers in Croxley.
For the sake of 1 day a year why cant people be reasonable and let folk enjoy themselves.
I hope Croxfest is a great success again this year. Well done the organisers!
Croxfest is a fantastic event that is a real feather in the cap for the community just like revels and the fireworks, Carters fair and classic car shows, We are so lucky to have such a wide diverse range of activities that are put on by volunteer organisers in Croxley. For the sake of 1 day a year why cant people be reasonable and let folk enjoy themselves. I hope Croxfest is a great success again this year. Well done the organisers! CroxleyS
  • Score: 29

1:10pm Fri 29 Aug 14

bkno83 says...

The timing of Croxfest is very sensible as it's in the middle of the day - there is no noise late evening or night-time. It's just a bit of music and I hope common sense prevails. We don't want a repeat of silencing the All Saints church bells, which went against the majority view.
The timing of Croxfest is very sensible as it's in the middle of the day - there is no noise late evening or night-time. It's just a bit of music and I hope common sense prevails. We don't want a repeat of silencing the All Saints church bells, which went against the majority view. bkno83
  • Score: 24

1:28pm Fri 29 Aug 14

ReverendRock says...

Unbelievable! How mean-spirited and selfish of Mr Beattie to condemn something that thousands of local people enjoy. 'You are condemning us for the rest of our lives to have this noise pollution every year' - get a grip man and go out for the day if it bothers you that much! Croxfest is a very well organised, safe, fun and free day out for all the family and is all over by 8pm in any case. Long may it continue!
Unbelievable! How mean-spirited and selfish of Mr Beattie to condemn something that thousands of local people enjoy. 'You are condemning us for the rest of our lives to have this noise pollution every year' - get a grip man and go out for the day if it bothers you that much! Croxfest is a very well organised, safe, fun and free day out for all the family and is all over by 8pm in any case. Long may it continue! ReverendRock
  • Score: 19

1:49pm Fri 29 Aug 14

bobthemod says...

This is a once a year event in the daytime finishing at 8.pm how ridiculous to make a complaint! Should the concerns of the few override the pleasure for thousands that attend? No is the answer!
This is a once a year event in the daytime finishing at 8.pm how ridiculous to make a complaint! Should the concerns of the few override the pleasure for thousands that attend? No is the answer! bobthemod
  • Score: 17

2:02pm Fri 29 Aug 14

housecow says...

This is a once a year event for the community and is filled with families with children. Mr Beattie come along with your family and have fun along with the thousands of others. It is all over and done with by 8pm. Long may Croxfest continue!
This is a once a year event for the community and is filled with families with children. Mr Beattie come along with your family and have fun along with the thousands of others. It is all over and done with by 8pm. Long may Croxfest continue! housecow
  • Score: 15

3:43pm Fri 29 Aug 14

ChunkeyMonkey says...

The Licence Review papers published on 3Rivers web site indicates Mr Beattie as the instigator of the review and the only objector compared to the thousands who have apparently enjoyed the event over three years.

Nothing personal, but I would dry clean the dress suit Mr Beattie, you will need it to collect the Killjoy of the Year 2014 Award, or will you be staying at home on the day of that event?
The Licence Review papers published on 3Rivers web site indicates Mr Beattie as the instigator of the review and the only objector compared to the thousands who have apparently enjoyed the event over three years. Nothing personal, but I would dry clean the dress suit Mr Beattie, you will need it to collect the Killjoy of the Year 2014 Award, or will you be staying at home on the day of that event? ChunkeyMonkey
  • Score: 10

4:38pm Fri 29 Aug 14

LEdwarfs says...

"Condemned"?? Let's get some perspective shall we, Mr Beattie?
"Condemned"?? Let's get some perspective shall we, Mr Beattie? LEdwarfs
  • Score: 14

5:03pm Fri 29 Aug 14

cgpc Rob says...

What was the outcome, is the music/noise level being turned down, can't find reference in article.
What was the outcome, is the music/noise level being turned down, can't find reference in article. cgpc Rob
  • Score: 0

5:04pm Fri 29 Aug 14

cgpc Rob says...

Sorry five days before decision made,
Sorry five days before decision made, cgpc Rob
  • Score: 1

5:10pm Fri 29 Aug 14

chocco says...

