Lewis McGugan and Mathias Ranegie on target for Watford as the Hornets draw 2-2 with Udinese at Vicarage Road

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A stunning Lewis McGugan free-kick and a close range header from Mathias Ranegie helped Watford record a 2-2 draw with fellow Pozzo-owned club Udinese in their friendly at Vicarage Road.

The Italian side had taken the lead in the opening period through Silvan Widmer who headed home from 12 yards.

The Hornets improved after the interval and levelled when McGugan’s fierce free-kick from 30 yards ended in the net.

Udinese re-established their advantage with 15 minutes remaining as substitute Cyril Thereau neatly slotted a shot past Hereulo Gomes.

However, Watford fought back for a second time and earned the draw they deserved when Ranegie nodded in a Daniel Pudil header from inside the six yard box.

With one week until the Championship season begins, Hornets head coach Beppe Sannino said the friendly may provide clues as to how the Hornets would start their opener against Bolton Wanderers next Saturday.

The 4-3-3 system used throughout pre-season was switched to 3-5-2. Gabriel Tamas, Joel Ekstrand and Gabriele Angella were the back three in front of Gomes.

Ikechi Anya and Pudil were the two wing- backs while the midfield trio consisted of McGugan, Keith Andrews and Almen Abdi. Troy Deeney and Matej Vydra led the attack.

Watford looked more comfortable in possession and moved the ball neatly around the pitch, but they failed to create a clear opening.

Watford Observer:

On several occasions the final pass let the Hornets down. When they did manage to break through the Udinese defence, goalkeeper Zeljko Brkic was quickly off his line to snuff out the attack.

Anya did have a sight of goal after a swift passing move but Brkic collected the ball after a loose touch from the Scottish international.

The Little Zebras hadn’t created much of note but almost went in front as Bruno Fernandes struck the crossbar with a close range volley.

Watford didn’t heed that warning and Udinese went in front in the 23rd minute. A pass over a static Hornets defence allowed Widmer time to place his header past Gomes.

The Golden Boys continued to maintain possession but in harmless areas. When they did get a small sight of goal, the Udinese defence halted the opportunity.

The only save Brkic had to make was easy as he held on to a shot from distance from Deeney.

Watford Observer:

Gomes was busier and the Hornets stopper got down well to push clear a Fernandes shot after Tamas had given the ball away on the edge of the Watford area.

It was the final chance of the opening period. For the first time during pre-season, there were no Watford changes at the interval.

The Hornets began the second period with more urgency in possession. Pudil had a shot deflected wide shortly after the restart before McGugan whipped a strike narrowly past the post after Deeney headed the ball down. 

Watford were much more purposeful when they attacked and Sannino’s side levelled just before the hour mark.

After Vydra had been brought down, McGugan stepped up and curled his free kick from 30 yards into the top corner.

Watford Observer:

He was immediately replaced by Cristian Battocchio. Lloyd Dyer and Odion Ighalo were also introduced with Anya and Vydra brought off.

Watford Observer:

Ighalo, who showed several impressive touches throughout his second Watford appearance, had an immediate chance.

The striker held off a challenge of a defender and fired a half volley towards goal. Unfortunately for the Hornets, his effort ended in the side netting.

Watford’s display had improved but they were caught out defensively as Udinese retook the lead.

Watford Observer:

Substitute Allan played through fellow replacement Thereau and the lanky striker sent his effort across Gomes and into the net.

It was a lead the Italians held for only six minutes. Diego Fabbrini, who had come on in place of Abdi, added trickery to the Hornets’ attacks.

He skipped past a challenge and crossed to Pudil. The wing-back headed towards goal and substitute Ranegie got the final touch past Simone Scuffet.

Watford Observer:

In the dying moments Watford almost snatched victory. A short back-pass was intercepted by Ranegie.

He rounded Scuffet and cut the ball back to Ighalo, however, the striker’s pass was too far in front of the Nigerian and the opportunity was lost.

So the Hornets’ first-team ended their pre-season campaign with a draw. Focus now turns to next Saturday and that league opener with Bolton at Vicarage Road.

Watford: Gomes; Angella, Tamas (Hoban 75), Ekstrand; Anya (Dyer 59), Abdi (Fabbrini 75), Andrews, McGugan (Battocchio 59), Pudil (Doyley 81); Deeney (Ranegie 66), Vydra (Ighalo 59) Watford substitutes: Bond, Tozser.

Udinese: Brkic (Scuffet 66); Heurtaux, Danilo, Domizzi; Widmer, Guilherme (Allan 59), Bruno Fernandes (Lopez 88), Pinzi (Badu 70), Riera (Silva 65); Muriel (Thereau 66), Di Natale.

Udinese substitutes: Belmonte, Bubnjic, Pasquale, Zielinski,.

Attendance: 11,085

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5:09pm Sat 2 Aug 14

stiffler99 says...

Bring on the championship now! Come on you Horns!!
Bring on the championship now! Come on you Horns!! stiffler99
  • Score: 14

5:17pm Sat 2 Aug 14

endean2 says...

OH ,only wish I had been there, it sounded like a great game.
really interested to read the comments from you guys.
OH ,only wish I had been there, it sounded like a great game. really interested to read the comments from you guys. endean2
  • Score: 2

5:22pm Sat 2 Aug 14

itsafamilyclub!!! says...

They were showing it live on the Udinese internet site, we scored two very good goals and should have won it.

We looked good, very positive fast moving football.
They were showing it live on the Udinese internet site, we scored two very good goals and should have won it. We looked good, very positive fast moving football. itsafamilyclub!!!
  • Score: 11

5:27pm Sat 2 Aug 14

SuperHorns says...

