Read Watford's full statement after they confirmed Beppe Sannino has resigned as head coach

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Watford have confirmed Beppe Sannino has resigned as head coach and released a statement with comments from the Italian, which can be read here.

Watford's statement reads: Beppe Sannino's tenure as Head Coach is over after he today tendered his resignation to the Watford FC Board.

The Italian, who leaves having given eight-and-a-half months' service at Vicarage Road, says he's immensely proud of what he's achieved during his time with the Hornets.

"I took over a very talented squad when I arrived - but they were boys in many ways", the 57-year-old said.

"I'm proud of what we have achieved and I have no doubt that the squad now, who look very much like men who know exactly what they must do, are very capable of getting promotion from this tough Championship league."

He added: "I know I have given everything to Watford; I have given my heart and soul to the job and I have been happy to do this because of the wonderful support I have received from everyone - and most of all the fans, who are truly amazing.

"However I feel I have gone as far as I can so, for the benefit of me and the club, I feel the time is right for me to move on.

"I am convinced whoever will be in charge in the future will have everything ready for him to deliver the success that everyone at the club would wish for"

Watford FC wishes to thank Beppe Sannino for all that he has achieved while with the club, wishes him well for his future in football and extends an open invitation to Beppe and his family as guests of the Hornets at any future matches.

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8:19pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Watford Man says...

Well I for one am sorry to see him go.
Well I for one am sorry to see him go. Watford Man
  • Score: 170

8:24pm Sun 31 Aug 14

SuperHorns says...

Well thats us stuffed now...
Well thats us stuffed now... SuperHorns
  • Score: -33

8:24pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Banjo says...

Watford Man wrote:
Well I for one am sorry to see him go.
agreed, but I'd have Zola back in a heartbeat.
BTW, I don't care what any of you divs on here think of that.
[quote][p][bold]Watford Man[/bold] wrote: Well I for one am sorry to see him go.[/p][/quote]agreed, but I'd have Zola back in a heartbeat. BTW, I don't care what any of you divs on here think of that. Banjo
  • Score: 23

8:26pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Blissett'sRevenge says...

To paraphrase Michael Corleone, "It's just business." This is not a question of loyalty, it's not a question of justice, it's not about whether Sannino "deserves" to be sacked given the results, it's not about whether the players are spoiled whiners who deserve to be put back in their place the-way-Sir-Alex-Fer
guson-would-have-don
e-with-his-hair-drye
r. The only question that matters is "Does this man maximize our chances of success?" The Pozzos have clearly concluded that the answer to that question is no. Therefore, he goes. Cold-blooded, yes but also the right calculation, at least in my judgment. Management owes a duty, to the players and the fans, to put the team in the best position to win. If Sannino, or anyone else, can be replaced by someone who improves our odds, then a move should be made.

As fans, we don't really know what was happening in the squad. We don't know why the players gave up so appallingly last Spring or why the Sannino was so unpopular. The Pozzos and Scott Duxbury have information that we do not and, in their judgment, they concluded the team was more likely to succeed with someone other than Sannino. Given their track record, I think you have to give a lot of weight to their judgment. Perhaps the story will trickle out and we will ultimately know enough to form our own considered opinion but right now, anyone in the public who claims to know exactly what happened is probably just projecting their own point of view onto an ink-blot.

Finally, I hope that all the critics who have been savaging Frank Smith for the last few weeks as a trouble-maker who is creating a phony story will have the decency to apologize. Plainly, Frank has good sources at the club and he has been on top of this story for some time. We and the club are fortunate to have someone doing real reporting on the Hornets.
To paraphrase Michael Corleone, "It's just business." This is not a question of loyalty, it's not a question of justice, it's not about whether Sannino "deserves" to be sacked given the results, it's not about whether the players are spoiled whiners who deserve to be put back in their place the-way-Sir-Alex-Fer guson-would-have-don e-with-his-hair-drye r. The only question that matters is "Does this man maximize our chances of success?" The Pozzos have clearly concluded that the answer to that question is no. Therefore, he goes. Cold-blooded, yes but also the right calculation, at least in my judgment. Management owes a duty, to the players and the fans, to put the team in the best position to win. If Sannino, or anyone else, can be replaced by someone who improves our odds, then a move should be made. As fans, we don't really know what was happening in the squad. We don't know why the players gave up so appallingly last Spring or why the Sannino was so unpopular. The Pozzos and Scott Duxbury have information that we do not and, in their judgment, they concluded the team was more likely to succeed with someone other than Sannino. Given their track record, I think you have to give a lot of weight to their judgment. Perhaps the story will trickle out and we will ultimately know enough to form our own considered opinion but right now, anyone in the public who claims to know exactly what happened is probably just projecting their own point of view onto an ink-blot. Finally, I hope that all the critics who have been savaging Frank Smith for the last few weeks as a trouble-maker who is creating a phony story will have the decency to apologize. Plainly, Frank has good sources at the club and he has been on top of this story for some time. We and the club are fortunate to have someone doing real reporting on the Hornets. Blissett'sRevenge
  • Score: 63

8:27pm Sun 31 Aug 14

LoveKeithDublin says...

I'm sad the way this has panned out - Sannino seemed a decent man and we were starting to look a united force on the pitch. This sounds to me like a victory for primadonna squad players throwing their toys out of the pram. I hope we go for someone with Championship experience - he might have been a legendary player but what does Galli know about the Championship?
I'm sad the way this has panned out - Sannino seemed a decent man and we were starting to look a united force on the pitch. This sounds to me like a victory for primadonna squad players throwing their toys out of the pram. I hope we go for someone with Championship experience - he might have been a legendary player but what does Galli know about the Championship? LoveKeithDublin
  • Score: 74

8:27pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Gloryhornets57 says...

Loved his passion and desire. I hope it's not the players that have forced him out. But lots of good managers looking for work and it would be good to have someone who knows how the championship works. Two weeks to get someone in.
Loved his passion and desire. I hope it's not the players that have forced him out. But lots of good managers looking for work and it would be good to have someone who knows how the championship works. Two weeks to get someone in. Gloryhornets57
  • Score: 34

8:28pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Wool hornet says...

Sannino going to Leeds. Current Youth Team Manager from AC Milan just happened to fly into London this morning, that's Falippo Galli !!
Sannino going to Leeds. Current Youth Team Manager from AC Milan just happened to fly into London this morning, that's Falippo Galli !! Wool hornet
  • Score: 6

8:28pm Sun 31 Aug 14

COGGDAVE1 says...

Frank Smith will choose the manager ....after all he got this one sacked ..how about Dave Hockaday ..surely Frank he will get your support ..considering ...well you know ..and I know Frank does ..
Frank Smith will choose the manager ....after all he got this one sacked ..how about Dave Hockaday ..surely Frank he will get your support ..considering ...well you know ..and I know Frank does .. COGGDAVE1
  • Score: -40

8:30pm Sun 31 Aug 14

The BestTrip2011 says...

There was obviously something in the offing hence Frank Smith's constant return to the subject of his tenureship.
Being realistic, Sannino was never a long- term plan however the timing now is interesting given our strong start.
I suspect the Pozzos already have a known replacement and this will be known quickly.
Thanks Beppe and good luck.
There was obviously something in the offing hence Frank Smith's constant return to the subject of his tenureship. Being realistic, Sannino was never a long- term plan however the timing now is interesting given our strong start. I suspect the Pozzos already have a known replacement and this will be known quickly. Thanks Beppe and good luck. The BestTrip2011
  • Score: 46

8:33pm Sun 31 Aug 14

DuncanWelbourne'sshinpad says...

According to the Sun today it's a done deal with Oscar Garcia ( ex Brighton ) quitting his role in Tel Aviv suddenly . Have they been phone hacking again ?
Let's not forget that Beppe saved a sinking ship on our form then and nearly got us back in the play offs .

I for one thank him and wish him well
According to the Sun today it's a done deal with Oscar Garcia ( ex Brighton ) quitting his role in Tel Aviv suddenly . Have they been phone hacking again ? Let's not forget that Beppe saved a sinking ship on our form then and nearly got us back in the play offs . I for one thank him and wish him well DuncanWelbourne'sshinpad
  • Score: 88

8:34pm Sun 31 Aug 14

lockerbiehornet says...

Maybe those (lutondown and his merry group of chimps) will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring now, I did say that oddschecker had reduced his odds massively 2 days before the WO even ran the story, it was only a matter of time.
Maybe those (lutondown and his merry group of chimps) will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring now, I did say that oddschecker had reduced his odds massively 2 days before the WO even ran the story, it was only a matter of time. lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 12

8:35pm Sun 31 Aug 14

rayman01 says...

Whatever you think of Beppe as a manager the guy has dignity. When we look back at his tenure I think we might all better appreciate his achievements. Hope we get in the right person soon. But in my eyes yesterday was Beppe's finest hour. Luv the Horns!
Whatever you think of Beppe as a manager the guy has dignity. When we look back at his tenure I think we might all better appreciate his achievements. Hope we get in the right person soon. But in my eyes yesterday was Beppe's finest hour. Luv the Horns! rayman01
  • Score: 106

8:38pm Sun 31 Aug 14

lockerbiehornet says...

DuncanWelbourne'sshi
npad
wrote:
According to the Sun today it's a done deal with Oscar Garcia ( ex Brighton ) quitting his role in Tel Aviv suddenly . Have they been phone hacking again ?
Let's not forget that Beppe saved a sinking ship on our form then and nearly got us back in the play offs .

I for one thank him and wish him well
OOOOOOOOOOO The Beppe out campaigners will be delighted...........
.. Not!
[quote][p][bold]DuncanWelbourne'sshi npad[/bold] wrote: According to the Sun today it's a done deal with Oscar Garcia ( ex Brighton ) quitting his role in Tel Aviv suddenly . Have they been phone hacking again ? Let's not forget that Beppe saved a sinking ship on our form then and nearly got us back in the play offs . I for one thank him and wish him well[/p][/quote]OOOOOOOOOOO The Beppe out campaigners will be delighted........... .. Not! lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 6

8:38pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Hampshire hornet says...

lockerbiehornet wrote:
Maybe those (lutondown and his merry group of chimps) will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring now, I did say that oddschecker had reduced his odds massively 2 days before the WO even ran the story, it was only a matter of time.
Sorry don't understand the chimps reference.? They called this right ages ago, the chimps are surely the tools who refused to believe? Or maybe you meant chumps ?
[quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: Maybe those (lutondown and his merry group of chimps) will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring now, I did say that oddschecker had reduced his odds massively 2 days before the WO even ran the story, it was only a matter of time.[/p][/quote]Sorry don't understand the chimps reference.? They called this right ages ago, the chimps are surely the tools who refused to believe? Or maybe you meant chumps ? Hampshire hornet
  • Score: -14

8:38pm Sun 31 Aug 14

buckler says...

COGGDAVE1 wrote:
Frank Smith will choose the manager ....after all he got this one sacked ..how about Dave Hockaday ..surely Frank he will get your support ..considering ...well you know ..and I know Frank does ..
Maybe the bald headed clown just weren't up to the job idiot!
[quote][p][bold]COGGDAVE1[/bold] wrote: Frank Smith will choose the manager ....after all he got this one sacked ..how about Dave Hockaday ..surely Frank he will get your support ..considering ...well you know ..and I know Frank does ..[/p][/quote]Maybe the bald headed clown just weren't up to the job idiot! buckler
  • Score: -63

8:39pm Sun 31 Aug 14

The BestTrip2011 says...

Fallipo Galli being touted.
Fallipo Galli being touted. The BestTrip2011
  • Score: -17

8:40pm Sun 31 Aug 14

buckler says...

I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.
I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap. buckler
  • Score: -65

8:41pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Brookie69 says...

Great post...taking the emotion out of the situation and looking at things from an owners perspective.
Great post...taking the emotion out of the situation and looking at things from an owners perspective. Brookie69
  • Score: 7

8:42pm Sun 31 Aug 14

lockerbiehornet says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
lockerbiehornet wrote:
Maybe those (lutondown and his merry group of chimps) will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring now, I did say that oddschecker had reduced his odds massively 2 days before the WO even ran the story, it was only a matter of time.
Sorry don't understand the chimps reference.? They called this right ages ago, the chimps are surely the tools who refused to believe? Or maybe you meant chumps ?
No I mean those that have blamed this on Frank's/The Wo, do you/they really think the WO has any influence on decisions at WFC?
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: Maybe those (lutondown and his merry group of chimps) will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring now, I did say that oddschecker had reduced his odds massively 2 days before the WO even ran the story, it was only a matter of time.[/p][/quote]Sorry don't understand the chimps reference.? They called this right ages ago, the chimps are surely the tools who refused to believe? Or maybe you meant chumps ?[/p][/quote]No I mean those that have blamed this on Frank's/The Wo, do you/they really think the WO has any influence on decisions at WFC? lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 17

8:45pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Hampshire hornet says...

You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring.
They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx
You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring. They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx Hampshire hornet
  • Score: -16

8:45pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Hornankey says...

Never dull being a WFC supporter! Timing is odd after yesterday's gutsy performance. Whomsoever replaces Beppe will have even greater expectation to manage, as well as a football team of very talented individuals! Good luck to Beppe - he made a difference when it was needed and has given a great foundation to this season.
Never dull being a WFC supporter! Timing is odd after yesterday's gutsy performance. Whomsoever replaces Beppe will have even greater expectation to manage, as well as a football team of very talented individuals! Good luck to Beppe - he made a difference when it was needed and has given a great foundation to this season. Hornankey
  • Score: 40

8:49pm Sun 31 Aug 14

SJM...laugh at luton says...

This is totally wrong...
This is totally wrong... SJM...laugh at luton
  • Score: 33

8:56pm Sun 31 Aug 14

londomollari says...

buckler wrote:
I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.
You've become a happy clapper?
If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is.
Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.[/p][/quote]You've become a happy clapper? If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is. Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again? londomollari
  • Score: 9

8:57pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Crane2bird says...

