Liberal Democrats hold seat in central Watford by-election

The Liberal Democrats emerged victorious following a hotly contested fight with Labour in the central Watford by-election.

The party held onto the seat vacated by former councillor Chris Leslie when he took a job in the midlands with a slightly reduced vote share.

The Lib Dem Candidate Lizz Ayre won the Watford Borough Council seat with 716 votes. Her nearest challenger, Labour’s Avril Haley, won 550.

The Conservative candidate Binita Mehta came in third with 151 votes, the Green candidate Su Murray won 83 and the UK Independence Party candidate Renie Price won 59.

Following the result Lizz Ayre said: “I am very, very happy with that despite the very dirty campaign run by some people. I am also pleased it was a clear result.”

When asked what her priorities are for central Watford, she added: “To continue to make it a great place. I heard on the doorstep people say a lot of bad things, but it is a great place to live.”

The results represent a slight slip in the Lib Dems’ vote share, from 47 per cent to 45 per cent, compared to the last election in Central ward in May.

Labour improved on their May result going from 31 per cent to 35 per cent and the Conservatives remain on 10 per cent.

The Greens slipped slightly from six per cent to five per cent, as did UKIP, which went from four per cent to three.

After the count, Mike Jackson, chairman of Watford Labour said: "Avril has been a fantastic first time candidate. She has experienced the Liberal Democrats at their dishonest worst, but she has put Labour in a very strong position to win this seat back in 2014."

 

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1:10am Fri 16 Nov 12

MJ1 says...

3% swing to Labour since May. Liberal Democrat majority down from 284 to 166. Tory down by 1%. Not bad given the misrepresentation by the Liberal Democrats, claiming that their candidate lived in Central Ward whilst being forced to confess on the eve of poll that she lived in Hertsmere. Avril Haley was a great first time candidate - creating the basis for a Labour gain in 2014. Well done Avril
3% swing to Labour since May. Liberal Democrat majority down from 284 to 166. Tory down by 1%. Not bad given the misrepresentation by the Liberal Democrats, claiming that their candidate lived in Central Ward whilst being forced to confess on the eve of poll that she lived in Hertsmere. Avril Haley was a great first time candidate - creating the basis for a Labour gain in 2014. Well done Avril MJ1

8:06am Fri 16 Nov 12

watwich says...

I'm pleased to say that the Lib Dems deserve to win,especially after the dirty tricks played by the Labour dept! Lib Dems are the only party to be seen all year round,where as the others only appear at election time! Good on ya Lizz and may you continue the great job that the Lib Dems are doing!
I'm pleased to say that the Lib Dems deserve to win,especially after the dirty tricks played by the Labour dept! Lib Dems are the only party to be seen all year round,where as the others only appear at election time! Good on ya Lizz and may you continue the great job that the Lib Dems are doing! watwich

9:15am Fri 16 Nov 12

John Howard Norfolk says...

MJ1 wrote:
3% swing to Labour since May. Liberal Democrat majority down from 284 to 166. Tory down by 1%. Not bad given the misrepresentation by the Liberal Democrats, claiming that their candidate lived in Central Ward whilst being forced to confess on the eve of poll that she lived in Hertsmere. Avril Haley was a great first time candidate - creating the basis for a Labour gain in 2014. Well done Avril
This business of living outside the ward boundary is unimportant. A great many of us regard ourselves as "Watford residents" with work, school and family commitments within the town boundaries and yet the street where we live may be in Three Rivers or Hertsmere and perhaps far closer to Watford Town Hall than either Ricky or Borehamwood!
[quote][p][bold]MJ1[/bold] wrote: 3% swing to Labour since May. Liberal Democrat majority down from 284 to 166. Tory down by 1%. Not bad given the misrepresentation by the Liberal Democrats, claiming that their candidate lived in Central Ward whilst being forced to confess on the eve of poll that she lived in Hertsmere. Avril Haley was a great first time candidate - creating the basis for a Labour gain in 2014. Well done Avril[/p][/quote]This business of living outside the ward boundary is unimportant. A great many of us regard ourselves as "Watford residents" with work, school and family commitments within the town boundaries and yet the street where we live may be in Three Rivers or Hertsmere and perhaps far closer to Watford Town Hall than either Ricky or Borehamwood! John Howard Norfolk

9:21am Fri 16 Nov 12

clarkie750 says...

