'Anti-Bilderberg' event application withdrawn

First published in News Watford Observer: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

An application to hold a "family event" in a field opposite The Grove hotel while the Bilderberg Group is meeting there has been withdrawn.

The request for a temporary events notice in West Field at the junction of Hempstead Road and North Western Avenue was due to be considered this morning by Watford Borough Council’s licensing sub-committee.

The event had been planned to run from June 8 to June 12 and promises entertainment including folk music, children’s entertainers, face painting, craft workshops and stalls.

The application also sought a late night alcohol sales license.

Documents show Herts police objected to the application due to "concerns over possible crime and disorder linked to a nearby conference at The Grove".

Su Murray, the applicant who stood as a Green Party candidate in the recent county council elections, said she was organising a Green event but hoped to work with the people drawn to the area by the Bilderberg Meeting.

However, speaking on Tuesday she has since chosen to withdraw the application fearing it would become too disruptive to the public and could be over-run by anti-Bilderberg protestors.

Opponents of the shadowy meeting of world leaders from business, politics and academia are organising a fringe festival to coincide with the meeting next month.

An Occupy Bilderberg Facebook group already has more than 800 people listing themselves as attending.

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11:17am Tue 21 May 13

dontknowynot says...

I do hope Su revisits the idea for a latter date :-)
I do hope Su revisits the idea for a latter date :-) dontknowynot
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12:18pm Tue 21 May 13

AlpinaB5 says...

Does it occur to anybody that we live in a free state, and in a free state people are entitled to hold private meetings and functions without having to distribute minutes to everybody else? If the Bilderberg gang want to hold a private function at the Grove, go for it. It won't be the first nor the last private function at the Grove. For goodness sake, grow up; and all you conspiracy theorists: go away, or produce some concrete evidence about what it is you think you are protesting about.
Does it occur to anybody that we live in a free state, and in a free state people are entitled to hold private meetings and functions without having to distribute minutes to everybody else? If the Bilderberg gang want to hold a private function at the Grove, go for it. It won't be the first nor the last private function at the Grove. For goodness sake, grow up; and all you conspiracy theorists: go away, or produce some concrete evidence about what it is you think you are protesting about. AlpinaB5
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12:43pm Tue 21 May 13

anon34 says...

AlpinaB5 you ought to research the Bilderberg group and find out what kind of decisions are made at their "private" meetings they have very public consequences.
AlpinaB5 you ought to research the Bilderberg group and find out what kind of decisions are made at their "private" meetings they have very public consequences. anon34
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12:44pm Tue 21 May 13

garston tony says...

I think withdrawing it was the right thing to do, an event aimed at families did not sit well with an associated protest.

AlpinaB5, yes it is a free country and yes that means people have the right to hold private meetings. It also means that people have the right to object if they feel someone is doing something wrong. My only point about this protest is that no one actually knows what this group will be discussing and therefore a protest seems illogical
I think withdrawing it was the right thing to do, an event aimed at families did not sit well with an associated protest. AlpinaB5, yes it is a free country and yes that means people have the right to hold private meetings. It also means that people have the right to object if they feel someone is doing something wrong. My only point about this protest is that no one actually knows what this group will be discussing and therefore a protest seems illogical garston tony
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1:16pm Tue 21 May 13

MarsLander says...

"Greens, communists, SWP and other assorted nutters give up and go home"

If only.....
"Greens, communists, SWP and other assorted nutters give up and go home" If only..... MarsLander
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1:24pm Tue 21 May 13

dontknowynot says...

I would like to know
1) is another folk festival planned
2) will the local Clllrs and Watford Council cooperate to make it a success.
3) can a sponsor be found
I would like to know 1) is another folk festival planned 2) will the local Clllrs and Watford Council cooperate to make it a success. 3) can a sponsor be found dontknowynot
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3:10pm Tue 21 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

Why don't you sponsor it?
Why don't you sponsor it? Roy Stockdill
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5:35pm Tue 21 May 13

LSC says...

"3) can a sponsor be found"

So you want someone with disposable income to give you money to protest about people with disposable income.

Fantastic. The circle of stupidity is complete.
"3) can a sponsor be found" So you want someone with disposable income to give you money to protest about people with disposable income. Fantastic. The circle of stupidity is complete. LSC
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12:31am Wed 22 May 13

Watford Coalition of Resistance says...

LSC wrote:
"3) can a sponsor be found"

So you want someone with disposable income to give you money to protest about people with disposable income.