All the best Beppe - at least you went out on a high! Personally - would like to see Steve Clarke in the hot seat.
All the best Beppe - at least you went out on a high! Personally - would like to see Steve Clarke in the hot seat. Crane2bird
  • Score: 7

8:57pm Sun 31 Aug 14

buckler says...

londomollari wrote:
buckler wrote:
I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.
You've become a happy clapper?
If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is.
Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?
Spanish I'm told ..
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.[/p][/quote]You've become a happy clapper? If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is. Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?[/p][/quote]Spanish I'm told .. buckler
  • Score: -14

8:58pm Sun 31 Aug 14

lockerbiehornet says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring.
They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx
Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring. They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx[/p][/quote]Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't. lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 6

9:00pm Sun 31 Aug 14

G_Whiz says...

feeling quite gutted losing Beppe - He loved the Job and loved the fans!

Not too impressed by the rumored replacements so far!
feeling quite gutted losing Beppe - He loved the Job and loved the fans! Not too impressed by the rumored replacements so far! G_Whiz
  • Score: 35

9:02pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Hornet sting says...

Wouldn't surprise me if it was planned all along and that BP knew this with somebody like di Matteo coming in. Lets face it there have been so many rumours about it. cant agree with super horns that we are now stuffed !!! no chance !
We have a talented squad any decent manager should see us still fighting for promotion
COYH !!!
Wouldn't surprise me if it was planned all along and that BP knew this with somebody like di Matteo coming in. Lets face it there have been so many rumours about it. cant agree with super horns that we are now stuffed !!! no chance ! We have a talented squad any decent manager should see us still fighting for promotion COYH !!! Hornet sting
  • Score: 9

9:03pm Sun 31 Aug 14

nevergonnamakeit says...

Bhahahahahahahaha...
...........(catches breath).....Bhahahah
ahahahaha
Bhahahahahahahaha... ...........(catches breath).....Bhahahah ahahahaha nevergonnamakeit
  • Score: -20

9:03pm Sun 31 Aug 14

londomollari says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring.
They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx
I may not always agree with Lutondown and friends, and I didn't agree with their stance on Beppe. However, they never at any time accused Frank and the WO of stirring---it was people who were denying the 'Beppe going' rumours who were doing that. Frank and the WO were merely doing their job---reporting on what was happening at the club.
Why would Frank risk having the WO banned from the club by manufacturing stories or trying to manipulate the club?
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring. They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx[/p][/quote]I may not always agree with Lutondown and friends, and I didn't agree with their stance on Beppe. However, they never at any time accused Frank and the WO of stirring---it was people who were denying the 'Beppe going' rumours who were doing that. Frank and the WO were merely doing their job---reporting on what was happening at the club. Why would Frank risk having the WO banned from the club by manufacturing stories or trying to manipulate the club? londomollari
  • Score: 7

9:04pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Golferever says...

There's no smoke without fire - so they say.

So obviously something has been wrong for a month or so. I feel sorry for Beppe but it is a hard business, and all the Pozzo's want is the Premiership.

Would prefer that the next manager is not Italian, but who really cares as long as we get promoted.

Pozzo's rule!!

You 'Orrnnssss!!!
There's no smoke without fire - so they say. So obviously something has been wrong for a month or so. I feel sorry for Beppe but it is a hard business, and all the Pozzo's want is the Premiership. Would prefer that the next manager is not Italian, but who really cares as long as we get promoted. Pozzo's rule!! You 'Orrnnssss!!! Golferever
  • Score: 1

9:04pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Travelling Hornet says...

Back in 1977 a watford team had two players sent off v Huddersfield and won 2-0. The next day manager Mike Keen was sacked, enter GT .
Let's hope the next coach is as successful .
Funny how history repeats itself.
Back in 1977 a watford team had two players sent off v Huddersfield and won 2-0. The next day manager Mike Keen was sacked, enter GT . Let's hope the next coach is as successful . Funny how history repeats itself. Travelling Hornet
  • Score: 39

9:04pm Sun 31 Aug 14

femalehornet122 says...

No idea what the owners are doing. This is not the way to run a football club in England. If you look at wHo goes forward it is teams who have consistency in team and management. Bring back Zola with proper support and we will do it. Looks like a Leeds at the moment! Will not win anything like this consistency that is what we need
No idea what the owners are doing. This is not the way to run a football club in England. If you look at wHo goes forward it is teams who have consistency in team and management. Bring back Zola with proper support and we will do it. Looks like a Leeds at the moment! Will not win anything like this consistency that is what we need femalehornet122
  • Score: -11

9:05pm Sun 31 Aug 14

A Capello says...

lockerbiehornet wrote:
Hampshire hornet wrote:
You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring.
They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx
Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.
Definitely shouldn't flatter the WO who have persistently dodged any opportunity to praise performances. Managerial or otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring. They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx[/p][/quote]Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.[/p][/quote]Definitely shouldn't flatter the WO who have persistently dodged any opportunity to praise performances. Managerial or otherwise. A Capello
  • Score: -5

9:05pm Sun 31 Aug 14

dawlishhornet says...

Sorry to see him go. Admired his passion and the only thing I can see he did wrong was the training debacle at te end of last season. Still, he only ever looked a stop gap but I wish him all the very best. Very concerned if it is Galli as, aside from 1 season as a player (Viallis best signing in my opinion), he has no knowledge of the Championship. Zola back? i'd take that like a shot but I doubt it will happen. Di Matteo? no chance. Steve Clarke would be a good outside bet though but whoever it is needs to know the league. Dare we try and prize Kenny Jackett back with Nigel Gibbs as assistant?
Sorry to see him go. Admired his passion and the only thing I can see he did wrong was the training debacle at te end of last season. Still, he only ever looked a stop gap but I wish him all the very best. Very concerned if it is Galli as, aside from 1 season as a player (Viallis best signing in my opinion), he has no knowledge of the Championship. Zola back? i'd take that like a shot but I doubt it will happen. Di Matteo? no chance. Steve Clarke would be a good outside bet though but whoever it is needs to know the league. Dare we try and prize Kenny Jackett back with Nigel Gibbs as assistant? dawlishhornet
  • Score: 13

9:05pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Goldentrue1 says...

Banjo wrote:
Watford Man wrote:
Well I for one am sorry to see him go.
agreed, but I'd have Zola back in a heartbeat.
BTW, I don't care what any of you divs on here think of that.
I agree , I think he Zola went too early. However it won't be him.
I was never totally convinced with Beppe, but not sure I am happy with him leaving while we are 2nd in the table.
[quote][p][bold]Banjo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Watford Man[/bold] wrote: Well I for one am sorry to see him go.[/p][/quote]agreed, but I'd have Zola back in a heartbeat. BTW, I don't care what any of you divs on here think of that.[/p][/quote]I agree , I think he Zola went too early. However it won't be him. I was never totally convinced with Beppe, but not sure I am happy with him leaving while we are 2nd in the table. Goldentrue1
  • Score: 16

9:12pm Sun 31 Aug 14

londomollari says...

buckler wrote:
londomollari wrote:
buckler wrote:
I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.
You've become a happy clapper?
If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is.
Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?
Spanish I'm told ..
M'mmmm. Yes. I believe Oscar Garcia was at the match yesterday with, I understand, Nigel Gibbs (Or were they just sitting close to each other by pure coincidence?). Don't like the Galli rumours. Like the guy, but where is the british managerial experience we need?
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.[/p][/quote]You've become a happy clapper? If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is. Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?[/p][/quote]Spanish I'm told ..[/p][/quote]M'mmmm. Yes. I believe Oscar Garcia was at the match yesterday with, I understand, Nigel Gibbs (Or were they just sitting close to each other by pure coincidence?). Don't like the Galli rumours. Like the guy, but where is the british managerial experience we need? londomollari
  • Score: 11

9:12pm Sun 31 Aug 14

culpepper says...

Always liked the man and if you look at the stats then this is something that really doesn't fit right. However, we have to respect the pozzo way even if we don't always like it. I was just reflecting last night how lucky we are to be watching the likes of Tozser and Abdi every week and that three years ago this would have been unthinkable. If we take the huge number of positives of this whole project then we have to give a little too and trust the way they want to run the club.
After all most of us have little inside knowledge of day to day goings on but it would be a massive shame if this has happened just because a couple of players have kicked up a fuss over selection. With maybe the exception of Hoban you can argue yesterday was our strongest 11, Vydra and fessi I am sure will share the leg work this season, so there are a number of players that won't be in the squad every week, so what is going to change? Certainly Beppes biggest problem was his lack of English and being able to express things properly and he has never quite got to grips with some individuals in the camp.
but let's face it, we are second in the championship and at this time after 5 games we have never been as high under the Pozzos. He gets credit for that and also his tactics, it was heartwarming that we finally came through to win a tight game without conceding.
If you think back to the last game against Huddersfield though which was truly awful why wasn't the change made then as many of us though it would and as it was the end of season it would be a much better time?

Weird to think though that a manager has just resigned after probably his best match at the club, certainly in my years watching watford this hasn't happened.

Thank you Beppe, but we must still trust the custodians of the club who know more than us and a couple of weeks before we play again so still lots of reasons for us to be very optimistic this season.
Always liked the man and if you look at the stats then this is something that really doesn't fit right. However, we have to respect the pozzo way even if we don't always like it. I was just reflecting last night how lucky we are to be watching the likes of Tozser and Abdi every week and that three years ago this would have been unthinkable. If we take the huge number of positives of this whole project then we have to give a little too and trust the way they want to run the club. After all most of us have little inside knowledge of day to day goings on but it would be a massive shame if this has happened just because a couple of players have kicked up a fuss over selection. With maybe the exception of Hoban you can argue yesterday was our strongest 11, Vydra and fessi I am sure will share the leg work this season, so there are a number of players that won't be in the squad every week, so what is going to change? Certainly Beppes biggest problem was his lack of English and being able to express things properly and he has never quite got to grips with some individuals in the camp. but let's face it, we are second in the championship and at this time after 5 games we have never been as high under the Pozzos. He gets credit for that and also his tactics, it was heartwarming that we finally came through to win a tight game without conceding. If you think back to the last game against Huddersfield though which was truly awful why wasn't the change made then as many of us though it would and as it was the end of season it would be a much better time? Weird to think though that a manager has just resigned after probably his best match at the club, certainly in my years watching watford this hasn't happened. Thank you Beppe, but we must still trust the custodians of the club who know more than us and a couple of weeks before we play again so still lots of reasons for us to be very optimistic this season. culpepper
  • Score: 39

9:16pm Sun 31 Aug 14

lockerbiehornet says...

londomollari wrote:
Hampshire hornet wrote:
You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring.
They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx
I may not always agree with Lutondown and friends, and I didn't agree with their stance on Beppe. However, they never at any time accused Frank and the WO of stirring---it was people who were denying the 'Beppe going' rumours who were doing that. Frank and the WO were merely doing their job---reporting on what was happening at the club.
Why would Frank risk having the WO banned from the club by manufacturing stories or trying to manipulate the club?
Suggest you look at this ink then as it proves your wrong and LD was suggesting the WO and Frank (The big bad wolf) were behind this......AS IF


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[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring. They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx[/p][/quote]I may not always agree with Lutondown and friends, and I didn't agree with their stance on Beppe. However, they never at any time accused Frank and the WO of stirring---it was people who were denying the 'Beppe going' rumours who were doing that. Frank and the WO were merely doing their job---reporting on what was happening at the club. Why would Frank risk having the WO banned from the club by manufacturing stories or trying to manipulate the club?[/p][/quote]Suggest you look at this ink then as it proves your wrong and LD was suggesting the WO and Frank (The big bad wolf) were behind this......AS IF http://www.watfordob server.co.uk/sport/w atfordfc/watfordfcne ws/11431167.Battocch io_set_to_leave_Watf ord_for_Serie_B_side /#commentsList lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 2

9:19pm Sun 31 Aug 14

lockerbiehornet says...

femalehornet122 wrote:
No idea what the owners are doing. This is not the way to run a football club in England. If you look at wHo goes forward it is teams who have consistency in team and management. Bring back Zola with proper support and we will do it. Looks like a Leeds at the moment! Will not win anything like this consistency that is what we need
Deluded at best, keep off the wine gums
[quote][p][bold]femalehornet122[/bold] wrote: No idea what the owners are doing. This is not the way to run a football club in England. If you look at wHo goes forward it is teams who have consistency in team and management. Bring back Zola with proper support and we will do it. Looks like a Leeds at the moment! Will not win anything like this consistency that is what we need[/p][/quote]Deluded at best, keep off the wine gums lockerbiehornet
  • Score: -10

9:20pm Sun 31 Aug 14

fatboy6169 says...

Player power wins again, Beppe going to Leeds.
Player power wins again, Beppe going to Leeds. fatboy6169
  • Score: 7

9:25pm Sun 31 Aug 14

itsafamilyclub!!! says...

Id go for in this order..

Gary Neville

Jamie Carragher

Graham Souness

Ossie Ardiles

Glenn Hoddle
Id go for in this order.. Gary Neville Jamie Carragher Graham Souness Ossie Ardiles Glenn Hoddle itsafamilyclub!!!
  • Score: -44

9:35pm Sun 31 Aug 14

texas 1 says...

Gutted to hear the news.Seems a few players have gone behind his back and stitched him up.
He put a few noses out of joint,but got results.
Gutted to hear the news.Seems a few players have gone behind his back and stitched him up. He put a few noses out of joint,but got results. texas 1
  • Score: 13

9:37pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Hampshire hornet says...

Only reason Troy signed the deal.... FACT
Only reason Troy signed the deal.... FACT Hampshire hornet
  • Score: -7

9:39pm Sun 31 Aug 14

lutondown says...

lockerbiehornet wrote:
Hampshire hornet wrote:
You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring.
They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx
Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.
No you was behind the campaign against frank
You're making a fool of you self as ever old man
Chimps...ha ha
Is that your best shot? Top tool
[quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring. They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx[/p][/quote]Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.[/p][/quote]No you was behind the campaign against frank You're making a fool of you self as ever old man Chimps...ha ha Is that your best shot? Top tool lutondown
  • Score: -7

9:42pm Sun 31 Aug 14

DuffmanWFC says...