Congratulations LIzz. Far and away the best candidate and you rose above Labour's incredibly negative campaign.
Congratulations LIzz. Far and away the best candidate and you rose above Labour's incredibly negative campaign. clarkie750

9:49am Fri 16 Nov 12

MamaCass says...

clarkie750 wrote:
Congratulations LIzz. Far and away the best candidate and you rose above Labour's incredibly negative campaign.
Quite right Clarkie750, a well deserved result for Lizz, and just reward for her and her team's hard work. It sends out a strong message that Watford residents don't respond well to the sort of dirty campaigning that Labour indulge in. Everyone is suffering from the foul-up Labour made of the UK economy and locally most of us still remember the foul-up they made of running the Council. Mayor Dorothy's LibDems have turned this town around into the thriving, forward looking place it now is. Keep up the good work LibDems! the vast majority of Watford residents appreciate what you are doing.
[quote][p][bold]clarkie750[/bold] wrote: Congratulations LIzz. Far and away the best candidate and you rose above Labour's incredibly negative campaign.[/p][/quote]Quite right Clarkie750, a well deserved result for Lizz, and just reward for her and her team's hard work. It sends out a strong message that Watford residents don't respond well to the sort of dirty campaigning that Labour indulge in. Everyone is suffering from the foul-up Labour made of the UK economy and locally most of us still remember the foul-up they made of running the Council. Mayor Dorothy's LibDems have turned this town around into the thriving, forward looking place it now is. Keep up the good work LibDems! the vast majority of Watford residents appreciate what you are doing. MamaCass

10:27am Fri 16 Nov 12

Bernard says...

From Stephen Giles-Medhurst (County Councillor,Central Watford and Oxhey:

Many thanks to residents who backed Lizz and the Lib Dem team in this very hard fought campaign.

Labour put increasingly nasty and desperate leaflets including three on
polling day, all attacking Lizz who is a legally qualified candidate running a business in the centre of the ward and had untill recenty lived in Shaftesbuy Road in the ward

The result was:

May 12
LD Lizz Ayre 716, 45.9% -1.6% 816 47.5%
Lab 550, 35.3% +4.3% 532 31.0%
Con 151, 9.7% -1.1% 186 10.8%
Green 83, 5.3% -0.9% 106 6.2%
UKIP 59. 3.8% -0.6% 76 4.4%

Poll 24.9% 27.16%
24 spoilt papers


Which given the national picture and the full froce of Watford Labour Party just working in Central ward- unlike in May, is I think a very good result indeed. In a by election in the same ward two years ago Labour came within 74 votes of winning and polled 622 votes on a similiar turnout!.

So thank you Central residents for your suppport once again. The whole team will contiune to keep on working for you all year round.

Stephen
From Stephen Giles-Medhurst (County Councillor,Central Watford and Oxhey: Many thanks to residents who backed Lizz and the Lib Dem team in this very hard fought campaign. Labour put increasingly nasty and desperate leaflets including three on polling day, all attacking Lizz who is a legally qualified candidate running a business in the centre of the ward and had untill recenty lived in Shaftesbuy Road in the ward The result was: May 12 LD Lizz Ayre 716, 45.9% -1.6% 816 47.5% Lab 550, 35.3% +4.3% 532 31.0% Con 151, 9.7% -1.1% 186 10.8% Green 83, 5.3% -0.9% 106 6.2% UKIP 59. 3.8% -0.6% 76 4.4% Poll 24.9% 27.16% 24 spoilt papers Which given the national picture and the full froce of Watford Labour Party just working in Central ward- unlike in May, is I think a very good result indeed. In a by election in the same ward two years ago Labour came within 74 votes of winning and polled 622 votes on a similiar turnout!. So thank you Central residents for your suppport once again. The whole team will contiune to keep on working for you all year round. Stephen Bernard

10:42am Fri 16 Nov 12

Sara says...

Liz made no secret of the fact that she used to live in the ward in Shaftesbury Road and had sold her home their. As a young couple her and her husband are temporarily living with her parents in Aldenham Road (hardly a long way away) whilst looking for a family home
in central Watford.

As the owner of the Cafe on the Corner in the centre of the ward in
Queens Road, Lizz is well qualified to stand for and represent the ward for which she has been elected.