Fabrinni looks to be the best summer signing so far. However this maybe a Deja vu from Granada match!
Fabrinni looks to be the best summer signing so far. However this maybe a Deja vu from Granada match! SuperHorns
  • Score: 15

5:56pm Sat 2 Aug 14

The Rover says...

Over 11,000 supporters for a pre season friendly is a great turnout. Hopefully with that level of support the owners will realise that the Pozzo cup could become a reality.
Over 11,000 supporters for a pre season friendly is a great turnout. Hopefully with that level of support the owners will realise that the Pozzo cup could become a reality. The Rover
  • Score: 26

5:57pm Sat 2 Aug 14

JonBoy says...

Fabrinni made a difference and Ighalo looks a handful
Fabrinni made a difference and Ighalo looks a handful JonBoy
  • Score: 23

6:00pm Sat 2 Aug 14

oldyella says...

well done 'Chicken Legs' (Fabbrini); great run/assist for Ranegie's goal.
And what a superb free kick from McGugan. Right in the top corner; even their huge 'keeper couldn't reach it. Not a bad showing Watford, particularly without Tozser. I thought Andrews looked pretty solid and lively too. Bodes well...
(WHO captions the pics in these articles? Clearly the first pic is of Vydra!)
well done 'Chicken Legs' (Fabbrini); great run/assist for Ranegie's goal. And what a superb free kick from McGugan. Right in the top corner; even their huge 'keeper couldn't reach it. Not a bad showing Watford, particularly without Tozser. I thought Andrews looked pretty solid and lively too. Bodes well... (WHO captions the pics in these articles? Clearly the first pic is of Vydra!) oldyella
  • Score: 9

6:02pm Sat 2 Aug 14

andyandyandy says...

Fabrini looked awesome last pre season then couldn't hack it in the league. Hope he can turn that around this year.
Ighalo looked the business. Could he keep Deeney and Vydra out of the first 11? Possibly!
What a great position to be in.
Fabrini looked awesome last pre season then couldn't hack it in the league. Hope he can turn that around this year. Ighalo looked the business. Could he keep Deeney and Vydra out of the first 11? Possibly! What a great position to be in. andyandyandy
  • Score: 23

6:24pm Sat 2 Aug 14

VOReason says...

SuperHorns wrote:
Fabrinni looks to be the best summer signing so far. However this maybe a Deja vu from Granada match!
When Fabs did that skill for the second goal I got a bit of pee in my pants x
[quote][p][bold]SuperHorns[/bold] wrote: Fabrinni looks to be the best summer signing so far. However this maybe a Deja vu from Granada match![/p][/quote]When Fabs did that skill for the second goal I got a bit of pee in my pants x VOReason
  • Score: 13

6:28pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Roger "Studs" Joslyn says...

andyandyandy wrote:
Fabrini looked awesome last pre season then couldn't hack it in the league. Hope he can turn that around this year.
Ighalo looked the business. Could he keep Deeney and Vydra out of the first 11? Possibly!
What a great position to be in.
Agreed, Igloo looked really good on today's showing. Very energetic and enthusiastic with great close skill on the ball. If renegie had given him a better cut back in the dying seconds he would have scored the winner.
[quote][p][bold]andyandyandy[/bold] wrote: Fabrini looked awesome last pre season then couldn't hack it in the league. Hope he can turn that around this year. Ighalo looked the business. Could he keep Deeney and Vydra out of the first 11? Possibly! What a great position to be in.[/p][/quote]Agreed, Igloo looked really good on today's showing. Very energetic and enthusiastic with great close skill on the ball. If renegie had given him a better cut back in the dying seconds he would have scored the winner. Roger "Studs" Joslyn
  • Score: 16

6:31pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Roger "Studs" Joslyn says...

Roger "Studs" Joslyn wrote:
andyandyandy wrote:
Fabrini looked awesome last pre season then couldn't hack it in the league. Hope he can turn that around this year.
Ighalo looked the business. Could he keep Deeney and Vydra out of the first 11? Possibly!
What a great position to be in.
Agreed, Igloo looked really good on today's showing. Very energetic and enthusiastic with great close skill on the ball. If renegie had given him a better cut back in the dying seconds he would have scored the winner.
Igloo - built like a brick snow house!!!
[quote][p][bold]Roger "Studs" Joslyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyandyandy[/bold] wrote: Fabrini looked awesome last pre season then couldn't hack it in the league. Hope he can turn that around this year. Ighalo looked the business. Could he keep Deeney and Vydra out of the first 11? Possibly! What a great position to be in.[/p][/quote]Agreed, Igloo looked really good on today's showing. Very energetic and enthusiastic with great close skill on the ball. If renegie had given him a better cut back in the dying seconds he would have scored the winner.[/p][/quote]Igloo - built like a brick snow house!!! Roger "Studs" Joslyn
  • Score: 9

6:41pm Sat 2 Aug 14

MainStandShambles says...

The Rover wrote:
Over 11,000 supporters for a pre season friendly is a great turnout. Hopefully with that level of support the owners will realise that the Pozzo cup could become a reality.
A great idea and well done Hornets fans. Looking at the attendances for other pre-season friendlies in England today our figure of 11000+ was double what most other games had.

I also hope that the 3-5-2 formation today will buy our manager some breathing space from some of the Sannino knockers. It seems he really was trying out a Plan B in earlier games.
[quote][p][bold]The Rover[/bold] wrote: Over 11,000 supporters for a pre season friendly is a great turnout. Hopefully with that level of support the owners will realise that the Pozzo cup could become a reality.[/p][/quote]A great idea and well done Hornets fans. Looking at the attendances for other pre-season friendlies in England today our figure of 11000+ was double what most other games had. I also hope that the 3-5-2 formation today will buy our manager some breathing space from some of the Sannino knockers. It seems he really was trying out a Plan B in earlier games. MainStandShambles
  • Score: 25

6:52pm Sat 2 Aug 14

mattymashup says...