Rumour is Beppe to Leeds UTD - would make sense due to their rather colourful owner!
My question's; did the Pozzo's help engineer this? And did they want him out/already have a replacement? And/or were they gonna get rid but because of the good league form the only way Beppe was gonna go was if he lost the dressing room?
Only they will know but like I said I just hope we get a suitable appointment and not a stop gap manager that ruins our season!
The future is still bright COYH
Rumour is Beppe to Leeds UTD - would make sense due to their rather colourful owner! My question's; did the Pozzo's help engineer this? And did they want him out/already have a replacement? And/or were they gonna get rid but because of the good league form the only way Beppe was gonna go was if he lost the dressing room? Only they will know but like I said I just hope we get a suitable appointment and not a stop gap manager that ruins our season! The future is still bright COYH DuffmanWFC
  • Score: 2

9:42pm Sun 31 Aug 14

luther69 says...

Sannino was doing a super job , he should have stayed on but must have been pushed. Best of luck to the man!!Zola obvious choice he knows the players will play the preferred 3-5-2 , Zola with Steve Clarke as number 2 excellent winning combination.
Sannino was doing a super job , he should have stayed on but must have been pushed. Best of luck to the man!!Zola obvious choice he knows the players will play the preferred 3-5-2 , Zola with Steve Clarke as number 2 excellent winning combination. luther69
  • Score: 10

9:45pm Sun 31 Aug 14

nevergonnamakeit says...

I feel a song coming on ! ... https://www.youtube.
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b2M
I feel a song coming on ! ... https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=5_H-LY4J b2M nevergonnamakeit
  • Score: 0

9:46pm Sun 31 Aug 14

oldyella says...

My vote would be Zola with MM as defensive coach (on basis MM needs an opportunity to get back in the game right now, still lives in Berkhamsted and probably would jump at the chance).
Gives us a charismatic Coach, great attacking football, but this time someone who knows the division and has been an excellent defender; not GZ's "inexperienced friend" as before.

Garcia? What did he achieve at Brighton?

However, huge respect to the Pozzo's and their decision making.
Never forget where we would've been with Baz.
My vote would be Zola with MM as defensive coach (on basis MM needs an opportunity to get back in the game right now, still lives in Berkhamsted and probably would jump at the chance). Gives us a charismatic Coach, great attacking football, but this time someone who knows the division and has been an excellent defender; not GZ's "inexperienced friend" as before. Garcia? What did he achieve at Brighton? However, huge respect to the Pozzo's and their decision making. Never forget where we would've been with Baz. oldyella
  • Score: 1

9:47pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Wellyboy99 says...

Think we need to take some of this into consideration -
1/ Deeney knew about this hence why he signed new deal. If he didn't expect a transfer request.
2/ Stop blaming Dyer and McGugan as other players like Deeney also unhappy.
3/ Perfect timing with a 2 week break. Expect players were told to get on with it and win games and he will be gone at 2 week break.
4/ This was not a results decision but on his treatment of players in training. Cant scream in peoples faces for making a mistake, would you take it from your boss?
5/ He wasn't a good enough coach, sat proved that by taking off attacking players for defenders leaving us with a 7-1-1 formation. No out ball, would've been perfect for Dyer to come on with power and pace to support Deeney on his own up front.
6/ A new manager has been lined up long ago as this goes back to last season hence the collapse at the end.

Final thought -

If we are 2nd with an unhappy squad, what will happen with a happy squad?
Think we need to take some of this into consideration - 1/ Deeney knew about this hence why he signed new deal. If he didn't expect a transfer request. 2/ Stop blaming Dyer and McGugan as other players like Deeney also unhappy. 3/ Perfect timing with a 2 week break. Expect players were told to get on with it and win games and he will be gone at 2 week break. 4/ This was not a results decision but on his treatment of players in training. Cant scream in peoples faces for making a mistake, would you take it from your boss? 5/ He wasn't a good enough coach, sat proved that by taking off attacking players for defenders leaving us with a 7-1-1 formation. No out ball, would've been perfect for Dyer to come on with power and pace to support Deeney on his own up front. 6/ A new manager has been lined up long ago as this goes back to last season hence the collapse at the end. Final thought - If we are 2nd with an unhappy squad, what will happen with a happy squad? Wellyboy99
  • Score: -4

9:50pm Sun 31 Aug 14

lockerbiehornet says...

lutondown wrote:
lockerbiehornet wrote:
Hampshire hornet wrote:
You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring.
They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx
Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.
No you was behind the campaign against frank
You're making a fool of you self as ever old man
Chimps...ha ha
Is that your best shot? Top tool
Is that all you got? Proved wrong again and again and again, so am I still looking at Frank lovingly?
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring. They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx[/p][/quote]Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.[/p][/quote]No you was behind the campaign against frank You're making a fool of you self as ever old man Chimps...ha ha Is that your best shot? Top tool[/p][/quote]Is that all you got? Proved wrong again and again and again, so am I still looking at Frank lovingly? lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 3

9:51pm Sun 31 Aug 14

lutondown says...

A Capello wrote:
lockerbiehornet wrote:
Hampshire hornet wrote:
You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring.
They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx
Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.
Definitely shouldn't flatter the WO who have persistently dodged any opportunity to praise performances. Managerial or otherwise.
You certainly need a big band to help you with that monotone voice of yours
[quote][p][bold]A Capello[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring. They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx[/p][/quote]Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.[/p][/quote]Definitely shouldn't flatter the WO who have persistently dodged any opportunity to praise performances. Managerial or otherwise.[/p][/quote]You certainly need a big band to help you with that monotone voice of yours lutondown
  • Score: -11

9:52pm Sun 31 Aug 14

lutondown says...

Last word...
Hail Frank! You was right and the tools are upset ...good
Last word... Hail Frank! You was right and the tools are upset ...good lutondown
  • Score: -7

9:53pm Sun 31 Aug 14

bornyellow says...

Hope all the anti Sannino are happy now.....whatever club he goes to next will be a lucky one....our loss...someones gain....good luck Beppe.
Hope all the anti Sannino are happy now.....whatever club he goes to next will be a lucky one....our loss...someones gain....good luck Beppe. bornyellow
  • Score: 15

9:54pm Sun 31 Aug 14

bornyellow says...

Banjo wrote:
Watford Man wrote:
Well I for one am sorry to see him go.
agreed, but I'd have Zola back in a heartbeat.
BTW, I don't care what any of you divs on here think of that.
Zola ran..Beppe came...long live Sannino
[quote][p][bold]Banjo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Watford Man[/bold] wrote: Well I for one am sorry to see him go.[/p][/quote]agreed, but I'd have Zola back in a heartbeat. BTW, I don't care what any of you divs on here think of that.[/p][/quote]Zola ran..Beppe came...long live Sannino bornyellow
  • Score: 3

10:07pm Sun 31 Aug 14

4boys says...

Just when is bet on us getting promoted, gutted.
We sure do seem to have a lot of expert coaches on here maybe the club could appoint one of you muppets.
This is terrible news
Just when is bet on us getting promoted, gutted. We sure do seem to have a lot of expert coaches on here maybe the club could appoint one of you muppets. This is terrible news 4boys
  • Score: 2

10:11pm Sun 31 Aug 14

SJM...laugh at luton says...

Chris Hughton to be appointed manager on Tuesday...
Chris Hughton to be appointed manager on Tuesday... SJM...laugh at luton
  • Score: -12

10:13pm Sun 31 Aug 14

lockerbiehornet says...

lutondown wrote:
lockerbiehornet wrote:
Hampshire hornet wrote:
You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring.
They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx
Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.
No you was behind the campaign against frank
You're making a fool of you self as ever old man
Chimps...ha ha
Is that your best shot? Top tool
Check the link from last weeks conversation laughing boy, you'll clearly see me sticking up for Frank and the WO as I've worked with many of the WO team(and got accused of name dropping when I pointed this out) and I know this aint their style, so come on what's your next unfounded allegation you strap-on?www.watford
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[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring. They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx[/p][/quote]Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.[/p][/quote]No you was behind the campaign against frank You're making a fool of you self as ever old man Chimps...ha ha Is that your best shot? Top tool[/p][/quote]Check the link from last weeks conversation laughing boy, you'll clearly see me sticking up for Frank and the WO as I've worked with many of the WO team(and got accused of name dropping when I pointed this out) and I know this aint their style, so come on what's your next unfounded allegation you strap-on?www.watford observer.co.uk/sport /watfordfc/watfordfc news/11431167.Battoc chio_set_to_leave_Wa tford_for_Serie_B_si de/#commentsList lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 4

10:13pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Andrew1963 says...

Tried to buy a green pullover in M&S today, none available, must mean Vialli is on his way back with Galli as number 2
Tried to buy a green pullover in M&S today, none available, must mean Vialli is on his way back with Galli as number 2 Andrew1963
  • Score: -6

10:15pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Chris the Vic says...

Towards the end of last season our wonderful team failed to turn up with a number of horrendous and gutless performances that most probably rank as the worst performances over the 57 years I have followed Watford, from some of the better players that WFC have had. Our manager Sannino was very direct, made no excuses but said the DNA and character in some players was wrong and he pulled no punches.

This season he has built a squad that despite Joel's stupidity has kept going and fought well. It is early days and with the size of the squad not everyone can play. Now maybe he has been harsh at times but judging by the end of last season his methods had justification. GFZ was a really nice guy but last season we lost five on the trot at home before Beppe arrived and the performance against Yeovil in November was pathetic. The players remained the same and so at times did their performances.

Second in the table is a hell of an improvement and if it meant the manager playing bad cop, so be it. At leas this season we have no reason to cringe at the teams performances they have fought well and the extra training at the end of last season was no more than they deserved.

I expect players in our colours to give 100% and he has turned out teams this year who are knuckling down. A great shame he has gone.
If the team slip back we will regret his going
Towards the end of last season our wonderful team failed to turn up with a number of horrendous and gutless performances that most probably rank as the worst performances over the 57 years I have followed Watford, from some of the better players that WFC have had. Our manager Sannino was very direct, made no excuses but said the DNA and character in some players was wrong and he pulled no punches. This season he has built a squad that despite Joel's stupidity has kept going and fought well. It is early days and with the size of the squad not everyone can play. Now maybe he has been harsh at times but judging by the end of last season his methods had justification. GFZ was a really nice guy but last season we lost five on the trot at home before Beppe arrived and the performance against Yeovil in November was pathetic. The players remained the same and so at times did their performances. Second in the table is a hell of an improvement and if it meant the manager playing bad cop, so be it. At leas this season we have no reason to cringe at the teams performances they have fought well and the extra training at the end of last season was no more than they deserved. I expect players in our colours to give 100% and he has turned out teams this year who are knuckling down. A great shame he has gone. If the team slip back we will regret his going Chris the Vic
  • Score: 13

10:15pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Hornet Cornet says...

Gutted. Utterly gutted about this.
Gutted. Utterly gutted about this. Hornet Cornet
  • Score: 17

10:15pm Sun 31 Aug 14

AussieHornetsFan says...

This is not right. Employees don't have the right to get the Boss pushed out just because they do not like his style or demands. Also another Italian manager with little knowledge of Championship teams / grounds / nuances will not be good as there will be a steep learning curve and also further disruption to playing tactics / formations - just look at Man U!
This is not right. Employees don't have the right to get the Boss pushed out just because they do not like his style or demands. Also another Italian manager with little knowledge of Championship teams / grounds / nuances will not be good as there will be a steep learning curve and also further disruption to playing tactics / formations - just look at Man U! AussieHornetsFan
  • Score: 6

10:16pm Sun 31 Aug 14

mkhornet says...

Wool hornet wrote:
Sannino going to Leeds. Current Youth Team Manager from AC Milan just happened to fly into London this morning, that's Falippo Galli !!
Fillippo Galli, no thanks. What does he know about this division? It's changed a hell of a lot since he was here last. Great player but no managerial experience. Not what we need.
[quote][p][bold]Wool hornet[/bold] wrote: Sannino going to Leeds. Current Youth Team Manager from AC Milan just happened to fly into London this morning, that's Falippo Galli !![/p][/quote]Fillippo Galli, no thanks. What does he know about this division? It's changed a hell of a lot since he was here last. Great player but no managerial experience. Not what we need. mkhornet
  • Score: 11

10:19pm Sun 31 Aug 14

lockerbiehornet says...

lutondown wrote:
lockerbiehornet wrote:
Hampshire hornet wrote:
You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring.
They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx
Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.
No you was behind the campaign against frank
You're making a fool of you self as ever old man
Chimps...ha ha
Is that your best shot? Top tool
From some of your claimed (I say claimed) posts of seeing ex Horns playing you must be 50+........ I'm 44 so why the old man chants when at your age your probably pushing when you pee?
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: You are misinformed then and need to retract your comment as it reads that Lutondown and his merry group of chimps ... I guess I count myself in that group and take offence to that comment, will see Frank or the WO weren't stirring. They/ we never said he/ they (WO) were, in fact we were defending and supporting his reporting.. Looking forward to the response. Xx[/p][/quote]Clearly you weren't party to the conversation he and his merry chimps and I had last week on here where I was accused of looking at Frank with a loving gaze for suggesting it wasn't the WO or Frank. In fact Adam Levanthal reported this over a week ago on SSN, if your offended, I apologise as this wasn't my intention, I just wanted to make sure those who thought it was a WO thing realised it wasn't.[/p][/quote]No you was behind the campaign against frank You're making a fool of you self as ever old man Chimps...ha ha Is that your best shot? Top tool[/p][/quote]From some of your claimed (I say claimed) posts of seeing ex Horns playing you must be 50+........ I'm 44 so why the old man chants when at your age your probably pushing when you pee? lockerbiehornet
  • Score: -8

10:23pm Sun 31 Aug 14

EltonForever says...

As a passionate Watford supporter for well over thirty years, I just feel sad at this turn of events. We are second in the table. What will those so called fans be saying at Xmas if we have fallen to twelfth. Be careful what you wish for. Discipline is key to success. Ferguson stood up to the bully boys at Man Utd over the decades and shipped them out. We do the opposite. We stand second in the table and effectively sack the manager. Shame.
As a passionate Watford supporter for well over thirty years, I just feel sad at this turn of events. We are second in the table. What will those so called fans be saying at Xmas if we have fallen to twelfth. Be careful what you wish for. Discipline is key to success. Ferguson stood up to the bully boys at Man Utd over the decades and shipped them out. We do the opposite. We stand second in the table and effectively sack the manager. Shame. EltonForever
  • Score: 24

10:24pm Sun 31 Aug 14

bornyellow says...

lets hope....we can stay in the second tier and consolidate last years position...it was looking good but after this lets not put our hopes too high...when things are too good to be true its because they are....good luck Beppe..
lets hope....we can stay in the second tier and consolidate last years position...it was looking good but after this lets not put our hopes too high...when things are too good to be true its because they are....good luck Beppe.. bornyellow
  • Score: 8

10:29pm Sun 31 Aug 14

mkhornet says...