Fantastic. The circle of stupidity is complete.
Wasn't the question more - could we have a folk festival at a later date and could a sponsor be found?
[quote][p][bold]LSC[/bold] wrote: "3) can a sponsor be found" So you want someone with disposable income to give you money to protest about people with disposable income. Fantastic. The circle of stupidity is complete.[/p][/quote]Wasn't the question more - could we have a folk festival at a later date and could a sponsor be found? Watford Coalition of Resistance
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3:35am Wed 22 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

Do I take it that your pseudonym "Watford Coalition of Resistance" is roughly equivalent to that used in Monty Python's Life of Brian, i.e. the People's Front of Judea or was it the People's Judean Front?

Who wants a folk festival - whatever that is - and why? What IS a folk festival anyway? An excuse for a bunch of the great unwashed and leftover hippies from the 1970s to prance around in their underpants pretending to be important?

Who on earth do you imagine would want to sponsor it? Does Mickey Mouse and Walt Disney still live?
Do I take it that your pseudonym "Watford Coalition of Resistance" is roughly equivalent to that used in Monty Python's Life of Brian, i.e. the People's Front of Judea or was it the People's Judean Front? Who wants a folk festival - whatever that is - and why? What IS a folk festival anyway? An excuse for a bunch of the great unwashed and leftover hippies from the 1970s to prance around in their underpants pretending to be important? Who on earth do you imagine would want to sponsor it? Does Mickey Mouse and Walt Disney still live? Roy Stockdill
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4:25am Wed 22 May 13

Honest Rog says...

The right-wing swivel eyed loons on here are getting in a lather about...erm..nothing
. Su has shelved plans for the Folk Festival so move on folks, nothing to see here. That this shadowy group of creepy Bilderberg people (think Kissinger) who have control of our money should be afforded secrecy is anti-democracy writ large!
No hippies to beat up now so go kick a beggar or two.
The right-wing swivel eyed loons on here are getting in a lather about...erm..nothing . Su has shelved plans for the Folk Festival so move on folks, nothing to see here. That this shadowy group of creepy Bilderberg people (think Kissinger) who have control of our money should be afforded secrecy is anti-democracy writ large! No hippies to beat up now so go kick a beggar or two. Honest Rog
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5:48am Wed 22 May 13

Mark Watkin says...

Just like any other major events lasting days, the Police and Council need o be confident that the organisers have covered all the bases - suitable site, adequate marshals, parking arrangements, camping facilities, rubbish collection etc etc. And most important of all its impact on Watford residents. If, by good planning,sitting etc it ticks all the boxes then it will be supported. Why not?

Sue Murray's plans failed every test and would have been a major disruption to local people so I am delighted she has withdrawn her application.

What is also good news is that the police have agreed with The Grove that protesters can camp on Grove Land and that any who try to use the land along the Hempstead Road will be stopped.
Just like any other major events lasting days, the Police and Council need o be confident that the organisers have covered all the bases - suitable site, adequate marshals, parking arrangements, camping facilities, rubbish collection etc etc. And most important of all its impact on Watford residents. If, by good planning,sitting etc it ticks all the boxes then it will be supported. Why not? Sue Murray's plans failed every test and would have been a major disruption to local people so I am delighted she has withdrawn her application. What is also good news is that the police have agreed with The Grove that protesters can camp on Grove Land and that any who try to use the land along the Hempstead Road will be stopped. Mark Watkin
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10:17am Wed 22 May 13

underterraingrunter says...

The entire area is going to be over-run by peaceful protestors who have researched what the Bilderbergers represent. A Critical Mass bike ride will cause extreme congestion. The only way to avoid this in the future is to persuade the management of The Grove not to host meetings of this nature.
The entire area is going to be over-run by peaceful protestors who have researched what the Bilderbergers represent. A Critical Mass bike ride will cause extreme congestion. The only way to avoid this in the future is to persuade the management of The Grove not to host meetings of this nature. underterraingrunter
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12:04pm Wed 22 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

Side note to the reporter Ben Endley.....

>The application also sought a late night alcohol sales license.<

Dear Ben

The word licence, in the context in which you have used it, is spelt with a "c" and not with an "s". In this case the word is a noun and thus spelt as I have spelt it. If it were being used as a verb, i.e. to license something, then the "s" is appropriate.

