Watford elected mayor, Dorothy Thornhill, writes to Prime Minister, David Cameron, over Bilderberg Group concerns

Watford Observer: Watford mayor writes to Prime Minister over Bilderberg concerns Watford mayor writes to Prime Minister over Bilderberg concerns

The elected mayor of Watford has written to the Prime Minister voicing concern about the potential impact the Bilderberg security operation will have on the county’s police budget.

Dorothy Thornhill penned a letter this week to David Cameron saying she found it “galling” that the Hertfordshire taxpayers could shoulder the cost of policing a meeting for some of “the wealthiest people in the world”.

The Liberal Democrat said she also wanted the Government to understand the stresses the secretive conference had placed on the town and its public services.

The Bilderberg Group is due to start its three-day conference at The Grove hotel on Thursday and police are gearing up for a sizable security operation backed by anti-terror laws and a no-fly zone.

Watford Observer:

Elected mayor Dorothy Thornhill.

Representatives from the Government including Chancellor George Osborne and cabinet minsiter Ken Clarke will be attending the conference at the five-star hotel, as well as shadow chancellor Ed Balls.

They will be spending three days with the heads of global corporations such as Google, Amazon, Goldman Sachs and BAE Systems as well as other leading figures such as Christine Lagarde, head of the IMF, and former US secretary of state, Henry Kissinger.

The event is expected to draw a large number of protesters unhappy about the lack of transparency from the group, which does not release any minutes of its discussions.

In her letter, which was sent yesterday, Mayor Thornhill said the town's local authorities and police had been given little time to prepare for the conference.

“The police have been forced to make quick arrangements with minimal consultation with residents, and these have had ramifications,” said the mayor.

She continued: “I am also very concerned about the additional strain this must put on Herts Police’s budget, which had already been set for the year ahead.

“While I realise the conference is funded by a cocktail of contributors, the local constabulary will surely have to pick up a substantial part of the tab, which is all the more galling when the participants in the conference are among the wealthiest people in the world.”

Yesterday senior officers from Hertfordshire Constabulary confirmed the Bilderberg Group had made a “donation” to the policing costs of the conference.

However they declined to reveal the amount and said the final cost of the operation was still uncertain.

Last week the Watford Observer revealed that Hertfordshire Constabulary was in discussions with the Home Office to secure an emergency grant to help meet the costs of policing the Bilderberg conference.

The Home Office will not confirm an application had been made from the constabulary. Yet the minimum a force can apply for is one per cent of its annual budget, which in Hertfordshire’s case would mean a sum of at least £1.7 million.

In her letter Mayor Thornhill said she was confident the police were prepared for the event and that it would pass off peacefully.

She also acknowledged that the conference would have a “positive impact” for the town as it meant extra trade for The Grove.

Watford Observer:

The Grove hotel.

The mayor concluded the letter, which was copied to Chancellor George Osborne, saying: “I am however confident the police are prepared for every eventuality, be it a major terrorist threat, or disruption from protesters or aggrieved residents. 

"The police have been in contact with the main protesting group and we believe the conference will pass off peacefully.

“However please do convey to your representatives attending later this week that this has only been achieved through considerable hard work from people here, who are still trying to do their day job. It has been a difficult few weeks, and it is important those in Central Government understand that.”

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6:13pm Tue 4 Jun 13

MarsLander says...

Is this idiotic Mayor suggesting the Bilderberg group pay for the policing costs? It seems so. Poor deluded dotty, she's lost the plot once again.

The Bilderberg group are not likely to cause problems, it is nutty greens and other misfits and terrorists that the police are needed for.

I believe the policing bill should be picked up by the government and not the local taxpayers, but to suggest the Bilderbergs pick up the tab is to fundamentally misunderstand the responsibility of the public bodies and their role. Still, she is a Lib Dem so we shouldn't expect too much from her, should we?

“While I realise the conference is funded by a cocktail of contributors, the local constabulary will surely have to pick up a substantial part of the tab, which is all the more galling when the participants in the conference are among the wealthiest people in the world.” - Dotty

I find it more galling we have such a stupid bunch of councillors in charge of Watford, the Mayor being the cherry on top of, not the cake, but the custard pie.

Clearly Dotty is not a fan or rich and successful people, just like Mark Watkin seems anti-business with his rant at the Grove, both are equally clueless. The know how to levy taxes, spend them and tell people how to live their lives down to the pettiest levels, but they seem to fail to understand how the world actually works and that without business there are no taxes.

Dotty, no use going on at Bilderberg. Sit back, have a think and then have another stab at who should pick up the tab for this. You'll get there in the end (with a bit of luck).

