Bilderberg activists criticise "lack of engagement" from police and council after Cassiobury Park event is rejected

Anti-Bilderberg activists have hit out at Watford Borough Council and police after their application to hold a fringe festival event in Cassiobury Park during the controversial conference was turned down.

The Bilderberg Welcoming Committee which is looking to organise a "family-oriented festival featuring entertainment including bands, DJs, speakers, public debate, theatre and art. Music genres are folk, jazz, world music and reggae” called the Bilderberg Fringe Festival.

Yet, after the application for a Temporary Events Notice (TEN) from June 7 to June 9 had been rejected by Watford Borough Council, the activists accused the council and police of “a lack of engagement”.

In a joint statement, members of the Bilderberg Welcoming Committee said: "We are disappointed that the Temporary Event Notice for our proposed event in Cassiobury Park is likely to be turned down.

“We have worked very closely with police in good faith in order to find a site which would cause minimum disruption to residents, and to the security arrangements around the Grove hotel, but have been frustrated during the last few weeks with a lack of engagement from both council and the police at a higher level.

“By providing an alternative focal point for people to use their right to express themselves that was away from the Grove hotel we had hoped to reduce the pressure in what is a contentious area (the Grove gates).

“The safest and most appropriate place for people to gather was deemed Cassiobury Park, but with the decision makers in charge of community safety refusing to make any effort to appropriately engage and plan with the festival organisers, the hope of providing a safe area away from the Grove hotel has now proved impossible.

“Watford Council should realise that public and press are coming to the area to document the conference and express their legitimate concerns about the way the Bilderberg group operates - and these crowds are coming anyway, regardless of whether a site for the Bilderberg Fringe Festival is found or not.”

Thousands of activists are expected to descend on Watford to protest the secretive and controversial meeting of politicians, billionaire business leaders, media moguls and royals at the The Grove hotel from June 6 to June 9.

This is the first time in 15 years the annual meeting has been held in the UK and cabinet minister Ken Clarke, billionaire PayPal owner Peter Thiel and Henri de Castries, the Chairman and CEO of AXA, are expected to be among the attendees.

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7:45pm Thu 30 May 13

pepsiman says...

The Conference will deal mainly with Challenges for Growth: Innovation and Budgetary Discipline, the Euro and Challenges for the European Union, the role of Emerging Economies, Social Networks: Connectivity and Security Issues, New Challenges in the Middle East, Conflict Areas, Demographic Challenges, China, Switzerland: Can it remain successful in the future?
Approximately 170 participants will attend of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America and other countries. About one-third is from government and politics, and two-thirds are from finance, industry, labor, education, and communications. The meeting is private in order to encourage frank and open discussion.
Bilderberg takes its name from the hotel in Holland, where the first meeting took place in May 1954. That pioneering meeting grew out of the concern expressed by leading citizens on both sides of the Atlantic that Western Europe and North America were not working together as closely as they should on common problems of critical importance. It was felt that regular, off-the-record discussions would help create a better understanding of the complex forces and major trends affecting Western nations in the difficult post-war period.
The Cold War has now ended. But in practically all respects there are more, not fewer, common problems – from trade to jobs, from monetary policy to investment, from ecological challenges to the task of promoting international security. It is hard to think of any major issue in either Europe or North America whose unilateral solution would not have repercussions for the other.
Thus the concept of a European-American forum has not been overtaken by time. The dialogue between these two regions is still – even increasingly – critical.
What is unique about Bilderberg as a forum is the broad cross-section of leading citizens that are assembled for nearly three days of informal and off-the-record discussion about topics of current concern especially in the fields of foreign affairs and the international economy; the strong feeling among participants that in view of the differing attitudes and experiences of the Western nations, there remains a clear need to further develop an understanding in which these concerns can be accommodated; the privacy of the meetings, which has no purpose other than to allow participants to speak their minds openly and freely.
In short, Bilderberg is a small, flexible, informal and off-the-record international forum in which different viewpoints can be expressed and mutual understanding enhanced.
Bilderberg’s only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued. Since 1954, fifty-eight conferences have been held. The names of the participants are made available to the press. Participants are chosen for their experience, their knowledge, and their standing; all participants attend Bilderberg in a private and not an official capacity.
The Conference will deal mainly with Challenges for Growth: Innovation and Budgetary Discipline, the Euro and Challenges for the European Union, the role of Emerging Economies, Social Networks: Connectivity and Security Issues, New Challenges in the Middle East, Conflict Areas, Demographic Challenges, China, Switzerland: Can it remain successful in the future? Approximately 170 participants will attend of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America and other countries. About one-third is from government and politics, and two-thirds are from finance, industry, labor, education, and communications. The meeting is private in order to encourage frank and open discussion. Bilderberg takes its name from the hotel in Holland, where the first meeting took place in May 1954. That pioneering meeting grew out of the concern expressed by leading citizens on both sides of the Atlantic that Western Europe and North America were not working together as closely as they should on common problems of critical importance. It was felt that regular, off-the-record discussions would help create a better understanding of the complex forces and major trends affecting Western nations in the difficult post-war period. The Cold War has now ended. But in practically all respects there are more, not fewer, common problems – from trade to jobs, from monetary policy to investment, from ecological challenges to the task of promoting international security. It is hard to think of any major issue in either Europe or North America whose unilateral solution would not have repercussions for the other. Thus the concept of a European-American forum has not been overtaken by time. The dialogue between these two regions is still – even increasingly – critical. What is unique about Bilderberg as a forum is the broad cross-section of leading citizens that are assembled for nearly three days of informal and off-the-record discussion about topics of current concern especially in the fields of foreign affairs and the international economy; the strong feeling among participants that in view of the differing attitudes and experiences of the Western nations, there remains a clear need to further develop an understanding in which these concerns can be accommodated; the privacy of the meetings, which has no purpose other than to allow participants to speak their minds openly and freely. In short, Bilderberg is a small, flexible, informal and off-the-record international forum in which different viewpoints can be expressed and mutual understanding enhanced. Bilderberg’s only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued. Since 1954, fifty-eight conferences have been held. The names of the participants are made available to the press. Participants are chosen for their experience, their knowledge, and their standing; all participants attend Bilderberg in a private and not an official capacity. pepsiman
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12:02am Fri 31 May 13

No such thing as conspiracy says...

pepsiman wrote:
The Conference will deal mainly with Challenges for Growth: Innovation and Budgetary Discipline, the Euro and Challenges for the European Union, the role of Emerging Economies, Social Networks: Connectivity and Security Issues, New Challenges in the Middle East, Conflict Areas, Demographic Challenges, China, Switzerland: Can it remain successful in the future?
Approximately 170 participants will attend of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America and other countries. About one-third is from government and politics, and two-thirds are from finance, industry, labor, education, and communications. The meeting is private in order to encourage frank and open discussion.
Bilderberg takes its name from the hotel in Holland, where the first meeting took place in May 1954. That pioneering meeting grew out of the concern expressed by leading citizens on both sides of the Atlantic that Western Europe and North America were not working together as closely as they should on common problems of critical importance. It was felt that regular, off-the-record discussions would help create a better understanding of the complex forces and major trends affecting Western nations in the difficult post-war period.
The Cold War has now ended. But in practically all respects there are more, not fewer, common problems – from trade to jobs, from monetary policy to investment, from ecological challenges to the task of promoting international security. It is hard to think of any major issue in either Europe or North America whose unilateral solution would not have repercussions for the other.
Thus the concept of a European-American forum has not been overtaken by time. The dialogue between these two regions is still – even increasingly – critical.
What is unique about Bilderberg as a forum is the broad cross-section of leading citizens that are assembled for nearly three days of informal and off-the-record discussion about topics of current concern especially in the fields of foreign affairs and the international economy; the strong feeling among participants that in view of the differing attitudes and experiences of the Western nations, there remains a clear need to further develop an understanding in which these concerns can be accommodated; the privacy of the meetings, which has no purpose other than to allow participants to speak their minds openly and freely.
In short, Bilderberg is a small, flexible, informal and off-the-record international forum in which different viewpoints can be expressed and mutual understanding enhanced.
Bilderberg’s only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued. Since 1954, fifty-eight conferences have been held. The names of the participants are made available to the press. Participants are chosen for their experience, their knowledge, and their standing; all participants attend Bilderberg in a private and not an official capacity.
Who are you? Bilderberg's minister for propaganda? Did you pull that straight from their website or Wikipedia?

So we are expected to believe that everything discussed is not acted on by the members when they return to their respective countries?

What is the point of the meeting then? Why are they afraid of what the public might think if they knew what they were discussing?

Why did Blair and Bill Clinton both attend meetings before they were chosen to lead their respective parties in the next elections? Why did both Obama and Hillary Clinton attend before the Democratic primaries in 08? Why did Herman van Rompay attend the year before he was appointed European President?

The ignorant can continue to pretend that this meeting is unimportant and has no bearing on future political and economic decisions of those that attend. They seem to be in the process of externalising their planning anyway. They are uncloaking and revealing more of their intentions for global governance.

It was only recently that Bilderberg admitted they existed and created their website. Before that it was just the delusions of conspiracy theorists. Why the change of tune after 50 years?

Doesn't it worry you that Bilderberg is only one of dozens of meetings where the smug unelected, the tax cheats, the greedy monopolisers, the inbred royalty and transhumanist tech heads discuss the future of the planet without any public input? It doesn't worry you they don't want anything they discuss made available to us, but they sure as hell will implement it later down the road?

The council may have stopped the festival from going ahead but that won't stop protestors going to Watford to bullhorn the entry of these traitors as they slink into the hotel grounds in their black windowed carriages.

Nothing is funnier than Henry Kissinger slumped in the back seat of a car trying to avoid being seen. What an idiot. If they were so proud of what they are doing they wouldn't be so afraid of a few protestors.

They know, that we know, what they really are up to.