I get worried about the increasing use of American spellings in the WO. Could you perhaps spend a little time studying the correct usage of English grammar instead of an American spell checker?
Side note to the reporter Ben Endley..... >The application also sought a late night alcohol sales license.< Dear Ben The word licence, in the context in which you have used it, is spelt with a "c" and not with an "s". In this case the word is a noun and thus spelt as I have spelt it. If it were being used as a verb, i.e. to license something, then the "s" is appropriate. I get worried about the increasing use of American spellings in the WO. Could you perhaps spend a little time studying the correct usage of English grammar instead of an American spell checker? Roy Stockdill
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12:11pm Wed 22 May 13

garston tony says...

underterraingrunter wrote:
The entire area is going to be over-run by peaceful protestors who have researched what the Bilderbergers represent. A Critical Mass bike ride will cause extreme congestion. The only way to avoid this in the future is to persuade the management of The Grove not to host meetings of this nature.
'Who have researched what the Bilderbergers represent'.

Well I assume like most mortals their research consists of what they find on the internet, which is one official site, a couple of wikipedia entries and thousands of conspiracy sites where they are blamed (with no evidence to back up the claims) for everything from JFK's assasination to alien conspiracies to things that happened centuries before this group even existed.

Peaceful the protesters may be (and lets hope they are not infiltrated as so many other protests have by people with violence as their agenda) but intelligent…. the best that can be said is that in this matter no they are not
[quote][p][bold]underterraingrunter[/bold] wrote: The entire area is going to be over-run by peaceful protestors who have researched what the Bilderbergers represent. A Critical Mass bike ride will cause extreme congestion. The only way to avoid this in the future is to persuade the management of The Grove not to host meetings of this nature.[/p][/quote]'Who have researched what the Bilderbergers represent'. Well I assume like most mortals their research consists of what they find on the internet, which is one official site, a couple of wikipedia entries and thousands of conspiracy sites where they are blamed (with no evidence to back up the claims) for everything from JFK's assasination to alien conspiracies to things that happened centuries before this group even existed. Peaceful the protesters may be (and lets hope they are not infiltrated as so many other protests have by people with violence as their agenda) but intelligent…. the best that can be said is that in this matter no they are not garston tony
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12:15pm Wed 22 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

>No hippies to beat up now so go kick a beggar or two.<

Thanks for the suggestion, Honest Rog. I haven't actually come across many beggars in Watford unless you mean the odd benefits scrounger. Presumably you got the idea from that Monty Python sketch about the Upper Class Twit of the Year?

I wonder why you swivel-eyed loons of the Left think that all we normal, sensible people who are not of the Left must be upper class and wealthy? All we ask is a quiet, peaceful life and to be left alone to pursue our lives and interests and not have them interrupted by barking mad, foaming-at-the-mouth conspiracy theorists.
>No hippies to beat up now so go kick a beggar or two.< Thanks for the suggestion, Honest Rog. I haven't actually come across many beggars in Watford unless you mean the odd benefits scrounger. Presumably you got the idea from that Monty Python sketch about the Upper Class Twit of the Year? I wonder why you swivel-eyed loons of the Left think that all we normal, sensible people who are not of the Left must be upper class and wealthy? All we ask is a quiet, peaceful life and to be left alone to pursue our lives and interests and not have them interrupted by barking mad, foaming-at-the-mouth conspiracy theorists. Roy Stockdill
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3:01pm Wed 22 May 13

bilderbergsucks says...

"All we ask is a quiet, peaceful life and to be left alone to pursue our lives and interests"





Yes, that's why 'we' will be protesting against these corporatist elitists who are meeting in Watford to further their interests at the expense of ours.

We don't want their wars, or their economic and social tyranny.


Nor do we want their corporate takeover of our democracy and our sovereignty.

We don't want nor need these modern day robber barons.

If people understood what these people really represent their would be a few million protesters turning up in Watford.
"All we ask is a quiet, peaceful life and to be left alone to pursue our lives and interests" Yes, that's why 'we' will be protesting against these corporatist elitists who are meeting in Watford to further their interests at the expense of ours. We don't want their wars, or their economic and social tyranny. Nor do we want their corporate takeover of our democracy and our sovereignty. We don't want nor need these modern day robber barons. If people understood what these people really represent their would be a few million protesters turning up in Watford. bilderbergsucks
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3:10pm Wed 22 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

Do you turn into a werewolf at night by any chance,bilderbergsuc
ks?
Do you turn into a werewolf at night by any chance,bilderbergsuc ks? Roy Stockdill
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3:27pm Wed 22 May 13

bilderbergsucks says...

