Police release CCTV image following assault in Beechen Grove, Watford

Police release CCTV image following assault in town centre

Police release CCTV image following assault in town centre

First published in News Watford Observer: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Reporter

Police have released the CCTV image of four men they want to speak to after a pair were attacked in Watford town centre.

Officers said a man in his 20s and a friend were walking along Beechen Grove, near to the junction in Loates Lane, at around 3am on Saturday when they were assaulted.

One of the men was hit in the back of the head causing him to fall.

The attackers then made off towards the town centre.

PC Lauren Shipman said: "I am appealing to anyone who may recognise the people pictured to contact police with information. I am also appealing to two men who stopped and spoke to the victim and his friend.

"Both men are described as white, in their early 20s. One of the men was walking a dog. I am appealing to these men to get in contact with us, as they can help with our investigation."

Anyone with information is asked contact PC Lauren Shipman on 01923 472426 or via the Herts Police non-emergency number 101.

Alternatively Crimestoppers can be called anonymously on 0800 555 111.

 

 

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3:18pm Mon 24 Dec 12

gasguzzler says...

A racist attack if ever there was one.
A racist attack if ever there was one. gasguzzler
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3:41pm Mon 24 Dec 12

OAC Bailiff says...

i hope they catch the low life scum
i hope they catch the low life scum OAC Bailiff
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3:51pm Mon 24 Dec 12

Boosey says...

I wish i'd just walked round the corner and seen the attack, would have made my day to steam into the cowards.
I wish i'd just walked round the corner and seen the attack, would have made my day to steam into the cowards. Boosey
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5:11pm Mon 24 Dec 12

LSC says...

I can't quite make out the Purple Flag in the picture.
I can't quite make out the Purple Flag in the picture. LSC
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5:45pm Mon 24 Dec 12

mc77 says...

gasguzzler wrote:
A racist attack if ever there was one.
Eh? Because the perpetrators appear to be black or mixed race?
I think you'll find if you read the report again you would see that they are appealing to 2 white men in their 20s who witnessed the assault. But judging by your dim-witted response, you might have trouble with that....
[quote][p][bold]gasguzzler[/bold] wrote: A racist attack if ever there was one.[/p][/quote]Eh? Because the perpetrators appear to be black or mixed race? I think you'll find if you read the report again you would see that they are appealing to 2 white men in their 20s who witnessed the assault. But judging by your dim-witted response, you might have trouble with that.... mc77
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5:46pm Mon 24 Dec 12

Studholme Berkeley says...

I think it's possible these four were also hanging around the Town Hall underpass at Sunday lunchtime.

Two of them were hanging around the Library area, and the other two were standing by the tunnel entrance with their mobile phones.
I think it's possible these four were also hanging around the Town Hall underpass at Sunday lunchtime. Two of them were hanging around the Library area, and the other two were standing by the tunnel entrance with their mobile phones. Studholme Berkeley
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10:41pm Mon 24 Dec 12

Mohandas says...

I suppose if they wore football scarves it would help those who like to stereotype them with easy and get the possee out and no questions asked until you've nailed them. As 2013 nears, just scratch the surface we are still judge and jury like WCA.
I suppose if they wore football scarves it would help those who like to stereotype them with easy and get the possee out and no questions asked until you've nailed them. As 2013 nears, just scratch the surface we are still judge and jury like WCA. Mohandas
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10:42am Tue 25 Dec 12

Razor Sharp says...

gasguzzler wrote:
A racist attack if ever there was one.
With the limited information available, it's too early to state that the attack was racially motivated.

There's no mention of theft or robbery. Perhaps the perpetrators and victim knew each other, had history or had exchanges before the attack or it could have been gang related or a case of mistaken identity or some form gang related initiation or drugs related or a random act of violence for 'fun'. There are so many possibilities.

If the four in the picture were the perpetrators and intent on a violent night out, why didn't they wear hoodies and/or baseball caps. That appears to be the usual form to evade identification across the board, irrespective of their race. The UK wide riots are a case in point. With so many CCTV cameras in Town, why make it easy to be detected?

A racially motivated attack cannot be ruled out, or it could have been an aggravating factor, but equally it could have been a random act, or as stated above.

It's easy to say that one would "steam in", but the consequences could be fatal.