Just remember to bring a red filter for the camera and get a nice snap of these shameful globalist scum hiding their faces behind black glass.
[quote][p][bold]pepsiman[/bold] wrote: The Conference will deal mainly with Challenges for Growth: Innovation and Budgetary Discipline, the Euro and Challenges for the European Union, the role of Emerging Economies, Social Networks: Connectivity and Security Issues, New Challenges in the Middle East, Conflict Areas, Demographic Challenges, China, Switzerland: Can it remain successful in the future? Approximately 170 participants will attend of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America and other countries. About one-third is from government and politics, and two-thirds are from finance, industry, labor, education, and communications. The meeting is private in order to encourage frank and open discussion. Bilderberg takes its name from the hotel in Holland, where the first meeting took place in May 1954. That pioneering meeting grew out of the concern expressed by leading citizens on both sides of the Atlantic that Western Europe and North America were not working together as closely as they should on common problems of critical importance. It was felt that regular, off-the-record discussions would help create a better understanding of the complex forces and major trends affecting Western nations in the difficult post-war period. The Cold War has now ended. But in practically all respects there are more, not fewer, common problems – from trade to jobs, from monetary policy to investment, from ecological challenges to the task of promoting international security. It is hard to think of any major issue in either Europe or North America whose unilateral solution would not have repercussions for the other. Thus the concept of a European-American forum has not been overtaken by time. The dialogue between these two regions is still – even increasingly – critical. What is unique about Bilderberg as a forum is the broad cross-section of leading citizens that are assembled for nearly three days of informal and off-the-record discussion about topics of current concern especially in the fields of foreign affairs and the international economy; the strong feeling among participants that in view of the differing attitudes and experiences of the Western nations, there remains a clear need to further develop an understanding in which these concerns can be accommodated; the privacy of the meetings, which has no purpose other than to allow participants to speak their minds openly and freely. In short, Bilderberg is a small, flexible, informal and off-the-record international forum in which different viewpoints can be expressed and mutual understanding enhanced. Bilderberg’s only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued. Since 1954, fifty-eight conferences have been held. The names of the participants are made available to the press. Participants are chosen for their experience, their knowledge, and their standing; all participants attend Bilderberg in a private and not an official capacity.[/p][/quote]Who are you? Bilderberg's minister for propaganda? Did you pull that straight from their website or Wikipedia? So we are expected to believe that everything discussed is not acted on by the members when they return to their respective countries? What is the point of the meeting then? Why are they afraid of what the public might think if they knew what they were discussing? Why did Blair and Bill Clinton both attend meetings before they were chosen to lead their respective parties in the next elections? Why did both Obama and Hillary Clinton attend before the Democratic primaries in 08? Why did Herman van Rompay attend the year before he was appointed European President? The ignorant can continue to pretend that this meeting is unimportant and has no bearing on future political and economic decisions of those that attend. They seem to be in the process of externalising their planning anyway. They are uncloaking and revealing more of their intentions for global governance. It was only recently that Bilderberg admitted they existed and created their website. Before that it was just the delusions of conspiracy theorists. Why the change of tune after 50 years? Doesn't it worry you that Bilderberg is only one of dozens of meetings where the smug unelected, the tax cheats, the greedy monopolisers, the inbred royalty and transhumanist tech heads discuss the future of the planet without any public input? It doesn't worry you they don't want anything they discuss made available to us, but they sure as hell will implement it later down the road? The council may have stopped the festival from going ahead but that won't stop protestors going to Watford to bullhorn the entry of these traitors as they slink into the hotel grounds in their black windowed carriages. Nothing is funnier than Henry Kissinger slumped in the back seat of a car trying to avoid being seen. What an idiot. If they were so proud of what they are doing they wouldn't be so afraid of a few protestors. They know, that we know, what they really are up to. Just remember to bring a red filter for the camera and get a nice snap of these shameful globalist scum hiding their faces behind black glass. No such thing as conspiracy
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12:19am Fri 31 May 13

underterraingrunter says...

No such thing as conspiracy wrote:
pepsiman wrote:
The Conference will deal mainly with Challenges for Growth: Innovation and Budgetary Discipline, the Euro and Challenges for the European Union, the role of Emerging Economies, Social Networks: Connectivity and Security Issues, New Challenges in the Middle East, Conflict Areas, Demographic Challenges, China, Switzerland: Can it remain successful in the future?
Approximately 170 participants will attend of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America and other countries. About one-third is from government and politics, and two-thirds are from finance, industry, labor, education, and communications. The meeting is private in order to encourage frank and open discussion.
Bilderberg takes its name from the hotel in Holland, where the first meeting took place in May 1954. That pioneering meeting grew out of the concern expressed by leading citizens on both sides of the Atlantic that Western Europe and North America were not working together as closely as they should on common problems of critical importance. It was felt that regular, off-the-record discussions would help create a better understanding of the complex forces and major trends affecting Western nations in the difficult post-war period.
The Cold War has now ended. But in practically all respects there are more, not fewer, common problems – from trade to jobs, from monetary policy to investment, from ecological challenges to the task of promoting international security. It is hard to think of any major issue in either Europe or North America whose unilateral solution would not have repercussions for the other.
Thus the concept of a European-American forum has not been overtaken by time. The dialogue between these two regions is still – even increasingly – critical.
What is unique about Bilderberg as a forum is the broad cross-section of leading citizens that are assembled for nearly three days of informal and off-the-record discussion about topics of current concern especially in the fields of foreign affairs and the international economy; the strong feeling among participants that in view of the differing attitudes and experiences of the Western nations, there remains a clear need to further develop an understanding in which these concerns can be accommodated; the privacy of the meetings, which has no purpose other than to allow participants to speak their minds openly and freely.
In short, Bilderberg is a small, flexible, informal and off-the-record international forum in which different viewpoints can be expressed and mutual understanding enhanced.
Bilderberg’s only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued. Since 1954, fifty-eight conferences have been held. The names of the participants are made available to the press. Participants are chosen for their experience, their knowledge, and their standing; all participants attend Bilderberg in a private and not an official capacity.
Who are you? Bilderberg's minister for propaganda? Did you pull that straight from their website or Wikipedia?

So we are expected to believe that everything discussed is not acted on by the members when they return to their respective countries?

What is the point of the meeting then? Why are they afraid of what the public might think if they knew what they were discussing?

Why did Blair and Bill Clinton both attend meetings before they were chosen to lead their respective parties in the next elections? Why did both Obama and Hillary Clinton attend before the Democratic primaries in 08? Why did Herman van Rompay attend the year before he was appointed European President?

The ignorant can continue to pretend that this meeting is unimportant and has no bearing on future political and economic decisions of those that attend. They seem to be in the process of externalising their planning anyway. They are uncloaking and revealing more of their intentions for global governance.

It was only recently that Bilderberg admitted they existed and created their website. Before that it was just the delusions of conspiracy theorists. Why the change of tune after 50 years?

Doesn't it worry you that Bilderberg is only one of dozens of meetings where the smug unelected, the tax cheats, the greedy monopolisers, the inbred royalty and transhumanist tech heads discuss the future of the planet without any public input? It doesn't worry you they don't want anything they discuss made available to us, but they sure as hell will implement it later down the road?

The council may have stopped the festival from going ahead but that won't stop protestors going to Watford to bullhorn the entry of these traitors as they slink into the hotel grounds in their black windowed carriages.

Nothing is funnier than Henry Kissinger slumped in the back seat of a car trying to avoid being seen. What an idiot. If they were so proud of what they are doing they wouldn't be so afraid of a few protestors.

They know, that we know, what they really are up to.

Just remember to bring a red filter for the camera and get a nice snap of these shameful globalist scum hiding their faces behind black glass.
The point of the Bilderberg meeting is to get to know the newbies and judge their ability to fit in with the group.
There is little discussed or decided that we absolutely must know about. It's just a question of the group approving those newbies who will be involved in discussions and decisions made in places that don't have protestors standing around the gate.
[quote][p][bold]No such thing as conspiracy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pepsiman[/bold] wrote: The Conference will deal mainly with Challenges for Growth: Innovation and Budgetary Discipline, the Euro and Challenges for the European Union, the role of Emerging Economies, Social Networks: Connectivity and Security Issues, New Challenges in the Middle East, Conflict Areas, Demographic Challenges, China, Switzerland: Can it remain successful in the future? Approximately 170 participants will attend of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America and other countries. About one-third is from government and politics, and two-thirds are from finance, industry, labor, education, and communications. The meeting is private in order to encourage frank and open discussion. Bilderberg takes its name from the hotel in Holland, where the first meeting took place in May 1954. That pioneering meeting grew out of the concern expressed by leading citizens on both sides of the Atlantic that Western Europe and North America were not working together as closely as they should on common problems of critical importance. It was felt that regular, off-the-record discussions would help create a better understanding of the complex forces and major trends affecting Western nations in the difficult post-war period. The Cold War has now ended. But in practically all respects there are more, not fewer, common problems – from trade to jobs, from monetary policy to investment, from ecological challenges to the task of promoting international security. It is hard to think of any major issue in either Europe or North America whose unilateral solution would not have repercussions for the other. Thus the concept of a European-American forum has not been overtaken by time. The dialogue between these two regions is still – even increasingly – critical. What is unique about Bilderberg as a forum is the broad cross-section of leading citizens that are assembled for nearly three days of informal and off-the-record discussion about topics of current concern especially in the fields of foreign affairs and the international economy; the strong feeling among participants that in view of the differing attitudes and experiences of the Western nations, there remains a clear need to further develop an understanding in which these concerns can be accommodated; the privacy of the meetings, which has no purpose other than to allow participants to speak their minds openly and freely. In short, Bilderberg is a small, flexible, informal and off-the-record international forum in which different viewpoints can be expressed and mutual understanding enhanced. Bilderberg’s only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued. Since 1954, fifty-eight conferences have been held. The names of the participants are made available to the press. Participants are chosen for their experience, their knowledge, and their standing; all participants attend Bilderberg in a private and not an official capacity.[/p][/quote]Who are you? Bilderberg's minister for propaganda? Did you pull that straight from their website or Wikipedia? So we are expected to believe that everything discussed is not acted on by the members when they return to their respective countries? What is the point of the meeting then? Why are they afraid of what the public might think if they knew what they were discussing? Why did Blair and Bill Clinton both attend meetings before they were chosen to lead their respective parties in the next elections? Why did both Obama and Hillary Clinton attend before the Democratic primaries in 08? Why did Herman van Rompay attend the year before he was appointed European President? The ignorant can continue to pretend that this meeting is unimportant and has no bearing on future political and economic decisions of those that attend. They seem to be in the process of externalising their planning anyway. They are uncloaking and revealing more of their intentions for global governance. It was only recently that Bilderberg admitted they existed and created their website. Before that it was just the delusions of conspiracy theorists. Why the change of tune after 50 years? Doesn't it worry you that Bilderberg is only one of dozens of meetings where the smug unelected, the tax cheats, the greedy monopolisers, the inbred royalty and transhumanist tech heads discuss the future of the planet without any public input? It doesn't worry you they don't want anything they discuss made available to us, but they sure as hell will implement it later down the road? The council may have stopped the festival from going ahead but that won't stop protestors going to Watford to bullhorn the entry of these traitors as they slink into the hotel grounds in their black windowed carriages. Nothing is funnier than Henry Kissinger slumped in the back seat of a car trying to avoid being seen. What an idiot. If they were so proud of what they are doing they wouldn't be so afraid of a few protestors. They know, that we know, what they really are up to. Just remember to bring a red filter for the camera and get a nice snap of these shameful globalist scum hiding their faces behind black glass.[/p][/quote]The point of the Bilderberg meeting is to get to know the newbies and judge their ability to fit in with the group. There is little discussed or decided that we absolutely must know about. It's just a question of the group approving those newbies who will be involved in discussions and decisions made in places that don't have protestors standing around the gate. underterraingrunter
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12:47am Fri 31 May 13

No such thing as conspiracy says...

So true. Picking future prime ministers and presidents, laying out general plans and targets for the future and introducing players from across the wide spectrum of global control mechanisms.