Labour are clutching at straws regarding the result. It's not
particularly odd that a new candidate should get a lower vote than
the established and experienced LibDem councillor who retained the
seat in May.
Liz made no secret of the fact that she used to live in the ward in Shaftesbury Road and had sold her home their. As a young couple her and her husband are temporarily living with her parents in Aldenham Road (hardly a long way away) whilst looking for a family home in central Watford. As the owner of the Cafe on the Corner in the centre of the ward in Queens Road, Lizz is well qualified to stand for and represent the ward for which she has been elected. Labour are clutching at straws regarding the result. It's not particularly odd that a new candidate should get a lower vote than the established and experienced LibDem councillor who retained the seat in May. Sara

10:47am Fri 16 Nov 12

mister says...

so under 1/4 of people actually voted - take away family and friends of the 5 candidates and party activists how many normal people actually voted... not many.... why? because who cares what clueless muppet sits in on the odd meeting and writes nonsense newsletters in their spare time?
so under 1/4 of people actually voted - take away family and friends of the 5 candidates and party activists how many normal people actually voted... not many.... why? because who cares what clueless muppet sits in on the odd meeting and writes nonsense newsletters in their spare time? mister

11:05am Fri 16 Nov 12

Bernard says...

1583 people voted- which is not bad for a November by election - it was cold damp day- and in May it was 27% turnout, but the Town Centre ward never has a high turnout due in part to the large number of flats and high population turnover.

And we dont just sit in meetings... now off to engage with Waitrose over there plans for a supernarket in the ward then to see the Housing trust iover their new housing plans.

Stephen Giles-Medhurst
County Councillor, Central Watford and Oxhey
1583 people voted- which is not bad for a November by election - it was cold damp day- and in May it was 27% turnout, but the Town Centre ward never has a high turnout due in part to the large number of flats and high population turnover. And we dont just sit in meetings... now off to engage with Waitrose over there plans for a supernarket in the ward then to see the Housing trust iover their new housing plans. Stephen Giles-Medhurst County Councillor, Central Watford and Oxhey Bernard

11:38am Fri 16 Nov 12

MaryWatford says...

I dont live in central so didnt see any of the leaflets, but I am not surpised by M Jacksons horrid comments on this page. When are labour going to wake up and see this man is ruining Labour in Watford? I have always been a Labour supporter in Watford as were my parents and my late husband, however since Mike Jackson has been in charge all elelctions stuff from labour have been nasty, petty and narrow minded. Where has the old Labour in Watford gone?.As the lady who won is a local business person lets hope she is in a good position to listen to the peope of central. But please Labour get rid of miserable Mike Jackson.
I dont live in central so didnt see any of the leaflets, but I am not surpised by M Jacksons horrid comments on this page. When are labour going to wake up and see this man is ruining Labour in Watford? I have always been a Labour supporter in Watford as were my parents and my late husband, however since Mike Jackson has been in charge all elelctions stuff from labour have been nasty, petty and narrow minded. Where has the old Labour in Watford gone?.As the lady who won is a local business person lets hope she is in a good position to listen to the peope of central. But please Labour get rid of miserable Mike Jackson. MaryWatford

11:45am Fri 16 Nov 12

Engineer1 says...

From what I hear I don't think anyone comes out of this with much credit.

Labour had 17% swing in MP by-elections today, and only 3% in Watford according to MJ1. Perhaps this makes the point that Watford Labour is less popular than national Labour?

I've said before, I'd consider voting Labour nationally because I think Ed Milliband would be a better PM than Cameron. But local Labour's attitude to people like Asif Khan puts people off.. It does me.

I do have friends in town centre and they said leaflets were very negative from Lab and Libs - and they got none from the others, so they didnt bother voting.
From what I hear I don't think anyone comes out of this with much credit. Labour had 17% swing in MP by-elections today, and only 3% in Watford according to MJ1. Perhaps this makes the point that Watford Labour is less popular than national Labour? I've said before, I'd consider voting Labour nationally because I think Ed Milliband would be a better PM than Cameron. But local Labour's attitude to people like Asif Khan puts people off.. It does me. I do have friends in town centre and they said leaflets were very negative from Lab and Libs - and they got none from the others, so they didnt bother voting. Engineer1

3:37pm Fri 16 Nov 12

phil mitchel says...

