Watford target three more signings - a goalkeeper, defensive midfielder and attacking midfielder

Watford Observer: Watford target three more signings Watford target three more signings

The pending arrival of Juan Carlos Paredes and Daniel Tozser’s signing means the Hornets are now only targeting three more positions, the Watford Observer understands.

Tozser joined the Golden Boys on a two-year loan deal on Monday and we understand Ecuador’s World Cup right-back Paredes has agreed terms on his move to Vicarage Road.

Watford have already signed six players and when Paredes becomes seven that will be all the previously identified transfer targets secured.

We understand Watford are now keen to add three cover players; a reserve goalkeeper, another holding midfielder and a centre midfielder.

The Hornets want to land a substitute goalkeeper after Gary Woods left the club and this would enable Jonathan Bond to find game time out on loan.

They want an attack-minded midfield player and with Tozser the club’s only recognised defensive midfielder towards the end of last season, the club are also seeking another option in that role.

Watford were keen to sign Tozser permanently but eventually settled on a two-year loan agreement with new parent club Parma.

The Hungary international was out of favour at Genoa but the Serie A club were unable to agree terms with the Golden Boys.

The Pozzo family, who own Watford, are also in charge of Udinese and with Parma keen on one of their players, it appears Gino Pozzo reached an agreement with Parma to sign Tozser from Genoa and then immediately loan the player back to the Hornets as part of those negotiations.

Watford confirmed they have the option to activate a third year with Tozser once his two-year agreement with Parma expires.

The Hornets have also been confident of securing Paredes’ signature for more than a month and we understand a move has now been agreed.

Paredes failed to report to training for Barcelona Sporting Club on Monday and the Ecuadorian club’s president Francisco Hidalgo confirmed the player was likely to be fined.

The Hornets were keen to sign the full-back permanently but his agent, Danny Walker, has suggested the player could join Granada in a five-year deal before a loan switch to Watford.

Walker also denied claims the player had failed to attend training, stating he had the permission of the club.

Paredes, who turned 27 this week, played every minute of his country’s World Cup campaign, as they finished third in Group E.

The player, who can play across the backline, has spent the whole of his career in his native country, also featuring for Rocafuerte, Deportivo Cuenca and Deportivo Quito, where he won the league title in 2011.

Udinese were keen on signing the player for more than six months and he reportedly attracted interest from clubs around Europe prior to the World Cup.

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7:03am Fri 11 Jul 14

jimbowfc says...

Does Paredes speak English?
Does Paredes speak English? jimbowfc
  • Score: -13

7:41am Fri 11 Jul 14

hertshornet says...

Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.
Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese. hertshornet
  • Score: 10

7:45am Fri 11 Jul 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

It's highly encouraging that we've been so pro-active in the transfer market. It's always good news to hear we're so close to completing our targeted transfers nearly a month before the start of the season.

We already look like we have a really strong squad, especially if we can hold on to Deeney, and a third goalie and the backup holding midfielder were two of the only additional acquisitions I'd make.

My only concern, literally my only tiny concern, is whether we have a backup left back to cover for Pudil? I'm not entirely convinced Dyer is a defender, even if I think he's a good signing if we can successfully integrate him into our team.

Does anyone know whether this upcoming Doherty player is a left back? Or would the intention be to play Doyley there maybe?
It's highly encouraging that we've been so pro-active in the transfer market. It's always good news to hear we're so close to completing our targeted transfers nearly a month before the start of the season. We already look like we have a really strong squad, especially if we can hold on to Deeney, and a third goalie and the backup holding midfielder were two of the only additional acquisitions I'd make. My only concern, literally my only tiny concern, is whether we have a backup left back to cover for Pudil? I'm not entirely convinced Dyer is a defender, even if I think he's a good signing if we can successfully integrate him into our team. Does anyone know whether this upcoming Doherty player is a left back? Or would the intention be to play Doyley there maybe? The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 14

7:45am Fri 11 Jul 14

watford1881 says...

How about Colombian Alexander Mejia any news about his possible loan from Udinese...
How about Colombian Alexander Mejia any news about his possible loan from Udinese... watford1881
  • Score: 15

7:55am Fri 11 Jul 14

GrahamTaylor says...

watford1881 wrote:
How about Colombian Alexander Mejia any news about his possible loan from Udinese...
Told this is a done deal
[quote][p][bold]watford1881[/bold] wrote: How about Colombian Alexander Mejia any news about his possible loan from Udinese...[/p][/quote]Told this is a done deal GrahamTaylor
  • Score: 12

8:08am Fri 11 Jul 14

mkhornet says...

