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Pub playground may have to close

11:33am Wednesday 21st May 2008

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A publican from Croxley Green is to fight a council ruling which may force him to remove play equipment worth thousands of pounds from his beer garden.

Mark Cooper, landlord of the Coach and Horses, erected the equipment early last year but saw a retrospective planning application for it turned down by councillors in December.

The council's Development Control Committee decided the structures were too ugly for the garden of a listed building and also ruled that the impact on the residents living in adjoining houses was unacceptable.

Excessive noise created by excitable children was highlighted as an area of particular concern.

Mr Cooper, however, claims the council's ruling is unreasonable and launched an appeal against it earlier in the month.

It will be decided by an independent inspector over the next three months.

Anyone wishing to withdraw or amend comments already submitted during the original application should write in triplicate to the Planning Inspectorate, Room 3/14 Eagle Wing, Temple Quay House, 2 The Square Temple Quay, Bristol, BS1 6PN. Submissions should be made before June 18.

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skint, South Oxhey says...
11:43am Wed 21 May 08

Let him keep the equipment. Here we have a pub landlord doing something good for his customers and their families. Then the usual miserable brigade come along and try to spoil it. shame on them.

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JBB, Watford says...
12:23pm Wed 21 May 08

honestly, what is going on?!!!! Children sqealing with delight - poor neighbours! didnt they have kids once!!!

Leave the landlord alone! Do they moan about the noise of the Croxley Revels?

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spetrie, Rickmansworth says...
1:17pm Wed 21 May 08

Apart from the fact that if you live next door to a pub you're going to get some noise, what is wrong with these moaning minnies!! It's lovely to see and hear children playing outside in a safe environment not sitting bored inside or spending all day in front of a tv or computer!! Here we have someone who is encouraging families to spend time together in a social environment. BACK THE LANDLORD I SAY!

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Derek, Watford says...
1:55pm Wed 21 May 08

The alternative is for the children to stay indoors, play computer games, get obese and die of heart disease!

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monkey, Croxley says...
2:50pm Wed 21 May 08

The landlord should reissue the application as a 'large block of flats with playground'. It should get approved then.

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Classy Chav, croxley says...
4:01pm Wed 21 May 08

Three Rivers council do absolutely nothing for kids. Then when somebody pays for playground equipment out of their own money these whinging gits (aka councillors) try and stop him. No back handers i suspect !

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Classy Chav, croxley says...
4:04pm Wed 21 May 08

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Happy Grazer, Aylesbury says...
8:12pm Wed 21 May 08

I see the same bunch of idiots are in the planning department at TRDC

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Radar, Rickmansworth says...
7:11am Thu 22 May 08

If the play equipment were such a great idea, then why wasn't planning permission sought BEFORE it was installed, rather than after?

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meridanny, says...
8:52am Thu 22 May 08

Radar wrote:
If the play equipment were such a great idea, then why wasn't planning permission sought BEFORE it was installed, rather than after?

Who in their right mind would think you need planning permission for a slide?Also,to all those moaning neighbours,the pub was there a LONG time before any of them moved there.How did the resisidents ever cope when the FUNFAIR came to town on the green?Its a case of too much power,not enough grey matter....

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Jimbobfury, Watford says...
9:44am Thu 22 May 08

I've been in the pub a number of times and the play area is fantasic for kids, gives the oub a real family atmosphere!
Back the land lord

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crazyfrog, Watford says...
10:34am Thu 22 May 08

Absolute shame on the people that have opposed this! and absolute shame on the council for backing them. more amenities for children should be encouraged and not blocked by a bunch of NIMBYS

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P, Croxley says...
2:24pm Thu 22 May 08

As landlord is in the building trade he should know planning laws. Great shame a superb old traditional pub on the green now aimed at young teenagers. Great for them but no longer my local.

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md, says...
3:15pm Thu 22 May 08

P wrote:
As landlord is in the building trade he should know planning laws. Great shame a superb old traditional pub on the green now aimed at young teenagers. Great for them but no longer my local.

You are talking out of your ar5e mush.If as you say,the pub is aimed at teenagers,why build a play area for children?surely the building of the play area shows the exact opposite of your comment.Last time i looked,it was legal to drink from the age of eighTEEN,meaning teenagers(18 and over)can drink in a PUB.Imagine if all the teenagers had the same attitude towards old people.Id rather be stuck in a pub with teenagers who are ALIVE rather than a boring old sod like you whose only joy in life is spoiling other peoples enjoyment.What planet are you from,TRADITIONAL.We live in a modern world with no time for tradition.Tradition is a thing of the past that old people hang onto like grim death as they have not moved on with time.

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skint, South Oxhey says...
3:20pm Thu 22 May 08

md - you talk b*ll*cks

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Hornet, Rickmansworth says...
8:54am Fri 23 May 08

The alternative is for the children to stay indoors, play computer games, get obese and die of heart disease! Three Rivers council do absolutely nothing for kids. Then when somebody pays for playground equipment out of their own money these whinging gits (aka councillors) try and stop him. No back handers i suspect quote]
With the serious drink problem that this country has at the moment the last place kids should get there play from is a pub. As for "now where to go" 10000 people were at the Aquadrome last weekend - keeping fit and healthy

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