Thank you Beppe. you gave it everything and even if some of the players didn't back you the majority of the fans supported you. Good luck and you'll always get a great welcome at Vicarage Road.
Thank you Beppe. you gave it everything and even if some of the players didn't back you the majority of the fans supported you. Good luck and you'll always get a great welcome at Vicarage Road. mkhornet
  • Score: 27

10:38pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Stoney77 says...

culpepper wrote:
Always liked the man and if you look at the stats then this is something that really doesn't fit right. However, we have to respect the pozzo way even if we don't always like it. I was just reflecting last night how lucky we are to be watching the likes of Tozser and Abdi every week and that three years ago this would have been unthinkable. If we take the huge number of positives of this whole project then we have to give a little too and trust the way they want to run the club.
After all most of us have little inside knowledge of day to day goings on but it would be a massive shame if this has happened just because a couple of players have kicked up a fuss over selection. With maybe the exception of Hoban you can argue yesterday was our strongest 11, Vydra and fessi I am sure will share the leg work this season, so there are a number of players that won't be in the squad every week, so what is going to change? Certainly Beppes biggest problem was his lack of English and being able to express things properly and he has never quite got to grips with some individuals in the camp.
but let's face it, we are second in the championship and at this time after 5 games we have never been as high under the Pozzos. He gets credit for that and also his tactics, it was heartwarming that we finally came through to win a tight game without conceding.
If you think back to the last game against Huddersfield though which was truly awful why wasn't the change made then as many of us though it would and as it was the end of season it would be a much better time?

Weird to think though that a manager has just resigned after probably his best match at the club, certainly in my years watching watford this hasn't happened.

Thank you Beppe, but we must still trust the custodians of the club who know more than us and a couple of weeks before we play again so still lots of reasons for us to be very optimistic this season.
A good read there mate and I agree with pretty much everything you say.
I trust the Pozzo's and, perhaps naively, have blind faith in them. My initial reaction to this (making the assumption he has been forced out) was despair.....thinking to myself why now?? Why the flipping heck did the Pozzos not replace him in the summer. But having thought about it I think something has happened in the last 2-3 weeks to simply make his position untenable and the Pozzos have timed this to ensure a new manager gets a fortnight to get to work before his first game. He has certainly not been forced out just because of his tactics as a) they have improved since last season and b) well, he would have been replaced in June if the Pozzos believed him to be tactically inept. He has certainly not been sacked because he can't speak English or because of his reportedly passionate and , for want of a better word, dictatorial style; because again, if this was a problem, the Pozzos would have acted in the summer. This smacks of something quite major behind the scenes and perhaps Sannino's passion and aggressive behaviour boiled over into something physical which pushed the boundaries too far. Just some thoughts of course but it would make sense as I can't see why we would force a manager to resign at this point in the season.

The problems we face will not go away with a new manager though, and any prima Donna players we have will still throw a strop under a new manager when they are not picked.

It's a frustrating position to be in as the new manager must hit the ground running. But a new manager sees players upping their game.
Thanks Beppe. Loved the passion. You come across as a decent guy with good values. Unfortunately it's never enough on its own in the world of football. If we could cross breed you and Zola, we'd have a flipping good manager!! Good luck for the future.

The king is dead. Long live the King.
[quote][p][bold]culpepper[/bold] wrote: Always liked the man and if you look at the stats then this is something that really doesn't fit right. However, we have to respect the pozzo way even if we don't always like it. I was just reflecting last night how lucky we are to be watching the likes of Tozser and Abdi every week and that three years ago this would have been unthinkable. If we take the huge number of positives of this whole project then we have to give a little too and trust the way they want to run the club. After all most of us have little inside knowledge of day to day goings on but it would be a massive shame if this has happened just because a couple of players have kicked up a fuss over selection. With maybe the exception of Hoban you can argue yesterday was our strongest 11, Vydra and fessi I am sure will share the leg work this season, so there are a number of players that won't be in the squad every week, so what is going to change? Certainly Beppes biggest problem was his lack of English and being able to express things properly and he has never quite got to grips with some individuals in the camp. but let's face it, we are second in the championship and at this time after 5 games we have never been as high under the Pozzos. He gets credit for that and also his tactics, it was heartwarming that we finally came through to win a tight game without conceding. If you think back to the last game against Huddersfield though which was truly awful why wasn't the change made then as many of us though it would and as it was the end of season it would be a much better time? Weird to think though that a manager has just resigned after probably his best match at the club, certainly in my years watching watford this hasn't happened. Thank you Beppe, but we must still trust the custodians of the club who know more than us and a couple of weeks before we play again so still lots of reasons for us to be very optimistic this season.[/p][/quote]A good read there mate and I agree with pretty much everything you say. I trust the Pozzo's and, perhaps naively, have blind faith in them. My initial reaction to this (making the assumption he has been forced out) was despair.....thinking to myself why now?? Why the flipping heck did the Pozzos not replace him in the summer. But having thought about it I think something has happened in the last 2-3 weeks to simply make his position untenable and the Pozzos have timed this to ensure a new manager gets a fortnight to get to work before his first game. He has certainly not been forced out just because of his tactics as a) they have improved since last season and b) well, he would have been replaced in June if the Pozzos believed him to be tactically inept. He has certainly not been sacked because he can't speak English or because of his reportedly passionate and , for want of a better word, dictatorial style; because again, if this was a problem, the Pozzos would have acted in the summer. This smacks of something quite major behind the scenes and perhaps Sannino's passion and aggressive behaviour boiled over into something physical which pushed the boundaries too far. Just some thoughts of course but it would make sense as I can't see why we would force a manager to resign at this point in the season. The problems we face will not go away with a new manager though, and any prima Donna players we have will still throw a strop under a new manager when they are not picked. It's a frustrating position to be in as the new manager must hit the ground running. But a new manager sees players upping their game. Thanks Beppe. Loved the passion. You come across as a decent guy with good values. Unfortunately it's never enough on its own in the world of football. If we could cross breed you and Zola, we'd have a flipping good manager!! Good luck for the future. The king is dead. Long live the King. Stoney77
  • Score: 12

10:39pm Sun 31 Aug 14

berkshire orn says...

Its Oscar Garcia coyo
Its Oscar Garcia coyo berkshire orn
  • Score: -9

10:40pm Sun 31 Aug 14

There was only one Scully says...

Thank you Beppe, you did as much as your limitations allowed but you were never going to take us to the promised land and beyond. Your tactics, team selection, attitude was very circumspect. Saturday was a typical example. Why did you play with 3 central defenders who seem to get in each others way and why did you wait so long to bring of Anya who was very disappointing especially, after the unfortunate sending of 2 Tamas who was playing as a wing back!
Anya has not been the same player since his call for International duty!
It was not working and look at the pressure we were having from Huddersfield! The statistics on the game say it all for me.
We need a coach pref, British to take us to the Prem.
There has only been 1 foreign coach I can remember who has taken a club up to the prem and that was Martinez!

My gut feeling tells me it will be Rob De Mat who will be our next coach not British but the next best thing!
Thank you Beppe, you did as much as your limitations allowed but you were never going to take us to the promised land and beyond. Your tactics, team selection, attitude was very circumspect. Saturday was a typical example. Why did you play with 3 central defenders who seem to get in each others way and why did you wait so long to bring of Anya who was very disappointing especially, after the unfortunate sending of 2 Tamas who was playing as a wing back! Anya has not been the same player since his call for International duty! It was not working and look at the pressure we were having from Huddersfield! The statistics on the game say it all for me. We need a coach pref, British to take us to the Prem. There has only been 1 foreign coach I can remember who has taken a club up to the prem and that was Martinez! My gut feeling tells me it will be Rob De Mat who will be our next coach not British but the next best thing! There was only one Scully
  • Score: -2

10:41pm Sun 31 Aug 14

berkshire orn says...

It is Oscar Garcia
It is Oscar Garcia berkshire orn
  • Score: -8

10:57pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Derek Payne's Cellar says...

The BestTrip2011 wrote:
Fallipo Galli being touted.
I posted this on the last article thread as well, but check out his Twitter..

https://twitter.com/
filippogalli5
[quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: Fallipo Galli being touted.[/p][/quote]I posted this on the last article thread as well, but check out his Twitter.. https://twitter.com/ filippogalli5 Derek Payne's Cellar
  • Score: -3

11:05pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Hornet Cornet says...

Beppe's been forced out with us in 2nd position. Whoever takes over will do well to get us into a better position. Then what will all the Beppe-out people say? To say that I am disappointed is an understatement.
Beppe's been forced out with us in 2nd position. Whoever takes over will do well to get us into a better position. Then what will all the Beppe-out people say? To say that I am disappointed is an understatement. Hornet Cornet
  • Score: 9

11:08pm Sun 31 Aug 14

bornyellow says...

mkhornet wrote:
Thank you Beppe. you gave it everything and even if some of the players didn't back you the majority of the fans supported you. Good luck and you'll always get a great welcome at Vicarage Road.
well said
[quote][p][bold]mkhornet[/bold] wrote: Thank you Beppe. you gave it everything and even if some of the players didn't back you the majority of the fans supported you. Good luck and you'll always get a great welcome at Vicarage Road.[/p][/quote]well said bornyellow
  • Score: 5

11:31pm Sun 31 Aug 14

berkshire orn says...

buckler wrote:
I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.
Idiot we can do with out fans like you moron sit in your single room in mummys house dreaming you follow the horns home and away has mummy tucked you up night night
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.[/p][/quote]Idiot we can do with out fans like you moron sit in your single room in mummys house dreaming you follow the horns home and away has mummy tucked you up night night berkshire orn
  • Score: 3

11:39pm Sun 31 Aug 14

berkshire orn says...

buckler wrote:
I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.
Are you a scu**er fan were is my s**t**n
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.[/p][/quote]Are you a scu**er fan were is my s**t**n berkshire orn
  • Score: 2

11:51pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Cuthbert007 says...

I really hope they go for Big Malky he has Chamionship experience, is the fans favourite and knows Watford inside out. He will get us up like he did with Cardiff. If not him i think Tony Pulis would do a decent job and if it has to be an Italian manager again which it probably will be then go for DiMatteo.
I really hope they go for Big Malky he has Chamionship experience, is the fans favourite and knows Watford inside out. He will get us up like he did with Cardiff. If not him i think Tony Pulis would do a decent job and if it has to be an Italian manager again which it probably will be then go for DiMatteo. Cuthbert007
  • Score: -5

11:54pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Henry VIII says...

I'm absolutely gutted. I struggle to understand this game I have loved for so long anymore. People talk about business, politics whatever it is - I do not know and I don't pretend to. Here we are second in the league heading into a Euro weekend with a manager who had shown more passion and animation than many - and I liked that. I do understand that the Pozzo family are an excellent addition to our club, they have worked wonders, but just as a fan, on the outside of all the day-to-day stuff that happens at a club, I just don't get it. Whoever comes in, I will support as I have since a child. But the pressure to keep us top two will be there from the start, and whoever that man is, he will have to handle it. Thank you Beppe, you were a refreshing change and I am truly sorry to see you go. Good luck and thank you.
I'm absolutely gutted. I struggle to understand this game I have loved for so long anymore. People talk about business, politics whatever it is - I do not know and I don't pretend to. Here we are second in the league heading into a Euro weekend with a manager who had shown more passion and animation than many - and I liked that. I do understand that the Pozzo family are an excellent addition to our club, they have worked wonders, but just as a fan, on the outside of all the day-to-day stuff that happens at a club, I just don't get it. Whoever comes in, I will support as I have since a child. But the pressure to keep us top two will be there from the start, and whoever that man is, he will have to handle it. Thank you Beppe, you were a refreshing change and I am truly sorry to see you go. Good luck and thank you. Henry VIII
  • Score: 6

12:03am Mon 1 Sep 14

mbwfc1976 says...

What follows is 100% how I view this (mega War n Peace post alert!)....if people like my thoughts that's great and no worries if they don't like them, last time I looked we were living in a free country, after all :-)

Beppe's departure is obviously a very emotive subject, if reacting with your heart...and in that respect I am sad to see him leave, because his passion and desire to do well with WFC was there for all to see.

But rather than focus on reacting to the news of Beppe's departure with my heart, I think purely from my point of view, that it would far more advisable to react to this news with my head.

Because the best interests of Watford FC both off the pitch and especially on it, is by a country mile the most important factor in all of this...and anyone who disagrees with that thought is no Watford fan in my eyes! :-)

So with that in mind, I have to say that Beppe's resignation comes as no surprise to me whatsoever, for a number of reasons, as follows....

1. The nigh on constant ill-discipline: Since Beppe has been in charge, I shudder to think how many players we've had sent off.

This for me is 100% indicative of a lack of respect towards the head coach. I mean how many players did we have sent off for us under Zola, compared to under Beppe? That's like comparing chalk and cheese.

And the reason that scarcely anyone was sent off under Zola, for me at least, was because GFZ being the legend he is, meant that he instantly had the respect of all players.

Beppe doesn't have the same standing in the game as GFZ...and the signs of this ill-discipline were there for all to say, during that horrendous last few games after the Ipswich home win, at the tail end of last season.

I was quite surprised that we didn't have a new head coach at the start of this season, given that shocking ending to last season, allied to the fact that Beppe was only originally brought in to the end of last season, IIRC.

Tamas's ridiculous hack on the Huddersfield player yesterday, after this player had taken the ball out of play for a Watford throw in no less, was yet another sign for me, that there was no end in sight to our horrendous disciplinary record under Beppe.

We are SO **** lucky that we've had such an easy start to this season, bar Norwich away.

Can you imagine if we'd played say Forest, Wolves and Cardiff, instead of Bolton (truly appalling), Rotherham (going to finish mid-table at best...more on that win in point #2 below) and Beeston United (run by a wannabe dictator, with the about to be sacked Dave Hockawho? in charge...a team that mustered precisely ZERO efforts on our goal for the whole 90 minutes)?