My only concern is how will we keep all of these players happy, excessive squad rotation has been shown not to work and it was proved last season that the clubs that used the least players and kept a settled side did best (ie. Leicester and Burnley).
My only concern is how will we keep all of these players happy, excessive squad rotation has been shown not to work and it was proved last season that the clubs that used the least players and kept a settled side did best (ie. Leicester and Burnley). mkhornet
  • Score: 38

8:23am Fri 11 Jul 14

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny says...

The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
It's highly encouraging that we've been so pro-active in the transfer market. It's always good news to hear we're so close to completing our targeted transfers nearly a month before the start of the season.

We already look like we have a really strong squad, especially if we can hold on to Deeney, and a third goalie and the backup holding midfielder were two of the only additional acquisitions I'd make.

My only concern, literally my only tiny concern, is whether we have a backup left back to cover for Pudil? I'm not entirely convinced Dyer is a defender, even if I think he's a good signing if we can successfully integrate him into our team.

Does anyone know whether this upcoming Doherty player is a left back? Or would the intention be to play Doyley there maybe?
Doherty is a left back, nice to see the youngsters still progressing, I would hate to see us sign a back up left back at the expense of his development. Remember lloydinho can play there too if needed anyway.
[quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: It's highly encouraging that we've been so pro-active in the transfer market. It's always good news to hear we're so close to completing our targeted transfers nearly a month before the start of the season. We already look like we have a really strong squad, especially if we can hold on to Deeney, and a third goalie and the backup holding midfielder were two of the only additional acquisitions I'd make. My only concern, literally my only tiny concern, is whether we have a backup left back to cover for Pudil? I'm not entirely convinced Dyer is a defender, even if I think he's a good signing if we can successfully integrate him into our team. Does anyone know whether this upcoming Doherty player is a left back? Or would the intention be to play Doyley there maybe?[/p][/quote]Doherty is a left back, nice to see the youngsters still progressing, I would hate to see us sign a back up left back at the expense of his development. Remember lloydinho can play there too if needed anyway. Ronny oh Ronny Ronny
  • Score: 11

8:24am Fri 11 Jul 14

not a regular says...

hertshornet wrote:
Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.
Arsenal paid £30m, Barcelona paid E35m (about £30). So I doubt there's a sell on fee, plus given that Barcelona aren't a selling club you'd want all the money up front.

On the squad? I feel we have too many central defenders (five would suffice) and need one defensive midfielder for when we play 4 at the back, allowing the full backs to push up. A left back would be great but Doyley can deputise and Pudil, touch wood, seems to get FITTER as the match goes on!
[quote][p][bold]hertshornet[/bold] wrote: Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.[/p][/quote]Arsenal paid £30m, Barcelona paid E35m (about £30). So I doubt there's a sell on fee, plus given that Barcelona aren't a selling club you'd want all the money up front. On the squad? I feel we have too many central defenders (five would suffice) and need one defensive midfielder for when we play 4 at the back, allowing the full backs to push up. A left back would be great but Doyley can deputise and Pudil, touch wood, seems to get FITTER as the match goes on! not a regular
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8:29am Fri 11 Jul 14

DCB1 says...

mkhornet wrote:
My only concern is how will we keep all of these players happy, excessive squad rotation has been shown not to work and it was proved last season that the clubs that used the least players and kept a settled side did best (ie. Leicester and Burnley).
Agreed. Hopefully if there is to be rotation we will keep a core of regular starters - Gomes, Angella, Toszer, Abdi, Deeney and Vydra. Doesn't leave a lot of starting spaces for the other squad members though...

Be interesting to see how Sanino manages the squad and if we can get past the constant niggly injuries that seemed to keep four or five players out of each game. Let's hope the squad is as good on the pitch as it looks on paper!
[quote][p][bold]mkhornet[/bold] wrote: My only concern is how will we keep all of these players happy, excessive squad rotation has been shown not to work and it was proved last season that the clubs that used the least players and kept a settled side did best (ie. Leicester and Burnley).[/p][/quote]Agreed. Hopefully if there is to be rotation we will keep a core of regular starters - Gomes, Angella, Toszer, Abdi, Deeney and Vydra. Doesn't leave a lot of starting spaces for the other squad members though... Be interesting to see how Sanino manages the squad and if we can get past the constant niggly injuries that seemed to keep four or five players out of each game. Let's hope the squad is as good on the pitch as it looks on paper! DCB1
  • Score: 19

8:58am Fri 11 Jul 14

Harry's Bar says...

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny wrote:
The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
It's highly encouraging that we've been so pro-active in the transfer market. It's always good news to hear we're so close to completing our targeted transfers nearly a month before the start of the season.