What a shower!
Is this idiotic Mayor suggesting the Bilderberg group pay for the policing costs? It seems so. Poor deluded dotty, she's lost the plot once again. The Bilderberg group are not likely to cause problems, it is nutty greens and other misfits and terrorists that the police are needed for. I believe the policing bill should be picked up by the government and not the local taxpayers, but to suggest the Bilderbergs pick up the tab is to fundamentally misunderstand the responsibility of the public bodies and their role. Still, she is a Lib Dem so we shouldn't expect too much from her, should we? “While I realise the conference is funded by a cocktail of contributors, the local constabulary will surely have to pick up a substantial part of the tab, which is all the more galling when the participants in the conference are among the wealthiest people in the world.” - Dotty I find it more galling we have such a stupid bunch of councillors in charge of Watford, the Mayor being the cherry on top of, not the cake, but the custard pie. Clearly Dotty is not a fan or rich and successful people, just like Mark Watkin seems anti-business with his rant at the Grove, both are equally clueless. The know how to levy taxes, spend them and tell people how to live their lives down to the pettiest levels, but they seem to fail to understand how the world actually works and that without business there are no taxes. Dotty, no use going on at Bilderberg. Sit back, have a think and then have another stab at who should pick up the tab for this. You'll get there in the end (with a bit of luck). What a shower! MarsLander

6:24pm Tue 4 Jun 13

Cuetip says...

The Bilderberg Agenda really isn’t that secret?

1 How to seize your wealth and feather our own nest eggs.

2 Harmonise EU youth unemployment with Spain and Greece which is at 60%.

Please feel free to submit additional agenda items.
The Bilderberg Agenda really isn’t that secret? 1 How to seize your wealth and feather our own nest eggs. 2 Harmonise EU youth unemployment with Spain and Greece which is at 60%. Please feel free to submit additional agenda items. Cuetip

6:38pm Tue 4 Jun 13

dontknowynot says...

Well done Dotty a bit of posturing I think, it has already been stated that Bilderberg are contributing, and that an application has gone in for emergency funding; ultimately it is nothing to do with Dotty and everything to do with the PCC, being the elected person responsible for policing.
As for my little UKIP devotee Marslander I think the alien Lizards are getting to him/her
Cuetip seems to have summed up the agenda in her/his first post, the second being irrelevant and surly him/her being a bit sarcastic.

ultimately Austerity has failed and these people meeting at the grove have advocated and implemented this policy, therefore it is only right to protest the meeting.

Good luck to all the non BNP/EDL/ and other racist protesters
Well done Dotty a bit of posturing I think, it has already been stated that Bilderberg are contributing, and that an application has gone in for emergency funding; ultimately it is nothing to do with Dotty and everything to do with the PCC, being the elected person responsible for policing. As for my little UKIP devotee Marslander I think the alien Lizards are getting to him/her Cuetip seems to have summed up the agenda in her/his first post, the second being irrelevant and surly him/her being a bit sarcastic. ultimately Austerity has failed and these people meeting at the grove have advocated and implemented this policy, therefore it is only right to protest the meeting. Good luck to all the non BNP/EDL/ and other racist protesters dontknowynot

7:14pm Tue 4 Jun 13

MJ1 says...

I think this is missing the point. Why has Dorothy written to the PM on this issue and then press released it? The reason of course is that this Conference is going to be all over the national media and she is hoping to grab a bit of this media attention for herself. The fact is that policing is a County matter and nothing to do with the Mayor. Why haven't we seen a letter to the PM from the Mayor over the government withdrawal of financial support for the modernisation of Watford Hospital? Why no letter about the massive cut in govt funding for statutory local services.? Why no letter protesting at the forced cuts in local services? Why no letter protesting at the relegation of Watford from being a major rail interchange to a mere stop on a suburban line? Of course the reason there are no letters is that Dorothy puts her party political interest in supporting the coalitiongovtahead of her job of standing up for the people of Watford! Labour championed elected Mayors but Dorothy has been a big disappointment.
I think this is missing the point. Why has Dorothy written to the PM on this issue and then press released it? The reason of course is that this Conference is going to be all over the national media and she is hoping to grab a bit of this media attention for herself. The fact is that policing is a County matter and nothing to do with the Mayor. Why haven't we seen a letter to the PM from the Mayor over the government withdrawal of financial support for the modernisation of Watford Hospital? Why no letter about the massive cut in govt funding for statutory local services.? Why no letter protesting at the forced cuts in local services? Why no letter protesting at the relegation of Watford from being a major rail interchange to a mere stop on a suburban line? Of course the reason there are no letters is that Dorothy puts her party political interest in supporting the coalitiongovtahead of her job of standing up for the people of Watford! Labour championed elected Mayors but Dorothy has been a big disappointment. MJ1

7:25pm Tue 4 Jun 13

MarsLander says...

I find myself agreeing with MJ1.