And they also allow women to attend, unlike the bohemian grove party later this year. Where they have their real fun!
So true. Picking future prime ministers and presidents, laying out general plans and targets for the future and introducing players from across the wide spectrum of global control mechanisms. And they also allow women to attend, unlike the bohemian grove party later this year. Where they have their real fun! No such thing as conspiracy
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1:08am Fri 31 May 13

LSC says...

"What is the point of the meeting then? Why are they afraid of what the public might think if they knew what they were discussing?"

So you admit you do not know what they are discussing.

"It doesn't worry you they don't want anything they discuss made available to us, but they sure as hell will implement it later down the road?"

So you admit you don't know what they are discussing, but what their course of action will be.

"They know, that we know, what they really are up to."

So you DO know what they are discussing! Why didn't you say so in the first place?

I admit it is less fun that way, but getting to the point is what wins most of us over.
You see, I have a job and I don't smoke weed so I like to get to the point as soon as possible.

That is a Top Tip, there is no charge for this service.
"What is the point of the meeting then? Why are they afraid of what the public might think if they knew what they were discussing?" So you admit you do not know what they are discussing. "It doesn't worry you they don't want anything they discuss made available to us, but they sure as hell will implement it later down the road?" So you admit you don't know what they are discussing, but what their course of action will be. "They know, that we know, what they really are up to." So you DO know what they are discussing! Why didn't you say so in the first place? I admit it is less fun that way, but getting to the point is what wins most of us over. You see, I have a job and I don't smoke weed so I like to get to the point as soon as possible. That is a Top Tip, there is no charge for this service. LSC
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1:46am Fri 31 May 13

Honest Rog says...

The two apologists for this shadowy group of "worthies" are missing the point. The politicians involved are playing with OUR money, the media barons involved are playing with OUR minds and CEOs of multi nationals such as AXA are taking OUR money. So please remind me why WE shouldn't question the legitimacy of this creepy (think Kissinger) group. Any group that includes Kissinger as a "leading citizen" in it's midst should be viewed with scepticism. For those who have forgotten; this man gave the nod to President Suharto to go ahead with the genocide in East Timor, a conservative estimate is that 250.000 souls perished. This was after the cowardly bombing of Laos and Cambodia which he sanctioned. It escapes me just why anyone would resect anything agreed by this bunch of bullies.
LSC; if your support for Bilderberg was an attempt at humour then I humbly suggest that you don't give up the day job that you're so proud of reminding us that you have at every opportunity.
The two apologists for this shadowy group of "worthies" are missing the point. The politicians involved are playing with OUR money, the media barons involved are playing with OUR minds and CEOs of multi nationals such as AXA are taking OUR money. So please remind me why WE shouldn't question the legitimacy of this creepy (think Kissinger) group. Any group that includes Kissinger as a "leading citizen" in it's midst should be viewed with scepticism. For those who have forgotten; this man gave the nod to President Suharto to go ahead with the genocide in East Timor, a conservative estimate is that 250.000 souls perished. This was after the cowardly bombing of Laos and Cambodia which he sanctioned. It escapes me just why anyone would resect anything agreed by this bunch of bullies. LSC; if your support for Bilderberg was an attempt at humour then I humbly suggest that you don't give up the day job that you're so proud of reminding us that you have at every opportunity. Honest Rog
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6:28am Fri 31 May 13

Mark Watkin says...

2 and half weeks ago NO-ONE in Watford apart from The Grove knew this Conference and all its razmatazz was coming. No planning, consultation NOTHING!!! Then all hell breaks loose. The Grove goes into denial and refuses to accept any responsibility for the consequences of its ego building money making trip. Reports of thousands of protesters heading our way. Next we have the request for a free festtival event first to be held held in a small field in the middle of a residential area now in Cassiobury Park; the Police being forced to make decisions on the fly and in so doing upsetting hundreds of residents etc etc. This is Kafkaesque madness that the Borough Council, local politicians find themselves thrown into the middle of. When in just over a week'time after the circus has left town we will have to pick up the pieces, sort out the mess and make good any damage caused while The Grove of Chandlers Cross wallows in self-congratulations
.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of this globally important meeting and the consequential protests, it is disgraceful that for an event of global significance landing on a community in Hertfordshire NO advanced planning, consultation, risk analysis was carried out. Indeed the first WBC knew about
the event was when Mike Wright in the Wattie O broke the story.

Shambolic; unforgivable; disgraceful are just some of the words I would use to describe the national security people's and The Grove management's failure to engage or to take any responsibility for the chaos that is now ensuing.
2 and half weeks ago NO-ONE in Watford apart from The Grove knew this Conference and all its razmatazz was coming. No planning, consultation NOTHING!!! Then all hell breaks loose. The Grove goes into denial and refuses to accept any responsibility for the consequences of its ego building money making trip. Reports of thousands of protesters heading our way. Next we have the request for a free festtival event first to be held held in a small field in the middle of a residential area now in Cassiobury Park; the Police being forced to make decisions on the fly and in so doing upsetting hundreds of residents etc etc. This is Kafkaesque madness that the Borough Council, local politicians find themselves thrown into the middle of. When in just over a week'time after the circus has left town we will have to pick up the pieces, sort out the mess and make good any damage caused while The Grove of Chandlers Cross wallows in self-congratulations . Whatever the rights and wrongs of this globally important meeting and the consequential protests, it is disgraceful that for an event of global significance landing on a community in Hertfordshire NO advanced planning, consultation, risk analysis was carried out. Indeed the first WBC knew about the event was when Mike Wright in the Wattie O broke the story. Shambolic; unforgivable; disgraceful are just some of the words I would use to describe the national security people's and The Grove management's failure to engage or to take any responsibility for the chaos that is now ensuing. Mark Watkin
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7:16am Fri 31 May 13

Nick Lincoln says...

Mark Watkin wrote:
2 and half weeks ago NO-ONE in Watford apart from The Grove knew this Conference and all its razmatazz was coming. No planning, consultation NOTHING!!! Then all hell breaks loose. The Grove goes into denial and refuses to accept any responsibility for the consequences of its ego building money making trip. Reports of thousands of protesters heading our way. Next we have the request for a free festtival event first to be held held in a small field in the middle of a residential area now in Cassiobury Park; the Police being forced to make decisions on the fly and in so doing upsetting hundreds of residents etc etc. This is Kafkaesque madness that the Borough Council, local politicians find themselves thrown into the middle of. When in just over a week'time after the circus has left town we will have to pick up the pieces, sort out the mess and make good any damage caused while The Grove of Chandlers Cross wallows in self-congratulations

.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of this globally important meeting and the consequential protests, it is disgraceful that for an event of global significance landing on a community in Hertfordshire NO advanced planning, consultation, risk analysis was carried out. Indeed the first WBC knew about
the event was when Mike Wright in the Wattie O broke the story.

Shambolic; unforgivable; disgraceful are just some of the words I would use to describe the national security people's and The Grove management's failure to engage or to take any responsibility for the chaos that is now ensuing.
Firstly, the Bilderberg event at The Grove has been in the public domain since at least 16th April (when I was first told about it via http://www.infowars.
com/bilderberg-uncov
ered-confab-set-to-t
ake-place-in-watford
-UK-June-6-9/).

I would expect any councillor with a grasp of the internet to be able to set up an automated Google Alert so news involving "Watford" posted to the Internet comes to his attention; there are over 30 councillors on Watford Borough Councillor. How come I knew of this event before any of them? What do these people actually do?

So you've actually had at least six weeks (and probably much longer) to get yourselves organised, not two and a half.

As if that isn't inept enough, you then blame The Grove for your travails! Last time I checked The Grove was not a public body but a private, profit-motivated one. Your ranting about "its ego building money making trip" is offensive and peculiar; it perhaps reveals more about your mindset than anything else.

Well done to The Grove. Not sure it's really wallowing in self-congratulations (again, peculiar words) but it's got publicity money couldn't buy. Great effort. At least the management there was ready and alert when the opportunity arose...
[quote][p][bold]Mark Watkin[/bold] wrote: 2 and half weeks ago NO-ONE in Watford apart from The Grove knew this Conference and all its razmatazz was coming. No planning, consultation NOTHING!!! Then all hell breaks loose. The Grove goes into denial and refuses to accept any responsibility for the consequences of its ego building money making trip. Reports of thousands of protesters heading our way. Next we have the request for a free festtival event first to be held held in a small field in the middle of a residential area now in Cassiobury Park; the Police being forced to make decisions on the fly and in so doing upsetting hundreds of residents etc etc. This is Kafkaesque madness that the Borough Council, local politicians find themselves thrown into the middle of. When in just over a week'time after the circus has left town we will have to pick up the pieces, sort out the mess and make good any damage caused while The Grove of Chandlers Cross wallows in self-congratulations . Whatever the rights and wrongs of this globally important meeting and the consequential protests, it is disgraceful that for an event of global significance landing on a community in Hertfordshire NO advanced planning, consultation, risk analysis was carried out. Indeed the first WBC knew about the event was when Mike Wright in the Wattie O broke the story. Shambolic; unforgivable; disgraceful are just some of the words I would use to describe the national security people's and The Grove management's failure to engage or to take any responsibility for the chaos that is now ensuing.[/p][/quote]Firstly, the Bilderberg event at The Grove has been in the public domain since at least 16th April (when I was first told about it via http://www.infowars. com/bilderberg-uncov ered-confab-set-to-t ake-place-in-watford -UK-June-6-9/). I would expect any councillor with a grasp of the internet to be able to set up an automated Google Alert so news involving "Watford" posted to the Internet comes to his attention; there are over 30 councillors on Watford Borough Councillor. How come I knew of this event before any of them? What do these people actually do? So you've actually had at least six weeks (and probably much longer) to get yourselves organised, not two and a half. As if that isn't inept enough, you then blame The Grove for your travails! Last time I checked The Grove was not a public body but a private, profit-motivated one. Your ranting about "its ego building money making trip" is offensive and peculiar; it perhaps reveals more about your mindset than anything else. Well done to The Grove. Not sure it's really wallowing in self-congratulations (again, peculiar words) but it's got publicity money couldn't buy. Great effort. At least the management there was ready and alert when the opportunity arose... Nick Lincoln
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8:07am Fri 31 May 13

dontknowynot says...