We already look like we have a really strong squad, especially if we can hold on to Deeney, and a third goalie and the backup holding midfielder were two of the only additional acquisitions I'd make.

My only concern, literally my only tiny concern, is whether we have a backup left back to cover for Pudil? I'm not entirely convinced Dyer is a defender, even if I think he's a good signing if we can successfully integrate him into our team.

Does anyone know whether this upcoming Doherty player is a left back? Or would the intention be to play Doyley there maybe?
Doherty is a left back, nice to see the youngsters still progressing, I would hate to see us sign a back up left back at the expense of his development. Remember lloydinho can play there too if needed anyway.
Left sided defender has been a problem position for a while. They must really rate Josh Doherty because although others can fill in it's only really him and Pudil who would call it their position.
[quote][p][bold]Ronny oh Ronny Ronny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: It's highly encouraging that we've been so pro-active in the transfer market. It's always good news to hear we're so close to completing our targeted transfers nearly a month before the start of the season. We already look like we have a really strong squad, especially if we can hold on to Deeney, and a third goalie and the backup holding midfielder were two of the only additional acquisitions I'd make. My only concern, literally my only tiny concern, is whether we have a backup left back to cover for Pudil? I'm not entirely convinced Dyer is a defender, even if I think he's a good signing if we can successfully integrate him into our team. Does anyone know whether this upcoming Doherty player is a left back? Or would the intention be to play Doyley there maybe?[/p][/quote]Doherty is a left back, nice to see the youngsters still progressing, I would hate to see us sign a back up left back at the expense of his development. Remember lloydinho can play there too if needed anyway.[/p][/quote]Left sided defender has been a problem position for a while. They must really rate Josh Doherty because although others can fill in it's only really him and Pudil who would call it their position. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 9

9:30am Fri 11 Jul 14

WessexLad says...

not a regular wrote:
hertshornet wrote:
Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.
Arsenal paid £30m, Barcelona paid E35m (about £30). So I doubt there's a sell on fee, plus given that Barcelona aren't a selling club you'd want all the money up front.

On the squad? I feel we have too many central defenders (five would suffice) and need one defensive midfielder for when we play 4 at the back, allowing the full backs to push up. A left back would be great but Doyley can deputise and Pudil, touch wood, seems to get FITTER as the match goes on!
"Why do you play a right-footed player at left back?"

Aidy Boothroyd: "So that when he turns inside, he's got the whole field to aim at!"
[quote][p][bold]not a regular[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertshornet[/bold] wrote: Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.[/p][/quote]Arsenal paid £30m, Barcelona paid E35m (about £30). So I doubt there's a sell on fee, plus given that Barcelona aren't a selling club you'd want all the money up front. On the squad? I feel we have too many central defenders (five would suffice) and need one defensive midfielder for when we play 4 at the back, allowing the full backs to push up. A left back would be great but Doyley can deputise and Pudil, touch wood, seems to get FITTER as the match goes on![/p][/quote]"Why do you play a right-footed player at left back?" Aidy Boothroyd: "So that when he turns inside, he's got the whole field to aim at!" WessexLad
  • Score: 11

9:33am Fri 11 Jul 14

JohnnyBarnes says...

I agree with what seems to be the general consensus:
The Pozzos' continue to demonstrate just how serious they are about us and about getting us up. The players we're signing are absolutely top drawer for this level
but
I have a niggling worry about how we're (a) going to keep all of these guys happy, and (b) how consistent the team is likely to be if it's regularly rotated

History proves that the teams who go up play the same side nearly every week. I hope we do similar.
I agree with what seems to be the general consensus: The Pozzos' continue to demonstrate just how serious they are about us and about getting us up. The players we're signing are absolutely top drawer for this level but I have a niggling worry about how we're (a) going to keep all of these guys happy, and (b) how consistent the team is likely to be if it's regularly rotated History proves that the teams who go up play the same side nearly every week. I hope we do similar. JohnnyBarnes
  • Score: 13

9:56am Fri 11 Jul 14

Goldentrue1 says...

Maybe we should try and get Diakte as the other defensive midfield player...
... i'll get my coat..
Maybe we should try and get Diakte as the other defensive midfield player... ... i'll get my coat.. Goldentrue1
  • Score: 15

10:15am Fri 11 Jul 14

mellow yellow says...