I remember being on a night out a number of years back in Watford with a friend who knew some other, shall we say, random characters. They were actively looking for a fight, urinating in public, and hitting someone over the head with a bottle was normal form. Fortunately, I did not witness any crime, since the Police response in the town centre was good. Suffice to say, I didn't meet those characters again. So, random acts do happen and sometimes for no real reason. It's the society we live in.
[quote][p][bold]gasguzzler[/bold] wrote: A racist attack if ever there was one.[/p][/quote]With the limited information available, it's too early to state that the attack was racially motivated. There's no mention of theft or robbery. Perhaps the perpetrators and victim knew each other, had history or had exchanges before the attack or it could have been gang related or a case of mistaken identity or some form gang related initiation or drugs related or a random act of violence for 'fun'. There are so many possibilities. If the four in the picture were the perpetrators and intent on a violent night out, why didn't they wear hoodies and/or baseball caps. That appears to be the usual form to evade identification across the board, irrespective of their race. The UK wide riots are a case in point. With so many CCTV cameras in Town, why make it easy to be detected? A racially motivated attack cannot be ruled out, or it could have been an aggravating factor, but equally it could have been a random act, or as stated above. It's easy to say that one would "steam in", but the consequences could be fatal. I remember being on a night out a number of years back in Watford with a friend who knew some other, shall we say, random characters. They were actively looking for a fight, urinating in public, and hitting someone over the head with a bottle was normal form. Fortunately, I did not witness any crime, since the Police response in the town centre was good. Suffice to say, I didn't meet those characters again. So, random acts do happen and sometimes for no real reason. It's the society we live in. Razor Sharp
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12:04pm Tue 25 Dec 12

pepsiman says...

At last, an image you can see instead of the usual black/white grains. Should be able to get the scum but the courts doing anything about it is another story...............
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At last, an image you can see instead of the usual black/white grains. Should be able to get the scum but the courts doing anything about it is another story............... . pepsiman
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6:37pm Tue 25 Dec 12

Keefer says...

Razor Sharp wrote:
gasguzzler wrote:
A racist attack if ever there was one.
With the limited information available, it's too early to state that the attack was racially motivated.

There's no mention of theft or robbery. Perhaps the perpetrators and victim knew each other, had history or had exchanges before the attack or it could have been gang related or a case of mistaken identity or some form gang related initiation or drugs related or a random act of violence for 'fun'. There are so many possibilities.

If the four in the picture were the perpetrators and intent on a violent night out, why didn't they wear hoodies and/or baseball caps. That appears to be the usual form to evade identification across the board, irrespective of their race. The UK wide riots are a case in point. With so many CCTV cameras in Town, why make it easy to be detected?

A racially motivated attack cannot be ruled out, or it could have been an aggravating factor, but equally it could have been a random act, or as stated above.

It's easy to say that one would "steam in", but the consequences could be fatal.

I remember being on a night out a number of years back in Watford with a friend who knew some other, shall we say, random characters. They were actively looking for a fight, urinating in public, and hitting someone over the head with a bottle was normal form. Fortunately, I did not witness any crime, since the Police response in the town centre was good. Suffice to say, I didn't meet those characters again. So, random acts do happen and sometimes for no real reason. It's the society we live in.
well said Razor! the nail has been hit squarely on the head.

The colour of the victims hasn't been mentioned and the last time I looked, Blacks also attacked other Blacks.

Branding this a racist attack based on the limited facts published here is worse than irresponsible.
[quote][p][bold]Razor Sharp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gasguzzler[/bold] wrote: A racist attack if ever there was one.[/p][/quote]With the limited information available, it's too early to state that the attack was racially motivated. There's no mention of theft or robbery. Perhaps the perpetrators and victim knew each other, had history or had exchanges before the attack or it could have been gang related or a case of mistaken identity or some form gang related initiation or drugs related or a random act of violence for 'fun'. There are so many possibilities. If the four in the picture were the perpetrators and intent on a violent night out, why didn't they wear hoodies and/or baseball caps. That appears to be the usual form to evade identification across the board, irrespective of their race. The UK wide riots are a case in point. With so many CCTV cameras in Town, why make it easy to be detected? A racially motivated attack cannot be ruled out, or it could have been an aggravating factor, but equally it could have been a random act, or as stated above. It's easy to say that one would "steam in", but the consequences could be fatal. I remember being on a night out a number of years back in Watford with a friend who knew some other, shall we say, random characters. They were actively looking for a fight, urinating in public, and hitting someone over the head with a bottle was normal form. Fortunately, I did not witness any crime, since the Police response in the town centre was good. Suffice to say, I didn't meet those characters again. So, random acts do happen and sometimes for no real reason. It's the society we live in.[/p][/quote]well said Razor! the nail has been hit squarely on the head. The colour of the victims hasn't been mentioned and the last time I looked, Blacks also attacked other Blacks. Branding this a racist attack based on the limited facts published here is worse than irresponsible. Keefer
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1:07am Wed 26 Dec 12

Mohandas says...