I see the whinging Lib Dems are playing the victim yet again, what a negative thinking, self pitying bunch they are.
P.S. what about Sal' is she still winning here ?
I see the whinging Lib Dems are playing the victim yet again, what a negative thinking, self pitying bunch they are. P.S. what about Sal' is she still winning here ? phil mitchel

4:37pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Arthur says...

MaryWatford wrote:
I dont live in central so didnt see any of the leaflets, but I am not surpised by M Jacksons horrid comments on this page. When are labour going to wake up and see this man is ruining Labour in Watford? I have always been a Labour supporter in Watford as were my parents and my late husband, however since Mike Jackson has been in charge all elelctions stuff from labour have been nasty, petty and narrow minded. Where has the old Labour in Watford gone?.As the lady who won is a local business person lets hope she is in a good position to listen to the peope of central. But please Labour get rid of miserable Mike Jackson.
"Where has all the old Labour in Watford gone?"
it's easy to answer that:
Firstly MJ1 drove them out, that is all those that Tony Blair didn't get to first with his illegal war

We could hope that the more sensible members of Watford Labour's inner circle will work out a way to rid themselves of the town's own Machiavelli
The results in Central speak for themselves
Only a 3% swing to Labour against 17% Nationally says it all
This ward would have been a cakewalk for Labour as it was up until 2000 under a different standard bearer
How about it WCLP, ditch him now and give yourselves the next General Election because sure as eggs is eggs this man only knows how to lose?
Desperation is never a good ally
[quote][p][bold]MaryWatford[/bold] wrote: I dont live in central so didnt see any of the leaflets, but I am not surpised by M Jacksons horrid comments on this page. When are labour going to wake up and see this man is ruining Labour in Watford? I have always been a Labour supporter in Watford as were my parents and my late husband, however since Mike Jackson has been in charge all elelctions stuff from labour have been nasty, petty and narrow minded. Where has the old Labour in Watford gone?.As the lady who won is a local business person lets hope she is in a good position to listen to the peope of central. But please Labour get rid of miserable Mike Jackson.[/p][/quote]"Where has all the old Labour in Watford gone?" it's easy to answer that: Firstly MJ1 drove them out, that is all those that Tony Blair didn't get to first with his illegal war We could hope that the more sensible members of Watford Labour's inner circle will work out a way to rid themselves of the town's own Machiavelli The results in Central speak for themselves Only a 3% swing to Labour against 17% Nationally says it all This ward would have been a cakewalk for Labour as it was up until 2000 under a different standard bearer How about it WCLP, ditch him now and give yourselves the next General Election because sure as eggs is eggs this man only knows how to lose? Desperation is never a good ally Arthur

7:04pm Fri 16 Nov 12

mister says...

no one votes coz no one cares
no one votes coz no one cares mister

10:16pm Fri 16 Nov 12

dontknowynot says...

Watford is a local gov citadel for the Libdems they have an overwhelming majorty on the council and it will take a lot of effort to change that.
Having seen the way the Libdems operate, I really see no alternative to being prepared to get your hands dirty.
I also only see one alternative to the Libdems in Local gov here and that is Labour.
Watford is a local gov citadel for the Libdems they have an overwhelming majorty on the council and it will take a lot of effort to change that. Having seen the way the Libdems operate, I really see no alternative to being prepared to get your hands dirty. I also only see one alternative to the Libdems in Local gov here and that is Labour. dontknowynot

10:27pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Arthur says...

dontknowynot wrote:
Watford is a local gov citadel for the Libdems they have an overwhelming majorty on the council and it will take a lot of effort to change that.
Having seen the way the Libdems operate, I really see no alternative to being prepared to get your hands dirty.
I also only see one alternative to the Libdems in Local gov here and that is Labour.
Labour had an overwhelming majority not that long ago MJ1 started the rot when Woodside voters booted him out
[quote][p][bold]dontknowynot[/bold] wrote: Watford is a local gov citadel for the Libdems they have an overwhelming majorty on the council and it will take a lot of effort to change that. Having seen the way the Libdems operate, I really see no alternative to being prepared to get your hands dirty. I also only see one alternative to the Libdems in Local gov here and that is Labour.[/p][/quote]Labour had an overwhelming majority not that long ago MJ1 started the rot when Woodside voters booted him out Arthur

10:29pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Sara says...