Roy, just remember who owns you

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=acLW1vFO-

2Q
Roy, just remember who owns you http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=acLW1vFO- 2Q bilderbergsucks
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3:27pm Wed 22 May 13

bilderbergsucks says...

The Story of Your Enslavement

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=Xbp6umQT5

8A
The Story of Your Enslavement http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=Xbp6umQT5 8A bilderbergsucks
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3:41pm Wed 22 May 13

bilderbergsucks says...

Bilderberg Bombing Campaign Exposed By Top Italian Supreme Court Judge

http://www.dailypaul
.com/284590/bilderbe
rg-bombing-campaign-
exposed-by-top-itali
an-supreme-court-jud
ge
Bilderberg Bombing Campaign Exposed By Top Italian Supreme Court Judge http://www.dailypaul .com/284590/bilderbe rg-bombing-campaign- exposed-by-top-itali an-supreme-court-jud ge bilderbergsucks
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3:50pm Wed 22 May 13

bilderbergsucks says...

Some people have know about this stuff for years..

Beppe Grillo About Our Money System 1998

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=eyCpidT53
nY&feature=player_em
bedded
Some people have know about this stuff for years.. Beppe Grillo About Our Money System 1998 http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=eyCpidT53 nY&feature=player_em bedded bilderbergsucks
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5:34pm Wed 22 May 13

Justin Case, MSW says...

The criminal activity people should be concerned with are the criminals meeting in violation of The Logan Act.

However, there was a time when Bilderberg was regarded as a theory, so this is progress.

We will keep fighting for the rest of you until you wake up.
The criminal activity people should be concerned with are the criminals meeting in violation of The Logan Act. However, there was a time when Bilderberg was regarded as a theory, so this is progress. We will keep fighting for the rest of you until you wake up. Justin Case, MSW
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7:25pm Wed 22 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

The what? Whatever it is, I don't think it applies in this country.
The what? Whatever it is, I don't think it applies in this country. Roy Stockdill
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7:30pm Wed 22 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

>Roy, just remember who owns you<

Nobody owns me, sunshine. I'm actually modestly well off and and my wife and I own properties worth over a million quid.

But does that make me one of the people you silly little pillocks are protesting about? Funny thing, I haven't been invited to this Bilderberg conference, whatever it is.
>Roy, just remember who owns you< Nobody owns me, sunshine. I'm actually modestly well off and and my wife and I own properties worth over a million quid. But does that make me one of the people you silly little pillocks are protesting about? Funny thing, I haven't been invited to this Bilderberg conference, whatever it is. Roy Stockdill
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11:14pm Wed 22 May 13

LSC says...

"Yes, that's why 'we' will be protesting against these corporatist elitists who are meeting in Watford to further their interests at the expense of ours.

We don't want their wars, or their economic and social tyranny.


Nor do we want their corporate takeover of our democracy and our sovereignty."

I see, so democracy to you is shouting until you are blue in the face and getting in the way of traffic, until you get YOUR way.

How very balanced.

Let me suggest another way. Every citizen of a certain age is given a vote. Every citizen can apply to be a candidate for that vote, given certain criteria.
The one with the most votes, wins.

Now wait a minute, I've seen that system somewhere...
"Yes, that's why 'we' will be protesting against these corporatist elitists who are meeting in Watford to further their interests at the expense of ours. We don't want their wars, or their economic and social tyranny. Nor do we want their corporate takeover of our democracy and our sovereignty." I see, so democracy to you is shouting until you are blue in the face and getting in the way of traffic, until you get YOUR way. How very balanced. Let me suggest another way. Every citizen of a certain age is given a vote. Every citizen can apply to be a candidate for that vote, given certain criteria. The one with the most votes, wins. Now wait a minute, I've seen that system somewhere... LSC
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6:47pm Thu 23 May 13

inquisitive mind says...

@garston tony 'Who have researched what the Bilderbergers represent'.

Try this! a wee bit longer than x factor.

Commander Carr made this speech in 1958 slightly before his death.

http://arcticbeacon.
com/sound_tidbits/Wi
lliam_Guy_Carr-Autho
r_of_Pawns_in_the_Ga
me.mp3
or even

http://dutroux.blogs
pot.co.uk/2008/07/ch
ild-abuse-fascist-ne
tworks-and.html
or even
http://aangirfan.blo
gspot.co.uk/2008/02/
madeleine-mccann-bil
derberg-belgium.html
to quote
it was described how a cabal of highest level players, including judges, lawyers, top bankers, prime ministers and aristocrats were involved in child abuse and snuff networks (going right up to Bilderberg and the Nazi Stay-Behind networks)

look up the-CFR (council for foreign relations) see what they get up to
and not just your quick scan of Google,as your "research" suggest.
really do some Reading..