@mark Watkin

I am sorry but you are WRONG
1) the first field was not in the middle it was adjacent to a residential area and screened
2) The Cassiobury park event was viable and having the police all ready HQed in between the Grove and the park would have been handy.

two opportunities to provide for a contained and manageable main event have been passed up and the result is that trouble is more likely, shame on you.
@mark Watkin I am sorry but you are WRONG 1) the first field was not in the middle it was adjacent to a residential area and screened 2) The Cassiobury park event was viable and having the police all ready HQed in between the Grove and the park would have been handy. two opportunities to provide for a contained and manageable main event have been passed up and the result is that trouble is more likely, shame on you. dontknowynot
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8:26am Fri 31 May 13

dontknowynot says...

http://www.watfordob
server.co.uk/news/10
403213.World_leaders
_to_hold_summit_in_W
atford

Mark watkin >>/2 and half weeks ago NO-ONE in Watford apart from The Grove knew this Conference and all its razmatazz was coming

I hate to be pedantic but it is clear dfrom the above link that the police know as well I suggest that you take this up with the PCC
http://www.watfordob server.co.uk/news/10 403213.World_leaders _to_hold_summit_in_W atford Mark watkin >>/2 and half weeks ago NO-ONE in Watford apart from The Grove knew this Conference and all its razmatazz was coming I hate to be pedantic but it is clear dfrom the above link that the police know as well I suggest that you take this up with the PCC dontknowynot
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8:49am Fri 31 May 13

garston tony says...

The meeting is only 'controversial' because some people have decided it is based on no facts at all. The whole protest is based on assumption, not a jot of it on actual facts.

And the application was turned down as it wasnt submitted in time and it does sound like it was hastily put together, but once again the protesters choose to ignore that reality and try and make the rejection part of their conspiracy theory.

Thank you pepsiman for your post, it summed up what the meetings are about perfectly and the response from some just shows the strange skewed reasoning of those that protest against it.

I would imagine in many official meetings and negotiations it is difficult to reach a proper agreement or decision because people are trying to play politics, or protect share prices or reputations. I think its great actually that there is a forum where people can meet and have frank open discussions about things. I'm sure the same people protesting about Bilderberg protest about Google and co not paying the rightful taxes in this country, well as we're in the realms of deciding what this group are doing I would imagine that our chancellor would be meeting with ceo's and having an open discussion about the matter and that that leads to companies paying more tax. Why is that a bad thing exactly?

I dont subscribe to the fact that this is some global power grabbing group of people, I do subscribe to the view that meetings like this can cut a lot of the bull and lead towards progress when official meetings and negotiations do happen.



Mark Watkin, why should the Grove or anyone else consult anyone about this meeting? And you seem to want it both ways, on the one hand you're trying to make out that they were trying to keep the meeting secret on the other trying to say the Grove are hosting it to boost their ego. Well that would only work if they were able to advertise that the meeting was taking place there, so which is it wanting to keep it secret or wanting the prestige of being known to have hosted it?

This is typical of the anti bilderbergers, every single thing they say against this group and the meeting doesnt add up, has no evidence or is contradictory. Personally my only concern about the meeting is that I hope the landing pad has been suitably re inforced because i'm told those intergalactic alien spacecraft bringing our true masters are rather large and heavy.
The meeting is only 'controversial' because some people have decided it is based on no facts at all. The whole protest is based on assumption, not a jot of it on actual facts. And the application was turned down as it wasnt submitted in time and it does sound like it was hastily put together, but once again the protesters choose to ignore that reality and try and make the rejection part of their conspiracy theory. Thank you pepsiman for your post, it summed up what the meetings are about perfectly and the response from some just shows the strange skewed reasoning of those that protest against it. I would imagine in many official meetings and negotiations it is difficult to reach a proper agreement or decision because people are trying to play politics, or protect share prices or reputations. I think its great actually that there is a forum where people can meet and have frank open discussions about things. I'm sure the same people protesting about Bilderberg protest about Google and co not paying the rightful taxes in this country, well as we're in the realms of deciding what this group are doing I would imagine that our chancellor would be meeting with ceo's and having an open discussion about the matter and that that leads to companies paying more tax. Why is that a bad thing exactly? I dont subscribe to the fact that this is some global power grabbing group of people, I do subscribe to the view that meetings like this can cut a lot of the bull and lead towards progress when official meetings and negotiations do happen. Mark Watkin, why should the Grove or anyone else consult anyone about this meeting? And you seem to want it both ways, on the one hand you're trying to make out that they were trying to keep the meeting secret on the other trying to say the Grove are hosting it to boost their ego. Well that would only work if they were able to advertise that the meeting was taking place there, so which is it wanting to keep it secret or wanting the prestige of being known to have hosted it? This is typical of the anti bilderbergers, every single thing they say against this group and the meeting doesnt add up, has no evidence or is contradictory. Personally my only concern about the meeting is that I hope the landing pad has been suitably re inforced because i'm told those intergalactic alien spacecraft bringing our true masters are rather large and heavy. garston tony
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8:50am Fri 31 May 13

Hornet supporter says...

I hope Mark Watkin on reflection regrets his previous comments. It does seem that this event has resulted in a very knee jerk reaction from a Local Councillor.

To describe the actions of a local employer as Shambolic; unforgivable; disgraceful is extremely unhelpful.

His comments seem to have been written in very hysterical terms for someone who is a local community leader.

I would suggest he reflects on his comments and realises that they are very unhelpful. At this stage he should be doing all he can to reduce the tension between the opposing groups not adding to them.
I hope Mark Watkin on reflection regrets his previous comments. It does seem that this event has resulted in a very knee jerk reaction from a Local Councillor. To describe the actions of a local employer as Shambolic; unforgivable; disgraceful is extremely unhelpful. His comments seem to have been written in very hysterical terms for someone who is a local community leader. I would suggest he reflects on his comments and realises that they are very unhelpful. At this stage he should be doing all he can to reduce the tension between the opposing groups not adding to them. Hornet supporter
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8:56am Fri 31 May 13

Wacko Jacko says...

If Nick Lincoln (UKIP) is right and this has been in the public domain since April, I'm surprised that the so called 'organisers' of the protest festival have left it till the last moment to apply for consents.
Their first step should have been to find a suitable site and get the owner's consent, then armed with properly considered plans and that consent make an application for a license to WBC.
For both of the possible sites they failed to get owner's consent but made applications to WBC anyway, in the case of the Cassiobury Park application they allowed far too little time for it to be properly processed and considered.
Organisation? I don't think so and the evidence says there is none.
Mark Watkin is right in saying that The Grove have something to answer for. They clearly must have been aware of this event and its likely impact for many months but failed to engage with the Police or Council, which could have been done at very high level.
The organisation behind the event (as well as the 'organisation' of the protest) has been shambolic, but thankfully the Police are doing a good job of managing a dynamically changing situation, we should all support them and have confidence in their ability to keep public nuisance and crime and disorder to a minimum.
If Nick Lincoln (UKIP) is right and this has been in the public domain since April, I'm surprised that the so called 'organisers' of the protest festival have left it till the last moment to apply for consents. Their first step should have been to find a suitable site and get the owner's consent, then armed with properly considered plans and that consent make an application for a license to WBC. For both of the possible sites they failed to get owner's consent but made applications to WBC anyway, in the case of the Cassiobury Park application they allowed far too little time for it to be properly processed and considered. Organisation? I don't think so and the evidence says there is none. Mark Watkin is right in saying that The Grove have something to answer for. They clearly must have been aware of this event and its likely impact for many months but failed to engage with the Police or Council, which could have been done at very high level. The organisation behind the event (as well as the 'organisation' of the protest) has been shambolic, but thankfully the Police are doing a good job of managing a dynamically changing situation, we should all support them and have confidence in their ability to keep public nuisance and crime and disorder to a minimum. Wacko Jacko
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9:37am Fri 31 May 13

Mark Watkin says...

Yes I am angry. Yes of course I am working with the Police, the County Council and particularly officers from the Town Hall to put together a plan to handle the impact of this conference. I have also been helping furious residents who will be impacted by this conference and its spin off.

To suggest that The Grove is not benefiting from this event is frankly daft. Its global status has been notched up dramatically because of the status it will gain from hosting this event. They have a duty and responsibility t as we all do when we want to organise something which will impact negatively on our neighbours to minimise this impact and to argue, as they do, that the resulting protests are nothing to do with them is a complete denial of this responsibility.

I understand totally why the nature of the event had to be kept secret but the national authorities engaged in the security around this event knew exactly the likely reaction it would cause. What it required was that, without stating the reasons why, all the impacted parties including The Grove, the Police, the local Councils should have been brought together many months ago to start planning for this event (compare this with what they did for the Players Championship 6 or so years ago) we, the local Police (whom I more than happy to praise for what they are doing) and residents are being forced into making hasty ill considered decisions at the 11th hour 59th minute. The impact of this total planning failure will hit the residents I represent and possibly other areas of Watford as the protesters search for somewhere to pitch camp or park up as shortage of time has failed to produce a suitable camp site for them.

It could and should have been organised far better
Yes I am angry. Yes of course I am working with the Police, the County Council and particularly officers from the Town Hall to put together a plan to handle the impact of this conference. I have also been helping furious residents who will be impacted by this conference and its spin off. To suggest that The Grove is not benefiting from this event is frankly daft. Its global status has been notched up dramatically because of the status it will gain from hosting this event. They have a duty and responsibility t as we all do when we want to organise something which will impact negatively on our neighbours to minimise this impact and to argue, as they do, that the resulting protests are nothing to do with them is a complete denial of this responsibility. I understand totally why the nature of the event had to be kept secret but the national authorities engaged in the security around this event knew exactly the likely reaction it would cause. What it required was that, without stating the reasons why, all the impacted parties including The Grove, the Police, the local Councils should have been brought together many months ago to start planning for this event (compare this with what they did for the Players Championship 6 or so years ago) we, the local Police (whom I more than happy to praise for what they are doing) and residents are being forced into making hasty ill considered decisions at the 11th hour 59th minute. The impact of this total planning failure will hit the residents I represent and possibly other areas of Watford as the protesters search for somewhere to pitch camp or park up as shortage of time has failed to produce a suitable camp site for them. It could and should have been organised far better Mark Watkin
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10:06am Fri 31 May 13

Mark Watkin says...

Nick. Thanks about the tip re Google alerts. Have set several up. I will never be caught unawares again!
Nick. Thanks about the tip re Google alerts. Have set several up. I will never be caught unawares again! Mark Watkin
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11:10am Fri 31 May 13

garston tony says...

Mark, I didnt say the Grove wasnt benefiting.

I just pointed out that the meetings could only benefit its status if the event was known about, yet you were claiming they were both trying to gain kudos AND trying to keep it quiet which is contradictory.

And the only people who have failed planning wise is the self styled leaders and organisers of the protest
Mark, I didnt say the Grove wasnt benefiting. I just pointed out that the meetings could only benefit its status if the event was known about, yet you were claiming they were both trying to gain kudos AND trying to keep it quiet which is contradictory. And the only people who have failed planning wise is the self styled leaders and organisers of the protest garston tony
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11:37am Fri 31 May 13

Taxidermist says...

I have to be honest and say that the first thing that went through my mind when I saw the activists wanted to organise this so called 'Festival' was 'Diversion', what better way to keep the authority occupied than this 'Festival' while the real activists sneak in through the back door.

It's just a thought and of course all in my honest opinion.
I have to be honest and say that the first thing that went through my mind when I saw the activists wanted to organise this so called 'Festival' was 'Diversion', what better way to keep the authority occupied than this 'Festival' while the real activists sneak in through the back door. It's just a thought and of course all in my honest opinion. Taxidermist
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11:45am Fri 31 May 13

dontknowynot says...