Dotty is a publicity-hungry disappointment. Better than Labour and the greens, but that's not really saying much.
I find myself agreeing with MJ1. Dotty is a publicity-hungry disappointment. Better than Labour and the greens, but that's not really saying much. MarsLander

7:37pm Tue 4 Jun 13

LSC says...

This does seem an odd request. It is like asking the players to pay for the police at football grounds, when in fact it is the crowd that pays as part of the ticket price.
This seems fair, as it is the crowd that need policing.
If the crowd turned up but the players didn't, you would still need police. But if the 22 players turned up but not the crowd, then you would not need the police.

So we would all agree it would be unfair to charge the players, right?

So what is the difference?
This does seem an odd request. It is like asking the players to pay for the police at football grounds, when in fact it is the crowd that pays as part of the ticket price. This seems fair, as it is the crowd that need policing. If the crowd turned up but the players didn't, you would still need police. But if the 22 players turned up but not the crowd, then you would not need the police. So we would all agree it would be unfair to charge the players, right? So what is the difference? LSC

8:02pm Tue 4 Jun 13

Retlas says...

The Grove is in Three Rivers District and has naff all to do with Dotty and Watford Borough!

Ann Shaw should be the person complaining but seems to be conspicuous by her lack of interest!

Any chance she has to self promote!!
The Grove is in Three Rivers District and has naff all to do with Dotty and Watford Borough! Ann Shaw should be the person complaining but seems to be conspicuous by her lack of interest! Any chance she has to self promote!! Retlas

8:09pm Tue 4 Jun 13

chuckstake94 says...

I don't know what this person is analagising here?

What has football got to do with this load of lizard worshipping scumbags. If this is the best level of argument you can come up with, you would be underqualified the be a sweeper upper at the "Intu" mall
I don't know what this person is analagising here? What has football got to do with this load of lizard worshipping scumbags. If this is the best level of argument you can come up with, you would be underqualified the be a sweeper upper at the "Intu" mall chuckstake94

8:35pm Tue 4 Jun 13

Retlas says...

chuckstake94 wrote:
I don't know what this person is analagising here?

What has football got to do with this load of lizard worshipping scumbags. If this is the best level of argument you can come up with, you would be underqualified the be a sweeper upper at the "Intu" mall
Whether the comparison is valid or not, surely there is no need to be nasty in your reply.

Just because something doesn't fit with your feelings there is no need to be vindictive and derogatory.
[quote][p][bold]chuckstake94[/bold] wrote: I don't know what this person is analagising here? What has football got to do with this load of lizard worshipping scumbags. If this is the best level of argument you can come up with, you would be underqualified the be a sweeper upper at the "Intu" mall[/p][/quote]Whether the comparison is valid or not, surely there is no need to be nasty in your reply. Just because something doesn't fit with your feelings there is no need to be vindictive and derogatory. Retlas

8:53pm Tue 4 Jun 13

dontknowynot says...

just wondering is the reason that Dotty is so miffed that there doesn't seem to be any libdem attendees?
just wondering is the reason that Dotty is so miffed that there doesn't seem to be any libdem attendees? dontknowynot

9:44pm Tue 4 Jun 13

Steve, Abbots Langley says...

Seems to me Mayor Thornhill is lacking a bit of consistency - still not too surprising as she is a Lib Dem.

When Obama may have been coming she was all for it and hang the expense apparently ....
http://www.watfordob
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Seems to me Mayor Thornhill is lacking a bit of consistency - still not too surprising as she is a Lib Dem. When Obama may have been coming she was all for it and hang the expense apparently .... http://www.watfordob server.co.uk/news/38 64306.Obama_visit__f eather_in_the_cap__f or_town/ Steve, Abbots Langley

9:44pm Tue 4 Jun 13

Napalm Pudding says...

Build a Bear my arse! It's The Illuminati I tell yer, the masters of the world come to spawn!! Evil has come to Watford....
Build a Bear my arse! It's The Illuminati I tell yer, the masters of the world come to spawn!! Evil has come to Watford.... Napalm Pudding

10:09pm Tue 4 Jun 13

Tuatha Kaish says...

Does she know who they are? I'll wager she didn't know when she was asked to take on the job. doh!
Does she know who they are? I'll wager she didn't know when she was asked to take on the job. doh! Tuatha Kaish

10:40pm Tue 4 Jun 13

Cuetip says...

How lcharming of the Grove to assist police surveillance by providing space for the protesters within the cosy security perimeter as well as grabbing some extra publicity by offering space for the protesters. I hear the lovely space comes with nearby parking.
How lcharming of the Grove to assist police surveillance by providing space for the protesters within the cosy security perimeter as well as grabbing some extra publicity by offering space for the protesters. I hear the lovely space comes with nearby parking. Cuetip

10:47pm Tue 4 Jun 13

underterraingrunter says...