There is a certain irony in the words of fear expressed by local authorities. By stating that crime and disorder are to be expected come June, the local Hertfordshire police inadvertently have a point: the only possible criminal activity going on- albeit in a most orderly way- will be the fact that. elected officials will be mingling with the world’s financial en economic elites without any detailed record or outside observers to democratically check the proceedings.
When are these people finally going to be arrested for crimes against the humanity and for anti democratic manipulation of the world economy and laws.
Mr garston,may i Suggest that you and all yours, turn of the TV.. and get some Deep researching in' before June..

All Bilderberg'es who attend should be be arrested, for plotting the economic terrorism against the rest of the world..

If the masses were awake to this evil, and Who these people are, there would be millions, protesting.and watford should be a standstill...

sadly, x factor is on...
ps
Have you ever heard the words
ABOVE THE LAW...
well,you can meet them in June.
@garston tony 'Who have researched what the Bilderbergers represent'. Try this! a wee bit longer than x factor. Commander Carr made this speech in 1958 slightly before his death. http://arcticbeacon. com/sound_tidbits/Wi lliam_Guy_Carr-Autho r_of_Pawns_in_the_Ga me.mp3 or even http://dutroux.blogs pot.co.uk/2008/07/ch ild-abuse-fascist-ne tworks-and.html or even http://aangirfan.blo gspot.co.uk/2008/02/ madeleine-mccann-bil derberg-belgium.html to quote it was described how a cabal of highest level players, including judges, lawyers, top bankers, prime ministers and aristocrats were involved in child abuse and snuff networks (going right up to Bilderberg and the Nazi Stay-Behind networks) look up the-CFR (council for foreign relations) see what they get up to and not just your quick scan of Google,as your "research" suggest. really do some Reading.. There is a certain irony in the words of fear expressed by local authorities. By stating that crime and disorder are to be expected come June, the local Hertfordshire police inadvertently have a point: the only possible criminal activity going on- albeit in a most orderly way- will be the fact that. elected officials will be mingling with the world’s financial en economic elites without any detailed record or outside observers to democratically check the proceedings. When are these people finally going to be arrested for crimes against the humanity and for anti democratic manipulation of the world economy and laws. Mr garston,may i Suggest that you and all yours, turn of the TV.. and get some Deep researching in' before June.. All Bilderberg'es who attend should be be arrested, for plotting the economic terrorism against the rest of the world.. If the masses were awake to this evil, and Who these people are, there would be millions, protesting.and watford should be a standstill... sadly, x factor is on... ps Have you ever heard the words ABOVE THE LAW... well,you can meet them in June. inquisitive mind
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7:01pm Thu 23 May 13

inquisitive mind says...

ammendment , comander carr's link does not work so have the pdf of the book.
http://arcticbeacon.
com/books/Carr-Satan
Prince_of_This_World
_%28Luciferian_consp
iracy_exposed%29_%28
1959%29.pdf
ammendment , comander carr's link does not work so have the pdf of the book. http://arcticbeacon. com/books/Carr-Satan Prince_of_This_World _%28Luciferian_consp iracy_exposed%29_%28 1959%29.pdf inquisitive mind
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7:22pm Thu 23 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

It's a wonder bilderbergsucks and his barmy chums haven't blamed the Bilderberg mob for yesterday's horrific murder of a solider in London by two mad animals.

Surely their warped minds must be able to paint a scenario?
It's a wonder bilderbergsucks and his barmy chums haven't blamed the Bilderberg mob for yesterday's horrific murder of a solider in London by two mad animals. Surely their warped minds must be able to paint a scenario? Roy Stockdill
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8:48pm Thu 23 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

I am just watching a documentary on Channel 5 about the book and film The Da Vinci Code, which propagated the conspiracy theory that descendants of Jesus Christ via his affair with the prostitute Mary Magdalene, based on an earlier book entitled The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail and concerning the Knights Templar, are running the world.