JohnnyBarnes wrote:
I agree with what seems to be the general consensus:
The Pozzos' continue to demonstrate just how serious they are about us and about getting us up. The players we're signing are absolutely top drawer for this level
but
I have a niggling worry about how we're (a) going to keep all of these guys happy, and (b) how consistent the team is likely to be if it's regularly rotated

History proves that the teams who go up play the same side nearly every week. I hope we do similar.
I don't think this necessarily means excessive squad rotation, more that we can successfully change formations during a game, and utilising subs. As we found to our cost last season, players can get injured for long periods of time... This squad seems to minimise risk. As for keeping players happy, they are pros and should be able to wait for their chance, and be hungrier when it arrives. I'm sure recent acquisitions would have been made aware of that. However, I will be disappointed if this does indeed signal a return to rotation for rotations sake. We will see, but to have a settled squad for a whole month pre-season is a serious blessing. Come on...!
[quote][p][bold]JohnnyBarnes[/bold] wrote: I agree with what seems to be the general consensus: The Pozzos' continue to demonstrate just how serious they are about us and about getting us up. The players we're signing are absolutely top drawer for this level but I have a niggling worry about how we're (a) going to keep all of these guys happy, and (b) how consistent the team is likely to be if it's regularly rotated History proves that the teams who go up play the same side nearly every week. I hope we do similar.[/p][/quote]I don't think this necessarily means excessive squad rotation, more that we can successfully change formations during a game, and utilising subs. As we found to our cost last season, players can get injured for long periods of time... This squad seems to minimise risk. As for keeping players happy, they are pros and should be able to wait for their chance, and be hungrier when it arrives. I'm sure recent acquisitions would have been made aware of that. However, I will be disappointed if this does indeed signal a return to rotation for rotations sake. We will see, but to have a settled squad for a whole month pre-season is a serious blessing. Come on...! mellow yellow
  • Score: 8

10:30am Fri 11 Jul 14

lockerbiehornet says...

not a regular wrote:
hertshornet wrote:
Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.
Arsenal paid £30m, Barcelona paid E35m (about £30). So I doubt there's a sell on fee, plus given that Barcelona aren't a selling club you'd want all the money up front.

On the squad? I feel we have too many central defenders (five would suffice) and need one defensive midfielder for when we play 4 at the back, allowing the full backs to push up. A left back would be great but Doyley can deputise and Pudil, touch wood, seems to get FITTER as the match goes on!
I don't think a transfer fee has to show profit from the original price to activate a sell on fee so hopefully they'll get something
[quote][p][bold]not a regular[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertshornet[/bold] wrote: Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.[/p][/quote]Arsenal paid £30m, Barcelona paid E35m (about £30). So I doubt there's a sell on fee, plus given that Barcelona aren't a selling club you'd want all the money up front. On the squad? I feel we have too many central defenders (five would suffice) and need one defensive midfielder for when we play 4 at the back, allowing the full backs to push up. A left back would be great but Doyley can deputise and Pudil, touch wood, seems to get FITTER as the match goes on![/p][/quote]I don't think a transfer fee has to show profit from the original price to activate a sell on fee so hopefully they'll get something lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 0

10:33am Fri 11 Jul 14

londomollari says...

I was one of the first to criticise squad rotation under Zola---it cost promotion. Perhaps, in the long run, that may be a blessing, as I think this squad is now, potentially, far stronger. The problem with rotation under Zola was the scale of player change---five or six changes at once was never going to work---and the players brought in were not up to the standard of those dropped. Should Beppe rotate a couple of players (no more!), with the current standard of back-up players, I wouldn't have a problem.
As far as I am concerned, Beppe starts this season with a clean slate. He now has the players, and he's saying the right words. I like him as a person, and I have the impression the players are behind him.
If the team is struggling in December, however, I think the Pozzo's will look elsewhere.
See Cowie has gone to Wigan, and Burnley are now looking at Danny Graham.
I was one of the first to criticise squad rotation under Zola---it cost promotion. Perhaps, in the long run, that may be a blessing, as I think this squad is now, potentially, far stronger. The problem with rotation under Zola was the scale of player change---five or six changes at once was never going to work---and the players brought in were not up to the standard of those dropped. Should Beppe rotate a couple of players (no more!), with the current standard of back-up players, I wouldn't have a problem. As far as I am concerned, Beppe starts this season with a clean slate. He now has the players, and he's saying the right words. I like him as a person, and I have the impression the players are behind him. If the team is struggling in December, however, I think the Pozzo's will look elsewhere. See Cowie has gone to Wigan, and Burnley are now looking at Danny Graham. londomollari
  • Score: 15

10:38am Fri 11 Jul 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

Good article and good that the club are sharing their plans with the wobbly, understandably not mentioning target names.
Good article and good that the club are sharing their plans with the wobbly, understandably not mentioning target names. Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 5

10:45am Fri 11 Jul 14

soulfulhornet says...