Mark Watkin wrote:
Nick. Thanks about the tip re Google alerts. Have set several up. I will never be caught unawares again!
You fail to address my point thou dont you!!!
From the initial story the police were clearly aware yet did not (if you are to be believed) involve Watford Council until a very late stage.
You contradict yourself by praising the police on the one hand and saying no one told you on the other.
Unless of course you were part of the process of keeping things quite until the last minute I would suggest you take this up with the Herts PCC
[quote][p][bold]Mark Watkin[/bold] wrote: Nick. Thanks about the tip re Google alerts. Have set several up. I will never be caught unawares again![/p][/quote]You fail to address my point thou dont you!!! From the initial story the police were clearly aware yet did not (if you are to be believed) involve Watford Council until a very late stage. You contradict yourself by praising the police on the one hand and saying no one told you on the other. Unless of course you were part of the process of keeping things quite until the last minute I would suggest you take this up with the Herts PCC dontknowynot
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11:56am Fri 31 May 13

Cuetip says...

Just scratch the surface of the so called civilised and the fires of naked prejudice in some of these comments are only too plain to see.
Just scratch the surface of the so called civilised and the fires of naked prejudice in some of these comments are only too plain to see. Cuetip
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12:13pm Fri 31 May 13

Mark Watkin says...

I have no reason to think that the local Police who are having to pick up the pieces were aware. My gripe is with the national security services.

The suggestion that somehow I am part of a process to keep things quiet is laughable.

The Grove keeps things quiet before the event as they hardly have to worry about how many "guests" will be attending the conference. The fact that they held it will give them massive international kudos. Where is the contradiction in that?
I have no reason to think that the local Police who are having to pick up the pieces were aware. My gripe is with the national security services. The suggestion that somehow I am part of a process to keep things quiet is laughable. The Grove keeps things quiet before the event as they hardly have to worry about how many "guests" will be attending the conference. The fact that they held it will give them massive international kudos. Where is the contradiction in that? Mark Watkin
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12:32pm Fri 31 May 13

dontknowynot says...

Mark Watkin wrote:
I have no reason to think that the local Police who are having to pick up the pieces were aware. My gripe is with the national security services.

The suggestion that somehow I am part of a process to keep things quiet is laughable.

The Grove keeps things quiet before the event as they hardly have to worry about how many "guests" will be attending the conference. The fact that they held it will give them massive international kudos. Where is the contradiction in that?
clearly if it is Laughable then you have issue with Herts PCC as their spokesman know about it at the time of this Article
http://www.watfordob
server.co.uk/news/10
403213.World_leaders
_to_hold_summit_in_W
atford/
indeed I would suggest that if info wars are to be believed Staff know a high profile booking was to be in place in Jan.
I am sorry but surly even if at only an initial executive level The protocol for high profile Grove bookings such as this ought to be involving Watford Council at a much earlier stage, I would suggest that if this is not the case (and from your responses it appears not to be) that you take the matter up with the police commissioner.
[quote][p][bold]Mark Watkin[/bold] wrote: I have no reason to think that the local Police who are having to pick up the pieces were aware. My gripe is with the national security services. The suggestion that somehow I am part of a process to keep things quiet is laughable. The Grove keeps things quiet before the event as they hardly have to worry about how many "guests" will be attending the conference. The fact that they held it will give them massive international kudos. Where is the contradiction in that?[/p][/quote]clearly if it is Laughable then you have issue with Herts PCC as their spokesman know about it at the time of this Article http://www.watfordob server.co.uk/news/10 403213.World_leaders _to_hold_summit_in_W atford/ indeed I would suggest that if info wars are to be believed Staff know a high profile booking was to be in place in Jan. I am sorry but surly even if at only an initial executive level The protocol for high profile Grove bookings such as this ought to be involving Watford Council at a much earlier stage, I would suggest that if this is not the case (and from your responses it appears not to be) that you take the matter up with the police commissioner. dontknowynot
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12:42pm Fri 31 May 13

Mark Watkin says...

I have no reason to think that the local Police who are having to pick up the pieces were aware. My gripe is with the national security services.

The suggestion that somehow I am part of a process to keep things quiet is laughable.

The Grove keeps things quiet before the event as they hardly have to worry about how many "guests" will be attending the conference. The fact that they held it will give them massive international kudos. Where is the contradiction in that?
I have no reason to think that the local Police who are having to pick up the pieces were aware. My gripe is with the national security services. The suggestion that somehow I am part of a process to keep things quiet is laughable. The Grove keeps things quiet before the event as they hardly have to worry about how many "guests" will be attending the conference. The fact that they held it will give them massive international kudos. Where is the contradiction in that? Mark Watkin
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12:45pm Fri 31 May 13

dontknowynot says...

dontknowynot wrote:
Mark Watkin wrote:
I have no reason to think that the local Police who are having to pick up the pieces were aware. My gripe is with the national security services.

The suggestion that somehow I am part of a process to keep things quiet is laughable.

The Grove keeps things quiet before the event as they hardly have to worry about how many "guests" will be attending the conference. The fact that they held it will give them massive international kudos. Where is the contradiction in that?
clearly if it is Laughable then you have issue with Herts PCC as their spokesman know about it at the time of this Article
http://www.watfordob

server.co.uk/news/10

403213.World_leaders

_to_hold_summit_in_W

atford/
indeed I would suggest that if info wars are to be believed Staff know a high profile booking was to be in place in Jan.
I am sorry but surly even if at only an initial executive level The protocol for high profile Grove bookings such as this ought to be involving Watford Council at a much earlier stage, I would suggest that if this is not the case (and from your responses it appears not to be) that you take the matter up with the police commissioner.
I think you posted the same post by accident
[quote][p][bold]dontknowynot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark Watkin[/bold] wrote: I have no reason to think that the local Police who are having to pick up the pieces were aware. My gripe is with the national security services. The suggestion that somehow I am part of a process to keep things quiet is laughable. The Grove keeps things quiet before the event as they hardly have to worry about how many "guests" will be attending the conference. The fact that they held it will give them massive international kudos. Where is the contradiction in that?[/p][/quote]clearly if it is Laughable then you have issue with Herts PCC as their spokesman know about it at the time of this Article http://www.watfordob server.co.uk/news/10 403213.World_leaders _to_hold_summit_in_W atford/ indeed I would suggest that if info wars are to be believed Staff know a high profile booking was to be in place in Jan. I am sorry but surly even if at only an initial executive level The protocol for high profile Grove bookings such as this ought to be involving Watford Council at a much earlier stage, I would suggest that if this is not the case (and from your responses it appears not to be) that you take the matter up with the police commissioner.[/p][/quote]I think you posted the same post by accident dontknowynot
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9:41pm Fri 31 May 13

drunkenduck says...

I agree that everybody has a right to protest but PEACEFULLY.

But that does NOT give the right to cause damage, trouble and stir up hatred comments and issues and from those you dictated their hatred believes onto others.

As these going to be a lot of sick, twisted and troublemakers activists turning comparing what is getting written on those anti-bilderberg blogs and facebook groups/pages etc!
I agree that everybody has a right to protest but PEACEFULLY. But that does NOT give the right to cause damage, trouble and stir up hatred comments and issues and from those you dictated their hatred believes onto others. As these going to be a lot of sick, twisted and troublemakers activists turning comparing what is getting written on those anti-bilderberg blogs and facebook groups/pages etc! drunkenduck
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10:43am Sat 1 Jun 13

No such thing as conspiracy says...

LSC wrote:
"What is the point of the meeting then? Why are they afraid of what the public might think if they knew what they were discussing?"

So you admit you do not know what they are discussing.

"It doesn't worry you they don't want anything they discuss made available to us, but they sure as hell will implement it later down the road?"

So you admit you don't know what they are discussing, but what their course of action will be.

"They know, that we know, what they really are up to."

So you DO know what they are discussing! Why didn't you say so in the first place?

I admit it is less fun that way, but getting to the point is what wins most of us over.
You see, I have a job and I don't smoke weed so I like to get to the point as soon as possible.

That is a Top Tip, there is no charge for this service.
What has smoking a perfectly natural plant got to do with anything?
I work a full time job and volunteer my time on weekends coaching kids football. What the hell do you do besides licking the boots of globalists?

Can you not discern between the public ignorant to this meeting and people like myself ( the 'we' if you are not quite following) that do their own research and follow what these power brokers get up to?

How do you think 'we' knew where this meeting was going to take place? How do you think protestors find their way to the secret meeting each year? How do 'we' know some of those who are attending and what they are discussing? Ever heard of sources? Whistleblowers? You know, investigative reporting?

Jim Tucker (RIP), Daniel Estulin, Alex Jones, Charlie Skelton of the Guardian and Jon Ronson. They all report on the meeting and have access to people within the Bilderberg group. Jim Tucker received the guest list to each of the meetings from a source inside the group, long before they decided to post the list to their website. Not everyone that works within the Bilderberg meeting is happy about it.

You also get some of the attendees later bragging about being there. They have even admitted to creating the Euro during the meetings.

http://euobserver.co
m/political/27778

'A meeting in June in Europe of the Bilderberg Group - an informal club of leading politicians, businessmen and thinkers chaired by Mr Davignon - could also "improve understanding" on future action, in the same way it helped create the euro in the 1990s, he said.

"When we were having debates on the euro, people could explain why it was worth taking risks and the others, for whom the formal policy was not to believe in it, were not obliged not to listen and had to stand up and come up with real arguments."

Do you trust the BBC? Even they have reported on it.
http://www.propagand
amatrix.com/bbc_radi
o_4_bilderberg.mp3


The amount of links and evidence already provided is extensive enough. Time you did a little bit of sceptical research instead of your own.
[quote][p][bold]LSC[/bold] wrote: "What is the point of the meeting then? Why are they afraid of what the public might think if they knew what they were discussing?" So you admit you do not know what they are discussing. "It doesn't worry you they don't want anything they discuss made available to us, but they sure as hell will implement it later down the road?" So you admit you don't know what they are discussing, but what their course of action will be. "They know, that we know, what they really are up to." So you DO know what they are discussing! Why didn't you say so in the first place? I admit it is less fun that way, but getting to the point is what wins most of us over. You see, I have a job and I don't smoke weed so I like to get to the point as soon as possible. That is a Top Tip, there is no charge for this service.[/p][/quote]What has smoking a perfectly natural plant got to do with anything? I work a full time job and volunteer my time on weekends coaching kids football. What the hell do you do besides licking the boots of globalists? Can you not discern between the public ignorant to this meeting and people like myself ( the 'we' if you are not quite following) that do their own research and follow what these power brokers get up to? How do you think 'we' knew where this meeting was going to take place? How do you think protestors find their way to the secret meeting each year? How do 'we' know some of those who are attending and what they are discussing? Ever heard of sources? Whistleblowers? You know, investigative reporting? Jim Tucker (RIP), Daniel Estulin, Alex Jones, Charlie Skelton of the Guardian and Jon Ronson. They all report on the meeting and have access to people within the Bilderberg group. Jim Tucker received the guest list to each of the meetings from a source inside the group, long before they decided to post the list to their website. Not everyone that works within the Bilderberg meeting is happy about it. You also get some of the attendees later bragging about being there. They have even admitted to creating the Euro during the meetings. http://euobserver.co m/political/27778 'A meeting in June in Europe of the Bilderberg Group - an informal club of leading politicians, businessmen and thinkers chaired by Mr Davignon - could also "improve understanding" on future action, in the same way it helped create the euro in the 1990s, he said. "When we were having debates on the euro, people [at Bilderberg events] could explain why it was worth taking risks and the others, for whom the formal policy was not to believe in it, were not obliged not to listen and had to stand up and come up with real arguments." Do you trust the BBC? Even they have reported on it. http://www.propagand amatrix.com/bbc_radi o_4_bilderberg.mp3 The amount of links and evidence already provided is extensive enough. Time you did a little bit of sceptical research instead of your own. No such thing as conspiracy
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4:51pm Sat 1 Jun 13

Paul Barbara says...