That's a strange comment, because on polling day Labour delivered a leaflet saying the election was a two horse race between themselves and the Conservatives. Maybe you should share your wisdom with your colleagues...
That's a strange comment, because on polling day Labour delivered a leaflet saying the election was a two horse race between themselves and the Conservatives. Maybe you should share your wisdom with your colleagues... Sara

10:50pm Fri 16 Nov 12

LSC says...

"Firstly MJ1 drove them out, that is all those that Tony Blair didn't get to first with his illegal war"

I so hate that phrase 'illegal war'. It is so melodramatic.

Name me ONE legal war. In history. Ever.
"Firstly MJ1 drove them out, that is all those that Tony Blair didn't get to first with his illegal war" I so hate that phrase 'illegal war'. It is so melodramatic. Name me ONE legal war. In history. Ever. LSC

1:33am Sat 17 Nov 12

MJ1 says...

MaryWatford wrote:
I dont live in central so didnt see any of the leaflets, but I am not surpised by M Jacksons horrid comments on this page. When are labour going to wake up and see this man is ruining Labour in Watford? I have always been a Labour supporter in Watford as were my parents and my late husband, however since Mike Jackson has been in charge all elelctions stuff from labour have been nasty, petty and narrow minded. Where has the old Labour in Watford gone?.As the lady who won is a local business person lets hope she is in a good position to listen to the peope of central. But please Labour get rid of miserable Mike Jackson.
Well 'Mary' it is easy to take take coward's way and attack someone when hiding behind a pseudonym. You are no Labour person. Perhaps you should enroll of a few spelling and grammatical lessons as well as adopting a few moral principles.
[quote][p][bold]MaryWatford[/bold] wrote: I dont live in central so didnt see any of the leaflets, but I am not surpised by M Jacksons horrid comments on this page. When are labour going to wake up and see this man is ruining Labour in Watford? I have always been a Labour supporter in Watford as were my parents and my late husband, however since Mike Jackson has been in charge all elelctions stuff from labour have been nasty, petty and narrow minded. Where has the old Labour in Watford gone?.As the lady who won is a local business person lets hope she is in a good position to listen to the peope of central. But please Labour get rid of miserable Mike Jackson.[/p][/quote]Well 'Mary' it is easy to take take coward's way and attack someone when hiding behind a pseudonym. You are no Labour person. Perhaps you should enroll of a few spelling and grammatical lessons as well as adopting a few moral principles. MJ1

1:39am Sat 17 Nov 12

MJ1 says...

Sara wrote:
Liz made no secret of the fact that she used to live in the ward in Shaftesbury Road and had sold her home their. As a young couple her and her husband are temporarily living with her parents in Aldenham Road (hardly a long way away) whilst looking for a family home
in central Watford.

As the owner of the Cafe on the Corner in the centre of the ward in
Queens Road, Lizz is well qualified to stand for and represent the ward for which she has been elected.

Labour are clutching at straws regarding the result. It's not
particularly odd that a new candidate should get a lower vote than
the established and experienced LibDem councillor who retained the
seat in May.
Of course she made a secret (Sara Bedford Lib Dem Councillor). your candidate was forced to confess on the final day that she really lived in Hertsmere and not Watford. There's no shame in that but why not admit it from day one rather than trying to hoodwink the electorate and the Watford Observer by lying about living in the ward. How can you trust someone who also dupes two local people into having their pics taken without telling them why and then making up quotes that they never said - backing you. Disgraceful!
[quote][p][bold]Sara[/bold] wrote: Liz made no secret of the fact that she used to live in the ward in Shaftesbury Road and had sold her home their. As a young couple her and her husband are temporarily living with her parents in Aldenham Road (hardly a long way away) whilst looking for a family home in central Watford. As the owner of the Cafe on the Corner in the centre of the ward in Queens Road, Lizz is well qualified to stand for and represent the ward for which she has been elected. Labour are clutching at straws regarding the result. It's not particularly odd that a new candidate should get a lower vote than the established and experienced LibDem councillor who retained the seat in May.[/p][/quote]Of course she made a secret (Sara Bedford Lib Dem Councillor). your candidate was forced to confess on the final day that she really lived in Hertsmere and not Watford. There's no shame in that but why not admit it from day one rather than trying to hoodwink the electorate and the Watford Observer by lying about living in the ward. How can you trust someone who also dupes two local people into having their pics taken without telling them why and then making up quotes that they never said - backing you. Disgraceful! MJ1

1:43am Sat 17 Nov 12

MJ1 says...

