Conservative David Lloyd becomes Hertfordshire's first police and crime commissioner

Conservative David Lloyd has won the election to become Hertfordshire’s first police and crime commissioner.

The former chairman of Hertfordshire Police Authority won in the second round voting following yesterday’s election.

The election was decided by the supplementary voting system, in which voters select a first and second choice.

To win a candidate has to get more than 50 per cent of the vote. If no one does this on the first preference votes, all but the top two are eliminated and the second preference votes are counted.

Mr Lloyd won 46 per cent of the first preference votes putting him within touching distance of the finish. He was then pushed over the 50 per cent mark on second preference votes.

Labour’s Sherma Batson went up against him in the second round after coming second in the first round with 29 per cent.

Liberal Democrat candidate Christopher Townsend was eliminated after the first round after coming third with 14 per cent, as was UKIP’s Marion Mason on 11 per cent.

Mr Lloyd’s victory means he will oversee Hertfordshire Constabulary for the next four years. He will have power over the forces budget and can hire and fire the chief constable.

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2:38pm Fri 16 Nov 12

TRT says...

Ironic that this news is coming in interlaced with an emerging story about an attempted robbery at The Harlequin.
Ironic that this news is coming in interlaced with an emerging story about an attempted robbery at The Harlequin. TRT

3:21pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Nascot says...

Total votes in Hertfordshire = 119,158
Turnout = 14.1%
Therefore Electorate = 845,092

46% of votes = 58,812
Support for 'Winner' = 6.9%

He can hardly say he is representing the people!.
Total votes in Hertfordshire = 119,158 Turnout = 14.1% Therefore Electorate = 845,092 46% of votes = 58,812 Support for 'Winner' = 6.9% He can hardly say he is representing the people!. Nascot

3:28pm Fri 16 Nov 12

TRT says...

You can bet the policing policy will now focus on areas he believes will win him the £75k pa job again in 3/4 years time, rather than addressing the concerns of minorities who will now have no representation. The previous system held the chief constable accountable to a panel of 17 made up from a cross section of different locations and social groups. Did I reject democracy when I refused to vote? Well only if you consider it democratic to have the system changed without asking the people if they want it changed! Why couldn't we have voted for the chair of the existing police authority committees if the powers that be wanted greater democracy in the system?
You can bet the policing policy will now focus on areas he believes will win him the £75k pa job again in 3/4 years time, rather than addressing the concerns of minorities who will now have no representation. The previous system held the chief constable accountable to a panel of 17 made up from a cross section of different locations and social groups. Did I reject democracy when I refused to vote? Well only if you consider it democratic to have the system changed without asking the people if they want it changed! Why couldn't we have voted for the chair of the existing police authority committees if the powers that be wanted greater democracy in the system? TRT

5:12pm Fri 16 Nov 12

pippadog says...

Nascot wrote:
Total votes in Hertfordshire = 119,158
Turnout = 14.1%
Therefore Electorate = 845,092

46% of votes = 58,812
Support for 'Winner' = 6.9%

He can hardly say he is representing the people!.
Shame that the other 86% didn't bother to vote, would that have made Nascot happier?
Under our system, only votes cast count, perhaps Nascot has a cleverer idea? Or perhaps not.
[quote][p][bold]Nascot[/bold] wrote: Total votes in Hertfordshire = 119,158 Turnout = 14.1% Therefore Electorate = 845,092 46% of votes = 58,812 Support for 'Winner' = 6.9% He can hardly say he is representing the people!.[/p][/quote]Shame that the other 86% didn't bother to vote, would that have made Nascot happier? Under our system, only votes cast count, perhaps Nascot has a cleverer idea? Or perhaps not. pippadog

8:28pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Nascot says...

pippadog wrote:
Nascot wrote:
Total votes in Hertfordshire = 119,158
Turnout = 14.1%
Therefore Electorate = 845,092

46% of votes = 58,812
Support for 'Winner' = 6.9%

He can hardly say he is representing the people!.
Shame that the other 86% didn't bother to vote, would that have made Nascot happier?
Under our system, only votes cast count, perhaps Nascot has a cleverer idea? Or perhaps not.
Vote for what? A political appointment that no one wanted? £75m- £100m spent on this charade which could quite easiliy have been put to better use elsewhere. How about employing more police officers? Do you realise that one of their responsibilities is to decide on police priorities?