The controversy brought about by the attempt to hold a 'Fringe Festival' has at least led some to become aware of Bilderberg, and to do some research.
Linked to Bilderberg are extremely powerful groups such as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Tripartite Commission, Club of Rome, Royal Institute of International Affairs, Round Table, UN etc.
A useful source for Bilderberg info is Bilderberg.org. Watch Alex Jones' 'End Game' and other documentaries, and 'Aaron Russo - Hisitoric Interview'.
Check out 'Homeland Security + millions of hollow point bullets'.
If people are happy having their destinies planned and leaders chosen by shadowy, secretive meetings of Banksters, Media Moguls, Royalty, Military leaders and Multinationals, then carry on pouring scorn on protesters & 'Conspiracy Theorists'.
Whilst grassroots demonstrations against Hitler's policies pre-WWII were being derided, the Banksters and Multinationals in the US were busily bolstering Hitler's war-making capability.
I'll close with the words of Jim Tucker, recently deceased: 'This benign image of Bilderberg, however, denies reality. A simple glance at the secret roster of attendees shows it is composed of the wealthy elites, who are all seeking similar goals—increasing their power and profits, while turning the rest of us into serfs on the global plantation.'
The controversy brought about by the attempt to hold a 'Fringe Festival' has at least led some to become aware of Bilderberg, and to do some research. Linked to Bilderberg are extremely powerful groups such as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Tripartite Commission, Club of Rome, Royal Institute of International Affairs, Round Table, UN etc. A useful source for Bilderberg info is Bilderberg.org. Watch Alex Jones' 'End Game' and other documentaries, and 'Aaron Russo - Hisitoric Interview'. Check out 'Homeland Security + millions of hollow point bullets'. If people are happy having their destinies planned and leaders chosen by shadowy, secretive meetings of Banksters, Media Moguls, Royalty, Military leaders and Multinationals, then carry on pouring scorn on protesters & 'Conspiracy Theorists'. Whilst grassroots demonstrations against Hitler's policies pre-WWII were being derided, the Banksters and Multinationals in the US were busily bolstering Hitler's war-making capability. I'll close with the words of Jim Tucker, recently deceased: 'This benign image of Bilderberg, however, denies reality. A simple glance at the secret roster of attendees shows it is composed of the wealthy elites, who are all seeking similar goals—increasing their power and profits, while turning the rest of us into serfs on the global plantation.' Paul Barbara
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5:07pm Sat 1 Jun 13

LSC says...

"What has smoking a perfectly natural plant got to do with anything?"

Well, it is illegal, which says something about the character of the person doing it; they are quite happy to break the law, it clouds judgement and it can induce paranoia.

So I would say very relevant when it comes to the type of people protesting about this meeting.

You then go on to completely contradict your own protest. One of the main complaints is how 'secret' they are, then you list all the ways in which they are not.

That is a fairly odd way to state your position, so I have to conclude the majority of protesters are probably wrong somewhere along the line.

I therefore do not support them.
"What has smoking a perfectly natural plant got to do with anything?" Well, it is illegal, which says something about the character of the person doing it; they are quite happy to break the law, it clouds judgement and it can induce paranoia. So I would say very relevant when it comes to the type of people protesting about this meeting. You then go on to completely contradict your own protest. One of the main complaints is how 'secret' they are, then you list all the ways in which they are not. That is a fairly odd way to state your position, so I have to conclude the majority of protesters are probably wrong somewhere along the line. I therefore do not support them. LSC
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5:20pm Sat 1 Jun 13

Paul Barbara says...

Here is a podcast (13/5/2013) from Alex Jones re the Watford Bilderberg meeting: http://tunein.com/to
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Here is a podcast (13/5/2013) from Alex Jones re the Watford Bilderberg meeting: http://tunein.com/to pic/?topicId=4683294 0 Paul Barbara
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8:11am Sun 2 Jun 13

Popeonarope says...

13 families, Illuminati, Bilderberg etc...
Conspiracy theories or not, these are the powerful elite of our society that allows them act in their own interests without exception.
Protest all you like, it wont make a bit of difference to these people. As in the US when during election time, billions of dollars are spent lobbying for the two parties. This is the same, they control everything from the media to to the finances of governments and protect their agendas in the same way as any other powerful group protects its own interests.

"There's a reason for this, there's a reason education sucks, and it's the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It's never going to get any better. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you've got... because the owners of this country don’t want that. I'm talking about the real owners now... the real owners. The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls. They got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying. Lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want. They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right!" - George Carlin (1937 - 2008)
13 families, Illuminati, Bilderberg etc... Conspiracy theories or not, these are the powerful elite of our society that allows them act in their own interests without exception. Protest all you like, it wont make a bit of difference to these people. As in the US when during election time, billions of dollars are spent lobbying for the two parties. This is the same, they control everything from the media to to the finances of governments and protect their agendas in the same way as any other powerful group protects its own interests. "There's a reason for this, there's a reason education sucks, and it's the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It's never going to get any better. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you've got... because the owners of this country don’t want that. I'm talking about the real owners now... the real owners. The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls. They got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying. Lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want. They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right!" - George Carlin (1937 - 2008) Popeonarope
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3:10am Tue 4 Jun 13

Paul Barbara says...

We now have the 'Official' List of Attendees expected at the Grove, thanks to: http://www.blacklist
ednews.com/Official_
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Official Bilderberg Attendee List Released
June 3, 2013
Print Version

Source: Bilderberg Meetings

Here is the official list of attendees for the upcoming Bilderberg meeting at The Grove in Watford, England, as well as the agenda.

Hertfordshire, England 6-9 June 2013

Current list of Participants

Status 3 June 2013

Chairman

FRA

Castries, Henri de

Chairman and CEO, AXA Group

DEU

Achleitner, Paul M.

Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Deutsche Bank AG

DEU

Ackermann, Josef

Chairman of the Board, Zurich Insurance Group Ltd

GBR

Agius, Marcus

Former Chairman, Barclays plc

GBR

Alexander, Helen

Chairman, UBM plc

USA

Altman, Roger C.

Executive Chairman, Evercore Partners

FIN
Apunen, Matti

Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA

USA
Athey, Susan

Professor of Economics, Stanford Graduate School of Business

TUR
Aydıntaşbaş, Aslı

Columnist, Milliyet Newspaper
TUR

Babacan, Ali

Deputy Prime Minister for Economic and Financial Affairs

GBR
Balls, Edward M.

Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer

PRT
Balsemão, Francisco Pinto

Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA

FRA
Barré, Nicolas

Managing Editor, Les Echos

INT
Barroso, José M. Durão

President, European Commission

FRA
Baverez, Nicolas

Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP

FRA
Bavinchove, Olivier de

Commander, Eurocorps

GBR
Bell, John

Regius Professor of Medicine, University of Oxford

ITA
Bernabè, Franco

Chairman and CEO, Telecom Italia S.p.A.

USA
Bezos, Jeff

Founder and CEO, Amazon.com

SWE
Bildt, Carl

Minister for Foreign Affairs

SWE
Borg, Anders

Minister for Finance

NLD
Boxmeer, Jean François van

Chairman of the Executive Board and CEO, Heineken N.V.

NOR
Brandtzæg, Svein Richard
President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA

AUT
Bronner, Oscar

Publisher, Der Standard Medienwelt

GBR
Carrington, Peter

Former Honorary Chairman, Bilderberg Meetings

ESP
Cebrián, Juan Luis

Executive Chairman, Grupo PRISA

CAN
Clark, W. Edmund

President and CEO, TD Bank Group

GBR
Clarke, Kenneth

Member of Parliament

DNK
Corydon, Bjarne

Minister of Finance

GBR
Cowper-Coles, Sherard

Business Development Director, International, BAE Systems plc

ITA
Cucchiani, Enrico Tommaso

CEO, Intesa Sanpaolo SpA

BEL
Davignon, Etienne

Minister of State; Former Chairman, Bilderberg Meetings

GBR
Davis, Ian

Senior Partner Emeritus, McKinsey & Company

NLD
Dijkgraaf, Robbert H.

Director and Leon Levy Professor, Institute for Advanced Study

TUR
Dinçer, Haluk

President, Retail and Insurance Group, Sabancı Holding A.S.

GBR
Dudley, Robert

Group Chief Executive, BP plc

USA
Eberstadt, Nicholas N.

Henry Wendt Chair in Political Economy, American Enterprise Institute

NOR
Eide, Espen Barth

Minister of Foreign Affairs

SWE
Ekholm, Börje

President and CEO, Investor AB

DEU
Enders, Thomas

CEO, EADS

USA
Evans, J. Michael

Vice Chairman, Goldman Sachs & Co.

DNK
Federspiel, Ulrik

Executive Vice President, Haldor Topsøe A/S

USA
Feldstein, Martin S.

Professor of Economics, Harvard University; President Emeritus, NBER

FRA
Fillon, François

Former Prime Minister

USA
Fishman, Mark C.

President, Novartis Institutes for BioMedical Research

GBR
Flint, Douglas J.

Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings plc

IRL
Gallagher, Paul

Senior Counsel

USA
Geithner, Timothy F.

Former Secretary of the Treasury

USA
Gfoeller, Michael

Political Consultant

USA
Graham, Donald E.

Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company

DEU
Grillo, Ulrich

CEO, Grillo-Werke AG

ITA
Gruber, Lilli

Journalist – Anchorwoman, La 7 TV

ESP
Guindos, Luis de

Minister of Economy and Competitiveness

GBR
Gulliver, Stuart

Group Chief Executive, HSBC Holdings plc

CHE
Gutzwiller, Felix

Member of the Swiss Council of States

NLD
Halberstadt, Victor

Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings

FIN
Heinonen, Olli

Senior Fellow, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School of Government

GBR
Henry, Simon

CFO, Royal Dutch Shell plc

FRA
Hermelin, Paul

Chairman and CEO, Capgemini Group

ESP
Isla, Pablo

Chairman and CEO, Inditex Group

USA
Jacobs, Kenneth M.

