Votes being counted to decide who will be Hertfordshire’s first ever Police Crime Commissioner.

Votes have begun to be counted to decide who will be Hertfordshire’s first ever Police Crime Commissioner.

The four candidates - David Lloyd (Conservative), Sherma Batson (Labour), Christopher Townsend (Lib Dem) and Marion Mason (UKIP) - face a nervous wait to hear who has secured the £75,000 per year role.

The successful candidate will be expected to scrutinise the force on behalf the electorate and will have the power to dismiss the chief constable.

Voter turnout in the county was 14.5 per cent with just 9,374 people going to the polls in Watford (13.54 per cent), 17,435 people in St Albans (16.4 per cent), 9,259 people in Hertsmere (12.3 per cent) and 15,091 in Dacorum (13.74 per cent).

The count, at Ware, began at 11am and the first round of results are expected at around 2pm however second preference votes must then be counted so a final result could be significantly later than that.

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12:01pm Fri 16 Nov 12

TRT says...

I didn't vote, but I now wish I had gone to the polling station simply in order to spoil my ballot, because I'm now hearing on the BBC news etc. that the reason people didn't turn out was because it was a dismal November day, or because they didn't get a leaflet through the door. At least a spoiled paper would have counted as a protest vote.

I researched what the PCCs do, who the candidates were and what their policies were, and I decided that PCCs actually offer a worse solution to police management than the current/previous system of police authorities which (quote) make sure local people have a say in how they are policed and they hold the chief police officer to account for the services the police force deliver to local people. (unquote)

The money spent on these elections could have kept 1000s of extra bobbies on the beat. Pointless exercise. Is this supposed to be a democracy? Just point me to the spot where the people were asked if they wanted this change?
I didn't vote, but I now wish I had gone to the polling station simply in order to spoil my ballot, because I'm now hearing on the BBC news etc. that the reason people didn't turn out was because it was a dismal November day, or because they didn't get a leaflet through the door. At least a spoiled paper would have counted as a protest vote. I researched what the PCCs do, who the candidates were and what their policies were, and I decided that PCCs actually offer a worse solution to police management than the current/previous system of police authorities which (quote) make sure local people have a say in how they are policed and they hold the chief police officer to account for the services the police force deliver to local people. (unquote) The money spent on these elections could have kept 1000s of extra bobbies on the beat. Pointless exercise. Is this supposed to be a democracy? Just point me to the spot where the people were asked if they wanted this change? TRT
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12:29pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Nascot says...

Spoiling you paper would have counted as turnout. Keeping it low by not voting at all sends a bigger signal to those people who dreamed up this harebrained scheme
Spoiling you paper would have counted as turnout. Keeping it low by not voting at all sends a bigger signal to those people who dreamed up this harebrained scheme Nascot
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12:32pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Reg Edit says...

Point me to the spot where the people were asked if they wanted to join the EU.

That's the trouble with today's politicians, you vote for them and then they think they can do what they like, even if it is against the interests of the people or the country.

That's why I support UKIP, a breath of fresh air and a new and better way of doing politics.
Point me to the spot where the people were asked if they wanted to join the EU. That's the trouble with today's politicians, you vote for them and then they think they can do what they like, even if it is against the interests of the people or the country. That's why I support UKIP, a breath of fresh air and a new and better way of doing politics. Reg Edit
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12:41pm Fri 16 Nov 12

TRT says...

Nascot wrote:
Spoiling you paper would have counted as turnout. Keeping it low by not voting at all sends a bigger signal to those people who dreamed up this harebrained scheme
That's what I thought, but I've heard various pundits making ridiculous excuses about lack of information, voter apathy and the cold; anything other than that the scheme is harebrained and unwanted. Now if they have put a ballot box on for retaining the current committee composed of residents and councillors etc, then I would have voted.
[quote][p][bold]Nascot[/bold] wrote: Spoiling you paper would have counted as turnout. Keeping it low by not voting at all sends a bigger signal to those people who dreamed up this harebrained scheme[/p][/quote]That's what I thought, but I've heard various pundits making ridiculous excuses about lack of information, voter apathy and the cold; anything other than that the scheme is harebrained and unwanted. Now if they have put a ballot box on for retaining the current committee composed of residents and councillors etc, then I would have voted. TRT
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2:10pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Pieboy says...

Reg Edit wrote:
Point me to the spot where the people were asked if they wanted to join the EU.

That's the trouble with today's politicians, you vote for them and then they think they can do what they like, even if it is against the interests of the people or the country.

That's why I support UKIP, a breath of fresh air and a new and better way of doing politics.
Totally agree Reg. It's a shame not more people see that the "big 3" just spout the same nonsense, and say what people want to hear. Hopefully in time people will catch onto this breath of fresh air.
[quote][p][bold]Reg Edit[/bold] wrote: Point me to the spot where the people were asked if they wanted to join the EU. That's the trouble with today's politicians, you vote for them and then they think they can do what they like, even if it is against the interests of the people or the country. That's why I support UKIP, a breath of fresh air and a new and better way of doing politics.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Reg. It's a shame not more people see that the "big 3" just spout the same nonsense, and say what people want to hear. Hopefully in time people will catch onto this breath of fresh air. Pieboy
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8:21pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Nascot says...

Reg Edit wrote:
Point me to the spot where the people were asked if they wanted to join the EU.

That's the trouble with today's politicians, you vote for them and then they think they can do what they like, even if it is against the interests of the people or the country.

That's why I support UKIP, a breath of fresh air and a new and better way of doing politics.
There was a vote back in the 70's as to whether we stayed in. Oh how I bet those that did are regretting it now.
[quote][p][bold]Reg Edit[/bold] wrote: Point me to the spot where the people were asked if they wanted to join the EU. That's the trouble with today's politicians, you vote for them and then they think they can do what they like, even if it is against the interests of the people or the country. That's why I support UKIP, a breath of fresh air and a new and better way of doing politics.[/p][/quote]There was a vote back in the 70's as to whether we stayed in. Oh how I bet those that did are regretting it now. Nascot
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