Arthur wrote:
MaryWatford wrote:
I dont live in central so didnt see any of the leaflets, but I am not surpised by M Jacksons horrid comments on this page. When are labour going to wake up and see this man is ruining Labour in Watford? I have always been a Labour supporter in Watford as were my parents and my late husband, however since Mike Jackson has been in charge all elelctions stuff from labour have been nasty, petty and narrow minded. Where has the old Labour in Watford gone?.As the lady who won is a local business person lets hope she is in a good position to listen to the peope of central. But please Labour get rid of miserable Mike Jackson.
"Where has all the old Labour in Watford gone?"
it's easy to answer that:
Firstly MJ1 drove them out, that is all those that Tony Blair didn't get to first with his illegal war

We could hope that the more sensible members of Watford Labour's inner circle will work out a way to rid themselves of the town's own Machiavelli
The results in Central speak for themselves
Only a 3% swing to Labour against 17% Nationally says it all
This ward would have been a cakewalk for Labour as it was up until 2000 under a different standard bearer
How about it WCLP, ditch him now and give yourselves the next General Election because sure as eggs is eggs this man only knows how to lose?
Desperation is never a good ally
Well Mr Lowery and 'Mary' - or are you the same poisonous coward. Perhaps you should tell people what your real grudge is about- or maybe I should tell the story for you.
[quote][p][bold]Arthur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MaryWatford[/bold] wrote: I dont live in central so didnt see any of the leaflets, but I am not surpised by M Jacksons horrid comments on this page. When are labour going to wake up and see this man is ruining Labour in Watford? I have always been a Labour supporter in Watford as were my parents and my late husband, however since Mike Jackson has been in charge all elelctions stuff from labour have been nasty, petty and narrow minded. Where has the old Labour in Watford gone?.As the lady who won is a local business person lets hope she is in a good position to listen to the peope of central. But please Labour get rid of miserable Mike Jackson.[/p][/quote]"Where has all the old Labour in Watford gone?" it's easy to answer that: Firstly MJ1 drove them out, that is all those that Tony Blair didn't get to first with his illegal war We could hope that the more sensible members of Watford Labour's inner circle will work out a way to rid themselves of the town's own Machiavelli The results in Central speak for themselves Only a 3% swing to Labour against 17% Nationally says it all This ward would have been a cakewalk for Labour as it was up until 2000 under a different standard bearer How about it WCLP, ditch him now and give yourselves the next General Election because sure as eggs is eggs this man only knows how to lose? Desperation is never a good ally[/p][/quote]Well Mr Lowery and 'Mary' - or are you the same poisonous coward. Perhaps you should tell people what your real grudge is about- or maybe I should tell the story for you. MJ1

9:53am Sat 17 Nov 12

Honest Rog says...

My word, what a load of brown tongueing by the usual liars of Lib Dims. You've had a good (for you) run in control of Town Hall but the cracks are appearing no matter how Medhurst and chums try to paper over. It's just a matter of time. Maybe the woman from Cambridge could save you. Oops. forgot, the voters of Watford rejected her.
My word, what a load of brown tongueing by the usual liars of Lib Dims. You've had a good (for you) run in control of Town Hall but the cracks are appearing no matter how Medhurst and chums try to paper over. It's just a matter of time. Maybe the woman from Cambridge could save you. Oops. forgot, the voters of Watford rejected her. Honest Rog

10:44am Sat 17 Nov 12

scarecrow says...

