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Police release CCTV image following assault in town centre (From Watford Observer)
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Police release CCTV image following assault in Beechen Grove, Watford
3:00pm Monday 24th December 2012 in News
By Mike Wright, Chief Reporter
Police release CCTV image following assault in town centre
Police have released the CCTV image of four men they want to speak to after a pair were attacked in Watford town centre.
Officers said a man in his 20s and a friend were walking along Beechen Grove, near to the junction in Loates Lane, at around 3am on Saturday when they were assaulted.
One of the men was hit in the back of the head causing him to fall.
The attackers then made off towards the town centre.
PC Lauren Shipman said: "I am appealing to anyone who may recognise the people pictured to contact police with information. I am also appealing to two men who stopped and spoke to the victim and his friend.
"Both men are described as white, in their early 20s. One of the men was walking a dog. I am appealing to these men to get in contact with us, as they can help with our investigation."
Anyone with information is asked contact PC Lauren Shipman on 01923 472426 or via the Herts Police non-emergency number 101.
Alternatively Crimestoppers can be called anonymously on 0800 555 111.
Comments(16)
OAC Bailiff
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3:41pm Mon 24 Dec 12
Boosey
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3:51pm Mon 24 Dec 12
LSC
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5:11pm Mon 24 Dec 12
mc77
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5:45pm Mon 24 Dec 12
gasguzzler wrote:Eh? Because the perpetrators appear to be black or mixed race?
A racist attack if ever there was one.
I think you'll find if you read the report again you would see that they are appealing to 2 white men in their 20s who witnessed the assault. But judging by your dim-witted response, you might have trouble with that....
Studholme Berkeley
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5:46pm Mon 24 Dec 12
Two of them were hanging around the Library area, and the other two were standing by the tunnel entrance with their mobile phones.
Mohandas
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10:41pm Mon 24 Dec 12
Razor Sharp
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10:42am Tue 25 Dec 12
gasguzzler wrote:With the limited information available, it's too early to state that the attack was racially motivated.
A racist attack if ever there was one.
There's no mention of theft or robbery. Perhaps the perpetrators and victim knew each other, had history or had exchanges before the attack or it could have been gang related or a case of mistaken identity or some form gang related initiation or drugs related or a random act of violence for 'fun'. There are so many possibilities.
If the four in the picture were the perpetrators and intent on a violent night out, why didn't they wear hoodies and/or baseball caps. That appears to be the usual form to evade identification across the board, irrespective of their race. The UK wide riots are a case in point. With so many CCTV cameras in Town, why make it easy to be detected?
A racially motivated attack cannot be ruled out, or it could have been an aggravating factor, but equally it could have been a random act, or as stated above.
It's easy to say that one would "steam in", but the consequences could be fatal.
I remember being on a night out a number of years back in Watford with a friend who knew some other, shall we say, random characters. They were actively looking for a fight, urinating in public, and hitting someone over the head with a bottle was normal form. Fortunately, I did not witness any crime, since the Police response in the town centre was good. Suffice to say, I didn't meet those characters again. So, random acts do happen and sometimes for no real reason. It's the society we live in.
pepsiman
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12:04pm Tue 25 Dec 12
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Keefer
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6:37pm Tue 25 Dec 12
Razor Sharp wrote:well said Razor! the nail has been hit squarely on the head.
gasguzzler wrote:With the limited information available, it's too early to state that the attack was racially motivated.
A racist attack if ever there was one.
There's no mention of theft or robbery. Perhaps the perpetrators and victim knew each other, had history or had exchanges before the attack or it could have been gang related or a case of mistaken identity or some form gang related initiation or drugs related or a random act of violence for 'fun'. There are so many possibilities.
If the four in the picture were the perpetrators and intent on a violent night out, why didn't they wear hoodies and/or baseball caps. That appears to be the usual form to evade identification across the board, irrespective of their race. The UK wide riots are a case in point. With so many CCTV cameras in Town, why make it easy to be detected?
A racially motivated attack cannot be ruled out, or it could have been an aggravating factor, but equally it could have been a random act, or as stated above.
It's easy to say that one would "steam in", but the consequences could be fatal.
I remember being on a night out a number of years back in Watford with a friend who knew some other, shall we say, random characters. They were actively looking for a fight, urinating in public, and hitting someone over the head with a bottle was normal form. Fortunately, I did not witness any crime, since the Police response in the town centre was good. Suffice to say, I didn't meet those characters again. So, random acts do happen and sometimes for no real reason. It's the society we live in.