3 more players sounds a lot so that's 10 in total (8 new, 2 returning). Is that too many new faces?

I see the logic of the goalkeeper so Bond can go on loan somewhere and get game time and experience. I see the logic of another defensive midfielder so there is cover for Tozser. Another midfielder on top, not sure about unless one of Murray, McGugan, or Battochio is on his way. I could see Murray out on loan, the other two would be permanent, methinks.

No mention of the striking department, does that mean that Troy is staying - unless we get an offer we cannot turn down ? OK, Ranegie could play that role, but he doesn't bully defences like Deeney does. and does not have the same on field leadership skills.

I am also a little concerned that we can keep all these players happy - Zola did it by his likeable personality, but that gets you only so far as October - December last term proved. Does Sannino command the same levels of respect ? Not sure.

Still looks like we will have one of the best, if not the best squad in the championship. Mind you I thought that in August last year and look what didn't happen.
3 more players sounds a lot so that's 10 in total (8 new, 2 returning). Is that too many new faces? I see the logic of the goalkeeper so Bond can go on loan somewhere and get game time and experience. I see the logic of another defensive midfielder so there is cover for Tozser. Another midfielder on top, not sure about unless one of Murray, McGugan, or Battochio is on his way. I could see Murray out on loan, the other two would be permanent, methinks. No mention of the striking department, does that mean that Troy is staying - unless we get an offer we cannot turn down ? OK, Ranegie could play that role, but he doesn't bully defences like Deeney does. and does not have the same on field leadership skills. I am also a little concerned that we can keep all these players happy - Zola did it by his likeable personality, but that gets you only so far as October - December last term proved. Does Sannino command the same levels of respect ? Not sure. Still looks like we will have one of the best, if not the best squad in the championship. Mind you I thought that in August last year and look what didn't happen. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 4

10:49am Fri 11 Jul 14

londomollari says...

Good articles in today's Observer---solid interview with Danny Toszer and a good comment from Frank Smith. Danny making a firm statement of how important Deeney is to the side---I am getting the impression that, unless someone comes in with silly money, Deeney is staying.
Good articles in today's Observer---solid interview with Danny Toszer and a good comment from Frank Smith. Danny making a firm statement of how important Deeney is to the side---I am getting the impression that, unless someone comes in with silly money, Deeney is staying. londomollari
  • Score: 19

10:56am Fri 11 Jul 14

Letsalldothecongaforbrittassombalonga says...

I'm going to weigh in here with my two cents worth as I am sure you are all dying to know my thoughts on the matter :)

1)We don't need to fret about the squad being too large. Like last year by the end of August 5-10 of the squad will be out on loan.

2)Deeney staying or going (like it or not) will have a huge impact on our season. We all know he brings more than just goals.

3)IF Troy goes we should re-sign Super Danny to soften the blow. You know he'd love to come back just to be re-crowned Ping-Pong king.

4) Either Tommy Smith (my hero) or Ambrossini should be signed up as back up and a bit of experience in the mid (a la' Sir John of Eustace)

5)East Stand complete by the Bournemouth game so Sky can show off our shiny, new, 4-sided stadium.

6)South-West corner work to begin and be completed by the beginning of the '15-'16 season AT THE LATEST.

7)Red and Yellow lion to either be converted to flats or turned into a decent pub for once.

8)A 'tutting' ban in the Rous ( or at least a 'tutting jar' to raise money for Charities)

9)Lloyd will hopefully get the all-time appearance record this season or the next!

10) Red shorts on special days

Thank you and goodnight
I'm going to weigh in here with my two cents worth as I am sure you are all dying to know my thoughts on the matter :) 1)We don't need to fret about the squad being too large. Like last year by the end of August 5-10 of the squad will be out on loan. 2)Deeney staying or going (like it or not) will have a huge impact on our season. We all know he brings more than just goals. 3)IF Troy goes we should re-sign Super Danny to soften the blow. You know he'd love to come back just to be re-crowned Ping-Pong king. 4) Either Tommy Smith (my hero) or Ambrossini should be signed up as back up and a bit of experience in the mid (a la' Sir John of Eustace) 5)East Stand complete by the Bournemouth game so Sky can show off our shiny, new, 4-sided stadium. 6)South-West corner work to begin and be completed by the beginning of the '15-'16 season AT THE LATEST. 7)Red and Yellow lion to either be converted to flats or turned into a decent pub for once. 8)A 'tutting' ban in the Rous ( or at least a 'tutting jar' to raise money for Charities) 9)Lloyd will hopefully get the all-time appearance record this season or the next! 10) Red shorts on special days Thank you and goodnight Letsalldothecongaforbrittassombalonga
  • Score: -6

11:36am Fri 11 Jul 14

bryan the hornet says...