Chairman and CEO, Lazard

USA
Johnson, James A.

Chairman, Johnson Capital Partners

CHE
Jordan, Thomas J.

Chairman of the Governing Board, Swiss National Bank

USA
Jordan, Jr., Vernon E.

Managing Director, Lazard Freres & Co. LLC

USA
Kaplan, Robert D.

Chief Geopolitical Analyst, Stratfor

USA
Karp, Alex

Founder and CEO, Palantir Technologies

GBR
Kerr, John

Independent Member, House of Lords

USA
Kissinger, Henry A.

Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.

USA
Kleinfeld, Klaus

Chairman and CEO, Alcoa

NLD
Knot, Klaas H.W.

President, De Nederlandsche Bank

TUR
Koç, Mustafa V.

Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.

DEU
Koch, Roland

CEO, Bilfinger SE

USA
Kravis, Henry R.

Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.

USA
Kravis, Marie-Josée

Senior Fellow and Vice Chair, Hudson Institute

CHE
Kudelski, André

Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group

GRC
Kyriacopoulos, Ulysses

Chairman, S&B Industrial Minerals S.A.

INT
Lagarde, Christine

Managing Director, International Monetary Fund

DEU
Lauk, Kurt J.

Chairman of the Economic Council to the CDU, Berlin

USA
Lessig, Lawrence

Roy L. Furman Professor of Law and Leadership, Harvard Law School; Director, Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics, Harvard University

BEL
Leysen, Thomas

Chairman of the Board of Directors, KBC Group

DEU
Lindner, Christian

Party Leader, Free Democratic Party (FDP NRW)

SWE
Löfven, Stefan

Party Leader, Social Democratic Party (SAP)

DEU
Löscher, Peter

President and CEO, Siemens AG

GBR
Mandelson, Peter

Chairman, Global Counsel; Chairman, Lazard International

USA
Mathews, Jessica T.

President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

CAN
McKenna, Frank

Chair, Brookfield Asset Management


President, French Institute for International Relations

ITA
Monti, Mario

Former Prime Minister

USA

Mundie, Craig J.

Senior Advisor to the CEO, Microsoft Corporation

ITA
Nagel, Alberto

CEO, Mediobanca

NLD
Netherlands, H.R.H. Princess Beatrix of The

USA
Ng, Andrew Y.

Co-Founder, Coursera

FIN
Ollila, Jorma

Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell, plc

GBR
Omand, David

Visiting Professor, King’s College London

GBR
Osborne, George

Chancellor of the Exchequer

USA
Ottolenghi, Emanuele

Senior Fellow, Foundation for Defense of Democracies

TUR
Özel, Soli

Senior Lecturer, Kadir Has University; Columnist, Habertürk Newspaper

GRC
Papahelas, Alexis

Executive Editor, Kathimerini Newspaper

TUR
Pavey, Şafak

Member of Parliament (CHP)

FRA
Pécresse, Valérie

Member of Parliament (UMP)

USA
Perle, Richard N.

Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute

USA
Petraeus, David H.

General, U.S. Army (Retired)

PRT
Portas, Paulo

Minister of State and Foreign Affairs

CAN
Prichard, J. Robert S.

Chair, Torys LLP

INT
Reding, Viviane

Vice President and Commissioner for Justice, Fundamental Rights and Citizenship, European Commission

CAN
Reisman, Heather M.

CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.

FRA
Rey, Hélène

Professor of Economics, London Business School

GBR
Robertson, Simon

Partner, Robertson Robey Associates LLP; Deputy Chairman, HSBC Holdings

ITA
Rocca, Gianfelice

Chairman,Techint Group

POL
Rostowski, Jacek

Minister of Finance and Deputy Prime Minister

USA
Rubin, Robert E.

Co-Chairman, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury

NLD
Rutte, Mark

Prime Minister

AUT
Schieder, Andreas

State Secretary of Finance

USA
Schmidt, Eric E.

Executive Chairman, Google Inc.

AUT
Scholten, Rudolf

Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG

PRT
Seguro, António José

Secretary General, Socialist Party

FRA
Senard, Jean-Dominique

CEO, Michelin Group

NOR
Skogen Lund, Kristin

Director General, Confederation of Norwegian Enterprise

USA
Slaughter, Anne-Marie

Bert G. Kerstetter ’66 University Professor of Politics and International Affairs, Princeton University

IRL
Sutherland, Peter D.

Chairman, Goldman Sachs International

GBR
Taylor, Martin

Former Chairman, Syngenta AG

INT
Thiam, Tidjane

Group CEO, Prudential plc

USA
Thiel, Peter A.

President, Thiel Capital

USA
Thompson, Craig B.

President and CEO, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center

DNK
Topsøe, Jakob Haldor

Partner, AMBROX Capital A/S

FIN
Urpilainen, Jutta

Minister of Finance

CHE
Vasella, Daniel L.

Honorary Chairman, Novartis AG

GBR
Voser, Peter R.

CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc

CAN
Wall, Brad

Premier of Saskatchewan

SWE
Wallenberg, Jacob

Chairman, Investor AB

USA
Warsh, Kevin

Distinguished Visiting Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University

CAN
Weston, Galen G.

Executive Chairman, Loblaw Companies Limited

GBR
Williams of Crosby, Shirley

Member, House of Lords

GBR
Wolf, Martin H.

Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial Times

USA
Wolfensohn, James D.

Chairman and CEO, Wolfensohn and Company

GBR
Wright, David

Vice Chairman, Barclays plc

INT
Zoellick, Robert B.

Distinguished Visiting Fellow, Peterson Institute for International Economics

AUT Austria
INT International
BEL Belgium
IRL Ireland
CAN Canada
ITA Italy
CHE Switzerland
NLD Netherlands
DEU Germany
NOR Norway
DNK Denmark
POL Poland
ESP Spain
PRT Portugal
FIN Finland
SWE Sweden
FRA France
TUR Turkey
GBR Great Britain
USA United States of America
GRC Greece

Bilderberg Agenda

The 61st Bilderberg meeting is set to take place from 6 until 9 June 2013 in Hertfordshire, UK. A total of around 140 participants from 21 European and North American countries have confirmed their attendance. As ever, a diverse group of political leaders and experts from industry, finance, academia and the media have been invited. The list of participants is available on www.bilderbergmeetin
gs.org

The key topics for discussion this year include:
• Can the US and Europe grow faster and create jobs?
• Jobs, entitlement and debt
• How big data is changing almost everything
• Nationalism and populism
• US foreign policy
• Africa’s challenges
• Cyber warfare and the proliferation of asymmetric threats
• Major trends in medical research
• Online education: promise and impacts
• Politics of the European Union
• Developments in the Middle East
• Current affairs

Founded in 1954, Bilderberg is an annual conference designed to foster dialogue between Europe and North America.

Every year, between 120-150 political leaders and experts from industry, finance, academia and the media are invited to take part in the conference. About two thirds of the participants come from Europe and the rest from North America; one third from politics and government and the rest from other fields.

The conference has always been a forum for informal, off-the-record discussions about megatrends and the major issues facing the world. Thanks to the private nature of the conference, the participants are not bound by the conventions of office or by pre-agreed positions. As such, they can take time to listen, reflect and gather insights.

There is no detailed agenda, no resolutions are proposed, no votes are taken, and no policy statements are issued.'


The 'Key Topics' sounds inocuous enough, but of course the Devil is in the detail, which we are very unlikely to ever uncover.
New wars, new 'Economic Clllapses', new Presidents & Prime Ministers in the wings, new 'False Flag' attacks, leading to further encroachments on our Civil Rights & Liberties.
One country's representatives stands out like a sore thumb - Turkey, hardly a country one would expect to find so many delegates from in such a prestigious gathering. What that indicates to me is the importance of Turkey to the Global NWO Agenda, to use Turkey in it's provocations and hostilities against Syria & Iran.