The colour of the victims hasn't been mentioned and the last time I looked, Blacks also attacked other Blacks.
Branding this a racist attack based on the limited facts published here is worse than irresponsible.
Mohandas
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1:07am Wed 26 Dec 12
Razor Sharp
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1:34pm Wed 26 Dec 12
Keefer wrote:Black-on-black violence is not uncommon. Perhaps the Watford Observer and/or police did not want to identify the race of the victim in order to avoid an assumption on the part of the public that it was racially motivated or gang related.
Razor Sharp wrote:well said Razor! the nail has been hit squarely on the head.
gasguzzler wrote:With the limited information available, it's too early to state that the attack was racially motivated.
A racist attack if ever there was one.
There's no mention of theft or robbery. Perhaps the perpetrators and victim knew each other, had history or had exchanges before the attack or it could have been gang related or a case of mistaken identity or some form gang related initiation or drugs related or a random act of violence for 'fun'. There are so many possibilities.
If the four in the picture were the perpetrators and intent on a violent night out, why didn't they wear hoodies and/or baseball caps. That appears to be the usual form to evade identification across the board, irrespective of their race. The UK wide riots are a case in point. With so many CCTV cameras in Town, why make it easy to be detected?
A racially motivated attack cannot be ruled out, or it could have been an aggravating factor, but equally it could have been a random act, or as stated above.
It's easy to say that one would "steam in", but the consequences could be fatal.
I remember being on a night out a number of years back in Watford with a friend who knew some other, shall we say, random characters. They were actively looking for a fight, urinating in public, and hitting someone over the head with a bottle was normal form. Fortunately, I did not witness any crime, since the Police response in the town centre was good. Suffice to say, I didn't meet those characters again. So, random acts do happen and sometimes for no real reason. It's the society we live in.
The colour of the victims hasn't been mentioned and the last time I looked, Blacks also attacked other Blacks.
Branding this a racist attack based on the limited facts published here is worse than irresponsible.
MarsLander
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9:22pm Wed 26 Dec 12
40 years should do it.
garston tony
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7:37am Thu 27 Dec 12
Studholme Berkeley wrote:If you havent already please report this information to the police
I think it's possible these four were also hanging around the Town Hall underpass at Sunday lunchtime. Two of them were hanging around the Library area, and the other two were standing by the tunnel entrance with their mobile phones.
Keefer
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12:42pm Thu 27 Dec 12
Razor Sharp wrote:That would be the most likely reason only the race of the witnesses has been mentioned, but it hasn't stopped the gasguzzling one from assuming a racist motive & painting a racist picture for others to brandish.
Keefer wrote:Black-on-black violence is not uncommon. Perhaps the Watford Observer and/or police did not want to identify the race of the victim in order to avoid an assumption on the part of the public that it was racially motivated or gang related.
Razor Sharp wrote:well said Razor! the nail has been hit squarely on the head.
gasguzzler wrote:With the limited information available, it's too early to state that the attack was racially motivated.
A racist attack if ever there was one.
There's no mention of theft or robbery. Perhaps the perpetrators and victim knew each other, had history or had exchanges before the attack or it could have been gang related or a case of mistaken identity or some form gang related initiation or drugs related or a random act of violence for 'fun'. There are so many possibilities.
If the four in the picture were the perpetrators and intent on a violent night out, why didn't they wear hoodies and/or baseball caps. That appears to be the usual form to evade identification across the board, irrespective of their race. The UK wide riots are a case in point. With so many CCTV cameras in Town, why make it easy to be detected?
A racially motivated attack cannot be ruled out, or it could have been an aggravating factor, but equally it could have been a random act, or as stated above.
It's easy to say that one would "steam in", but the consequences could be fatal.
I remember being on a night out a number of years back in Watford with a friend who knew some other, shall we say, random characters. They were actively looking for a fight, urinating in public, and hitting someone over the head with a bottle was normal form. Fortunately, I did not witness any crime, since the Police response in the town centre was good. Suffice to say, I didn't meet those characters again. So, random acts do happen and sometimes for no real reason. It's the society we live in.
The colour of the victims hasn't been mentioned and the last time I looked, Blacks also attacked other Blacks.
Branding this a racist attack based on the limited facts published here is worse than irresponsible.
jen72523
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5:41pm Sat 29 Dec 12
hope they catch the scum. and apparently as they were attacked the attackers said oh **** wrong person. and ran off
gasguzzler says...
3:18pm Mon 24 Dec 12