Interesting that we are targeting 3 more players but not a striker. Sounds like Troy to stay at least until the next transfer window or offers for him are at least £8/9m. If the latter then I hope deal done sooner than later and not leaving it to the last minute for us to find a replacement. Mind you who would we get to replace a 20+ goals a season man? Let's hope no one raises the money and we get off to a great start to the season then Troy will be happy to stay with us and go up into the Prem by May next year
Interesting that we are targeting 3 more players but not a striker. Sounds like Troy to stay at least until the next transfer window or offers for him are at least £8/9m. If the latter then I hope deal done sooner than later and not leaving it to the last minute for us to find a replacement. Mind you who would we get to replace a 20+ goals a season man? Let's hope no one raises the money and we get off to a great start to the season then Troy will be happy to stay with us and go up into the Prem by May next year bryan the hornet
  • Score: 8

11:39am Fri 11 Jul 14

Harry's Bar says...

soulfulhornet wrote:
3 more players sounds a lot so that's 10 in total (8 new, 2 returning). Is that too many new faces?

I see the logic of the goalkeeper so Bond can go on loan somewhere and get game time and experience. I see the logic of another defensive midfielder so there is cover for Tozser. Another midfielder on top, not sure about unless one of Murray, McGugan, or Battochio is on his way. I could see Murray out on loan, the other two would be permanent, methinks.

No mention of the striking department, does that mean that Troy is staying - unless we get an offer we cannot turn down ? OK, Ranegie could play that role, but he doesn't bully defences like Deeney does. and does not have the same on field leadership skills.

I am also a little concerned that we can keep all these players happy - Zola did it by his likeable personality, but that gets you only so far as October - December last term proved. Does Sannino command the same levels of respect ? Not sure.

Still looks like we will have one of the best, if not the best squad in the championship. Mind you I thought that in August last year and look what didn't happen.
Last August was different though. We believed that the incoming players would be "as good if not better" than Vydra, Chalobah etc.. Acuna, Iriney, Fabbrini, McGugan, Faraoni.... it seemed almost impossible to fail. We'd never seen them play though, maybe a bit of McGugan but with the others we simply trusted in Nani.
This time we have more knowledge, we know Vydra and Toszer are class players. We've seen Dyer, Gomes and a little of Paredes before, and Cathcart & Tamas have Championship experience.
There's no guarantees but I think the hierarchy have learnt from last August's mistakes.
[quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: 3 more players sounds a lot so that's 10 in total (8 new, 2 returning). Is that too many new faces? I see the logic of the goalkeeper so Bond can go on loan somewhere and get game time and experience. I see the logic of another defensive midfielder so there is cover for Tozser. Another midfielder on top, not sure about unless one of Murray, McGugan, or Battochio is on his way. I could see Murray out on loan, the other two would be permanent, methinks. No mention of the striking department, does that mean that Troy is staying - unless we get an offer we cannot turn down ? OK, Ranegie could play that role, but he doesn't bully defences like Deeney does. and does not have the same on field leadership skills. I am also a little concerned that we can keep all these players happy - Zola did it by his likeable personality, but that gets you only so far as October - December last term proved. Does Sannino command the same levels of respect ? Not sure. Still looks like we will have one of the best, if not the best squad in the championship. Mind you I thought that in August last year and look what didn't happen.[/p][/quote]Last August was different though. We believed that the incoming players would be "as good if not better" than Vydra, Chalobah etc.. Acuna, Iriney, Fabbrini, McGugan, Faraoni.... it seemed almost impossible to fail. We'd never seen them play though, maybe a bit of McGugan but with the others we simply trusted in Nani. This time we have more knowledge, we know Vydra and Toszer are class players. We've seen Dyer, Gomes and a little of Paredes before, and Cathcart & Tamas have Championship experience. There's no guarantees but I think the hierarchy have learnt from last August's mistakes. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 21

12:52pm Fri 11 Jul 14

hertshornet says...

lockerbiehornet wrote:
not a regular wrote:
hertshornet wrote:
Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.
Arsenal paid £30m, Barcelona paid E35m (about £30). So I doubt there's a sell on fee, plus given that Barcelona aren't a selling club you'd want all the money up front.