Thank the footballing gods that hasn't been the case, because if we had played them lot instead and been short-handed in any of those games, we would be a million miles away from second place right now, in the embryonic Championship table, no doubt about it.

2. Beppe's tactics / subs: Sorry but I had to chuckle to myself when I saw a comment on here about the Hoban sub being a good one yesterday...simply because Tommie should never have been on the bench in the first place!

He's played superbly during yet another Ekstrand 3 game ban and while Tamas took up the mantle from Joel yesterday of "a red card waiting to happen", I couldn't believe Tommie had been dropped after some truly stand-out performances. He was nothing short of exceptional away to Rotherham (one of very few that night!), for example.

While Joel's latest red wasn't as clear cut as those from last season, put yourself in Tommie's shoes...I've just played really well while covering for a guy who is serving YET ANOTHER ban for getting sent off and then he walks straight back in to the team, in spite of me playing so well in his enforced absence?

I would have been majorly pi**ed off if, I had been in Tommie's position, when the teams were announced yesterday

So to Rotherham away and some crystal clear issues with Beppe's tactics AND his (very delayed) substitutions...afte
r that game I was boring many Hornet amigos by telling them that we won that game "despite our Head Coach".

Why?

Because while we ended running out comfortable winners that night, a more clinical team than Rotherham would have annihilated us if we'd played like that against them, for the first 65 minutes or so.

The 4-4-2 was blatantly not working in the first half and Fabbrini was once again constantly running into dead ends...

...and while he was fouled a fair bit and the ref didn't afford him much / any protection, he did spend a significant amount of time on the ground, when minimal or possibly even no contact was made...much like last season therefore.

A dynamic manager / Head Coach would have made a sub at half time...that game was crying out for Dyer to come on for the frustrating Fabbrini, but not Beppe that night, instead he stood by and watched an even worse first 15 minutes to the 2nd half (how it could have got worse than the first 45 I have no idea, but it **** well did!), where we lucky not to have a man sent off (Angella I think it was) when he brought down a Rotherham striker on the edge of the box (there must have been a covering defender, thank heavens).

Only when Matty V got a dead leg on 60 minutes did he make the first sub, bringing Ighalo on (and look at the difference he made)...then finally about 5 minutes later, the substitution that SHOULD have happened at HT, did happen...

...shock horror Ighalo assists Dyer for one of the most undeserved opening goals of a game to Watford, that I can remember in many a year.

Lloyd Dyer had been at Leicester for 6 years and turned down the chance to play Prem footy, to come and get regular first team footy for us.

He'd scored at Stevenage, made a difference (as much as was possible, given we were down to 10 men after 120 seconds) at Norwich, but still hadn't been given a starting spot.

He'd then sat and watched another hugely frustrating performance from Fabbrini, a 4-4-2 that wasn't working and an anaemic lack of subs despite all of this by Beppe, so I wasn't surprised he went so ballistic after scoring, at least he was showing some much needed passion, something that had been totally lacing from our insipid performance up until that point!

3. "Fine margins": We all know how agonisingly close we came to automatic promotion the season before last (**** u Paddy Kenny for making that great save to stop us taking the lead, just before Beeston's last minute winner in the final game of that season)

If Beppe had stayed on, the major issues I've outlined in points 1 and 2 above, would more than likely have cost us a fair few points (due to a sending off or employing Rotherham tactics away to Forest, for example).

And having seen how close we came previously, it is 200% imperative that we do NOT let that happen again, this time around.

Finally, if you add-in the old cliché "there's no smoke without fire", there have clearly been some fairly major disconnects going on behind the scenes.

As fans we will never know the full story, but whatever was going on, the one factor that I can't get away from in all of this, is that the respect had gone between the players and Beppe.

It's very easy to start apportioning blame at this point, but I come back to the "fine margins" point...so rather than start a pointless mud slinging contest, the only result of which will more than likely be "causing major damage to our team's promotion chances this season", what we as fans need to do is dead simple...

1. Thank Beppe for his time with us and wish him all the best for the future
2.Keep creating superb atmospheres like we did late on yesterday (and not have to get Daniel T and Gabrielle A to rouse us to do so!) and hopefully claim another assist for a goal in the process :-)
3. Know that the Pozzos have nothing but the best interests of Watford FC at the forefront of their minds, at all times (hello everyone new East Stand is almost here!!)
4. Get 1000% behind the new Manager / Head Coach and roar the lads on home and away, to promotion hopefully!

Mr Galli's tweet and "Still a Fortress" photo speaks volumes for me...how's about getting Zola back with Fillipo as his assistant?

Bring on the "new dawn" and COYH!!! :-)
What follows is 100% how I view this (mega War n Peace post alert!)....if people like my thoughts that's great and no worries if they don't like them, last time I looked we were living in a free country, after all :-) Beppe's departure is obviously a very emotive subject, if reacting with your heart...and in that respect I am sad to see him leave, because his passion and desire to do well with WFC was there for all to see. But rather than focus on reacting to the news of Beppe's departure with my heart, I think purely from my point of view, that it would far more advisable to react to this news with my head. Because the best interests of Watford FC both off the pitch and especially on it, is by a country mile the most important factor in all of this...and anyone who disagrees with that thought is no Watford fan in my eyes! :-) So with that in mind, I have to say that Beppe's resignation comes as no surprise to me whatsoever, for a number of reasons, as follows.... 1. The nigh on constant ill-discipline: Since Beppe has been in charge, I shudder to think how many players we've had sent off. This for me is 100% indicative of a lack of respect towards the head coach. I mean how many players did we have sent off for us under Zola, compared to under Beppe? That's like comparing chalk and cheese. And the reason that scarcely anyone was sent off under Zola, for me at least, was because GFZ being the legend he is, meant that he instantly had the respect of all players. Beppe doesn't have the same standing in the game as GFZ...and the signs of this ill-discipline were there for all to say, during that horrendous last few games after the Ipswich home win, at the tail end of last season. I was quite surprised that we didn't have a new head coach at the start of this season, given that shocking ending to last season, allied to the fact that Beppe was only originally brought in to the end of last season, IIRC. Tamas's ridiculous hack on the Huddersfield player yesterday, after this player had taken the ball out of play for a Watford throw in no less, was yet another sign for me, that there was no end in sight to our horrendous disciplinary record under Beppe. We are SO **** lucky that we've had such an easy start to this season, bar Norwich away. Can you imagine if we'd played say Forest, Wolves and Cardiff, instead of Bolton (truly appalling), Rotherham (going to finish mid-table at best...more on that win in point #2 below) and Beeston United (run by a wannabe dictator, with the about to be sacked Dave Hockawho? in charge...a team that mustered precisely ZERO efforts on our goal for the whole 90 minutes)? Thank the footballing gods that hasn't been the case, because if we had played them lot instead and been short-handed in any of those games, we would be a million miles away from second place right now, in the embryonic Championship table, no doubt about it. 2. Beppe's tactics / subs: Sorry but I had to chuckle to myself when I saw a comment on here about the Hoban sub being a good one yesterday...simply because Tommie should never have been on the bench in the first place! He's played superbly during yet another Ekstrand 3 game ban and while Tamas took up the mantle from Joel yesterday of "a red card waiting to happen", I couldn't believe Tommie had been dropped after some truly stand-out performances. He was nothing short of exceptional away to Rotherham (one of very few that night!), for example. While Joel's latest red wasn't as clear cut as those from last season, put yourself in Tommie's shoes...I've just played really well while covering for a guy who is serving YET ANOTHER ban for getting sent off and then he walks straight back in to the team, in spite of me playing so well in his enforced absence? I would have been majorly pi**ed off if, I had been in Tommie's position, when the teams were announced yesterday So to Rotherham away and some crystal clear issues with Beppe's tactics AND his (very delayed) substitutions...afte r that game I was boring many Hornet amigos by telling them that we won that game "despite our Head Coach". Why? Because while we ended running out comfortable winners that night, a more clinical team than Rotherham would have annihilated us if we'd played like that against them, for the first 65 minutes or so. The 4-4-2 was blatantly not working in the first half and Fabbrini was once again constantly running into dead ends... ...and while he was fouled a fair bit and the ref didn't afford him much / any protection, he did spend a significant amount of time on the ground, when minimal or possibly even no contact was made...much like last season therefore. A dynamic manager / Head Coach would have made a sub at half time...that game was crying out for Dyer to come on for the frustrating Fabbrini, but not Beppe that night, instead he stood by and watched an even worse first 15 minutes to the 2nd half (how it could have got worse than the first 45 I have no idea, but it **** well did!), where we lucky not to have a man sent off (Angella I think it was) when he brought down a Rotherham striker on the edge of the box (there must have been a covering defender, thank heavens). Only when Matty V got a dead leg on 60 minutes did he make the first sub, bringing Ighalo on (and look at the difference he made)...then finally about 5 minutes later, the substitution that SHOULD have happened at HT, did happen... ...shock horror Ighalo assists Dyer for one of the most undeserved opening goals of a game to Watford, that I can remember in many a year. Lloyd Dyer had been at Leicester for 6 years and turned down the chance to play Prem footy, to come and get regular first team footy for us. He'd scored at Stevenage, made a difference (as much as was possible, given we were down to 10 men after 120 seconds) at Norwich, but still hadn't been given a starting spot. He'd then sat and watched another hugely frustrating performance from Fabbrini, a 4-4-2 that wasn't working and an anaemic lack of subs despite all of this by Beppe, so I wasn't surprised he went so ballistic after scoring, at least he was showing some much needed passion, something that had been totally lacing from our insipid performance up until that point! 3. "Fine margins": We all know how agonisingly close we came to automatic promotion the season before last (**** u Paddy Kenny for making that great save to stop us taking the lead, just before Beeston's last minute winner in the final game of that season) If Beppe had stayed on, the major issues I've outlined in points 1 and 2 above, would more than likely have cost us a fair few points (due to a sending off or employing Rotherham tactics away to Forest, for example). And having seen how close we came previously, it is 200% imperative that we do NOT let that happen again, this time around. Finally, if you add-in the old cliché "there's no smoke without fire", there have clearly been some fairly major disconnects going on behind the scenes. As fans we will never know the full story, but whatever was going on, the one factor that I can't get away from in all of this, is that the respect had gone between the players and Beppe. It's very easy to start apportioning blame at this point, but I come back to the "fine margins" point...so rather than start a pointless mud slinging contest, the only result of which will more than likely be "causing major damage to our team's promotion chances this season", what we as fans need to do is dead simple... 1. Thank Beppe for his time with us and wish him all the best for the future 2.Keep creating superb atmospheres like we did late on yesterday (and not have to get Daniel T and Gabrielle A to rouse us to do so!) and hopefully claim another assist for a goal in the process :-) 3. Know that the Pozzos have nothing but the best interests of Watford FC at the forefront of their minds, at all times (hello everyone new East Stand is almost here!!) 4. Get 1000% behind the new Manager / Head Coach and roar the lads on home and away, to promotion hopefully! Mr Galli's tweet and "Still a Fortress" photo speaks volumes for me...how's about getting Zola back with Fillipo as his assistant? Bring on the "new dawn" and COYH!!! :-) mbwfc1976
  • Score: 4

1:28am Mon 1 Sep 14

Bush Hornet says...

mbwfc1976 wrote:
What follows is 100% how I view this (mega War n Peace post alert!)....if people like my thoughts that's great and no worries if they don't like them, last time I looked we were living in a free country, after all :-)

Beppe's departure is obviously a very emotive subject, if reacting with your heart...and in that respect I am sad to see him leave, because his passion and desire to do well with WFC was there for all to see.

But rather than focus on reacting to the news of Beppe's departure with my heart, I think purely from my point of view, that it would far more advisable to react to this news with my head.

Because the best interests of Watford FC both off the pitch and especially on it, is by a country mile the most important factor in all of this...and anyone who disagrees with that thought is no Watford fan in my eyes! :-)

So with that in mind, I have to say that Beppe's resignation comes as no surprise to me whatsoever, for a number of reasons, as follows....

1. The nigh on constant ill-discipline: Since Beppe has been in charge, I shudder to think how many players we've had sent off.

This for me is 100% indicative of a lack of respect towards the head coach. I mean how many players did we have sent off for us under Zola, compared to under Beppe? That's like comparing chalk and cheese.

And the reason that scarcely anyone was sent off under Zola, for me at least, was because GFZ being the legend he is, meant that he instantly had the respect of all players.

Beppe doesn't have the same standing in the game as GFZ...and the signs of this ill-discipline were there for all to say, during that horrendous last few games after the Ipswich home win, at the tail end of last season.

I was quite surprised that we didn't have a new head coach at the start of this season, given that shocking ending to last season, allied to the fact that Beppe was only originally brought in to the end of last season, IIRC.

Tamas's ridiculous hack on the Huddersfield player yesterday, after this player had taken the ball out of play for a Watford throw in no less, was yet another sign for me, that there was no end in sight to our horrendous disciplinary record under Beppe.

We are SO **** lucky that we've had such an easy start to this season, bar Norwich away.

Can you imagine if we'd played say Forest, Wolves and Cardiff, instead of Bolton (truly appalling), Rotherham (going to finish mid-table at best...more on that win in point #2 below) and Beeston United (run by a wannabe dictator, with the about to be sacked Dave Hockawho? in charge...a team that mustered precisely ZERO efforts on our goal for the whole 90 minutes)?

Thank the footballing gods that hasn't been the case, because if we had played them lot instead and been short-handed in any of those games, we would be a million miles away from second place right now, in the embryonic Championship table, no doubt about it.

2. Beppe's tactics / subs: Sorry but I had to chuckle to myself when I saw a comment on here about the Hoban sub being a good one yesterday...simply because Tommie should never have been on the bench in the first place!

He's played superbly during yet another Ekstrand 3 game ban and while Tamas took up the mantle from Joel yesterday of "a red card waiting to happen", I couldn't believe Tommie had been dropped after some truly stand-out performances. He was nothing short of exceptional away to Rotherham (one of very few that night!), for example.

While Joel's latest red wasn't as clear cut as those from last season, put yourself in Tommie's shoes...I've just played really well while covering for a guy who is serving YET ANOTHER ban for getting sent off and then he walks straight back in to the team, in spite of me playing so well in his enforced absence?