Very glad with the ighalo signing.

It's about time there was an odion back in watford lol
Very glad with the ighalo signing. It's about time there was an odion back in watford lol mattymashup
  • Score: 25

6:58pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Man from Pinner says...

What I did not like about 3-5-3 was seeing Tamas out right and Ekstrand in the middle. It looked to me that Tamas should have been in the middle; certainly his distribution from the right was not always very accurate.
Personally I look forward to seeing Paredes on the right. he should add some pace. Probably I am being a bit fussy since overall the second half performance was very good.
I assume Toszer not given a run so that he is fully recovered for Bolton since of course Andrews cannot play against his own club.
What I did not like about 3-5-3 was seeing Tamas out right and Ekstrand in the middle. It looked to me that Tamas should have been in the middle; certainly his distribution from the right was not always very accurate. Personally I look forward to seeing Paredes on the right. he should add some pace. Probably I am being a bit fussy since overall the second half performance was very good. I assume Toszer not given a run so that he is fully recovered for Bolton since of course Andrews cannot play against his own club. Man from Pinner
  • Score: 4

6:58pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Man from Pinner says...

What I did not like about 3-5-3 was seeing Tamas out right and Ekstrand in the middle. It looked to me that Tamas should have been in the middle; certainly his distribution from the right was not always very accurate.
Personally I look forward to seeing Paredes on the right. he should add some pace. Probably I am being a bit fussy since overall the second half performance was very good.
I assume Toszer not given a run so that he is fully recovered for Bolton since of course Andrews cannot play against his own club.
What I did not like about 3-5-3 was seeing Tamas out right and Ekstrand in the middle. It looked to me that Tamas should have been in the middle; certainly his distribution from the right was not always very accurate. Personally I look forward to seeing Paredes on the right. he should add some pace. Probably I am being a bit fussy since overall the second half performance was very good. I assume Toszer not given a run so that he is fully recovered for Bolton since of course Andrews cannot play against his own club. Man from Pinner
  • Score: 1

7:01pm Sat 2 Aug 14

LifeLongHornet says...

Not to mention Doyley playing right wing! HA!
Not to mention Doyley playing right wing! HA! LifeLongHornet
  • Score: -3

7:08pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Emmer Green Hornet says...

Man from Pinner wrote:
What I did not like about 3-5-3 was seeing Tamas out right and Ekstrand in the middle. It looked to me that Tamas should have been in the middle; certainly his distribution from the right was not always very accurate.
Personally I look forward to seeing Paredes on the right. he should add some pace. Probably I am being a bit fussy since overall the second half performance was very good.
I assume Toszer not given a run so that he is fully recovered for Bolton since of course Andrews cannot play against his own club.
Are we allowed 12 players? Should be a huge advantage this season!
[quote][p][bold]Man from Pinner[/bold] wrote: What I did not like about 3-5-3 was seeing Tamas out right and Ekstrand in the middle. It looked to me that Tamas should have been in the middle; certainly his distribution from the right was not always very accurate. Personally I look forward to seeing Paredes on the right. he should add some pace. Probably I am being a bit fussy since overall the second half performance was very good. I assume Toszer not given a run so that he is fully recovered for Bolton since of course Andrews cannot play against his own club.[/p][/quote]Are we allowed 12 players? Should be a huge advantage this season! Emmer Green Hornet
  • Score: 8

7:10pm Sat 2 Aug 14

dal8oy says...

Tamas was awful. His passing was terrible and the second goal was his fault. Having said that it's the first I've seen of him. Igahlo does look good tho. I hate to say it but he looked more interested than vydra did. Raniege is surplus to requirements I reckon. Looked lazy as well as off side when he stole pudils goal bound header. Otherwise not too bad. Can't wait for next week.
Tamas was awful. His passing was terrible and the second goal was his fault. Having said that it's the first I've seen of him. Igahlo does look good tho. I hate to say it but he looked more interested than vydra did. Raniege is surplus to requirements I reckon. Looked lazy as well as off side when he stole pudils goal bound header. Otherwise not too bad. Can't wait for next week. dal8oy
  • Score: -23

7:13pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Roger "Studs" Joslyn says...

Emmer Green Hornet wrote:
Man from Pinner wrote:
What I did not like about 3-5-3 was seeing Tamas out right and Ekstrand in the middle. It looked to me that Tamas should have been in the middle; certainly his distribution from the right was not always very accurate.
Personally I look forward to seeing Paredes on the right. he should add some pace. Probably I am being a bit fussy since overall the second half performance was very good.
I assume Toszer not given a run so that he is fully recovered for Bolton since of course Andrews cannot play against his own club.
Are we allowed 12 players? Should be a huge advantage this season!
He he he!!!
[quote][p][bold]Emmer Green Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Man from Pinner[/bold] wrote: What I did not like about 3-5-3 was seeing Tamas out right and Ekstrand in the middle. It looked to me that Tamas should have been in the middle; certainly his distribution from the right was not always very accurate. Personally I look forward to seeing Paredes on the right. he should add some pace. Probably I am being a bit fussy since overall the second half performance was very good. I assume Toszer not given a run so that he is fully recovered for Bolton since of course Andrews cannot play against his own club.[/p][/quote]Are we allowed 12 players? Should be a huge advantage this season![/p][/quote]He he he!!! Roger "Studs" Joslyn
  • Score: -4

7:15pm Sat 2 Aug 14

stevyweavy says...

Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.
Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout. stevyweavy
  • Score: -10

7:20pm Sat 2 Aug 14

dal8oy says...

stevyweavy wrote:
Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.
Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.
[quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.[/p][/quote]Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back. dal8oy
  • Score: 20

7:23pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Surbiton says...

Well you cant help wondering if Fabrini hasnt found his best position? Playing in midfield he showed what a qualty act he can be. Ironically his best showing with the club yet.
Well you cant help wondering if Fabrini hasnt found his best position? Playing in midfield he showed what a qualty act he can be. Ironically his best showing with the club yet. Surbiton
  • Score: 16

7:27pm Sat 2 Aug 14

stevyweavy says...

dal8oy wrote:
stevyweavy wrote:
Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.
Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.
Errrr. Tamas was playing at right back not as part of a back three
[quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.[/p][/quote]Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.[/p][/quote]Errrr. Tamas was playing at right back not as part of a back three stevyweavy
  • Score: -31

7:29pm Sat 2 Aug 14

1234566789 says...

Man from Pinner wrote:
What I did not like about 3-5-3 was seeing Tamas out right and Ekstrand in the middle. It looked to me that Tamas should have been in the middle; certainly his distribution from the right was not always very accurate.
Personally I look forward to seeing Paredes on the right. he should add some pace. Probably I am being a bit fussy since overall the second half performance was very good.
I assume Toszer not given a run so that he is fully recovered for Bolton since of course Andrews cannot play against his own club.
You're expecting Paredes to be quicker than Anya on the right?
[quote][p][bold]Man from Pinner[/bold] wrote: What I did not like about 3-5-3 was seeing Tamas out right and Ekstrand in the middle. It looked to me that Tamas should have been in the middle; certainly his distribution from the right was not always very accurate. Personally I look forward to seeing Paredes on the right. he should add some pace. Probably I am being a bit fussy since overall the second half performance was very good. I assume Toszer not given a run so that he is fully recovered for Bolton since of course Andrews cannot play against his own club.[/p][/quote]You're expecting Paredes to be quicker than Anya on the right? 1234566789
  • Score: 0

7:31pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Bush Hornet says...

dal8oy wrote:
Tamas was awful. His passing was terrible and the second goal was his fault. Having said that it's the first I've seen of him. Igahlo does look good tho. I hate to say it but he looked more interested than vydra did. Raniege is surplus to requirements I reckon. Looked lazy as well as off side when he stole pudils goal bound header. Otherwise not too bad. Can't wait for next week.
Tamas did make one or two errors but he's definitely not awful. If you saw how commanding he was in last week's friendly you wouldn't say that. Ranegie is a very good centre forward and might look laid back but def isn't lazy. His cut back was poor but he did really well to keep the move alive in the 1st place. As for your comment about Vydra I think that's just nonsense mate. Won a couple of free kicks including the one which led to McGugan's goal if I'm not mistaken. Vydra looked really lively in the heat against St. Albans too so he's definitely hungry. I do agree about Ighalo though. Looks a great player for this league.
[quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: Tamas was awful. His passing was terrible and the second goal was his fault. Having said that it's the first I've seen of him. Igahlo does look good tho. I hate to say it but he looked more interested than vydra did. Raniege is surplus to requirements I reckon. Looked lazy as well as off side when he stole pudils goal bound header. Otherwise not too bad. Can't wait for next week.[/p][/quote]Tamas did make one or two errors but he's definitely not awful. If you saw how commanding he was in last week's friendly you wouldn't say that. Ranegie is a very good centre forward and might look laid back but def isn't lazy. His cut back was poor but he did really well to keep the move alive in the 1st place. As for your comment about Vydra I think that's just nonsense mate. Won a couple of free kicks including the one which led to McGugan's goal if I'm not mistaken. Vydra looked really lively in the heat against St. Albans too so he's definitely hungry. I do agree about Ighalo though. Looks a great player for this league. Bush Hornet
  • Score: 17

7:33pm Sat 2 Aug 14

WessexLad says...

Enjoyable to watch, and augured well for the coming season.

I suppose it cut down on the stewarding, but it was a shame that families with young children had to use the Rookery. The V-bar gets absolutely packed when the Rookery is full, and although there was no pushing and shoving, it really wasn't a safe place for toddlers.
Enjoyable to watch, and augured well for the coming season. I suppose it cut down on the stewarding, but it was a shame that families with young children had to use the Rookery. The V-bar gets absolutely packed when the Rookery is full, and although there was no pushing and shoving, it really wasn't a safe place for toddlers. WessexLad
  • Score: 5

7:37pm Sat 2 Aug 14

dal8oy says...

stevyweavy wrote:
dal8oy wrote:
stevyweavy wrote:
Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.
Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.
Errrr. Tamas was playing at right back not as part of a back three
wrong
[quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.[/p][/quote]Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.[/p][/quote]Errrr. Tamas was playing at right back not as part of a back three[/p][/quote]wrong dal8oy
  • Score: 21

7:57pm Sat 2 Aug 14

GarstonHorn says...

stevyweavy wrote:
Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.
It was back 3 you donut. Anya was right wing back not a winger
[quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.[/p][/quote]It was back 3 you donut. Anya was right wing back not a winger GarstonHorn
  • Score: 11

7:57pm Sat 2 Aug 14

stevyweavy says...