Does this sound familiar? Maybe the members of the Bilderberg Group are also descendants of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene. Will the Holy Grail be found in Watford? Where are the Monty Python gang when you need them?
I am just watching a documentary on Channel 5 about the book and film The Da Vinci Code, which propagated the conspiracy theory that descendants of Jesus Christ via his affair with the prostitute Mary Magdalene, based on an earlier book entitled The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail and concerning the Knights Templar, are running the world. Does this sound familiar? Maybe the members of the Bilderberg Group are also descendants of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene. Will the Holy Grail be found in Watford? Where are the Monty Python gang when you need them? Roy Stockdill
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8:53pm Thu 23 May 13

LSC says...

"Carr believes that an age-old Jewish Illuminati banking conspiracy used radio-transmitted mind control on behalf of Lucifer to construct a one world government."

That was in 1955. Not doing very well, are they?

And RADIO control? Radio waves not discovered in 60 years when I can buy a scanner myself from the 'net for peanuts? Ah, yes, microwaves were a bit of a mystery to people back then and Mr Carr left school at 14 with no formal education and ran away to sea.

A very credible source of information about world politics.
"Carr believes that an age-old Jewish Illuminati banking conspiracy used radio-transmitted mind control on behalf of Lucifer to construct a one world government." That was in 1955. Not doing very well, are they? And RADIO control? Radio waves not discovered in 60 years when I can buy a scanner myself from the 'net for peanuts? Ah, yes, microwaves were a bit of a mystery to people back then and Mr Carr left school at 14 with no formal education and ran away to sea. A very credible source of information about world politics. LSC
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9:10pm Thu 23 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

It all sounds rather like the crackpot theories and books of Lafayette Ron Hubbard, a third-rate American pulp science fiction writer who couldn't sell his daft books, so he invented a bogus religion called Scientology and made millions out of it.
It all sounds rather like the crackpot theories and books of Lafayette Ron Hubbard, a third-rate American pulp science fiction writer who couldn't sell his daft books, so he invented a bogus religion called Scientology and made millions out of it. Roy Stockdill
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10:38pm Thu 23 May 13

bilderbergsucks says...

So you want some 'facts' about Bilderberg?

Have some..

The founder was a criminal ex Nazi, no debate, fact.

Ferdinando Imposimato of the Italian supreme court has made the accusation that Bilderberg were behind operation Gladio (false flag terrorism) No debate fact.


Kissenger, the war criminal, is on the steering committee.
No debate fact.


The mass media refused to report on the meeting for about 45 YEARS, even when their representatives attended, no debate, fact.


The conference violates the Logan act, no debate, fact.
So you want some 'facts' about Bilderberg? Have some.. The founder was a criminal ex Nazi, no debate, fact. Ferdinando Imposimato of the Italian supreme court has made the accusation that Bilderberg were behind operation Gladio (false flag terrorism) No debate fact. Kissenger, the war criminal, is on the steering committee. No debate fact. The mass media refused to report on the meeting for about 45 YEARS, even when their representatives attended, no debate, fact. The conference violates the Logan act, no debate, fact. bilderbergsucks
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11:12pm Thu 23 May 13

bilderbergsucks says...

"Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world."
-Henry Kissinger
"Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world." -Henry Kissinger bilderbergsucks
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12:00am Fri 24 May 13

LSC says...

bilderbergsucks wrote:
&quot;Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world."
-Henry Kissinger
These people are often referred to as 'Democractically elected governments'.

Look them up, they are quite fun.
[quote][p][bold]bilderbergsucks[/bold] wrote: "Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world." -Henry Kissinger[/p][/quote]These people are often referred to as 'Democractically elected governments'. Look them up, they are quite fun. LSC
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12:13am Fri 24 May 13

LSC says...

"The founder was a criminal ex Nazi, no debate, fact."

So was the last pope, did you protest?

"Kissenger, the war criminal, is on the steering committee.
No debate fact."

Please list the court dates and his convictions. In MY world, you are innocent until proven guilty. But I'm a sucker for justice like that.

"The mass media refused to report on the meeting for about 45 YEARS, even when their representatives attended, no debate, fact."

