Hertfordshire Police Commissioner David Lloyd: 'Deputy role is something I will reflect on'

4:07pm Friday 15th February 2013 in News Photograph of the Author By Ben Endley, Senior reporter

Hertfordshire Police Commissioner: 'Deputy role is something I will reflect on' Hertfordshire Police Commissioner: 'Deputy role is something I will reflect on'

Police Crime Commissioner David Lloyd may not appoint a new deputy to replace Rachel Frosh.

Mr Lloyd revealed he was considering whether or not to replace Dr Frosh, who stepped down earlier this week after controversially sharing a photo and quote by Adolf Hitler with her Twitter followers.

Dr Frosh, who was appointed to the £20,000 two-day a week role by Mr Lloyd following his election in November, was also removed from the Conservative candidate list this week.

Speaking at the Police and Crime Panel meeting last night, Mr Lloyd said: "As many of you know there was some press interest in her after retweeting a tweet.

"She apologised for that and recognised she has upset people she didn’t want to upset, and felt it would be better to explain what she was doing and didn’t want to bring the office into disrepute.

"I regret that she tendered her resignation.

"I am not going to appoint a deputy in the short term, this does give me an opportunity to reflect on what I am going to do.

"It isn’t a role we have to have, it is something I will reflect on.

"If in due course I reflect that I do need a deputy I will bring that person to you."

Comments(16)

LSC says...
4:20pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Use the money on another copper. You know, those people who actually go out and catch criminals, not attend meetings, run feasabilty studies, outreach courses, diversity awareness seminars and issue press releases for a (very healthy) living, like your good self.

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MarsLander says...
4:43pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Does the PCC know how smug he looks in that photo?

So far, he has done nothing to look smug about. I'd have thought a more appropriate photo would have had a little contrition in his demeanour and traces of egg having been wiped off his face.

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chrisrobech says...
5:58pm Fri 15 Feb 13

it isn't a role we have to have.
your so correct follow you deputy go right now.

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Mohandas says...
6:48pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Amazing how the power groups can do what they like and the bigger the mistake the more they come out smelling of roses because they believe the electorate have such short meories.

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John Dowdle says...
9:46am Sat 16 Feb 13

This idiotic saga raises the question as to why - after having paid this women some of our money for doing nothing - has he only now come to a realisation that he does not need a deputy.
Is he thick or something? Do we really need either of them: PCC or deputy?
He has hardly covered himself in glory over this stupid little saga, has he?

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amershamhornet says...
9:49am Sat 16 Feb 13

Firstly £20,000 pa for a job that is not needed is simply daft. Hopefully the whole concept of Police Crime Commissioners should be short lived and the money saved put back into front line policing. Prior to paying these commissioners there were voluntary unpaid lay panels that gave help and advice to the police and worked to the setting policing priorities. Very few people in the country voted for these commissioners and they are simply not needed - especially in these days where money should be saved. At the next election I will vote for any party that removes PCC role in a paid position.

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amershamhornet says...
9:56am Sat 16 Feb 13

Also in the article Mr Lloyd is doing three lots of reflecting and one lot of regretting that his deputy resigned. Is this really value for money

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Roy Stockdill says...
2:06pm Sat 16 Feb 13

It's hardly surprising that the electoral turn-out for the voting on police commissioners was just about the lowest in history, not just in Hertfordshire but throughout the entire country, since hardly anyone was remotely interested. Poor old John Prescott couldn't even get elected as a police commissioner in his home town, Hull!

BTW, I still don't known what this woman who resigned is supposed to have done. What did she say about Adolf Hitler or what quote did she tweet or re-tweet, whatever that means? Isn't it all becoming just a bit silly when people get offended over something which is a load of nonsense anyway?

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LSC says...
2:28pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Roy Stockdill wrote:
It's hardly surprising that the electoral turn-out for the voting on police commissioners was just about the lowest in history, not just in Hertfordshire but throughout the entire country, since hardly anyone was remotely interested. Poor old John Prescott couldn't even get elected as a police commissioner in his home town, Hull!

BTW, I still don't known what this woman who resigned is supposed to have done. What did she say about Adolf Hitler or what quote did she tweet or re-tweet, whatever that means? Isn't it all becoming just a bit silly when people get offended over something which is a load of nonsense anyway?
Silly yes, but also important because we pay for it. It is blindingly clear that no-one wanted a PCC. It is also clear that nobody knew he even had an assistant that we also paid for. What did she do, type out his press releases? That is all he seems to do.
I can't help you with the Twitter thing, I also do not take part. But apparently she thought Hitler had a point.

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John Dowdle says...
5:12pm Sat 16 Feb 13

In quoting sayings by Hitler from 1927 - 6 years before the Nazis gained power - she is mis-represents history and mis-represents socialism.
Hitler and his ilk worked much more closely with Tory appeasers like Camberlain than they ever did with socialists like George Orwell who went to Spain to fight alongside Republicans against the forces of fascism.
She should keep her cheap, shoddy and historically incorrect "tweets" to her bird-brained self.

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Roy Stockdill says...
5:23pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Isn't it arguable, John, as to which movement murdered more people - Hitler's National Socialist (Nazi) movement or Stalin's alleged socialist (Communist) one? Whichever way you look at it, neither has much to commend it!

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MarsLander says...
5:40pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Communism, Fascism, EUism, all flawed ideas of ruling over the people, all doomed to fail because people will always prefer freedom and democracy.

Let's hope the EU is defeated and we regain our freedom and democracy without the bloodshed required to defeat the Nazis and in fighting communists.

I do fear for our future in the EU.

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Roy Stockdill says...
5:52pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Indeed, and wasn't the British Empire, for all its faults and warts, the most benevolent and successful empire in history?

Yes, we subjugated a lot of people in the world but we also gave them democracy, good government, the rule of law and an understanding of our sort of freedom. Pity so many of them chucked it all away when we granted them independence!

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MarsLander says...
5:58pm Sat 16 Feb 13

I don't know about the Empire Roy, but it's a pity we are chucking away our own independence. I do believe we have shown we know how to handle it.

I do hope that the likes of Clegg move to mainland Europe, if they'll have him, because to be honest I have no idea why he is here. This is clearly not the right country for him and his views.

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John Dowdle says...
6:20pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Roy Stockdill correctly identifies political extremism as reprehensible.
What is bizarre historically is that Hitler and the Nazis considered Bolshevism - the early form of Communism - as something to be utterly opposed.
What few people these days know about is that the high military commands of both Germany and Russia colluded together in the 1920s and 1930s to side-step international measures designed to stop the build up of German land and air forces.
Both totalitarian regimes then entered into the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in order to carve up Poland and the Baltic states, which Britain and France - under conservative governments - did little to oppose through the period of the phony war during late 1939 and early 1940.
These days, we could add religious extremism alongside political extremism as something to be concerned about, perhaps an area which is even more troubling than political extremism, which has few advocates and supporters now except in odd places like North Korea.

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LSC says...
9:03pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Germany very nearly became communist in the 30's. It was going to be one extreme or the other, and it was mostly the fault of France who basically demanded that Germany paid for the cost of the 14-18 war.
Germans literally used paper money as firelighters, it was worth so little.
During this time, the Jewish community tended to trade amoung themselves internationally, while the rest of the world shunned Germany. Thus the Jews were such an easy target to shoulder blame; same with the gypsys who stuck to their own and appeared to be doing no worse than before.
Basically we set Hitler up. An often asked question is if you had a time machine, what would you do? Many say go back and shoot Hitler. Well; it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference; someone else would have taken his place, and god forbid have been more competent.

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