dal8oy wrote:
stevyweavy wrote:
dal8oy wrote:
stevyweavy wrote:
Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.
Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.
Errrr. Tamas was playing at right back not as part of a back three
wrong
Amazing everybody moaning about Sanino using 4-3-3 so call it 3-5-2 and everybody is happy again. I don't really mind what formation we use as long as it works. Not at all impressed with Tamas playing in that position, worst passer on the pitch by a long way and not enough pace to play right back, caught for pace and out of position a number of times but thankfully Ekstrand was able to bail him out on a number of occasions but he ultimately cost us one goal. Anya did not play as a wing back he played in midfield/attack.
[quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.[/p][/quote]Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.[/p][/quote]Errrr. Tamas was playing at right back not as part of a back three[/p][/quote]wrong[/p][/quote]Amazing everybody moaning about Sanino using 4-3-3 so call it 3-5-2 and everybody is happy again. I don't really mind what formation we use as long as it works. Not at all impressed with Tamas playing in that position, worst passer on the pitch by a long way and not enough pace to play right back, caught for pace and out of position a number of times but thankfully Ekstrand was able to bail him out on a number of occasions but he ultimately cost us one goal. Anya did not play as a wing back he played in midfield/attack. stevyweavy
  • Score: -10

8:05pm Sat 2 Aug 14

itsafamilyclub!!! says...

To be fair to steveyweavy it looked like Tamas was a right back to me, Anya played as a forward/winger..

Although the site said they played the formation of wing backs I thought it was 4 at the back.
To be fair to steveyweavy it looked like Tamas was a right back to me, Anya played as a forward/winger.. Although the site said they played the formation of wing backs I thought it was 4 at the back. itsafamilyclub!!!
  • Score: -7

8:11pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Gusthehorn says...

oldyella wrote:
well done 'Chicken Legs' (Fabbrini); great run/assist for Ranegie's goal.
And what a superb free kick from McGugan. Right in the top corner; even their huge 'keeper couldn't reach it. Not a bad showing Watford, particularly without Tozser. I thought Andrews looked pretty solid and lively too. Bodes well...
(WHO captions the pics in these articles? Clearly the first pic is of Vydra!)
I agree about Andrews. Could be an astute bit of business, very unflustered, goes about his business well.
[quote][p][bold]oldyella[/bold] wrote: well done 'Chicken Legs' (Fabbrini); great run/assist for Ranegie's goal. And what a superb free kick from McGugan. Right in the top corner; even their huge 'keeper couldn't reach it. Not a bad showing Watford, particularly without Tozser. I thought Andrews looked pretty solid and lively too. Bodes well... (WHO captions the pics in these articles? Clearly the first pic is of Vydra!)[/p][/quote]I agree about Andrews. Could be an astute bit of business, very unflustered, goes about his business well. Gusthehorn
  • Score: 9

8:22pm Sat 2 Aug 14

stevyweavy says...

itsafamilyclub!!! wrote:
To be fair to steveyweavy it looked like Tamas was a right back to me, Anya played as a forward/winger..

Although the site said they played the formation of wing backs I thought it was 4 at the back.
Thank you. Anya did not take part in defensive duties today and when they switched around in the second half Pudil switched to the right again ahead of Tamas not as a wingback.
[quote][p][bold]itsafamilyclub!!![/bold] wrote: To be fair to steveyweavy it looked like Tamas was a right back to me, Anya played as a forward/winger.. Although the site said they played the formation of wing backs I thought it was 4 at the back.[/p][/quote]Thank you. Anya did not take part in defensive duties today and when they switched around in the second half Pudil switched to the right again ahead of Tamas not as a wingback. stevyweavy
  • Score: -10

8:26pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Sincethe80's says...

The Fabbrini from last season wouldn't have given himself the chance to cross it, as he would've fallen over and spent 5mins claiming for a free-kick .... much improved, lets hope it lasts. Ranegie won't get much of a look in surely, apart from scoring looked like he couldn't really be bothered, hasn't anyone told him about competition for places. Vydra didn't show (or get to show perhaps) what we all know he can do, on the other hand excited by Ighalo just as long as he doesn't get put off by the Championship and how other teams play the game.
The Fabbrini from last season wouldn't have given himself the chance to cross it, as he would've fallen over and spent 5mins claiming for a free-kick .... much improved, lets hope it lasts. Ranegie won't get much of a look in surely, apart from scoring looked like he couldn't really be bothered, hasn't anyone told him about competition for places. Vydra didn't show (or get to show perhaps) what we all know he can do, on the other hand excited by Ighalo just as long as he doesn't get put off by the Championship and how other teams play the game. Sincethe80's
  • Score: 1

8:46pm Sat 2 Aug 14

GarstonHorn says...

stevyweavy wrote:
dal8oy wrote:
stevyweavy wrote:
dal8oy wrote:
stevyweavy wrote:
Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.
Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.
Errrr. Tamas was playing at right back not as part of a back three
wrong
Amazing everybody moaning about Sanino using 4-3-3 so call it 3-5-2 and everybody is happy again. I don't really mind what formation we use as long as it works. Not at all impressed with Tamas playing in that position, worst passer on the pitch by a long way and not enough pace to play right back, caught for pace and out of position a number of times but thankfully Ekstrand was able to bail him out on a number of occasions but he ultimately cost us one goal. Anya did not play as a wing back he played in midfield/attack.
Tamas didn't play right back he played right side of a 3. sometimes using that formation either the right sided or left sided centre half gets a chance to move forward in midfield. As they were getting a lot of space that side Tamas moved forward into the space and yes, put a couple of wayward crosses in but last season we were lacking an aggressive centre half so he's the kind of player we need this season to push on for promotion so stop moaning and get behind him
[quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.[/p][/quote]Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.[/p][/quote]Errrr. Tamas was playing at right back not as part of a back three[/p][/quote]wrong[/p][/quote]Amazing everybody moaning about Sanino using 4-3-3 so call it 3-5-2 and everybody is happy again. I don't really mind what formation we use as long as it works. Not at all impressed with Tamas playing in that position, worst passer on the pitch by a long way and not enough pace to play right back, caught for pace and out of position a number of times but thankfully Ekstrand was able to bail him out on a number of occasions but he ultimately cost us one goal. Anya did not play as a wing back he played in midfield/attack.[/p][/quote]Tamas didn't play right back he played right side of a 3. sometimes using that formation either the right sided or left sided centre half gets a chance to move forward in midfield. As they were getting a lot of space that side Tamas moved forward into the space and yes, put a couple of wayward crosses in but last season we were lacking an aggressive centre half so he's the kind of player we need this season to push on for promotion so stop moaning and get behind him GarstonHorn
  • Score: 13

8:51pm Sat 2 Aug 14

WessexLad says...