I would have been majorly pi**ed off if, I had been in Tommie's position, when the teams were announced yesterday

So to Rotherham away and some crystal clear issues with Beppe's tactics AND his (very delayed) substitutions...afte

r that game I was boring many Hornet amigos by telling them that we won that game "despite our Head Coach".

Why?

Because while we ended running out comfortable winners that night, a more clinical team than Rotherham would have annihilated us if we'd played like that against them, for the first 65 minutes or so.

The 4-4-2 was blatantly not working in the first half and Fabbrini was once again constantly running into dead ends...

...and while he was fouled a fair bit and the ref didn't afford him much / any protection, he did spend a significant amount of time on the ground, when minimal or possibly even no contact was made...much like last season therefore.

A dynamic manager / Head Coach would have made a sub at half time...that game was crying out for Dyer to come on for the frustrating Fabbrini, but not Beppe that night, instead he stood by and watched an even worse first 15 minutes to the 2nd half (how it could have got worse than the first 45 I have no idea, but it **** well did!), where we lucky not to have a man sent off (Angella I think it was) when he brought down a Rotherham striker on the edge of the box (there must have been a covering defender, thank heavens).

Only when Matty V got a dead leg on 60 minutes did he make the first sub, bringing Ighalo on (and look at the difference he made)...then finally about 5 minutes later, the substitution that SHOULD have happened at HT, did happen...

...shock horror Ighalo assists Dyer for one of the most undeserved opening goals of a game to Watford, that I can remember in many a year.

Lloyd Dyer had been at Leicester for 6 years and turned down the chance to play Prem footy, to come and get regular first team footy for us.

He'd scored at Stevenage, made a difference (as much as was possible, given we were down to 10 men after 120 seconds) at Norwich, but still hadn't been given a starting spot.

He'd then sat and watched another hugely frustrating performance from Fabbrini, a 4-4-2 that wasn't working and an anaemic lack of subs despite all of this by Beppe, so I wasn't surprised he went so ballistic after scoring, at least he was showing some much needed passion, something that had been totally lacing from our insipid performance up until that point!

3. "Fine margins": We all know how agonisingly close we came to automatic promotion the season before last (**** u Paddy Kenny for making that great save to stop us taking the lead, just before Beeston's last minute winner in the final game of that season)

If Beppe had stayed on, the major issues I've outlined in points 1 and 2 above, would more than likely have cost us a fair few points (due to a sending off or employing Rotherham tactics away to Forest, for example).

And having seen how close we came previously, it is 200% imperative that we do NOT let that happen again, this time around.

Finally, if you add-in the old cliché "there's no smoke without fire", there have clearly been some fairly major disconnects going on behind the scenes.

As fans we will never know the full story, but whatever was going on, the one factor that I can't get away from in all of this, is that the respect had gone between the players and Beppe.

It's very easy to start apportioning blame at this point, but I come back to the "fine margins" point...so rather than start a pointless mud slinging contest, the only result of which will more than likely be "causing major damage to our team's promotion chances this season", what we as fans need to do is dead simple...

1. Thank Beppe for his time with us and wish him all the best for the future
2.Keep creating superb atmospheres like we did late on yesterday (and not have to get Daniel T and Gabrielle A to rouse us to do so!) and hopefully claim another assist for a goal in the process :-)
3. Know that the Pozzos have nothing but the best interests of Watford FC at the forefront of their minds, at all times (hello everyone new East Stand is almost here!!)
4. Get 1000% behind the new Manager / Head Coach and roar the lads on home and away, to promotion hopefully!

Mr Galli's tweet and "Still a Fortress" photo speaks volumes for me...how's about getting Zola back with Fillipo as his assistant?

Bring on the "new dawn" and COYH!!! :-)
GREAT post. You've calmly summed up a few facts amidst all the histrionics on here.
[quote][p][bold]mbwfc1976[/bold] wrote: What follows is 100% how I view this (mega War n Peace post alert!)....if people like my thoughts that's great and no worries if they don't like them, last time I looked we were living in a free country, after all :-) Beppe's departure is obviously a very emotive subject, if reacting with your heart...and in that respect I am sad to see him leave, because his passion and desire to do well with WFC was there for all to see. But rather than focus on reacting to the news of Beppe's departure with my heart, I think purely from my point of view, that it would far more advisable to react to this news with my head. Because the best interests of Watford FC both off the pitch and especially on it, is by a country mile the most important factor in all of this...and anyone who disagrees with that thought is no Watford fan in my eyes! :-) So with that in mind, I have to say that Beppe's resignation comes as no surprise to me whatsoever, for a number of reasons, as follows.... 1. The nigh on constant ill-discipline: Since Beppe has been in charge, I shudder to think how many players we've had sent off. This for me is 100% indicative of a lack of respect towards the head coach. I mean how many players did we have sent off for us under Zola, compared to under Beppe? That's like comparing chalk and cheese. And the reason that scarcely anyone was sent off under Zola, for me at least, was because GFZ being the legend he is, meant that he instantly had the respect of all players. Beppe doesn't have the same standing in the game as GFZ...and the signs of this ill-discipline were there for all to say, during that horrendous last few games after the Ipswich home win, at the tail end of last season. I was quite surprised that we didn't have a new head coach at the start of this season, given that shocking ending to last season, allied to the fact that Beppe was only originally brought in to the end of last season, IIRC. Tamas's ridiculous hack on the Huddersfield player yesterday, after this player had taken the ball out of play for a Watford throw in no less, was yet another sign for me, that there was no end in sight to our horrendous disciplinary record under Beppe. We are SO **** lucky that we've had such an easy start to this season, bar Norwich away. Can you imagine if we'd played say Forest, Wolves and Cardiff, instead of Bolton (truly appalling), Rotherham (going to finish mid-table at best...more on that win in point #2 below) and Beeston United (run by a wannabe dictator, with the about to be sacked Dave Hockawho? in charge...a team that mustered precisely ZERO efforts on our goal for the whole 90 minutes)? Thank the footballing gods that hasn't been the case, because if we had played them lot instead and been short-handed in any of those games, we would be a million miles away from second place right now, in the embryonic Championship table, no doubt about it. 2. Beppe's tactics / subs: Sorry but I had to chuckle to myself when I saw a comment on here about the Hoban sub being a good one yesterday...simply because Tommie should never have been on the bench in the first place! He's played superbly during yet another Ekstrand 3 game ban and while Tamas took up the mantle from Joel yesterday of "a red card waiting to happen", I couldn't believe Tommie had been dropped after some truly stand-out performances. He was nothing short of exceptional away to Rotherham (one of very few that night!), for example. While Joel's latest red wasn't as clear cut as those from last season, put yourself in Tommie's shoes...I've just played really well while covering for a guy who is serving YET ANOTHER ban for getting sent off and then he walks straight back in to the team, in spite of me playing so well in his enforced absence? I would have been majorly pi**ed off if, I had been in Tommie's position, when the teams were announced yesterday So to Rotherham away and some crystal clear issues with Beppe's tactics AND his (very delayed) substitutions...afte r that game I was boring many Hornet amigos by telling them that we won that game "despite our Head Coach". Why? Because while we ended running out comfortable winners that night, a more clinical team than Rotherham would have annihilated us if we'd played like that against them, for the first 65 minutes or so. The 4-4-2 was blatantly not working in the first half and Fabbrini was once again constantly running into dead ends... ...and while he was fouled a fair bit and the ref didn't afford him much / any protection, he did spend a significant amount of time on the ground, when minimal or possibly even no contact was made...much like last season therefore. A dynamic manager / Head Coach would have made a sub at half time...that game was crying out for Dyer to come on for the frustrating Fabbrini, but not Beppe that night, instead he stood by and watched an even worse first 15 minutes to the 2nd half (how it could have got worse than the first 45 I have no idea, but it **** well did!), where we lucky not to have a man sent off (Angella I think it was) when he brought down a Rotherham striker on the edge of the box (there must have been a covering defender, thank heavens). Only when Matty V got a dead leg on 60 minutes did he make the first sub, bringing Ighalo on (and look at the difference he made)...then finally about 5 minutes later, the substitution that SHOULD have happened at HT, did happen... ...shock horror Ighalo assists Dyer for one of the most undeserved opening goals of a game to Watford, that I can remember in many a year. Lloyd Dyer had been at Leicester for 6 years and turned down the chance to play Prem footy, to come and get regular first team footy for us. He'd scored at Stevenage, made a difference (as much as was possible, given we were down to 10 men after 120 seconds) at Norwich, but still hadn't been given a starting spot. He'd then sat and watched another hugely frustrating performance from Fabbrini, a 4-4-2 that wasn't working and an anaemic lack of subs despite all of this by Beppe, so I wasn't surprised he went so ballistic after scoring, at least he was showing some much needed passion, something that had been totally lacing from our insipid performance up until that point! 3. "Fine margins": We all know how agonisingly close we came to automatic promotion the season before last (**** u Paddy Kenny for making that great save to stop us taking the lead, just before Beeston's last minute winner in the final game of that season) If Beppe had stayed on, the major issues I've outlined in points 1 and 2 above, would more than likely have cost us a fair few points (due to a sending off or employing Rotherham tactics away to Forest, for example). And having seen how close we came previously, it is 200% imperative that we do NOT let that happen again, this time around. Finally, if you add-in the old cliché "there's no smoke without fire", there have clearly been some fairly major disconnects going on behind the scenes. As fans we will never know the full story, but whatever was going on, the one factor that I can't get away from in all of this, is that the respect had gone between the players and Beppe. It's very easy to start apportioning blame at this point, but I come back to the "fine margins" point...so rather than start a pointless mud slinging contest, the only result of which will more than likely be "causing major damage to our team's promotion chances this season", what we as fans need to do is dead simple... 1. Thank Beppe for his time with us and wish him all the best for the future 2.Keep creating superb atmospheres like we did late on yesterday (and not have to get Daniel T and Gabrielle A to rouse us to do so!) and hopefully claim another assist for a goal in the process :-) 3. Know that the Pozzos have nothing but the best interests of Watford FC at the forefront of their minds, at all times (hello everyone new East Stand is almost here!!) 4. Get 1000% behind the new Manager / Head Coach and roar the lads on home and away, to promotion hopefully! Mr Galli's tweet and "Still a Fortress" photo speaks volumes for me...how's about getting Zola back with Fillipo as his assistant? Bring on the "new dawn" and COYH!!! :-)[/p][/quote]GREAT post. You've calmly summed up a few facts amidst all the histrionics on here. Bush Hornet
  • Score: 3

1:43am Mon 1 Sep 14

Henry VIII says...

I was just thinking that Deeney, our greatest playing asset MUST have been fully aware of the goings-on behind the scenes. He talks straight and I respect him very much for doing so - in which case he must have known and felt very comfortable with the new manager in-waiting in the wings...whoever that may be. The one thing I certainly respect the Pozzo's for (among others) is the timing in that we have international week ahead, which will give whoever comes along a bit of time to get to know the majority of the squad. What a start to September!
I was just thinking that Deeney, our greatest playing asset MUST have been fully aware of the goings-on behind the scenes. He talks straight and I respect him very much for doing so - in which case he must have known and felt very comfortable with the new manager in-waiting in the wings...whoever that may be. The one thing I certainly respect the Pozzo's for (among others) is the timing in that we have international week ahead, which will give whoever comes along a bit of time to get to know the majority of the squad. What a start to September! Henry VIII
  • Score: 2

6:43am Mon 1 Sep 14

buckler says...

berkshire orn wrote:
buckler wrote:
I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.
Are you a scu**er fan were is my s**t**n
Crawl back under your stone .. You can't cope with the fact I call everything right ! Adidos - ( clue )
[quote][p][bold]berkshire orn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.[/p][/quote]Are you a scu**er fan were is my s**t**n[/p][/quote]Crawl back under your stone .. You can't cope with the fact I call everything right ! Adidos - ( clue ) buckler
  • Score: -3

6:44am Mon 1 Sep 14

buckler says...

berkshire orn wrote:
buckler wrote:
I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.
Are you a scu**er fan were is my s**t**n
Crawl back under your stone .. You can't cope with the fact I call everything right ! Adidos - ( clue )
[quote][p][bold]berkshire orn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.[/p][/quote]Are you a scu**er fan were is my s**t**n[/p][/quote]Crawl back under your stone .. You can't cope with the fact I call everything right ! Adidos - ( clue ) buckler
  • Score: 0