On the squad? I feel we have too many central defenders (five would suffice) and need one defensive midfielder for when we play 4 at the back, allowing the full backs to push up. A left back would be great but Doyley can deputise and Pudil, touch wood, seems to get FITTER as the match goes on!
I don't think a transfer fee has to show profit from the original price to activate a sell on fee so hopefully they'll get something
I just reckon the Pozzos are shrewd businessmen and hope they inserted that clause into the Barca deal, sell on fees are a usual practice these days. Bournmouth reportedly got a massive cut of the Lallana fee from Liverpool recently.
[quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]not a regular[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertshornet[/bold] wrote: Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.[/p][/quote]Arsenal paid £30m, Barcelona paid E35m (about £30). So I doubt there's a sell on fee, plus given that Barcelona aren't a selling club you'd want all the money up front. On the squad? I feel we have too many central defenders (five would suffice) and need one defensive midfielder for when we play 4 at the back, allowing the full backs to push up. A left back would be great but Doyley can deputise and Pudil, touch wood, seems to get FITTER as the match goes on![/p][/quote]I don't think a transfer fee has to show profit from the original price to activate a sell on fee so hopefully they'll get something[/p][/quote]I just reckon the Pozzos are shrewd businessmen and hope they inserted that clause into the Barca deal, sell on fees are a usual practice these days. Bournmouth reportedly got a massive cut of the Lallana fee from Liverpool recently. hertshornet
  • Score: 1

2:03pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Man from Pinner says...

WessexLad wrote:
not a regular wrote:
hertshornet wrote:
Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.
Arsenal paid £30m, Barcelona paid E35m (about £30). So I doubt there's a sell on fee, plus given that Barcelona aren't a selling club you'd want all the money up front.

On the squad? I feel we have too many central defenders (five would suffice) and need one defensive midfielder for when we play 4 at the back, allowing the full backs to push up. A left back would be great but Doyley can deputise and Pudil, touch wood, seems to get FITTER as the match goes on!
"Why do you play a right-footed player at left back?"

Aidy Boothroyd: "So that when he turns inside, he's got the whole field to aim at!"
I believe it was Rogers who said that.
[quote][p][bold]WessexLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]not a regular[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertshornet[/bold] wrote: Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.[/p][/quote]Arsenal paid £30m, Barcelona paid E35m (about £30). So I doubt there's a sell on fee, plus given that Barcelona aren't a selling club you'd want all the money up front. On the squad? I feel we have too many central defenders (five would suffice) and need one defensive midfielder for when we play 4 at the back, allowing the full backs to push up. A left back would be great but Doyley can deputise and Pudil, touch wood, seems to get FITTER as the match goes on![/p][/quote]"Why do you play a right-footed player at left back?" Aidy Boothroyd: "So that when he turns inside, he's got the whole field to aim at!"[/p][/quote]I believe it was Rogers who said that. Man from Pinner
  • Score: 1

4:03pm Fri 11 Jul 14

lockerbiehornet says...

hertshornet wrote:
lockerbiehornet wrote:
not a regular wrote:
hertshornet wrote:
Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.
Arsenal paid £30m, Barcelona paid E35m (about £30). So I doubt there's a sell on fee, plus given that Barcelona aren't a selling club you'd want all the money up front.

On the squad? I feel we have too many central defenders (five would suffice) and need one defensive midfielder for when we play 4 at the back, allowing the full backs to push up. A left back would be great but Doyley can deputise and Pudil, touch wood, seems to get FITTER as the match goes on!
I don't think a transfer fee has to show profit from the original price to activate a sell on fee so hopefully they'll get something
I just reckon the Pozzos are shrewd businessmen and hope they inserted that clause into the Barca deal, sell on fees are a usual practice these days. Bournmouth reportedly got a massive cut of the Lallana fee from Liverpool recently.
Rumored to be 25% so they have a cash to spend
[quote][p][bold]hertshornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]not a regular[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertshornet[/bold] wrote: Hoping the Sanchez transfer to Arsenal will mean sell on fee coming back to Udinese.[/p][/quote]Arsenal paid £30m, Barcelona paid E35m (about £30). So I doubt there's a sell on fee, plus given that Barcelona aren't a selling club you'd want all the money up front. On the squad? I feel we have too many central defenders (five would suffice) and need one defensive midfielder for when we play 4 at the back, allowing the full backs to push up. A left back would be great but Doyley can deputise and Pudil, touch wood, seems to get FITTER as the match goes on![/p][/quote]I don't think a transfer fee has to show profit from the original price to activate a sell on fee so hopefully they'll get something[/p][/quote]I just reckon the Pozzos are shrewd businessmen and hope they inserted that clause into the Barca deal, sell on fees are a usual practice these days. Bournmouth reportedly got a massive cut of the Lallana fee from Liverpool recently.[/p][/quote]Rumored to be 25% so they have a cash to spend lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 0

7:50pm Fri 11 Jul 14

soulfulhornet says...