How's about we settle for 3-1-4-2?
How's about we settle for 3-1-4-2? WessexLad
  • Score: 8

9:28pm Sat 2 Aug 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

endean2 wrote:
OH ,only wish I had been there, it sounded like a great game.
really interested to read the comments from you guys.
It wasn't that great. The first half was really poor from us - we created nothing. Vydra was especially disappointing. The second half was much better, however. Ighalo looks very useful and keen.
[quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: OH ,only wish I had been there, it sounded like a great game. really interested to read the comments from you guys.[/p][/quote]It wasn't that great. The first half was really poor from us - we created nothing. Vydra was especially disappointing. The second half was much better, however. Ighalo looks very useful and keen. The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 4

9:33pm Sat 2 Aug 14

1\1881 says...

A 'contact' of mine says our summer signing spree may not be over yet...all eyes on chelsea. forza our mighty horns. Whatever the score against Bolton, 30 years of loving the horns tells me THIS is going to be one memorable season indeed - sit back and enjoy.
A 'contact' of mine says our summer signing spree may not be over yet...all eyes on chelsea. forza our mighty horns. Whatever the score against Bolton, 30 years of loving the horns tells me THIS is going to be one memorable season indeed - sit back and enjoy. 1\1881
  • Score: 4

9:38pm Sat 2 Aug 14

harrowboy says...

Agree Tamas had distribution problems but defensively thought he was very solid. Agree with earlier post that centre of three is not Ekstrtands best position. Overall I thought this was a competent performance. Although I have to say that Vidrah looked off the pace. Also if we play Lloyd Dyer we need to get the ball to him early otherwise he is wasted. Why play across the middle when one long ball leaves him in acres of space. Gomes could be an important player; his ditsribution was good and playing as a sweeper at times -Mr Bond please note!!
I am quiteily confident - roll on next Saturday
Agree Tamas had distribution problems but defensively thought he was very solid. Agree with earlier post that centre of three is not Ekstrtands best position. Overall I thought this was a competent performance. Although I have to say that Vidrah looked off the pace. Also if we play Lloyd Dyer we need to get the ball to him early otherwise he is wasted. Why play across the middle when one long ball leaves him in acres of space. Gomes could be an important player; his ditsribution was good and playing as a sweeper at times -Mr Bond please note!! I am quiteily confident - roll on next Saturday harrowboy
  • Score: 3

9:47pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Andrew1963 says...

Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.
Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature. Andrew1963
  • Score: -1

10:22pm Sat 2 Aug 14

BarryEndean says...

Andrew1963 wrote:
Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.
Yeah I thought that. One of the steel girders looked completely bent. Was generally surprised how unfinished the whole stand looked.
[quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.[/p][/quote]Yeah I thought that. One of the steel girders looked completely bent. Was generally surprised how unfinished the whole stand looked. BarryEndean
  • Score: 4

10:40pm Sat 2 Aug 14

D.unstable says...

VOReason wrote:
SuperHorns wrote:
Fabrinni looks to be the best summer signing so far. However this maybe a Deja vu from Granada match!
When Fabs did that skill for the second goal I got a bit of pee in my pants x
We've come along way, when Scott Loach was in goal I often used to 5hit myself
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperHorns[/bold] wrote: Fabrinni looks to be the best summer signing so far. However this maybe a Deja vu from Granada match![/p][/quote]When Fabs did that skill for the second goal I got a bit of pee in my pants x[/p][/quote]We've come along way, when Scott Loach was in goal I often used to 5hit myself D.unstable
  • Score: -1

11:03pm Sat 2 Aug 14

WessexLad says...

BarryEndean wrote:
Andrew1963 wrote:
Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.
Yeah I thought that. One of the steel girders looked completely bent. Was generally surprised how unfinished the whole stand looked.
But at least we are using the new changing rooms. I was surprised by the space between the back of the stand and Occupation Road. Or is that required to support a second tier as and when?
[quote][p][bold]BarryEndean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.[/p][/quote]Yeah I thought that. One of the steel girders looked completely bent. Was generally surprised how unfinished the whole stand looked.[/p][/quote]But at least we are using the new changing rooms. I was surprised by the space between the back of the stand and Occupation Road. Or is that required to support a second tier as and when? WessexLad
  • Score: 2

11:12pm Sat 2 Aug 14

WessexLad says...

BarryEndean wrote:
Andrew1963 wrote:
Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.
Yeah I thought that. One of the steel girders looked completely bent. Was generally surprised how unfinished the whole stand looked.
But at least we are using the new changing rooms. I was surprised by the space between the back of the stand and Occupation Road. Or is that required to support a second tier as and when?
[quote][p][bold]BarryEndean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.[/p][/quote]Yeah I thought that. One of the steel girders looked completely bent. Was generally surprised how unfinished the whole stand looked.[/p][/quote]But at least we are using the new changing rooms. I was surprised by the space between the back of the stand and Occupation Road. Or is that required to support a second tier as and when? WessexLad
  • Score: 1

11:28pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Bush Hornet says...