7:47am Mon 1 Sep 14

mbwfc1976 says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
mbwfc1976 wrote: What follows is 100% how I view this (mega War n Peace post alert!)....if people like my thoughts that's great and no worries if they don't like them, last time I looked we were living in a free country, after all :-) Beppe's departure is obviously a very emotive subject, if reacting with your heart...and in that respect I am sad to see him leave, because his passion and desire to do well with WFC was there for all to see. But rather than focus on reacting to the news of Beppe's departure with my heart, I think purely from my point of view, that it would far more advisable to react to this news with my head. Because the best interests of Watford FC both off the pitch and especially on it, is by a country mile the most important factor in all of this...and anyone who disagrees with that thought is no Watford fan in my eyes! :-) So with that in mind, I have to say that Beppe's resignation comes as no surprise to me whatsoever, for a number of reasons, as follows.... 1. The nigh on constant ill-discipline: Since Beppe has been in charge, I shudder to think how many players we've had sent off. This for me is 100% indicative of a lack of respect towards the head coach. I mean how many players did we have sent off for us under Zola, compared to under Beppe? That's like comparing chalk and cheese. And the reason that scarcely anyone was sent off under Zola, for me at least, was because GFZ being the legend he is, meant that he instantly had the respect of all players. Beppe doesn't have the same standing in the game as GFZ...and the signs of this ill-discipline were there for all to say, during that horrendous last few games after the Ipswich home win, at the tail end of last season. I was quite surprised that we didn't have a new head coach at the start of this season, given that shocking ending to last season, allied to the fact that Beppe was only originally brought in to the end of last season, IIRC. Tamas's ridiculous hack on the Huddersfield player yesterday, after this player had taken the ball out of play for a Watford throw in no less, was yet another sign for me, that there was no end in sight to our horrendous disciplinary record under Beppe. We are SO **** lucky that we've had such an easy start to this season, bar Norwich away. Can you imagine if we'd played say Forest, Wolves and Cardiff, instead of Bolton (truly appalling), Rotherham (going to finish mid-table at best...more on that win in point #2 below) and Beeston United (run by a wannabe dictator, with the about to be sacked Dave Hockawho? in charge...a team that mustered precisely ZERO efforts on our goal for the whole 90 minutes)? Thank the footballing gods that hasn't been the case, because if we had played them lot instead and been short-handed in any of those games, we would be a million miles away from second place right now, in the embryonic Championship table, no doubt about it. 2. Beppe's tactics / subs: Sorry but I had to chuckle to myself when I saw a comment on here about the Hoban sub being a good one yesterday...simply because Tommie should never have been on the bench in the first place! He's played superbly during yet another Ekstrand 3 game ban and while Tamas took up the mantle from Joel yesterday of "a red card waiting to happen", I couldn't believe Tommie had been dropped after some truly stand-out performances. He was nothing short of exceptional away to Rotherham (one of very few that night!), for example. While Joel's latest red wasn't as clear cut as those from last season, put yourself in Tommie's shoes...I've just played really well while covering for a guy who is serving YET ANOTHER ban for getting sent off and then he walks straight back in to the team, in spite of me playing so well in his enforced absence? I would have been majorly pi**ed off if, I had been in Tommie's position, when the teams were announced yesterday So to Rotherham away and some crystal clear issues with Beppe's tactics AND his (very delayed) substitutions...afte r that game I was boring many Hornet amigos by telling them that we won that game "despite our Head Coach". Why? Because while we ended running out comfortable winners that night, a more clinical team than Rotherham would have annihilated us if we'd played like that against them, for the first 65 minutes or so. The 4-4-2 was blatantly not working in the first half and Fabbrini was once again constantly running into dead ends... ...and while he was fouled a fair bit and the ref didn't afford him much / any protection, he did spend a significant amount of time on the ground, when minimal or possibly even no contact was made...much like last season therefore. A dynamic manager / Head Coach would have made a sub at half time...that game was crying out for Dyer to come on for the frustrating Fabbrini, but not Beppe that night, instead he stood by and watched an even worse first 15 minutes to the 2nd half (how it could have got worse than the first 45 I have no idea, but it **** well did!), where we lucky not to have a man sent off (Angella I think it was) when he brought down a Rotherham striker on the edge of the box (there must have been a covering defender, thank heavens). Only when Matty V got a dead leg on 60 minutes did he make the first sub, bringing Ighalo on (and look at the difference he made)...then finally about 5 minutes later, the substitution that SHOULD have happened at HT, did happen... ...shock horror Ighalo assists Dyer for one of the most undeserved opening goals of a game to Watford, that I can remember in many a year. Lloyd Dyer had been at Leicester for 6 years and turned down the chance to play Prem footy, to come and get regular first team footy for us. He'd scored at Stevenage, made a difference (as much as was possible, given we were down to 10 men after 120 seconds) at Norwich, but still hadn't been given a starting spot. He'd then sat and watched another hugely frustrating performance from Fabbrini, a 4-4-2 that wasn't working and an anaemic lack of subs despite all of this by Beppe, so I wasn't surprised he went so ballistic after scoring, at least he was showing some much needed passion, something that had been totally lacing from our insipid performance up until that point! 3. "Fine margins": We all know how agonisingly close we came to automatic promotion the season before last (**** u Paddy Kenny for making that great save to stop us taking the lead, just before Beeston's last minute winner in the final game of that season) If Beppe had stayed on, the major issues I've outlined in points 1 and 2 above, would more than likely have cost us a fair few points (due to a sending off or employing Rotherham tactics away to Forest, for example). And having seen how close we came previously, it is 200% imperative that we do NOT let that happen again, this time around. Finally, if you add-in the old cliché "there's no smoke without fire", there have clearly been some fairly major disconnects going on behind the scenes. As fans we will never know the full story, but whatever was going on, the one factor that I can't get away from in all of this, is that the respect had gone between the players and Beppe. It's very easy to start apportioning blame at this point, but I come back to the "fine margins" point...so rather than start a pointless mud slinging contest, the only result of which will more than likely be "causing major damage to our team's promotion chances this season", what we as fans need to do is dead simple... 1. Thank Beppe for his time with us and wish him all the best for the future 2.Keep creating superb atmospheres like we did late on yesterday (and not have to get Daniel T and Gabrielle A to rouse us to do so!) and hopefully claim another assist for a goal in the process :-) 3. Know that the Pozzos have nothing but the best interests of Watford FC at the forefront of their minds, at all times (hello everyone new East Stand is almost here!!) 4. Get 1000% behind the new Manager / Head Coach and roar the lads on home and away, to promotion hopefully! Mr Galli's tweet and "Still a Fortress" photo speaks volumes for me...how's about getting Zola back with Fillipo as his assistant? Bring on the "new dawn" and COYH!!! :-)
GREAT post. You've calmly summed up a few facts amidst all the histrionics on here.
Thanks Bush Hornet!!

I wanted to reply immediately, but it would have been an incoherent rant, if I'd done that!

I still said in a few thousand words, what probably could have been said in many less (well known for doing that, LOL!) but there was a lot of ground that needed covering, that's my excuse, haha :-)

Cheers

MB - Leeds 'Orn (it's very "fun" living and working up 'ere!)
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mbwfc1976[/bold] wrote: What follows is 100% how I view this (mega War n Peace post alert!)....if people like my thoughts that's great and no worries if they don't like them, last time I looked we were living in a free country, after all :-) Beppe's departure is obviously a very emotive subject, if reacting with your heart...and in that respect I am sad to see him leave, because his passion and desire to do well with WFC was there for all to see. But rather than focus on reacting to the news of Beppe's departure with my heart, I think purely from my point of view, that it would far more advisable to react to this news with my head. Because the best interests of Watford FC both off the pitch and especially on it, is by a country mile the most important factor in all of this...and anyone who disagrees with that thought is no Watford fan in my eyes! :-) So with that in mind, I have to say that Beppe's resignation comes as no surprise to me whatsoever, for a number of reasons, as follows.... 1. The nigh on constant ill-discipline: Since Beppe has been in charge, I shudder to think how many players we've had sent off. This for me is 100% indicative of a lack of respect towards the head coach. I mean how many players did we have sent off for us under Zola, compared to under Beppe? That's like comparing chalk and cheese. And the reason that scarcely anyone was sent off under Zola, for me at least, was because GFZ being the legend he is, meant that he instantly had the respect of all players. Beppe doesn't have the same standing in the game as GFZ...and the signs of this ill-discipline were there for all to say, during that horrendous last few games after the Ipswich home win, at the tail end of last season. I was quite surprised that we didn't have a new head coach at the start of this season, given that shocking ending to last season, allied to the fact that Beppe was only originally brought in to the end of last season, IIRC. Tamas's ridiculous hack on the Huddersfield player yesterday, after this player had taken the ball out of play for a Watford throw in no less, was yet another sign for me, that there was no end in sight to our horrendous disciplinary record under Beppe. We are SO **** lucky that we've had such an easy start to this season, bar Norwich away. Can you imagine if we'd played say Forest, Wolves and Cardiff, instead of Bolton (truly appalling), Rotherham (going to finish mid-table at best...more on that win in point #2 below) and Beeston United (run by a wannabe dictator, with the about to be sacked Dave Hockawho? in charge...a team that mustered precisely ZERO efforts on our goal for the whole 90 minutes)? Thank the footballing gods that hasn't been the case, because if we had played them lot instead and been short-handed in any of those games, we would be a million miles away from second place right now, in the embryonic Championship table, no doubt about it. 2. Beppe's tactics / subs: Sorry but I had to chuckle to myself when I saw a comment on here about the Hoban sub being a good one yesterday...simply because Tommie should never have been on the bench in the first place! He's played superbly during yet another Ekstrand 3 game ban and while Tamas took up the mantle from Joel yesterday of "a red card waiting to happen", I couldn't believe Tommie had been dropped after some truly stand-out performances. He was nothing short of exceptional away to Rotherham (one of very few that night!), for example. While Joel's latest red wasn't as clear cut as those from last season, put yourself in Tommie's shoes...I've just played really well while covering for a guy who is serving YET ANOTHER ban for getting sent off and then he walks straight back in to the team, in spite of me playing so well in his enforced absence? I would have been majorly pi**ed off if, I had been in Tommie's position, when the teams were announced yesterday So to Rotherham away and some crystal clear issues with Beppe's tactics AND his (very delayed) substitutions...afte r that game I was boring many Hornet amigos by telling them that we won that game "despite our Head Coach". Why? Because while we ended running out comfortable winners that night, a more clinical team than Rotherham would have annihilated us if we'd played like that against them, for the first 65 minutes or so. The 4-4-2 was blatantly not working in the first half and Fabbrini was once again constantly running into dead ends... ...and while he was fouled a fair bit and the ref didn't afford him much / any protection, he did spend a significant amount of time on the ground, when minimal or possibly even no contact was made...much like last season therefore. A dynamic manager / Head Coach would have made a sub at half time...that game was crying out for Dyer to come on for the frustrating Fabbrini, but not Beppe that night, instead he stood by and watched an even worse first 15 minutes to the 2nd half (how it could have got worse than the first 45 I have no idea, but it **** well did!), where we lucky not to have a man sent off (Angella I think it was) when he brought down a Rotherham striker on the edge of the box (there must have been a covering defender, thank heavens). Only when Matty V got a dead leg on 60 minutes did he make the first sub, bringing Ighalo on (and look at the difference he made)...then finally about 5 minutes later, the substitution that SHOULD have happened at HT, did happen... ...shock horror Ighalo assists Dyer for one of the most undeserved opening goals of a game to Watford, that I can remember in many a year. Lloyd Dyer had been at Leicester for 6 years and turned down the chance to play Prem footy, to come and get regular first team footy for us. He'd scored at Stevenage, made a difference (as much as was possible, given we were down to 10 men after 120 seconds) at Norwich, but still hadn't been given a starting spot. He'd then sat and watched another hugely frustrating performance from Fabbrini, a 4-4-2 that wasn't working and an anaemic lack of subs despite all of this by Beppe, so I wasn't surprised he went so ballistic after scoring, at least he was showing some much needed passion, something that had been totally lacing from our insipid performance up until that point! 3. "Fine margins": We all know how agonisingly close we came to automatic promotion the season before last (**** u Paddy Kenny for making that great save to stop us taking the lead, just before Beeston's last minute winner in the final game of that season) If Beppe had stayed on, the major issues I've outlined in points 1 and 2 above, would more than likely have cost us a fair few points (due to a sending off or employing Rotherham tactics away to Forest, for example). And having seen how close we came previously, it is 200% imperative that we do NOT let that happen again, this time around. Finally, if you add-in the old cliché "there's no smoke without fire", there have clearly been some fairly major disconnects going on behind the scenes. As fans we will never know the full story, but whatever was going on, the one factor that I can't get away from in all of this, is that the respect had gone between the players and Beppe. It's very easy to start apportioning blame at this point, but I come back to the "fine margins" point...so rather than start a pointless mud slinging contest, the only result of which will more than likely be "causing major damage to our team's promotion chances this season", what we as fans need to do is dead simple... 1. Thank Beppe for his time with us and wish him all the best for the future 2.Keep creating superb atmospheres like we did late on yesterday (and not have to get Daniel T and Gabrielle A to rouse us to do so!) and hopefully claim another assist for a goal in the process :-) 3. Know that the Pozzos have nothing but the best interests of Watford FC at the forefront of their minds, at all times (hello everyone new East Stand is almost here!!) 4. Get 1000% behind the new Manager / Head Coach and roar the lads on home and away, to promotion hopefully! Mr Galli's tweet and "Still a Fortress" photo speaks volumes for me...how's about getting Zola back with Fillipo as his assistant? Bring on the "new dawn" and COYH!!! :-)[/p][/quote]GREAT post. You've calmly summed up a few facts amidst all the histrionics on here.[/p][/quote]Thanks Bush Hornet!! I wanted to reply immediately, but it would have been an incoherent rant, if I'd done that! I still said in a few thousand words, what probably could have been said in many less (well known for doing that, LOL!) but there was a lot of ground that needed covering, that's my excuse, haha :-) Cheers MB - Leeds 'Orn (it's very "fun" living and working up 'ere!) mbwfc1976
  • Score: 0

7:58am Mon 1 Sep 14

Billie says...

Not Tony Pulis please
Not Tony Pulis please Billie
  • Score: -2

8:08am Mon 1 Sep 14

watfordkev says...

Like many I heard all kinds of rumours leading up to this, so to that degree it's not a surprise.

However... given the fact we won 4 out of 5 League games, the 6th away to a top side including a dismissal in the 3rd minute, I would like to see the club explain to the fans exactly why Sannino was removed . (I know it won't happen of course!)

From what I do know - the evidence of my own eyes at the matches - I thank Sannino for getting stability into the side last season and giving us such a great start this term. I wish him well, and feel he has been treated badly!
Like many I heard all kinds of rumours leading up to this, so to that degree it's not a surprise. However... given the fact we won 4 out of 5 League games, the 6th away to a top side including a dismissal in the 3rd minute, I would like to see the club explain to the fans exactly why Sannino was removed . (I know it won't happen of course!) From what I do know - the evidence of my own eyes at the matches - I thank Sannino for getting stability into the side last season and giving us such a great start this term. I wish him well, and feel he has been treated badly! watfordkev
  • Score: 3

8:56am Mon 1 Sep 14

davidhornet says...

OK so he has gone. Frank Smith was right and the low life who said he would go and bayed for his blood were right. What is not right is that we should celebrate the positives at this club. For those who cannot enjoy watching Watford I feel pity. We do not have Bonser, Jack Petchey or Bassini as owner. We are playing some of the best and most entertaining football ever seen at the Vic and Sannino has left us 2nd in the table. What sad lives buckler, lutondown and others lead whether they are real Watford fans or Luton supporting trolls. Those who celebrate failure in others should look themselves in the mirror and ask why.
OK so he has gone. Frank Smith was right and the low life who said he would go and bayed for his blood were right. What is not right is that we should celebrate the positives at this club. For those who cannot enjoy watching Watford I feel pity. We do not have Bonser, Jack Petchey or Bassini as owner. We are playing some of the best and most entertaining football ever seen at the Vic and Sannino has left us 2nd in the table. What sad lives buckler, lutondown and others lead whether they are real Watford fans or Luton supporting trolls. Those who celebrate failure in others should look themselves in the mirror and ask why. davidhornet
  • Score: 4

9:19am Mon 1 Sep 14

longcliffe says...