Harry's Bar wrote:
soulfulhornet wrote:
3 more players sounds a lot so that's 10 in total (8 new, 2 returning). Is that too many new faces?

I see the logic of the goalkeeper so Bond can go on loan somewhere and get game time and experience. I see the logic of another defensive midfielder so there is cover for Tozser. Another midfielder on top, not sure about unless one of Murray, McGugan, or Battochio is on his way. I could see Murray out on loan, the other two would be permanent, methinks.

No mention of the striking department, does that mean that Troy is staying - unless we get an offer we cannot turn down ? OK, Ranegie could play that role, but he doesn't bully defences like Deeney does. and does not have the same on field leadership skills.

I am also a little concerned that we can keep all these players happy - Zola did it by his likeable personality, but that gets you only so far as October - December last term proved. Does Sannino command the same levels of respect ? Not sure.

Still looks like we will have one of the best, if not the best squad in the championship. Mind you I thought that in August last year and look what didn't happen.
Last August was different though. We believed that the incoming players would be "as good if not better" than Vydra, Chalobah etc.. Acuna, Iriney, Fabbrini, McGugan, Faraoni.... it seemed almost impossible to fail. We'd never seen them play though, maybe a bit of McGugan but with the others we simply trusted in Nani.
This time we have more knowledge, we know Vydra and Toszer are class players. We've seen Dyer, Gomes and a little of Paredes before, and Cathcart & Tamas have Championship experience.
There's no guarantees but I think the hierarchy have learnt from last August's mistakes.
Harry, I kind of agree. Just don't want us to get ahead of ourselves, which we did last term. The first influx was stronger than last - may be the first round draft was better than the second (Angella excepted) - and included players who had a greater desire to be here. But there is always a nagging doubt after last season's over-optimism, that the team will not gel. And Beppe is still unproven at this level in England (i.e the jury is out), but then again so was Aidy. He does have my 100% support as GFZ had.

I am, like you, optimistic, but hope all of us take it one game at a time.
[quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: 3 more players sounds a lot so that's 10 in total (8 new, 2 returning). Is that too many new faces? I see the logic of the goalkeeper so Bond can go on loan somewhere and get game time and experience. I see the logic of another defensive midfielder so there is cover for Tozser. Another midfielder on top, not sure about unless one of Murray, McGugan, or Battochio is on his way. I could see Murray out on loan, the other two would be permanent, methinks. No mention of the striking department, does that mean that Troy is staying - unless we get an offer we cannot turn down ? OK, Ranegie could play that role, but he doesn't bully defences like Deeney does. and does not have the same on field leadership skills. I am also a little concerned that we can keep all these players happy - Zola did it by his likeable personality, but that gets you only so far as October - December last term proved. Does Sannino command the same levels of respect ? Not sure. Still looks like we will have one of the best, if not the best squad in the championship. Mind you I thought that in August last year and look what didn't happen.[/p][/quote]Last August was different though. We believed that the incoming players would be "as good if not better" than Vydra, Chalobah etc.. Acuna, Iriney, Fabbrini, McGugan, Faraoni.... it seemed almost impossible to fail. We'd never seen them play though, maybe a bit of McGugan but with the others we simply trusted in Nani. This time we have more knowledge, we know Vydra and Toszer are class players. We've seen Dyer, Gomes and a little of Paredes before, and Cathcart & Tamas have Championship experience. There's no guarantees but I think the hierarchy have learnt from last August's mistakes.[/p][/quote]Harry, I kind of agree. Just don't want us to get ahead of ourselves, which we did last term. The first influx was stronger than last - may be the first round draft was better than the second (Angella excepted) - and included players who had a greater desire to be here. But there is always a nagging doubt after last season's over-optimism, that the team will not gel. And Beppe is still unproven at this level in England (i.e the jury is out), but then again so was Aidy. He does have my 100% support as GFZ had. I am, like you, optimistic, but hope all of us take it one game at a time. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 3

9:50pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Dunderdale Pinner says...

I look forward to the season with optimism. Hope we can keep a regular squad with not too much chopping and changing. Also the team gel so that the final sum is greater than that of the individual parts. Like Germany and Costa Rica and NOT like England and Brazil.
I look forward to the season with optimism. Hope we can keep a regular squad with not too much chopping and changing. Also the team gel so that the final sum is greater than that of the individual parts. Like Germany and Costa Rica and NOT like England and Brazil. Dunderdale Pinner
  • Score: 2
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