BarryEndean wrote:
Andrew1963 wrote:
Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.
Yeah I thought that. One of the steel girders looked completely bent. Was generally surprised how unfinished the whole stand looked.
I'm not an architect or any kind of building expert but I can't believe that it can advance until that section is redone. No wonder it's taken so long. That girder is completely knackered. I've never seen anything like it. Maybe we should name the stand after Bent Baz after all.
[quote][p][bold]BarryEndean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.[/p][/quote]Yeah I thought that. One of the steel girders looked completely bent. Was generally surprised how unfinished the whole stand looked.[/p][/quote]I'm not an architect or any kind of building expert but I can't believe that it can advance until that section is redone. No wonder it's taken so long. That girder is completely knackered. I've never seen anything like it. Maybe we should name the stand after Bent Baz after all. Bush Hornet
  • Score: 3

1:19am Sun 3 Aug 14

Dino1982 says...

stevyweavy wrote:
dal8oy wrote:
stevyweavy wrote:
dal8oy wrote:
stevyweavy wrote:
Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.
Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.
Errrr. Tamas was playing at right back not as part of a back three
wrong
Amazing everybody moaning about Sanino using 4-3-3 so call it 3-5-2 and everybody is happy again. I don't really mind what formation we use as long as it works. Not at all impressed with Tamas playing in that position, worst passer on the pitch by a long way and not enough pace to play right back, caught for pace and out of position a number of times but thankfully Ekstrand was able to bail him out on a number of occasions but he ultimately cost us one goal. Anya did not play as a wing back he played in midfield/attack.
I think shame Faaroni has left, as ideal in that position. Having seen him last season makes Tamas look very average.
Good display from Angella.
[quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.[/p][/quote]Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.[/p][/quote]Errrr. Tamas was playing at right back not as part of a back three[/p][/quote]wrong[/p][/quote]Amazing everybody moaning about Sanino using 4-3-3 so call it 3-5-2 and everybody is happy again. I don't really mind what formation we use as long as it works. Not at all impressed with Tamas playing in that position, worst passer on the pitch by a long way and not enough pace to play right back, caught for pace and out of position a number of times but thankfully Ekstrand was able to bail him out on a number of occasions but he ultimately cost us one goal. Anya did not play as a wing back he played in midfield/attack.[/p][/quote]I think shame Faaroni has left, as ideal in that position. Having seen him last season makes Tamas look very average. Good display from Angella. Dino1982
  • Score: 0

7:34am Sun 3 Aug 14

harryhornet says...

I spent quite a bit of time watching Vydra off the ball to see if his heart was in it given the Jeckell and Hyde nature of his first stay. It wasn't encouraging. He was huffing and throwing his arms up, clearly not enjoying it and he got quite a nasty looking strop on when he was subbed off. There wasn't a seat for him on the bench and again he stropped and took him to a seat on his own where he was instantly surrounded by about 4 or 5 support staff who seemed to be trying to chivy him along but he stormed off down the tunnel. Anya went down the tunnel as well so wouldn't read too much into that but overall it left me a bit concerned
I spent quite a bit of time watching Vydra off the ball to see if his heart was in it given the Jeckell and Hyde nature of his first stay. It wasn't encouraging. He was huffing and throwing his arms up, clearly not enjoying it and he got quite a nasty looking strop on when he was subbed off. There wasn't a seat for him on the bench and again he stropped and took him to a seat on his own where he was instantly surrounded by about 4 or 5 support staff who seemed to be trying to chivy him along but he stormed off down the tunnel. Anya went down the tunnel as well so wouldn't read too much into that but overall it left me a bit concerned harryhornet
  • Score: 2

8:48am Sun 3 Aug 14

SAHornet says...

harryhornet wrote:
I spent quite a bit of time watching Vydra off the ball to see if his heart was in it given the Jeckell and Hyde nature of his first stay. It wasn't encouraging. He was huffing and throwing his arms up, clearly not enjoying it and he got quite a nasty looking strop on when he was subbed off. There wasn't a seat for him on the bench and again he stropped and took him to a seat on his own where he was instantly surrounded by about 4 or 5 support staff who seemed to be trying to chivy him along but he stormed off down the tunnel. Anya went down the tunnel as well so wouldn't read too much into that but overall it left me a bit concerned
Deffo think he's high maintenance. Might be a problem for us again later. Just gives me the impression that he thinks he's better than all this. Hope I'm wrong. We'll see.
[quote][p][bold]harryhornet[/bold] wrote: I spent quite a bit of time watching Vydra off the ball to see if his heart was in it given the Jeckell and Hyde nature of his first stay. It wasn't encouraging. He was huffing and throwing his arms up, clearly not enjoying it and he got quite a nasty looking strop on when he was subbed off. There wasn't a seat for him on the bench and again he stropped and took him to a seat on his own where he was instantly surrounded by about 4 or 5 support staff who seemed to be trying to chivy him along but he stormed off down the tunnel. Anya went down the tunnel as well so wouldn't read too much into that but overall it left me a bit concerned[/p][/quote]Deffo think he's high maintenance. Might be a problem for us again later. Just gives me the impression that he thinks he's better than all this. Hope I'm wrong. We'll see. SAHornet
  • Score: 6

9:04am Sun 3 Aug 14

No Wheels says...