I hope it's not Lloyd Dyer's fault that Sannino has resigned from your tinpot club.
I hope it's not Lloyd Dyer's fault that Sannino has resigned from your tinpot club. longcliffe
  • Score: -4

9:25am Mon 1 Sep 14

one lars melvang says...

londomollari wrote:
buckler wrote:
londomollari wrote:
buckler wrote:
I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.
You've become a happy clapper?
If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is.
Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?
Spanish I'm told ..
M'mmmm. Yes. I believe Oscar Garcia was at the match yesterday with, I understand, Nigel Gibbs (Or were they just sitting close to each other by pure coincidence?). Don't like the Galli rumours. Like the guy, but where is the british managerial experience we need?
Nigel Gibbs has been at all our home games this season. He was not sitting with Garcia. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank was also watching from the directors box on Saturday .
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.[/p][/quote]You've become a happy clapper? If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is. Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?[/p][/quote]Spanish I'm told ..[/p][/quote]M'mmmm. Yes. I believe Oscar Garcia was at the match yesterday with, I understand, Nigel Gibbs (Or were they just sitting close to each other by pure coincidence?). Don't like the Galli rumours. Like the guy, but where is the british managerial experience we need?[/p][/quote]Nigel Gibbs has been at all our home games this season. He was not sitting with Garcia. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank was also watching from the directors box on Saturday . one lars melvang
  • Score: -1

9:25am Mon 1 Sep 14

UHORNS1 says...

I agree the timing is not great and we may be 2nd in the league but for me Sannino was/could not get the best out of this very talented squad.
We should be dominating play with the players at our disposal but if you look through the stats that did not happen very often in Sannino’s tenure where he would concede possession of the ball to the opposition far too easily good sides tend to punish you if you let this happen.
Having said that I wish him well for the future and hope that the next incumbent makes the most of the talent at his disposal.
I agree the timing is not great and we may be 2nd in the league but for me Sannino was/could not get the best out of this very talented squad. We should be dominating play with the players at our disposal but if you look through the stats that did not happen very often in Sannino’s tenure where he would concede possession of the ball to the opposition far too easily good sides tend to punish you if you let this happen. Having said that I wish him well for the future and hope that the next incumbent makes the most of the talent at his disposal. UHORNS1
  • Score: 4

9:38am Mon 1 Sep 14

Stewbyhorn1 says...

longcliffe wrote:
I hope it's not Lloyd Dyer's fault that Sannino has resigned from your tinpot club.
Bellend!
[quote][p][bold]longcliffe[/bold] wrote: I hope it's not Lloyd Dyer's fault that Sannino has resigned from your tinpot club.[/p][/quote]Bellend! Stewbyhorn1
  • Score: 4

9:48am Mon 1 Sep 14

northofwatfordpete says...

UHORNS1 wrote:
I agree the timing is not great and we may be 2nd in the league but for me Sannino was/could not get the best out of this very talented squad.
We should be dominating play with the players at our disposal but if you look through the stats that did not happen very often in Sannino’s tenure where he would concede possession of the ball to the opposition far too easily good sides tend to punish you if you let this happen.
Having said that I wish him well for the future and hope that the next incumbent makes the most of the talent at his disposal.
Pretty much agree with UHORNS1 - I have been worried by our performances and a bit surprised by our results. Under Zola we played entertaining football and for a while bossed teams. Whoever the new manager is then I hope he will be able to get the best out of the squad and achieve some consistency.
[quote][p][bold]UHORNS1[/bold] wrote: I agree the timing is not great and we may be 2nd in the league but for me Sannino was/could not get the best out of this very talented squad. We should be dominating play with the players at our disposal but if you look through the stats that did not happen very often in Sannino’s tenure where he would concede possession of the ball to the opposition far too easily good sides tend to punish you if you let this happen. Having said that I wish him well for the future and hope that the next incumbent makes the most of the talent at his disposal.[/p][/quote]Pretty much agree with UHORNS1 - I have been worried by our performances and a bit surprised by our results. Under Zola we played entertaining football and for a while bossed teams. Whoever the new manager is then I hope he will be able to get the best out of the squad and achieve some consistency. northofwatfordpete
  • Score: 2

10:19am Mon 1 Sep 14

watfordkev says...

UHORNS1 wrote:
I agree the timing is not great and we may be 2nd in the league but for me Sannino was/could not get the best out of this very talented squad.
We should be dominating play with the players at our disposal but if you look through the stats that did not happen very often in Sannino’s tenure where he would concede possession of the ball to the opposition far too easily good sides tend to punish you if you let this happen.
Having said that I wish him well for the future and hope that the next incumbent makes the most of the talent at his disposal.
Er... not 'may be 2nd in the league' - ARE 2nd in the league! What other BS stats actually matter??
[quote][p][bold]UHORNS1[/bold] wrote: I agree the timing is not great and we may be 2nd in the league but for me Sannino was/could not get the best out of this very talented squad. We should be dominating play with the players at our disposal but if you look through the stats that did not happen very often in Sannino’s tenure where he would concede possession of the ball to the opposition far too easily good sides tend to punish you if you let this happen. Having said that I wish him well for the future and hope that the next incumbent makes the most of the talent at his disposal.[/p][/quote]Er... not 'may be 2nd in the league' - ARE 2nd in the league! What other BS stats actually matter?? watfordkev
  • Score: 1

11:43am Mon 1 Sep 14

loyalhemel says...

davidhornet wrote:
OK so he has gone. Frank Smith was right and the low life who said he would go and bayed for his blood were right. What is not right is that we should celebrate the positives at this club. For those who cannot enjoy watching Watford I feel pity. We do not have Bonser, Jack Petchey or Bassini as owner. We are playing some of the best and most entertaining football ever seen at the Vic and Sannino has left us 2nd in the table. What sad lives buckler, lutondown and others lead whether they are real Watford fans or Luton supporting trolls. Those who celebrate failure in others should look themselves in the mirror and ask why.
The only troll here is you.
Thank god you have school this week,now go & enjoy ruggers with mummy & daddy. clap clap
[quote][p][bold]davidhornet[/bold] wrote: OK so he has gone. Frank Smith was right and the low life who said he would go and bayed for his blood were right. What is not right is that we should celebrate the positives at this club. For those who cannot enjoy watching Watford I feel pity. We do not have Bonser, Jack Petchey or Bassini as owner. We are playing some of the best and most entertaining football ever seen at the Vic and Sannino has left us 2nd in the table. What sad lives buckler, lutondown and others lead whether they are real Watford fans or Luton supporting trolls. Those who celebrate failure in others should look themselves in the mirror and ask why.[/p][/quote]The only troll here is you. Thank god you have school this week,now go & enjoy ruggers with mummy & daddy. clap clap loyalhemel
  • Score: -3

12:18pm Mon 1 Sep 14

longcliffe says...

Stewbyhorn1 wrote:
longcliffe wrote: I hope it's not Lloyd Dyer's fault that Sannino has resigned from your tinpot club.
Bellend!
There's no need to cry!!!!

I am sure a partership of Hoofroyd/Wise and Bassett will come to your rescue.
[quote][p][bold]Stewbyhorn1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]longcliffe[/bold] wrote: I hope it's not Lloyd Dyer's fault that Sannino has resigned from your tinpot club.[/p][/quote]Bellend![/p][/quote]There's no need to cry!!!! I am sure a partership of Hoofroyd/Wise and Bassett will come to your rescue. longcliffe
  • Score: -1

12:21pm Mon 1 Sep 14

UHORNS1 says...

watfordkev wrote:
UHORNS1 wrote:
I agree the timing is not great and we may be 2nd in the league but for me Sannino was/could not get the best out of this very talented squad.
We should be dominating play with the players at our disposal but if you look through the stats that did not happen very often in Sannino’s tenure where he would concede possession of the ball to the opposition far too easily good sides tend to punish you if you let this happen.
Having said that I wish him well for the future and hope that the next incumbent makes the most of the talent at his disposal.
Er... not 'may be 2nd in the league' - ARE 2nd in the league! What other BS stats actually matter??
We are 2nd in the League after only 5 games and in only 1 of those games have we shared % possession in others we have let the opposition dominate and with this squad that should not be happening if you retain the ball then quite obviously your opponents can’t score.
You might not like to hear it but I am going to say it again with the tactics Sannino employed he would/could not get the best out of this squad that for me is the footballing reason for letting him go the others which are well documented on here are another matter which I will not comment on.
[quote][p][bold]watfordkev[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]UHORNS1[/bold] wrote: I agree the timing is not great and we may be 2nd in the league but for me Sannino was/could not get the best out of this very talented squad. We should be dominating play with the players at our disposal but if you look through the stats that did not happen very often in Sannino’s tenure where he would concede possession of the ball to the opposition far too easily good sides tend to punish you if you let this happen. Having said that I wish him well for the future and hope that the next incumbent makes the most of the talent at his disposal.[/p][/quote]Er... not 'may be 2nd in the league' - ARE 2nd in the league! What other BS stats actually matter??[/p][/quote]We are 2nd in the League after only 5 games and in only 1 of those games have we shared % possession in others we have let the opposition dominate and with this squad that should not be happening if you retain the ball then quite obviously your opponents can’t score. You might not like to hear it but I am going to say it again with the tactics Sannino employed he would/could not get the best out of this squad that for me is the footballing reason for letting him go the others which are well documented on here are another matter which I will not comment on. UHORNS1
  • Score: 1

2:11pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Cuthbert007 says...

one lars melvang wrote:
londomollari wrote:
buckler wrote:
londomollari wrote:
buckler wrote:
I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.
You've become a happy clapper?
If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is.
Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?
Spanish I'm told ..
M'mmmm. Yes. I believe Oscar Garcia was at the match yesterday with, I understand, Nigel Gibbs (Or were they just sitting close to each other by pure coincidence?). Don't like the Galli rumours. Like the guy, but where is the british managerial experience we need?
Nigel Gibbs has been at all our home games this season. He was not sitting with Garcia. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank was also watching from the directors box on Saturday .
Jimmy floyd would be good or if not Hughton or even Chris Powell could do a decent job.
[quote][p][bold]one lars melvang[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.[/p][/quote]You've become a happy clapper? If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is. Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?[/p][/quote]Spanish I'm told ..[/p][/quote]M'mmmm. Yes. I believe Oscar Garcia was at the match yesterday with, I understand, Nigel Gibbs (Or were they just sitting close to each other by pure coincidence?). Don't like the Galli rumours. Like the guy, but where is the british managerial experience we need?[/p][/quote]Nigel Gibbs has been at all our home games this season. He was not sitting with Garcia. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank was also watching from the directors box on Saturday .[/p][/quote]Jimmy floyd would be good or if not Hughton or even Chris Powell could do a decent job. Cuthbert007
  • Score: 0

2:11pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Cuthbert007 says...

one lars melvang wrote:
londomollari wrote:
buckler wrote:
londomollari wrote:
buckler wrote:
I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.
You've become a happy clapper?
If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is.
Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?
Spanish I'm told ..
M'mmmm. Yes. I believe Oscar Garcia was at the match yesterday with, I understand, Nigel Gibbs (Or were they just sitting close to each other by pure coincidence?). Don't like the Galli rumours. Like the guy, but where is the british managerial experience we need?
Nigel Gibbs has been at all our home games this season. He was not sitting with Garcia. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank was also watching from the directors box on Saturday .
Jimmy floyd would be good or if not Hughton or even Chris Powell could do a decent job.
[quote][p][bold]one lars melvang[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.[/p][/quote]You've become a happy clapper? If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is. Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?[/p][/quote]Spanish I'm told ..[/p][/quote]M'mmmm. Yes. I believe Oscar Garcia was at the match yesterday with, I understand, Nigel Gibbs (Or were they just sitting close to each other by pure coincidence?). Don't like the Galli rumours. Like the guy, but where is the british managerial experience we need?[/p][/quote]Nigel Gibbs has been at all our home games this season. He was not sitting with Garcia. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank was also watching from the directors box on Saturday .[/p][/quote]Jimmy floyd would be good or if not Hughton or even Chris Powell could do a decent job. Cuthbert007
  • Score: 1

2:14pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Cuthbert007 says...

one lars melvang wrote:
londomollari wrote:
buckler wrote:
londomollari wrote:
buckler wrote:
I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.
You've become a happy clapper?
If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is.
Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?
Spanish I'm told ..
M'mmmm. Yes. I believe Oscar Garcia was at the match yesterday with, I understand, Nigel Gibbs (Or were they just sitting close to each other by pure coincidence?). Don't like the Galli rumours. Like the guy, but where is the british managerial experience we need?
Nigel Gibbs has been at all our home games this season. He was not sitting with Garcia. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank was also watching from the directors box on Saturday .
Jimmy floyd would be good or if not Hughton or even Chris Powell could do a decent job.
[quote][p][bold]one lars melvang[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: I'm H A P P Y I'm H A P P Y ... Clap Clap.[/p][/quote]You've become a happy clapper? If I were you I would wait to see who the next manager is. Another Italian with little or no experience of managing in this league? Down the same road again?[/p][/quote]Spanish I'm told ..[/p][/quote]M'mmmm. Yes. I believe Oscar Garcia was at the match yesterday with, I understand, Nigel Gibbs (Or were they just sitting close to each other by pure coincidence?). Don't like the Galli rumours. Like the guy, but where is the british managerial experience we need?[/p][/quote]Nigel Gibbs has been at all our home games this season. He was not sitting with Garcia. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank was also watching from the directors box on Saturday .[/p][/quote]Jimmy floyd would be good or if not Hughton or even Chris Powell could do a decent job. Cuthbert007
  • Score: 1

8:48pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Keepyourmindfree says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Beppe's been forced out with us in 2nd position. Whoever takes over will do well to get us into a better position. Then what will all the Beppe-out people say? To say that I am disappointed is an understatement.
Poem please HC.
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Beppe's been forced out with us in 2nd position. Whoever takes over will do well to get us into a better position. Then what will all the Beppe-out people say? To say that I am disappointed is an understatement.[/p][/quote]Poem please HC. Keepyourmindfree
  • Score: 0

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