John Howard Norfolk wrote:
MJ1 wrote: 3% swing to Labour since May. Liberal Democrat majority down from 284 to 166. Tory down by 1%. Not bad given the misrepresentation by the Liberal Democrats, claiming that their candidate lived in Central Ward whilst being forced to confess on the eve of poll that she lived in Hertsmere. Avril Haley was a great first time candidate - creating the basis for a Labour gain in 2014. Well done Avril
This business of living outside the ward boundary is unimportant. A great many of us regard ourselves as "Watford residents" with work, school and family commitments within the town boundaries and yet the street where we live may be in Three Rivers or Hertsmere and perhaps far closer to Watford Town Hall than either Ricky or Borehamwood!
Yes...living out of the area is not an issue......the whole issue was about the LIE... that she lived in the Central Ward, when clearly she didn't, not the first time the Lib-dems have lied !
[quote][p][bold]John Howard Norfolk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MJ1[/bold] wrote: 3% swing to Labour since May. Liberal Democrat majority down from 284 to 166. Tory down by 1%. Not bad given the misrepresentation by the Liberal Democrats, claiming that their candidate lived in Central Ward whilst being forced to confess on the eve of poll that she lived in Hertsmere. Avril Haley was a great first time candidate - creating the basis for a Labour gain in 2014. Well done Avril[/p][/quote]This business of living outside the ward boundary is unimportant. A great many of us regard ourselves as "Watford residents" with work, school and family commitments within the town boundaries and yet the street where we live may be in Three Rivers or Hertsmere and perhaps far closer to Watford Town Hall than either Ricky or Borehamwood![/p][/quote]Yes...living out of the area is not an issue......the whole issue was about the LIE... that she lived in the Central Ward, when clearly she didn't, not the first time the Lib-dems have lied ! scarecrow

11:21am Sat 17 Nov 12

Reg Edit says...

So the Lib Dems and Labour both campaign dirty.

Whilst pretty low standards seem to prevail in both parties, we shouldn't be surprised because it has been documented time and again how they both lie to get personal advantage.

I wouldn't go near either party with a barge-pole.
So the Lib Dems and Labour both campaign dirty. Whilst pretty low standards seem to prevail in both parties, we shouldn't be surprised because it has been documented time and again how they both lie to get personal advantage. I wouldn't go near either party with a barge-pole. Reg Edit

11:22am Sat 17 Nov 12

MJ1 says...

scarecrow wrote:
John Howard Norfolk wrote:
MJ1 wrote: 3% swing to Labour since May. Liberal Democrat majority down from 284 to 166. Tory down by 1%. Not bad given the misrepresentation by the Liberal Democrats, claiming that their candidate lived in Central Ward whilst being forced to confess on the eve of poll that she lived in Hertsmere. Avril Haley was a great first time candidate - creating the basis for a Labour gain in 2014. Well done Avril
This business of living outside the ward boundary is unimportant. A great many of us regard ourselves as "Watford residents" with work, school and family commitments within the town boundaries and yet the street where we live may be in Three Rivers or Hertsmere and perhaps far closer to Watford Town Hall than either Ricky or Borehamwood!
Yes...living out of the area is not an issue......the whole issue was about the LIE... that she lived in the Central Ward, when clearly she didn't, not the first time the Lib-dems have lied !
Want the full story.Go to www.watfordlabour.or
g.uk and click on Lib Dem watch.
[quote][p][bold]scarecrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Howard Norfolk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MJ1[/bold] wrote: 3% swing to Labour since May. Liberal Democrat majority down from 284 to 166. Tory down by 1%. Not bad given the misrepresentation by the Liberal Democrats, claiming that their candidate lived in Central Ward whilst being forced to confess on the eve of poll that she lived in Hertsmere. Avril Haley was a great first time candidate - creating the basis for a Labour gain in 2014. Well done Avril[/p][/quote]This business of living outside the ward boundary is unimportant. A great many of us regard ourselves as "Watford residents" with work, school and family commitments within the town boundaries and yet the street where we live may be in Three Rivers or Hertsmere and perhaps far closer to Watford Town Hall than either Ricky or Borehamwood![/p][/quote]Yes...living out of the area is not an issue......the whole issue was about the LIE... that she lived in the Central Ward, when clearly she didn't, not the first time the Lib-dems have lied ![/p][/quote]Want the full story.Go to www.watfordlabour.or g.uk and click on Lib Dem watch. MJ1

11:24am Sat 17 Nov 12

MJ1 says...

Reg Edit wrote:
So the Lib Dems and Labour both campaign dirty.

Whilst pretty low standards seem to prevail in both parties, we shouldn't be surprised because it has been documented time and again how they both lie to get personal advantage.