I'm not especially impressed by Ighalo. Apart from skill, pace, strength and attitude, he doesn't seem to have much to offer.
I'm not especially impressed by Ighalo. Apart from skill, pace, strength and attitude, he doesn't seem to have much to offer. No Wheels
  • Score: 8

10:51am Sun 3 Aug 14

onlyboag says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
BarryEndean wrote:
Andrew1963 wrote:
Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.
Yeah I thought that. One of the steel girders looked completely bent. Was generally surprised how unfinished the whole stand looked.
I'm not an architect or any kind of building expert but I can't believe that it can advance until that section is redone. No wonder it's taken so long. That girder is completely knackered. I've never seen anything like it. Maybe we should name the stand after Bent Baz after all.
Have to agree, I was surprised at how much needs to be done to complete the stand and I'm no brickie but some of the work that has been done especially on the new wall along Occupation Road is shocking. I'm rather glad I've got a seat in the Rookery End doesn't look like the new stand will be fit for purpose or ready for Christmas?
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BarryEndean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.[/p][/quote]Yeah I thought that. One of the steel girders looked completely bent. Was generally surprised how unfinished the whole stand looked.[/p][/quote]I'm not an architect or any kind of building expert but I can't believe that it can advance until that section is redone. No wonder it's taken so long. That girder is completely knackered. I've never seen anything like it. Maybe we should name the stand after Bent Baz after all.[/p][/quote]Have to agree, I was surprised at how much needs to be done to complete the stand and I'm no brickie but some of the work that has been done especially on the new wall along Occupation Road is shocking. I'm rather glad I've got a seat in the Rookery End doesn't look like the new stand will be fit for purpose or ready for Christmas? onlyboag
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4:44pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Watford82 says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
BarryEndean wrote:
Andrew1963 wrote:
Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.
Yeah I thought that. One of the steel girders looked completely bent. Was generally surprised how unfinished the whole stand looked.
I'm not an architect or any kind of building expert but I can't believe that it can advance until that section is redone. No wonder it's taken so long. That girder is completely knackered. I've never seen anything like it. Maybe we should name the stand after Bent Baz after all.
I think you should leave the frame design to the engineers; the angle of the frame is to help counter the weight of the roof.
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BarryEndean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: Sat in the Rookery, not sure how stretched audience were throughout the match, but a fun afternoon. Gomes looked commanding, the midfield was ok, but struggled to hold the ball in the first half. Forwards ok. Not sure we are much forward from where we were 12 months ago. On a different topic the end of the new east stand looked off square by a long way, hope that is a design feature.[/p][/quote]Yeah I thought that. One of the steel girders looked completely bent. Was generally surprised how unfinished the whole stand looked.[/p][/quote]I'm not an architect or any kind of building expert but I can't believe that it can advance until that section is redone. No wonder it's taken so long. That girder is completely knackered. I've never seen anything like it. Maybe we should name the stand after Bent Baz after all.[/p][/quote]I think you should leave the frame design to the engineers; the angle of the frame is to help counter the weight of the roof. Watford82
  • Score: 0

5:56pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Man from Pinner says...

1234566789 wrote:
Man from Pinner wrote:
What I did not like about 3-5-3 was seeing Tamas out right and Ekstrand in the middle. It looked to me that Tamas should have been in the middle; certainly his distribution from the right was not always very accurate.
Personally I look forward to seeing Paredes on the right. he should add some pace. Probably I am being a bit fussy since overall the second half performance was very good.
I assume Toszer not given a run so that he is fully recovered for Bolton since of course Andrews cannot play against his own club.
You're expecting Paredes to be quicker than Anya on the right?
No I am expecting him to be on the right in the back 3
[quote][p][bold]1234566789[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Man from Pinner[/bold] wrote: What I did not like about 3-5-3 was seeing Tamas out right and Ekstrand in the middle. It looked to me that Tamas should have been in the middle; certainly his distribution from the right was not always very accurate. Personally I look forward to seeing Paredes on the right. he should add some pace. Probably I am being a bit fussy since overall the second half performance was very good. I assume Toszer not given a run so that he is fully recovered for Bolton since of course Andrews cannot play against his own club.[/p][/quote]You're expecting Paredes to be quicker than Anya on the right?[/p][/quote]No I am expecting him to be on the right in the back 3 Man from Pinner
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10:03pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Cuthbert007 says...

dal8oy wrote:
stevyweavy wrote:
Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.
Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.
No it was 5 at the back for the last 20 mins.
[quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: Don't know what match he was watching but we continued with a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 with Angella and Ekstrand in the middle, Pudil left back, Tamas right back, a midfield of Andrews in holding role with Abdi & McGugan and Anya switching from midfield to atttack regularly supporting Deeney and Vydra up front. Can't understand why we persevered for so long with Tamas at right back as his distribution was atrocious. Ighalo looked really good when he came on. We looked good going forward and our passing in general looks to have improved but we are still being subjected to fairly basic defensive frailties which was disappointing. Excellent to see such a large turnout.[/p][/quote]Errrr. It was clearly 3 at the back.[/p][/quote]No it was 5 at the back for the last 20 mins. Cuthbert007
  • Score: -3

6:10am Mon 4 Aug 14

VOReason says...

D.unstable wrote:
VOReason wrote:
SuperHorns wrote:
Fabrinni looks to be the best summer signing so far. However this maybe a Deja vu from Granada match!
When Fabs did that skill for the second goal I got a bit of pee in my pants x
We've come along way, when Scott Loach was in goal I often used to 5hit myself
Some people find that sexu@l too!
[quote][p][bold]D.unstable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperHorns[/bold] wrote: Fabrinni looks to be the best summer signing so far. However this maybe a Deja vu from Granada match![/p][/quote]When Fabs did that skill for the second goal I got a bit of pee in my pants x[/p][/quote]We've come along way, when Scott Loach was in goal I often used to 5hit myself[/p][/quote]Some people find that sexu@l too! VOReason
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