OMG Mr Beatit , hmm is this the same 1 resident of croxley that complained about the church bells noise, what next ? no midnight fireworks on New Year's Eve , no classic car shows, no revels no steam fair, jog on mateeey time you lived somewhere else, preferably in the middle of nowhere. I doubt he can go visit friends that day as I doubt the miserable bugger has any.
OMG Mr Beatit , hmm is this the same 1 resident of croxley that complained about the church bells noise, what next ? no midnight fireworks on New Year's Eve , no classic car shows, no revels no steam fair, jog on mateeey time you lived somewhere else, preferably in the middle of nowhere. I doubt he can go visit friends that day as I doubt the miserable bugger has any. chocco
  • Score: 11

5:37pm Fri 29 Aug 14

genuineherts says...

Oh my goodness, what a silly fool he is!!!!! I live a few metres from the green & am more than happy for this event to go on. I love going to croxfest & think mean spirited people lie MR BEATTIE should disappear for the day. Its all over by 8pm. Glad I'm not a neighbour of his, prob moans about dogs barking, birds singing, bees humming...........
Get a life MR BEATTIE & maybe invest in some earplugs!!!!!!!!!
Oh my goodness, what a silly fool he is!!!!! I live a few metres from the green & am more than happy for this event to go on. I love going to croxfest & think mean spirited people lie MR BEATTIE should disappear for the day. Its all over by 8pm. Glad I'm not a neighbour of his, prob moans about dogs barking, birds singing, bees humming........... Get a life MR BEATTIE & maybe invest in some earplugs!!!!!!!!! genuineherts
  • Score: 15

7:12pm Fri 29 Aug 14

serendipitous_d says...

his home is 'blighted?!' really? it's once a year!! if you really can't stand it you can always bugger off out for the day!! long live Croxfest:! xx
his home is 'blighted?!' really? it's once a year!! if you really can't stand it you can always bugger off out for the day!! long live Croxfest:! xx serendipitous_d
  • Score: 12

7:12pm Fri 29 Aug 14

serendipitous_d says...

his home is 'blighted?!' really? it's once a year!! if you really can't stand it you can always bugger off out for the day!! long live Croxfest:! ;-)
his home is 'blighted?!' really? it's once a year!! if you really can't stand it you can always bugger off out for the day!! long live Croxfest:! ;-) serendipitous_d
  • Score: 8

7:44pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Hemelite says...

Mr Beattie, as your comments imply, you clearly demonstrate no understanding of community spirit, nor the attitude that is part of a small community.
Croxfest is, and will always be, a community event with a large amount of revenue generated for Croxley itself, not to mention the money it raises for good causes every year.
By doing something as reducing the volume would detract from the event and therefore reduce the amount of revenue for Croxley, not to mention the reduction of charity donations made by the audience. I do hope you are not suggesting that charities should receive less donations just so you can have a one quite afternoon out of the other 51 that are in a year?
I would say that that is in no way being part of the community. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Mr Beattie, as your comments imply, you clearly demonstrate no understanding of community spirit, nor the attitude that is part of a small community. Croxfest is, and will always be, a community event with a large amount of revenue generated for Croxley itself, not to mention the money it raises for good causes every year. By doing something as reducing the volume would detract from the event and therefore reduce the amount of revenue for Croxley, not to mention the reduction of charity donations made by the audience. I do hope you are not suggesting that charities should receive less donations just so you can have a one quite afternoon out of the other 51 that are in a year? I would say that that is in no way being part of the community. You should be ashamed of yourself. Hemelite
  • Score: 11

8:20pm Fri 29 Aug 14

watfordrick says...

7,000 people. Is Croxfest getting too big? I reckon you should tone it down a bit or it will go the way of the Rainbow Festival and be stopped!
7,000 people. Is Croxfest getting too big? I reckon you should tone it down a bit or it will go the way of the Rainbow Festival and be stopped! watfordrick
  • Score: -5

11:09pm Fri 29 Aug 14

oggy says...

For one day a year he has to listen to some people enjoying themselves miserable git people like this complain about church bells being to noisy
For one day a year he has to listen to some people enjoying themselves miserable git people like this complain about church bells being to noisy oggy
  • Score: 8

12:51am Sat 30 Aug 14

LSC says...

