Former Deputy Police Commissioner suspended from Conservative party candidate list (From Watford Observer)

The conservatives have got big problems already with UKIP taking their majority away from them. I think they're probably stupid enough to let her carry on. I mean, how much worse could it get for the tories?

It seems like this stupid woman has learned nothing from this whole sorry escapade - all of her own making.
What she has failed to grasp is that Adolf Hitler was never a socialist.
He was whatever it took to gain power. He - along with all the other leading Nazis - was a political criminal. He was the leader of a political gang, who would do anything and say anything to gain power.
After gaining power in 1933, one of the very first actions the Nazis took was to round up and send all the German socialists to concentration camps. Bearing this in mind, does this idiotic woman now understand why many people find her useage of this Hitler lie so objectionable?
She really REALLY needs to undertake a course of political education for her own good and to enhance the minimal level of political understanding she has displayed up till now.
Being a political ignoramus was never a suitable quality for being appointed to the post of deputy PCC - as David Lloyd ought to have been aware - and it is certainly no qualification for getting herself back on the Conservative Party parliamentary candidate list.

Godwins Law.
And she should know this. The moment you mention Hitler, you lose all credibility and lose any arguement you were making.
It is just about the oldest rule of the internet.

I'm afraid I've lost the thread of this topic entirely!

Whatever Rachel Frosh said, or re-tweeted, surely she was historically correct in saying that Hitler DID call his party National Socialists? Of course they weren't socialists in the modern sense of the word but that isn't the point. It's a question of historical accuracy.

Isn't that how the German term Nationalsozialismus became truncated to Nazis?

It seems utter nonsense to me if no-one is even allowed to mention Adolf Hitler in a serious debate for fear of being accused of racism.

At the same time, I agree with the points made elsewhere that the office of Deputy Police Commissioner is an unnecessary one anyway.

Look up Godwins law Roy, it makes sense. Of course, reasoned debate can mention Hitler. But how often do you see reasoned debate these days?

As I have explained elsewhere, the name National Socialist German Workers Party or NSDAP was chosen before Hitler was lordered to infiltrate it by German military intelligence. His boss was Major Rohm, who Hitler subsequently had murdered during the Night of the Long Knives. Words and names never meant anything to the Nazis, who were a criminal gang who did and said anything it took to seize power. They even tried to gain power through militarised insurrection in Bavaria at one stage, though the local police resisted that attempt forcibly, which led to the trial and imprisonment of Hitler, during which time he and his loyal assistant Hess wrote Mein Kampf or my Struggle.
Hitler and his gang of criminal crazies were anything but socialists, which is why it is insulting and incorrect to tie in the Nazis with socialists anywhere and at any time. Some may be forgiven for not knowing the difference but certainly not this stupid woman who was promoted above her natural level of competence.
The idea that she could be perceived as a potential Conservative candidate for parliament is extremely troubling. She clearly needs to study and reflect upon political history.
The phrase "We are all socialists now" was used in a speech in 1887 by Liberal statesmen William Vernon Harcourt, who - in his earlier career - had been a supporter of Sir Robert Peel, the Father of Modern Conservatism.
Does this make Rachel Frosh into a socialist as a result? Does she like the idea of using historical material to cast her alongside Adolf Hitler?
Some of the early sayings of Winston Churchill would be considered toe-curlingly embarrassing today.
Is it right to drag them up and label - or even libel - present-day Conservatives with them?

Oooooh DEAR!
Yet another Politico falls foul of the Leftist agenda.....

I hope Camoron and Clegg will stop being Holocaust Deniers.....

Full Public Enquiry and Apology for the Irish Holocaust, perhaps????

....Thought not.... for those who want the truth, and not what teachers were told to tell us, check out irishholocaust dot org...

Peace... folks....Tiochfaidh Ar La....

John Dowdle wrote:
As I have explained elsewhere, the name National Socialist German Workers Party or NSDAP was chosen before Hitler was lordered to infiltrate it by German military intelligence. His boss was Major Rohm, who Hitler subsequently had murdered during the Night of the Long Knives. Words and names never meant anything to the Nazis, who were a criminal gang who did and said anything it took to seize power. They even tried to gain power through militarised insurrection in Bavaria at one stage, though the local police resisted that attempt forcibly, which led to the trial and imprisonment of Hitler, during which time he and his loyal assistant Hess wrote Mein Kampf or my Struggle.
Hitler and his gang of criminal crazies were anything but socialists, which is why it is insulting and incorrect to tie in the Nazis with socialists anywhere and at any time. Some may be forgiven for not knowing the difference but certainly not this stupid woman who was promoted above her natural level of competence.
The idea that she could be perceived as a potential Conservative candidate for parliament is extremely troubling. She clearly needs to study and reflect upon political history.
The phrase "We are all socialists now" was used in a speech in 1887 by Liberal statesmen William Vernon Harcourt, who - in his earlier career - had been a supporter of Sir Robert Peel, the Father of Modern Conservatism.
Does this make Rachel Frosh into a socialist as a result? Does she like the idea of using historical material to cast her alongside Adolf Hitler?
Some of the early sayings of Winston Churchill would be considered toe-curlingly embarrassing today.
Is it right to drag them up and label - or even libel - present-day Conservatives with them?

Nice one John!

Nothing quite like a good education.... eh?