I wouldn't go near either party with a barge-pole.
And just remind us. How many votes did UKIP get?
[quote][p][bold]Reg Edit[/bold] wrote: So the Lib Dems and Labour both campaign dirty. Whilst pretty low standards seem to prevail in both parties, we shouldn't be surprised because it has been documented time and again how they both lie to get personal advantage. I wouldn't go near either party with a barge-pole.[/p][/quote]And just remind us. How many votes did UKIP get? MJ1

12:24pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Steve, Abbots Langley says...

Sadly Councillor Giles-Medhurst doesn't give us the full facts about the election two years ago. That was occassioned by the Lib Dem councillor flying off to Florida but still managing to claim her councillor's allowance.
Sadly Councillor Giles-Medhurst doesn't give us the full facts about the election two years ago. That was occassioned by the Lib Dem councillor flying off to Florida but still managing to claim her councillor's allowance. Steve, Abbots Langley

6:20pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Reg Edit says...

MJ1 wrote:
Reg Edit wrote:
So the Lib Dems and Labour both campaign dirty.

Whilst pretty low standards seem to prevail in both parties, we shouldn't be surprised because it has been documented time and again how they both lie to get personal advantage.

I wouldn't go near either party with a barge-pole.
And just remind us. How many votes did UKIP get?
Mike,

are you saying the end justifies the means?

How sad.
[quote][p][bold]MJ1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reg Edit[/bold] wrote: So the Lib Dems and Labour both campaign dirty. Whilst pretty low standards seem to prevail in both parties, we shouldn't be surprised because it has been documented time and again how they both lie to get personal advantage. I wouldn't go near either party with a barge-pole.[/p][/quote]And just remind us. How many votes did UKIP get?[/p][/quote]Mike, are you saying the end justifies the means? How sad. Reg Edit

9:52am Sun 18 Nov 12

pc49plod says...

Took MJ1's advice and had a look at the Wat Lab website and jolly interesting it is. Seems like MJ and his jolly band have been staking out ordinary people's homes or at worst stalking an ordinary citizen. You have been warned..... 'You are being watched by Watford Labour'. Mind you this wouldn't be the first time they've done it.
Took MJ1's advice and had a look at the Wat Lab website and jolly interesting it is. Seems like MJ and his jolly band have been staking out ordinary people's homes or at worst stalking an ordinary citizen. You have been warned..... 'You are being watched by Watford Labour'. Mind you this wouldn't be the first time they've done it. pc49plod

12:27pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Reg Edit says...

Everybody but the Labour party was surprised when the national Labour government tried to roll out a police state in the form of ID cards and draconian terror/detention laws.

We were lucky, they were kicked out before they managed to impose all this. Next time, if there is a next time, we may not be so lucky.

The Conservatives may be incompetent in many ways, yet in others, such as education, they are outstanding. We should all be grateful they have abandoned Labour's "Big brother" projects.

Labour are a disgrace, and MJ seems to be in keeping with that. I'm only surprised they have so many people willing to give them a second chance and vote for them after the last time.

UKIP are gaining disaffected Labour supporters, both locally and nationally. I'm just surprised it's not a flood.
Everybody but the Labour party was surprised when the national Labour government tried to roll out a police state in the form of ID cards and draconian terror/detention laws. We were lucky, they were kicked out before they managed to impose all this. Next time, if there is a next time, we may not be so lucky. The Conservatives may be incompetent in many ways, yet in others, such as education, they are outstanding. We should all be grateful they have abandoned Labour's "Big brother" projects. Labour are a disgrace, and MJ seems to be in keeping with that. I'm only surprised they have so many people willing to give them a second chance and vote for them after the last time. UKIP are gaining disaffected Labour supporters, both locally and nationally. I'm just surprised it's not a flood. Reg Edit

2:44pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Reg Edit says...

....yet
....yet Reg Edit

9:19pm Sun 18 Nov 12

MaryWatford says...

MJ1 wrong on so many levels.
MJ1 wrong on so many levels. MaryWatford

5:58pm Tue 20 Nov 12

thedarkside says...

Another pointless councillor to be paid far too much in allowances, in an election with a catastrophic turnout. How much do the politicians in the Council cost us? Do we really get value for money?
Another pointless councillor to be paid far too much in allowances, in an election with a catastrophic turnout. How much do the politicians in the Council cost us? Do we really get value for money? thedarkside

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