Nine times out of ten 'Festivals' are a pain in the backside for somebody somewhere, but this really does seem the least intrusive gathering of the local community you could find.
The one at Letchmore Heath as good as closed the M1 for a day. Glastonbury (despite most of them being hippy friends of the planet, man) created enough leftover rubbish to land-fill the entire Isle of Wight, and that one that happened in Luton usually resulted in a full body-bag or two by the end of it.
Buy some headphones or go out for the day.
Nine times out of ten 'Festivals' are a pain in the backside for somebody somewhere, but this really does seem the least intrusive gathering of the local community you could find. The one at Letchmore Heath as good as closed the M1 for a day. Glastonbury (despite most of them being hippy friends of the planet, man) created enough leftover rubbish to land-fill the entire Isle of Wight, and that one that happened in Luton usually resulted in a full body-bag or two by the end of it. Buy some headphones or go out for the day. LSC
  • Score: 8

11:39am Sat 30 Aug 14

andyandyandy says...

Isnt Mr Beattie a complete and utter tool.
Isnt Mr Beattie a complete and utter tool. andyandyandy
  • Score: 10

11:53am Sat 30 Aug 14

TheWiseMan says...

Mr Beattie is not asking for the event to be banned, he is asking for the organisers to show some community spirit of their own and keep the noise to a reasonable level. There is no need for the noise to be audible 1 km away, only the people attending the Green wish to hear it.
The population of Croxley Green is 12000, an attendance 0f 5000 plus including non residents does not make it universally popular, its only reasonable for the council to monitor and enforce sensible noise levels.
Mr Beattie is not asking for the event to be banned, he is asking for the organisers to show some community spirit of their own and keep the noise to a reasonable level. There is no need for the noise to be audible 1 km away, only the people attending the Green wish to hear it. The population of Croxley Green is 12000, an attendance 0f 5000 plus including non residents does not make it universally popular, its only reasonable for the council to monitor and enforce sensible noise levels. TheWiseMan
  • Score: -15

4:31pm Sat 30 Aug 14

cgpc Rob says...

Read the submission, TRDC have concerns that the licence for 5000 people attending including volunteers and bands on site might exceed the limit as 7000 has been cited.
Read the submission, TRDC have concerns that the licence for 5000 people attending including volunteers and bands on site might exceed the limit as 7000 has been cited. cgpc Rob
  • Score: -2

3:47pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Croxley Wicketman says...

Well it's Sunday afternoon. 3.30 pm and I can hear the music from The Sportsman. That's about a km from where I live but I accept that's part of living in Croxley and it's not every Sunday. I can hear it but it's not loud. The wind is blowing from the south of of course there is going to be 'noise bleed' from there just as there is 'noise bleed' from Croxfest.
What is more interesting is that Three Rivers encourage people to attend Committee Meetings and give representations. I went to the hearing but was told that because the committee meeting was held under the auspices of the licensing act, I could not give a representation unless I had given prior notice. Total lack of the democratic right to be heard.
That information is not made available on the TRDC website, their main public information portal. The licensing officer David Shorto said I should be aware of the requirements under the Licencing Act. So now members of the public are expected to be aware of all the provisions of all the acts of Parliament that Three Rivers work under in order to make a representation?
CGPC BOB. The 7000 you quote is misleading. It's only cited by another comment on this article.
The licence for Croxfest is for 5000 at any one time and not a total number throughout the day. No evidence has ever been cited by TRDC or any other person that this figure has been exceeded. No evidence was provided by either Mr Beattie, his wife or his other witness that the noise levels were above statutory levels and in fact the witnesses for Croxfest did provide evidence from readings taken that the noise levels were significantly under any public / noise nuisance levels.
Mr Beattie showed no knowledge or evidence of what noise levels were at Redheath either before, during or after the event. He just didn't like it.
The organisers of Croxfest have gone out of their way to speak and meet with Mr Beattie etc but he just doesn't want to listen. I urge the Licencing Conmittee to reject his representation and allow Croxfest to continue in its current form.
Well it's Sunday afternoon. 3.30 pm and I can hear the music from The Sportsman. That's about a km from where I live but I accept that's part of living in Croxley and it's not every Sunday. I can hear it but it's not loud. The wind is blowing from the south of of course there is going to be 'noise bleed' from there just as there is 'noise bleed' from Croxfest. What is more interesting is that Three Rivers encourage people to attend Committee Meetings and give representations. I went to the hearing but was told that because the committee meeting was held under the auspices of the licensing act, I could not give a representation unless I had given prior notice. Total lack of the democratic right to be heard. That information is not made available on the TRDC website, their main public information portal. The licensing officer David Shorto said I should be aware of the requirements under the Licencing Act. So now members of the public are expected to be aware of all the provisions of all the acts of Parliament that Three Rivers work under in order to make a representation? CGPC BOB. The 7000 you quote is misleading. It's only cited by another comment on this article. The licence for Croxfest is for 5000 at any one time and not a total number throughout the day. No evidence has ever been cited by TRDC or any other person that this figure has been exceeded. No evidence was provided by either Mr Beattie, his wife or his other witness that the noise levels were above statutory levels and in fact the witnesses for Croxfest did provide evidence from readings taken that the noise levels were significantly under any public / noise nuisance levels. Mr Beattie showed no knowledge or evidence of what noise levels were at Redheath either before, during or after the event. He just didn't like it. The organisers of Croxfest have gone out of their way to speak and meet with Mr Beattie etc but he just doesn't want to listen. I urge the Licencing Conmittee to reject his representation and allow Croxfest to continue in its current form. Croxley Wicketman
  • Score: 9