LSC is nice to see being so insightful unlike the posting on Christians in Hertsmere. There is a glimmer of hope for u in 2013. Well done
LSC is nice to see being so insightful unlike the posting on Christians in Hertsmere. There is a glimmer of hope for u in 2013. Well done Mohandas
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1:34pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Razor Sharp says...

Keefer wrote:
Razor Sharp wrote:
gasguzzler wrote:
A racist attack if ever there was one.
With the limited information available, it's too early to state that the attack was racially motivated.

There's no mention of theft or robbery. Perhaps the perpetrators and victim knew each other, had history or had exchanges before the attack or it could have been gang related or a case of mistaken identity or some form gang related initiation or drugs related or a random act of violence for 'fun'. There are so many possibilities.

If the four in the picture were the perpetrators and intent on a violent night out, why didn't they wear hoodies and/or baseball caps. That appears to be the usual form to evade identification across the board, irrespective of their race. The UK wide riots are a case in point. With so many CCTV cameras in Town, why make it easy to be detected?

A racially motivated attack cannot be ruled out, or it could have been an aggravating factor, but equally it could have been a random act, or as stated above.

It's easy to say that one would "steam in", but the consequences could be fatal.

I remember being on a night out a number of years back in Watford with a friend who knew some other, shall we say, random characters. They were actively looking for a fight, urinating in public, and hitting someone over the head with a bottle was normal form. Fortunately, I did not witness any crime, since the Police response in the town centre was good. Suffice to say, I didn't meet those characters again. So, random acts do happen and sometimes for no real reason. It's the society we live in.
well said Razor! the nail has been hit squarely on the head.

The colour of the victims hasn't been mentioned and the last time I looked, Blacks also attacked other Blacks.

Branding this a racist attack based on the limited facts published here is worse than irresponsible.
Black-on-black violence is not uncommon. Perhaps the Watford Observer and/or police did not want to identify the race of the victim in order to avoid an assumption on the part of the public that it was racially motivated or gang related.
[quote][p][bold]Keefer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Razor Sharp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gasguzzler[/bold] wrote: A racist attack if ever there was one.[/p][/quote]With the limited information available, it's too early to state that the attack was racially motivated. There's no mention of theft or robbery. Perhaps the perpetrators and victim knew each other, had history or had exchanges before the attack or it could have been gang related or a case of mistaken identity or some form gang related initiation or drugs related or a random act of violence for 'fun'. There are so many possibilities. If the four in the picture were the perpetrators and intent on a violent night out, why didn't they wear hoodies and/or baseball caps. That appears to be the usual form to evade identification across the board, irrespective of their race. The UK wide riots are a case in point. With so many CCTV cameras in Town, why make it easy to be detected? A racially motivated attack cannot be ruled out, or it could have been an aggravating factor, but equally it could have been a random act, or as stated above. It's easy to say that one would "steam in", but the consequences could be fatal. I remember being on a night out a number of years back in Watford with a friend who knew some other, shall we say, random characters. They were actively looking for a fight, urinating in public, and hitting someone over the head with a bottle was normal form. Fortunately, I did not witness any crime, since the Police response in the town centre was good. Suffice to say, I didn't meet those characters again. So, random acts do happen and sometimes for no real reason. It's the society we live in.[/p][/quote]well said Razor! the nail has been hit squarely on the head. The colour of the victims hasn't been mentioned and the last time I looked, Blacks also attacked other Blacks. Branding this a racist attack based on the limited facts published here is worse than irresponsible.[/p][/quote]Black-on-black violence is not uncommon. Perhaps the Watford Observer and/or police did not want to identify the race of the victim in order to avoid an assumption on the part of the public that it was racially motivated or gang related. Razor Sharp
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9:22pm Wed 26 Dec 12

MarsLander says...

It doesn't matter who the victims were, it was a crime. Let's catch them and hope the courts put them away for sufficient time to keep law-abiding citizens safe.

40 years should do it.
It doesn't matter who the victims were, it was a crime. Let's catch them and hope the courts put them away for sufficient time to keep law-abiding citizens safe. 40 years should do it. MarsLander
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7:37am Thu 27 Dec 12

garston tony says...