Here's my idea....... Tackle crime. There we are, no charge. That saves the county £70k a year
[quote][p][bold]pippadog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nascot[/bold] wrote: Total votes in Hertfordshire = 119,158 Turnout = 14.1% Therefore Electorate = 845,092 46% of votes = 58,812 Support for 'Winner' = 6.9% He can hardly say he is representing the people!.[/p][/quote]Shame that the other 86% didn't bother to vote, would that have made Nascot happier? Under our system, only votes cast count, perhaps Nascot has a cleverer idea? Or perhaps not.[/p][/quote]Vote for what? A political appointment that no one wanted? £75m- £100m spent on this charade which could quite easiliy have been put to better use elsewhere. How about employing more police officers? Do you realise that one of their responsibilities is to decide on police priorities? Here's my idea....... Tackle crime. There we are, no charge. That saves the county £70k a year Nascot

9:28pm Fri 16 Nov 12

JohnnyHornet says...

pippadog wrote:
Nascot wrote:
Total votes in Hertfordshire = 119,158
Turnout = 14.1%
Therefore Electorate = 845,092

46% of votes = 58,812
Support for 'Winner' = 6.9%

He can hardly say he is representing the people!.
Shame that the other 86% didn't bother to vote, would that have made Nascot happier?
Under our system, only votes cast count, perhaps Nascot has a cleverer idea? Or perhaps not.
No one can complain, it's simple get off your butts and vote or keep it shut......you get what you ( don't ) vote for.
[quote][p][bold]pippadog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nascot[/bold] wrote: Total votes in Hertfordshire = 119,158 Turnout = 14.1% Therefore Electorate = 845,092 46% of votes = 58,812 Support for 'Winner' = 6.9% He can hardly say he is representing the people!.[/p][/quote]Shame that the other 86% didn't bother to vote, would that have made Nascot happier? Under our system, only votes cast count, perhaps Nascot has a cleverer idea? Or perhaps not.[/p][/quote]No one can complain, it's simple get off your butts and vote or keep it shut......you get what you ( don't ) vote for. JohnnyHornet

10:10pm Fri 16 Nov 12

LSC says...

JohnnyHornet wrote:
pippadog wrote:
Nascot wrote:
Total votes in Hertfordshire = 119,158
Turnout = 14.1%
Therefore Electorate = 845,092

46% of votes = 58,812
Support for 'Winner' = 6.9%

He can hardly say he is representing the people!.
Shame that the other 86% didn't bother to vote, would that have made Nascot happier?
Under our system, only votes cast count, perhaps Nascot has a cleverer idea? Or perhaps not.
No one can complain, it's simple get off your butts and vote or keep it shut......you get what you ( don't ) vote for.
Where was my opportunity to vote to keep things as they were?

I don't want a PCC, so I didn't vote for one. Whoever won this election got the job; so I couldn't have even run for office myself and returned to a panel system, the budget wouldn't allow for my wages plus a panel.

And if I'd won, introduced a panel and then stood down, they'd run another election for a PCC who would disolve the panel.

This is NOT democracy.
[quote][p][bold]JohnnyHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pippadog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nascot[/bold] wrote: Total votes in Hertfordshire = 119,158 Turnout = 14.1% Therefore Electorate = 845,092 46% of votes = 58,812 Support for 'Winner' = 6.9% He can hardly say he is representing the people!.[/p][/quote]Shame that the other 86% didn't bother to vote, would that have made Nascot happier? Under our system, only votes cast count, perhaps Nascot has a cleverer idea? Or perhaps not.[/p][/quote]No one can complain, it's simple get off your butts and vote or keep it shut......you get what you ( don't ) vote for.[/p][/quote]Where was my opportunity to vote to keep things as they were? I don't want a PCC, so I didn't vote for one. Whoever won this election got the job; so I couldn't have even run for office myself and returned to a panel system, the budget wouldn't allow for my wages plus a panel. And if I'd won, introduced a panel and then stood down, they'd run another election for a PCC who would disolve the panel. This is NOT democracy. LSC

10:30pm Fri 16 Nov 12

kingofpop says...

WOW!!! Have to agree that this is a massive waste of money, yet another " non job " has been created where there was no need to do it and the money could of been better spent, ie take the lowest estimate of 75 million and use it to fund more police, not some tool who basically does what a police chief does anyway.
WOW!!! Have to agree that this is a massive waste of money, yet another " non job " has been created where there was no need to do it and the money could of been better spent, ie take the lowest estimate of 75 million and use it to fund more police, not some tool who basically does what a police chief does anyway. kingofpop

9:17pm Sat 17 Nov 12

WatfordAlex says...

Next headline will surely be: "Conservative David Lloyd is Hertfordshire's first AND LAST police and crime commissioner". Can't see the next Government keeping this nonsense post.
Next headline will surely be: "Conservative David Lloyd is Hertfordshire's first AND LAST police and crime commissioner". Can't see the next Government keeping this nonsense post. WatfordAlex

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