4:47pm Sun 31 Aug 14

cgpc Rob says...

croxket sicklyman

From TRDC website

Concern raised about over 5000 as no effective means of head counting


4. Summary of Objections / Representations

Responsible Authority:

1. When considering the location of the premises, in close proximity to three public houses (Coach and Horses, The Artichoke and The Sportsman), there are concerns over the control/security of people entering the premises from local public houses carrying alcohol or having consumed alcohol.
2. There is no limit on the amount of alcohol that can be brought to the event by the public.
3. There are concerns over the number of people who may attend the event which could exceed 5,000, thereby making the event unlawful as it is only licensed for 5,000.
4. The event itself has grown significantly over the years and is actively being marketed via popular social media channels including Facebook and Twitter. The original idea of the event was to allow local bands an opportunity to play to local people. The directions on the website this year make it clear that people are expected to travel from further afield than the Croxley and Rickmansworth areas.
5. As it stands, it would appear that the existing licence contains no measures on how the numbers of visitors can be controlled and counted effectively.
6. The plan (layout of the event) attached on the website differs materially from the plan attached to the licence granted in 2011 on a continuing basis. For example, fixed catering stalls are shown in different positions to those on the plan on the licence and hospitality areas have changed position. The provision for extra catering is an indication of how extra numbers may be expected and the potential numbers attending could exceed 5,000. This is of concern as the layout as approved should not be changed.
7. The boundaries of the premises may not be appropriately enclosed which may hinder the ability to ascertain how many people are within the premises at any one time.
8. If the numbers were to exceed 5,000 people it would appear that the premises would be inadequate as the space available for public use would not be big enough to hold such numbers. Furthermore, when considering the location of the event there are concerns regarding traffic management given no enclosures are currently required under the existing licence.
9. When considering the amount of people attending the event may exceed 5,000, this may give rise to nuisance in the form of noise disturbance from people/crowds entering and leaving the event.
10. Having regard to the location of the event, there are a number of residential properties in close proximity to the premises which may be affected if numbers were to go above 5,000.

Other Persons:


1. The sound stage is positioned such that the music noise is funnelled directly from the speakers on the stage and projected northwards to where we live.
2. The sound levels are set so high that the music and words can be heard up to 1 kilometre away, whilst the audience listening to it are approximately 50-70 metres away from the stage.
croxket sicklyman From TRDC website Concern raised about over 5000 as no effective means of head counting 4. Summary of Objections / Representations Responsible Authority: 1. When considering the location of the premises, in close proximity to three public houses (Coach and Horses, The Artichoke and The Sportsman), there are concerns over the control/security of people entering the premises from local public houses carrying alcohol or having consumed alcohol. 2. There is no limit on the amount of alcohol that can be brought to the event by the public. 3. There are concerns over the number of people who may attend the event which could exceed 5,000, thereby making the event unlawful as it is only licensed for 5,000. 4. The event itself has grown significantly over the years and is actively being marketed via popular social media channels including Facebook and Twitter. The original idea of the event was to allow local bands an opportunity to play to local people. The directions on the website this year make it clear that people are expected to travel from further afield than the Croxley and Rickmansworth areas. 5. As it stands, it would appear that the existing licence contains no measures on how the numbers of visitors can be controlled and counted effectively. 6. The plan (layout of the event) attached on the website differs materially from the plan attached to the licence granted in 2011 on a continuing basis. For example, fixed catering stalls are shown in different positions to those on the plan on the licence and hospitality areas have changed position. The provision for extra catering is an indication of how extra numbers may be expected and the potential numbers attending could exceed 5,000. This is of concern as the layout as approved should not be changed. 7. The boundaries of the premises may not be appropriately enclosed which may hinder the ability to ascertain how many people are within the premises at any one time. 8. If the numbers were to exceed 5,000 people it would appear that the premises would be inadequate as the space available for public use would not be big enough to hold such numbers. Furthermore, when considering the location of the event there are concerns regarding traffic management given no enclosures are currently required under the existing licence. 9. When considering the amount of people attending the event may exceed 5,000, this may give rise to nuisance in the form of noise disturbance from people/crowds entering and leaving the event. 10. Having regard to the location of the event, there are a number of residential properties in close proximity to the premises which may be affected if numbers were to go above 5,000. Other Persons: 1. The sound stage is positioned such that the music noise is funnelled directly from the speakers on the stage and projected northwards to where we live. 2. The sound levels are set so high that the music and words can be heard up to 1 kilometre away, whilst the audience listening to it are approximately 50-70 metres away from the stage. cgpc Rob
  • Score: 0

4:49pm Sun 31 Aug 14

cgpc Rob says...

So all may read



1. Summary of Application sought:

This review has been called by Mr Beattie a resident of a small hamlet of houses approximately 1 kilometre north of Croxley Green, under the licensing principle of “The prevention of public nuisance”. For the past 3 years his enjoyment of his property has been blighted by the constant music noise and tannoy announcements emanating from the annual Croxfest festival.

2. Summary of Existing rights under the current Premises Licence:

The premises as such is situated at the top end of the Green in Croxley Green, on a large plot of The Green where Sarratt Road meets The Green, please see the plan attached. A premises licence was first applied for in June 2011 for the playing of live and recorded music outdoors and the provision of facilities for playing live and recorded music outdoors, between the times of 12:00 – 20:00 hrs.

The reasoning as explained to officers at the time of application by the then representatives of the Croxfest Committee was to apparently give a window to local bands and schools to enable individuals and groups to showcase their musical talent. This would take place once a year on a Saturday falling between the 1st August and 30th September every year from the original date of application. The original application implies that no more than 5000 people at any one time will be on the premises. This number includes all staff, performers and the audience.

There being no representations at the time the licence was duly granted by officers in the terms sought.

3. List of Objectors / Representations:

Responsible Authorities:
One (1) representation from the Responsible Authority for the Licensing Authority

Other Persons:
One (1) from the applicant
So all may read 1. Summary of Application sought: This review has been called by Mr Beattie a resident of a small hamlet of houses approximately 1 kilometre north of Croxley Green, under the licensing principle of “The prevention of public nuisance”. For the past 3 years his enjoyment of his property has been blighted by the constant music noise and tannoy announcements emanating from the annual Croxfest festival. 2. Summary of Existing rights under the current Premises Licence: The premises as such is situated at the top end of the Green in Croxley Green, on a large plot of The Green where Sarratt Road meets The Green, please see the plan attached. A premises licence was first applied for in June 2011 for the playing of live and recorded music outdoors and the provision of facilities for playing live and recorded music outdoors, between the times of 12:00 – 20:00 hrs. The reasoning as explained to officers at the time of application by the then representatives of the Croxfest Committee was to apparently give a window to local bands and schools to enable individuals and groups to showcase their musical talent. This would take place once a year on a Saturday falling between the 1st August and 30th September every year from the original date of application. The original application implies that no more than 5000 people at any one time will be on the premises. This number includes all staff, performers and the audience. There being no representations at the time the licence was duly granted by officers in the terms sought. 3. List of Objectors / Representations: Responsible Authorities: One (1) representation from the Responsible Authority for the Licensing Authority Other Persons: One (1) from the applicant cgpc Rob
  • Score: 0

7:05pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Croxley Wicketman says...