You think so? The NOTW was closed down recently because they would report ANYTHING. And yet not one paper for 45 years could be bothered to back your claims. Not even the Sunday Sport, who reported a B17 plane and a London bus on the moon.
On that basis, I find your claims unlikely.
"The founder was a criminal ex Nazi, no debate, fact." So was the last pope, did you protest? "Kissenger, the war criminal, is on the steering committee. No debate fact." Please list the court dates and his convictions. In MY world, you are innocent until proven guilty. But I'm a sucker for justice like that. "The mass media refused to report on the meeting for about 45 YEARS, even when their representatives attended, no debate, fact." You think so? The NOTW was closed down recently because they would report ANYTHING. And yet not one paper for 45 years could be bothered to back your claims. Not even the Sunday Sport, who reported a B17 plane and a London bus on the moon. On that basis, I find your claims unlikely. LSC
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9:10am Fri 24 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

I am beginning to wonder whether bilderbergsucks is L Ron Hubbard, the founder of the Scientologists, reincarnated.

Of course, I don't believe in reincarnation, so he can't be, but his conspiracy theory ramblings are just as daft as Hubbard's.
I am beginning to wonder whether bilderbergsucks is L Ron Hubbard, the founder of the Scientologists, reincarnated. Of course, I don't believe in reincarnation, so he can't be, but his conspiracy theory ramblings are just as daft as Hubbard's. Roy Stockdill
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11:10am Fri 24 May 13

bilderbergsucks says...

GT I answered you on the other thread but I'll put it here for the record,

Kissenger IS a war criminal, if there was any 'justice' he would be done for war crimes.
The blood that man has on his hands is truly disgusting, his input on murderous US foreign policy was huge in his day.

Bush is a war criminal. so was Blair.
They should all be put before the Hague, just because these initiators of extreme unprovoked violence don't get prosecuted doesn't mean they haven't got the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent men women and children on their hands, they have, and that's a fact.

Get used to it and don't forget the millions of refugees they're responsible for too.

. When a leader repeatedly lies and uses crooked data to drag a nation into a war of aggression against another nation that poses no threat whatsoever it's a fkn war crime. I suggest you consult the UN charter for verification.

Israel has broken the UN charter with regard to their treatment of the Palestinians many, many times, they never get held to account for their crimes, even you couldn't deny that. The facts speak for themselves.

Try to understand that there is little 'justice' in the world.

If it was your family who had been murdered by these war mongers you'd agree, but because it's people with a slightly darker shade of skin colour, many miles away, who practice a different faith, you will not agree.

But the truth is the truth, whether you like it or not.

Ferdinando Imposimato is the Honorary President of the Supreme Court of Italy
a prosecutor and investigator, the 'conspiracy theorist' label you give him is merely something you have made up, an opinion. Prove he is..

http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Ferdinando_

Imposimato

And while you're at it prove that I am one too.


"Prince Bernhard was a member of the Nazi party"
I state it, you state it, it is an established FACT.

I don't care for your justifications for the man due to his war effort, so what if he changed sides? Perhaps he did so because he didn't want to be on the losing one.

What you fail to mention is that as well as being a Nazi he was corrupt and he was convicted for it too.Fact.



"frank discussions on a subject does not equate to negotiating"

That OPINION can only be established as a fact if the meetings were transparent, they aren't so..

The US government officials who attend (I guarantee some will) are breaking the Logan act, Fact.


" you come over as the classic nutty conspiracy theorist."


And you GT come over as an apologist for globalist fascists, a top of the range propaganda consumer , an establishment hugger, and a statist to boot.
GT I answered you on the other thread but I'll put it here for the record, Kissenger IS a war criminal, if there was any 'justice' he would be done for war crimes. The blood that man has on his hands is truly disgusting, his input on murderous US foreign policy was huge in his day. Bush is a war criminal. so was Blair. They should all be put before the Hague, just because these initiators of extreme unprovoked violence don't get prosecuted doesn't mean they haven't got the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent men women and children on their hands, they have, and that's a fact. Get used to it and don't forget the millions of refugees they're responsible for too. . When a leader repeatedly lies and uses crooked data to drag a nation into a war of aggression against another nation that poses no threat whatsoever it's a fkn war crime. I suggest you consult the UN charter for verification. Israel has broken the UN charter with regard to their treatment of the Palestinians many, many times, they never get held to account for their crimes, even you couldn't deny that. The facts speak for themselves. Try to understand that there is little 'justice' in the world. If it was your family who had been murdered by these war mongers you'd agree, but because it's people with a slightly darker shade of skin colour, many miles away, who practice a different faith, you will not agree. But the truth is the truth, whether you like it or not. Ferdinando Imposimato is the Honorary President of the Supreme Court of Italy a prosecutor and investigator, the 'conspiracy theorist' label you give him is merely something you have made up, an opinion. Prove he is.. http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Ferdinando_ Imposimato And while you're at it prove that I am one too. "Prince Bernhard was a member of the Nazi party" I state it, you state it, it is an established FACT. I don't care for your justifications for the man due to his war effort, so what if he changed sides? Perhaps he did so because he didn't want to be on the losing one. What you fail to mention is that as well as being a Nazi he was corrupt and he was convicted for it too.Fact. "frank discussions on a subject does not equate to negotiating" That OPINION can only be established as a fact if the meetings were transparent, they aren't so.. The US government officials who attend (I guarantee some will) are breaking the Logan act, Fact. " you come over as the classic nutty conspiracy theorist." And you GT come over as an apologist for globalist fascists, a top of the range propaganda consumer , an establishment hugger, and a statist to boot. bilderbergsucks
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11:40am Fri 24 May 13