I don't actually know if the list was 'leaked' or actually sent out by the Bilderberg group; if the latter is the case. I believe it would be a first; secrecy is their middle name (they do have others, but it would get me barred if I printed them!!).
We now have the 'Official' List of Attendees expected at the Grove, thanks to: http://www.blacklist ednews.com/Official_ Bilderberg_Attendee_ List_Released_/26420 /0/0/0/Y/M.html Official Bilderberg Attendee List Released June 3, 2013 Print Version Source: Bilderberg Meetings Here is the official list of attendees for the upcoming Bilderberg meeting at The Grove in Watford, England, as well as the agenda. Hertfordshire, England 6-9 June 2013 Current list of Participants Status 3 June 2013 Chairman FRA Castries, Henri de Chairman and CEO, AXA Group DEU Achleitner, Paul M. Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Deutsche Bank AG DEU Ackermann, Josef Chairman of the Board, Zurich Insurance Group Ltd GBR Agius, Marcus Former Chairman, Barclays plc GBR Alexander, Helen Chairman, UBM plc USA Altman, Roger C. Executive Chairman, Evercore Partners FIN Apunen, Matti Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA USA Athey, Susan Professor of Economics, Stanford Graduate School of Business TUR Aydıntaşbaş, Aslı Columnist, Milliyet Newspaper TUR Babacan, Ali Deputy Prime Minister for Economic and Financial Affairs GBR Balls, Edward M. Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer PRT Balsemão, Francisco Pinto Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA FRA Barré, Nicolas Managing Editor, Les Echos INT Barroso, José M. Durão President, European Commission FRA Baverez, Nicolas Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP FRA Bavinchove, Olivier de Commander, Eurocorps GBR Bell, John Regius Professor of Medicine, University of Oxford ITA Bernabè, Franco Chairman and CEO, Telecom Italia S.p.A. USA Bezos, Jeff Founder and CEO, Amazon.com SWE Bildt, Carl Minister for Foreign Affairs SWE Borg, Anders Minister for Finance NLD Boxmeer, Jean François van Chairman of the Executive Board and CEO, Heineken N.V. NOR Brandtzæg, Svein Richard President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA AUT Bronner, Oscar Publisher, Der Standard Medienwelt GBR Carrington, Peter Former Honorary Chairman, Bilderberg Meetings ESP Cebrián, Juan Luis Executive Chairman, Grupo PRISA CAN Clark, W. Edmund President and CEO, TD Bank Group GBR Clarke, Kenneth Member of Parliament DNK Corydon, Bjarne Minister of Finance GBR Cowper-Coles, Sherard Business Development Director, International, BAE Systems plc ITA Cucchiani, Enrico Tommaso CEO, Intesa Sanpaolo SpA BEL Davignon, Etienne Minister of State; Former Chairman, Bilderberg Meetings GBR Davis, Ian Senior Partner Emeritus, McKinsey & Company NLD Dijkgraaf, Robbert H. Director and Leon Levy Professor, Institute for Advanced Study TUR Dinçer, Haluk President, Retail and Insurance Group, Sabancı Holding A.S. GBR Dudley, Robert Group Chief Executive, BP plc USA Eberstadt, Nicholas N. Henry Wendt Chair in Political Economy, American Enterprise Institute NOR Eide, Espen Barth Minister of Foreign Affairs SWE Ekholm, Börje President and CEO, Investor AB DEU Enders, Thomas CEO, EADS USA Evans, J. Michael Vice Chairman, Goldman Sachs & Co. DNK Federspiel, Ulrik Executive Vice President, Haldor Topsøe A/S USA Feldstein, Martin S. Professor of Economics, Harvard University; President Emeritus, NBER FRA Fillon, François Former Prime Minister USA Fishman, Mark C. President, Novartis Institutes for BioMedical Research GBR Flint, Douglas J. Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings plc IRL Gallagher, Paul Senior Counsel USA Geithner, Timothy F. Former Secretary of the Treasury USA Gfoeller, Michael Political Consultant USA Graham, Donald E. Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company DEU Grillo, Ulrich CEO, Grillo-Werke AG ITA Gruber, Lilli Journalist – Anchorwoman, La 7 TV ESP Guindos, Luis de Minister of Economy and Competitiveness GBR Gulliver, Stuart Group Chief Executive, HSBC Holdings plc CHE Gutzwiller, Felix Member of the Swiss Council of States NLD Halberstadt, Victor Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings FIN Heinonen, Olli Senior Fellow, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School of Government GBR Henry, Simon CFO, Royal Dutch Shell plc FRA Hermelin, Paul Chairman and CEO, Capgemini Group ESP Isla, Pablo Chairman and CEO, Inditex Group USA Jacobs, Kenneth M. Chairman and CEO, Lazard USA Johnson, James A. Chairman, Johnson Capital Partners CHE Jordan, Thomas J. Chairman of the Governing Board, Swiss National Bank USA Jordan, Jr., Vernon E. Managing Director, Lazard Freres & Co. LLC USA Kaplan, Robert D. Chief Geopolitical Analyst, Stratfor USA Karp, Alex Founder and CEO, Palantir Technologies GBR Kerr, John Independent Member, House of Lords USA Kissinger, Henry A. Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc. USA Kleinfeld, Klaus Chairman and CEO, Alcoa NLD Knot, Klaas H.W. President, De Nederlandsche Bank TUR Koç, Mustafa V. Chairman, Koç Holding A.S. DEU Koch, Roland CEO, Bilfinger SE USA Kravis, Henry R. Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. USA Kravis, Marie-Josée Senior Fellow and Vice Chair, Hudson Institute CHE Kudelski, André Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group GRC Kyriacopoulos, Ulysses Chairman, S&B Industrial Minerals S.A. INT Lagarde, Christine Managing Director, International Monetary Fund DEU Lauk, Kurt J. Chairman of the Economic Council to the CDU, Berlin USA Lessig, Lawrence Roy L. Furman Professor of Law and Leadership, Harvard Law School; Director, Edmond J. 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FRA Rey, Hélène Professor of Economics, London Business School GBR Robertson, Simon Partner, Robertson Robey Associates LLP; Deputy Chairman, HSBC Holdings ITA Rocca, Gianfelice Chairman,Techint Group POL Rostowski, Jacek Minister of Finance and Deputy Prime Minister USA Rubin, Robert E. Co-Chairman, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury NLD Rutte, Mark Prime Minister AUT Schieder, Andreas State Secretary of Finance USA Schmidt, Eric E. Executive Chairman, Google Inc. AUT Scholten, Rudolf Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG PRT Seguro, António José Secretary General, Socialist Party FRA Senard, Jean-Dominique CEO, Michelin Group NOR Skogen Lund, Kristin Director General, Confederation of Norwegian Enterprise USA Slaughter, Anne-Marie Bert G. Kerstetter ’66 University Professor of Politics and International Affairs, Princeton University IRL Sutherland, Peter D. Chairman, Goldman Sachs International GBR Taylor, Martin Former Chairman, Syngenta AG INT Thiam, Tidjane Group CEO, Prudential plc USA Thiel, Peter A. President, Thiel Capital USA Thompson, Craig B. President and CEO, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center DNK Topsøe, Jakob Haldor Partner, AMBROX Capital A/S FIN Urpilainen, Jutta Minister of Finance CHE Vasella, Daniel L. Honorary Chairman, Novartis AG GBR Voser, Peter R. CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc CAN Wall, Brad Premier of Saskatchewan SWE Wallenberg, Jacob Chairman, Investor AB USA Warsh, Kevin Distinguished Visiting Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University CAN Weston, Galen G. Executive Chairman, Loblaw Companies Limited GBR Williams of Crosby, Shirley Member, House of Lords GBR Wolf, Martin H. Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial Times USA Wolfensohn, James D. Chairman and CEO, Wolfensohn and Company GBR Wright, David Vice Chairman, Barclays plc INT Zoellick, Robert B. Distinguished Visiting Fellow, Peterson Institute for International Economics AUT Austria INT International BEL Belgium IRL Ireland CAN Canada ITA Italy CHE Switzerland NLD Netherlands DEU Germany NOR Norway DNK Denmark POL Poland ESP Spain PRT Portugal FIN Finland SWE Sweden FRA France TUR Turkey GBR Great Britain USA United States of America GRC Greece Bilderberg Agenda The 61st Bilderberg meeting is set to take place from 6 until 9 June 2013 in Hertfordshire, UK. A total of around 140 participants from 21 European and North American countries have confirmed their attendance. As ever, a diverse group of political leaders and experts from industry, finance, academia and the media have been invited. The list of participants is available on www.bilderbergmeetin gs.org The key topics for discussion this year include: • Can the US and Europe grow faster and create jobs? • Jobs, entitlement and debt • How big data is changing almost everything • Nationalism and populism • US foreign policy • Africa’s challenges • Cyber warfare and the proliferation of asymmetric threats • Major trends in medical research • Online education: promise and impacts • Politics of the European Union • Developments in the Middle East • Current affairs Founded in 1954, Bilderberg is an annual conference designed to foster dialogue between Europe and North America. Every year, between 120-150 political leaders and experts from industry, finance, academia and the media are invited to take part in the conference. About two thirds of the participants come from Europe and the rest from North America; one third from politics and government and the rest from other fields. The conference has always been a forum for informal, off-the-record discussions about megatrends and the major issues facing the world. Thanks to the private nature of the conference, the participants are not bound by the conventions of office or by pre-agreed positions. As such, they can take time to listen, reflect and gather insights. There is no detailed agenda, no resolutions are proposed, no votes are taken, and no policy statements are issued.' The 'Key Topics' sounds inocuous enough, but of course the Devil is in the detail, which we are very unlikely to ever uncover. New wars, new 'Economic Clllapses', new Presidents & Prime Ministers in the wings, new 'False Flag' attacks, leading to further encroachments on our Civil Rights & Liberties. One country's representatives stands out like a sore thumb - Turkey, hardly a country one would expect to find so many delegates from in such a prestigious gathering. What that indicates to me is the importance of Turkey to the Global NWO Agenda, to use Turkey in it's provocations and hostilities against Syria & Iran. I don't actually know if the list was 'leaked' or actually sent out by the Bilderberg group; if the latter is the case. I believe it would be a first; secrecy is their middle name (they do have others, but it would get me barred if I printed them!!). Paul Barbara
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8:17pm Tue 4 Jun 13

#UKMum says...

For info

I wrote to the Mayor about how Watford might take advantage of this event for some great publicity and mentioned two local businesses which were interested in the catering opportunity. She said she had no intention of capitalising on the event. So much for the Mayor's much trumpeted enthusiasm for promoting Watford.
For info I wrote to the Mayor about how Watford might take advantage of this event for some great publicity and mentioned two local businesses which were interested in the catering opportunity. She said she had no intention of capitalising on the event. So much for the Mayor's much trumpeted enthusiasm for promoting Watford. #UKMum
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10:45pm Tue 4 Jun 13

Paul Barbara says...

#UKMum wrote:
For info

I wrote to the Mayor about how Watford might take advantage of this event for some great publicity and mentioned two local businesses which were interested in the catering opportunity. She said she had no intention of capitalising on the event. So much for the Mayor's much trumpeted enthusiasm for promoting Watford.
You've got to be joking!
Do you really believe these people eat the same food we do? They know that GMO's which they try (very successfully in the States!) to push down our throats (and it's only a matter of time before 'Brussels' caves in to American demands - maybe even to be agreed at this meeting), and they know the pesticides, herbicides, toxic chemicals in our farmed produce, and the hormones and antibiotics fed to our cattle (again, restricted here, but for how long?).
This is not 'Conspiracy Theory'. I won't give you links (unless you request them on this Forum), but search the stuff out for yourself on the internet.
Don't blame the Mayor for this one; she probably knows it would be impossible to get these 'Elites' to eat the ordinary food of us mere mortals!
[quote][p][bold]#UKMum[/bold] wrote: For info I wrote to the Mayor about how Watford might take advantage of this event for some great publicity and mentioned two local businesses which were interested in the catering opportunity. She said she had no intention of capitalising on the event. So much for the Mayor's much trumpeted enthusiasm for promoting Watford.[/p][/quote]You've got to be joking! Do you really believe these people eat the same food we do? They know that GMO's which they try (very successfully in the States!) to push down our throats (and it's only a matter of time before 'Brussels' caves in to American demands - maybe even to be agreed at this meeting), and they know the pesticides, herbicides, toxic chemicals in our farmed produce, and the hormones and antibiotics fed to our cattle (again, restricted here, but for how long?). This is not 'Conspiracy Theory'. I won't give you links (unless you request them on this Forum), but search the stuff out for yourself on the internet. Don't blame the Mayor for this one; she probably knows it would be impossible to get these 'Elites' to eat the ordinary food of us mere mortals! Paul Barbara
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11:21pm Tue 4 Jun 13

dontknowynot says...

I really think that you miss the point here all the press and protesters need feeding as well and the security personnel, now we know that the Groove has said they will cater for the protesters, I do hope that they don't let there standards slip as I am looking forward to getting a wee bit overfull at the weekend. They usually have a chef doing stir fry to order at the Glasshouse, very nice, something like that would be nice.
That said I never have been to a place that charges quite as much as the grove does for a double Espresso so I am hoping the catering is gratis and will take my own coffee
I really think that you miss the point here all the press and protesters need feeding as well and the security personnel, now we know that the Groove has said they will cater for the protesters, I do hope that they don't let there standards slip as I am looking forward to getting a wee bit overfull at the weekend. They usually have a chef doing stir fry to order at the Glasshouse, very nice, something like that would be nice. That said I never have been to a place that charges quite as much as the grove does for a double Espresso so I am hoping the catering is gratis and will take my own coffee dontknowynot
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11:43pm Tue 4 Jun 13

Paul Barbara says...

Hmmm, I vonder vot they will cook up for us 'Untermenschen'?
I think I'll bring sarnies!!
Hmmm, I vonder vot they will cook up for us 'Untermenschen'? I think I'll bring sarnies!! Paul Barbara
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