Bob,
All you've done is regurgitate what's on the TRDC website.
The officer representing the Responsible Authority, after having had discussions with the Croxfest Committee withdrew 95% of the comments he had made as he was totally satisfied with the organisation of the event.
If you, like me had attended the hearing rather than talking out of your a**e you would understand what the arguments were.
I hope the Licencing .Committee take a balanced, fair and proportionate view on the complaints taking into account what was said and promised by the Croxfest Committee and what has been said by 99% of the people who have commented on this article.
Bob, All you've done is regurgitate what's on the TRDC website. The officer representing the Responsible Authority, after having had discussions with the Croxfest Committee withdrew 95% of the comments he had made as he was totally satisfied with the organisation of the event. If you, like me had attended the hearing rather than talking out of your a**e you would understand what the arguments were. I hope the Licencing .Committee take a balanced, fair and proportionate view on the complaints taking into account what was said and promised by the Croxfest Committee and what has been said by 99% of the people who have commented on this article. Croxley Wicketman
  • Score: 3

7:16pm Sun 31 Aug 14

cgpc Rob says...

Saxoff

I put the submission to TRDC on here, so that posters would be able to read them, As for talking out of your axxe, you can't hear the sportsman from 100 yards away, nose bleed, what from voices in your head!

Will have to await the decision and read the minutes, not just what you have stated, until the decision!

What was promised?
Saxoff I put the submission to TRDC on here, so that posters would be able to read them, As for talking out of your axxe, you can't hear the sportsman from 100 yards away, nose bleed, what from voices in your head! Will have to await the decision and read the minutes, not just what you have stated, until the decision! What was promised? cgpc Rob
  • Score: -4

8:11am Mon 1 Sep 14

Mrs TC says...

A little advice......
DON'T buy a house on/near a village green if you feel you can't put up with a bit of noise now and again. Annual events WILL take place, bringing families and the community together.
DON'T buy a house near a church if you think the bells may disturb you - they WILL ring early, late and on special occasions!
DON'T buy a house close to a school - you WILL experience parking issues which will never be resolved!
DON'T buy a house with a train line at the end of the garden (unless you are a train spotter) - trains WILL run on a regular basis!
AND DON'T COMPLAIN if you've chosen to live where you are! Or just move.....
SIMPLE!
A little advice...... DON'T buy a house on/near a village green if you feel you can't put up with a bit of noise now and again. Annual events WILL take place, bringing families and the community together. DON'T buy a house near a church if you think the bells may disturb you - they WILL ring early, late and on special occasions! DON'T buy a house close to a school - you WILL experience parking issues which will never be resolved! DON'T buy a house with a train line at the end of the garden (unless you are a train spotter) - trains WILL run on a regular basis! AND DON'T COMPLAIN if you've chosen to live where you are! Or just move..... SIMPLE! Mrs TC
  • Score: 5

10:11pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Manic_ says...

"His enjoyment of his home has been "blighted" by the music and tannoy announcements coming from the event. "
Blighted as in living by the proposed HS2 route or an area where Fracking is being contemplated or the site of a proposed waste incinerator or freight terminus. Shall I mention the proposed new runway at Heathrow?
How does this compare to for example Vicarage Road? Over 20 times a year- music - PA system - cheering crowds - disruption on local roads.
Not seen any complaints in the WO
"His enjoyment of his home has been "blighted" by the music and tannoy announcements coming from the event. " Blighted as in living by the proposed HS2 route or an area where Fracking is being contemplated or the site of a proposed waste incinerator or freight terminus. Shall I mention the proposed new runway at Heathrow? How does this compare to for example Vicarage Road? Over 20 times a year- music - PA system - cheering crowds - disruption on local roads. Not seen any complaints in the WO Manic_
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