No Wheels says...

"Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel peace prize."
"Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel peace prize." No Wheels
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11:43am Fri 24 May 13

bilderbergsucks says...

No 'justice' for them..

Madeleine Albright Says Deaths Of 500,000 Iraqi Children Is worth it

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=R0WDCYcUJ
4o
No 'justice' for them.. Madeleine Albright Says Deaths Of 500,000 Iraqi Children Is worth it http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=R0WDCYcUJ 4o bilderbergsucks
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12:13pm Fri 24 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

Wars, along with famines, plagues and natural disasters, are one of nature's ways of keeping down the population of the planet to sustainable levels - always have been, ever since mankind first crawled out of the sea. Sad but true, so better get used to it.

Some wars are justified. Would you argue, for instance, that World War II against Hitler and the Nazis wasn't justified?
Wars, along with famines, plagues and natural disasters, are one of nature's ways of keeping down the population of the planet to sustainable levels - always have been, ever since mankind first crawled out of the sea. Sad but true, so better get used to it. Some wars are justified. Would you argue, for instance, that World War II against Hitler and the Nazis wasn't justified? Roy Stockdill
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12:43pm Fri 24 May 13

Roy Stockdill says...

In the Middle East two lots of Muslims, both claiming to worship Allah, are constantly slaughtering each other because they are mostly still living in the Middle Ages.

In Ireland we had two lots of Christians slaughtering one another, both claiming to worship the same God.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how your Bilderberg conspiracy culprits are behind those conflicts? Isn't it far more likely that it's down to religious fanaticism?

And if Bush and Blair are war criminals, what does that make Saddam Hussein? How many of his own people did he slaughter, also in Kuwait? And what about the genocidal regimes in Africa, slaughtering people simply because they belong to a different tribe? What do you have to say about Syria?

But, of course, it's only western governments that are guilty of war-mongering in your naive and twisted mind, isn't it?
In the Middle East two lots of Muslims, both claiming to worship Allah, are constantly slaughtering each other because they are mostly still living in the Middle Ages. In Ireland we had two lots of Christians slaughtering one another, both claiming to worship the same God. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how your Bilderberg conspiracy culprits are behind those conflicts? Isn't it far more likely that it's down to religious fanaticism? And if Bush and Blair are war criminals, what does that make Saddam Hussein? How many of his own people did he slaughter, also in Kuwait? And what about the genocidal regimes in Africa, slaughtering people simply because they belong to a different tribe? What do you have to say about Syria? But, of course, it's only western governments that are guilty of war-mongering in your naive and twisted mind, isn't it? Roy Stockdill
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1:11pm Fri 24 May 13

LSC says...

bilderbergsucks wrote:
No 'justice' for them..

Madeleine Albright Says Deaths Of 500,000 Iraqi Children Is worth it

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=R0WDCYcUJ

4o
Saddam invaded Iran in 1980, causing the estimated death toll of around 2 million soldiers and civilians. The number of Marsh Arabs, Kurds and Kuwaities he killed is unknown.
There were few casualties when he fired Scud missiles into Israeli public areas, but only by luck.

He obviously thought it was worth it.
[quote][p][bold]bilderbergsucks[/bold] wrote: No 'justice' for them.. Madeleine Albright Says Deaths Of 500,000 Iraqi Children Is worth it http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=R0WDCYcUJ 4o[/p][/quote]Saddam invaded Iran in 1980, causing the estimated death toll of around 2 million soldiers and civilians. The number of Marsh Arabs, Kurds and Kuwaities he killed is unknown. There were few casualties when he fired Scud missiles into Israeli public areas, but only by luck. He obviously thought it was worth it. LSC
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