Studholme Berkeley wrote:
I think it's possible these four were also hanging around the Town Hall underpass at Sunday lunchtime. Two of them were hanging around the Library area, and the other two were standing by the tunnel entrance with their mobile phones.
If you havent already please report this information to the police
[quote][p][bold]Studholme Berkeley[/bold] wrote: I think it's possible these four were also hanging around the Town Hall underpass at Sunday lunchtime. Two of them were hanging around the Library area, and the other two were standing by the tunnel entrance with their mobile phones.[/p][/quote]If you havent already please report this information to the police garston tony
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12:42pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Keefer says...

Razor Sharp wrote:
Keefer wrote:
Razor Sharp wrote:
gasguzzler wrote:
A racist attack if ever there was one.
With the limited information available, it's too early to state that the attack was racially motivated.

There's no mention of theft or robbery. Perhaps the perpetrators and victim knew each other, had history or had exchanges before the attack or it could have been gang related or a case of mistaken identity or some form gang related initiation or drugs related or a random act of violence for 'fun'. There are so many possibilities.

If the four in the picture were the perpetrators and intent on a violent night out, why didn't they wear hoodies and/or baseball caps. That appears to be the usual form to evade identification across the board, irrespective of their race. The UK wide riots are a case in point. With so many CCTV cameras in Town, why make it easy to be detected?

A racially motivated attack cannot be ruled out, or it could have been an aggravating factor, but equally it could have been a random act, or as stated above.

It's easy to say that one would "steam in", but the consequences could be fatal.

I remember being on a night out a number of years back in Watford with a friend who knew some other, shall we say, random characters. They were actively looking for a fight, urinating in public, and hitting someone over the head with a bottle was normal form. Fortunately, I did not witness any crime, since the Police response in the town centre was good. Suffice to say, I didn't meet those characters again. So, random acts do happen and sometimes for no real reason. It's the society we live in.
well said Razor! the nail has been hit squarely on the head.

The colour of the victims hasn't been mentioned and the last time I looked, Blacks also attacked other Blacks.

Branding this a racist attack based on the limited facts published here is worse than irresponsible.
Black-on-black violence is not uncommon. Perhaps the Watford Observer and/or police did not want to identify the race of the victim in order to avoid an assumption on the part of the public that it was racially motivated or gang related.
That would be the most likely reason only the race of the witnesses has been mentioned, but it hasn't stopped the gasguzzling one from assuming a racist motive & painting a racist picture for others to brandish.
[quote][p][bold]Razor Sharp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keefer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Razor Sharp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gasguzzler[/bold] wrote: A racist attack if ever there was one.[/p][/quote]With the limited information available, it's too early to state that the attack was racially motivated. There's no mention of theft or robbery. Perhaps the perpetrators and victim knew each other, had history or had exchanges before the attack or it could have been gang related or a case of mistaken identity or some form gang related initiation or drugs related or a random act of violence for 'fun'. There are so many possibilities. If the four in the picture were the perpetrators and intent on a violent night out, why didn't they wear hoodies and/or baseball caps. That appears to be the usual form to evade identification across the board, irrespective of their race. The UK wide riots are a case in point. With so many CCTV cameras in Town, why make it easy to be detected? A racially motivated attack cannot be ruled out, or it could have been an aggravating factor, but equally it could have been a random act, or as stated above. It's easy to say that one would "steam in", but the consequences could be fatal. I remember being on a night out a number of years back in Watford with a friend who knew some other, shall we say, random characters. They were actively looking for a fight, urinating in public, and hitting someone over the head with a bottle was normal form. Fortunately, I did not witness any crime, since the Police response in the town centre was good. Suffice to say, I didn't meet those characters again. So, random acts do happen and sometimes for no real reason. It's the society we live in.[/p][/quote]well said Razor! the nail has been hit squarely on the head. The colour of the victims hasn't been mentioned and the last time I looked, Blacks also attacked other Blacks. Branding this a racist attack based on the limited facts published here is worse than irresponsible.[/p][/quote]Black-on-black violence is not uncommon. Perhaps the Watford Observer and/or police did not want to identify the race of the victim in order to avoid an assumption on the part of the public that it was racially motivated or gang related.[/p][/quote]That would be the most likely reason only the race of the witnesses has been mentioned, but it hasn't stopped the gasguzzling one from assuming a racist motive & painting a racist picture for others to brandish. Keefer
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5:41pm Sat 29 Dec 12

jen72523 says...

they were hard working people who were on their way home after a night out, poor guys,
hope they catch the scum. and apparently as they were attacked the attackers said oh **** wrong person. and ran off
they were hard working people who were on their way home after a night out, poor guys, hope they catch the scum. and apparently as they were attacked the attackers said oh **** wrong person. and ran off jen72523
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