Dorothy mentions the "main protesting group". Does she mean the Fringe Festival? Can I remind Dorothy that on the 29th of May ADMIN said on the Fringe website "It is NOT a protest so NO, masks, placards and megaphones are not necessary." They applied for an alcohol license and arranged a music festival with bands booked and the suggestion to bring your own sound system. The Fringe are not protestors, they are partygoers looking for an excuse to party. They do not represent concerned protestors.
Dorothy mentions the "main protesting group". Does she mean the Fringe Festival? Can I remind Dorothy that on the 29th of May ADMIN said on the Fringe website "It is NOT a protest so NO, masks, placards and megaphones are not necessary." They applied for an alcohol license and arranged a music festival with bands booked and the suggestion to bring your own sound system. The Fringe are not protestors, they are partygoers looking for an excuse to party. They do not represent concerned protestors. underterraingrunter

11:33pm Tue 4 Jun 13

dontknowynot says...

it is all very well moaning about the cost but come on even with the policing there is so much more of concern.
terrorist legislation will be invoked what does this mean?
1) will local public land be made inaccessible for security reasons
2) how much will locals be inconvenienced?
3) Will protesters rights be usurped?
it is all very well moaning about the cost but come on even with the policing there is so much more of concern. terrorist legislation will be invoked what does this mean? 1) will local public land be made inaccessible for security reasons 2) how much will locals be inconvenienced? 3) Will protesters rights be usurped? dontknowynot

11:46pm Tue 4 Jun 13

LSC says...

"I don't know what this person is analagising here?

What has football got to do with this load of lizard worshipping scumbags. If this is the best level of argument you can come up with, you would be underqualified the be a sweeper upper at the "Intu" mall"

Well first of all, what is wrong with having a job sweeping up? Someone has to do it, and yet you, with your wonderful ideas of equality and justice for the world quite clearly look down your nose at them as your inferiors intellectually.

Are they below you, in the same way you claim the 'lizard people' are above you, which you resent so much?

Game set and match. It's like shooting fish in a barrel with you lot.
"I don't know what this person is analagising here? What has football got to do with this load of lizard worshipping scumbags. If this is the best level of argument you can come up with, you would be underqualified the be a sweeper upper at the "Intu" mall" Well first of all, what is wrong with having a job sweeping up? Someone has to do it, and yet you, with your wonderful ideas of equality and justice for the world quite clearly look down your nose at them as your inferiors intellectually. Are they below you, in the same way you claim the 'lizard people' are above you, which you resent so much? Game set and match. It's like shooting fish in a barrel with you lot. LSC

11:50pm Tue 4 Jun 13

LSC says...

"it is all very well moaning about the cost but come on even with the policing there is so much more of concern.
terrorist legislation will be invoked what does this mean?
1) will local public land be made inaccessible for security reasons
2) how much will locals be inconvenienced?
3) Will protesters rights be usurped?"

Those at last, are fair and sensible questions that deserve an answer from the people in charge.
"it is all very well moaning about the cost but come on even with the policing there is so much more of concern. terrorist legislation will be invoked what does this mean? 1) will local public land be made inaccessible for security reasons 2) how much will locals be inconvenienced? 3) Will protesters rights be usurped?" Those at last, are fair and sensible questions that deserve an answer from the people in charge. LSC

12:08am Wed 5 Jun 13

Watford Coalition of Resistance says...

LSC,

You appear to view discussion as a 'point scoring' exercise. Such an attitude renders any discussion useless.
LSC, You appear to view discussion as a 'point scoring' exercise. Such an attitude renders any discussion useless. Watford Coalition of Resistance

12:10am Wed 5 Jun 13

LSC says...

I'll tell you what you protesters SHOULD be worried about in our society. At this moment "Peter Andre films episode of 60 Minute Makeover in Abbots Langley" is the fourth most read story on this site, after 3 WFC stories.

THAT should frighten you for the future of mankind 10 times more than this meeting does.
I'll tell you what you protesters SHOULD be worried about in our society. At this moment "Peter Andre films episode of 60 Minute Makeover in Abbots Langley" is the fourth most read story on this site, after 3 WFC stories. THAT should frighten you for the future of mankind 10 times more than this meeting does. LSC

12:13am Wed 5 Jun 13

MarsLander says...

Watford Coalition of Resistance wrote:
LSC,

You appear to view discussion as a 'point scoring' exercise. Such an attitude renders any discussion useless.
Particularly when all the points are scored by the opposition, eh? No wonder you don't want to try and make any points when all that happens is you get shot down in flames.

Loony left/greens/SWP - no argument and no consistency. Much like the Liberals, just another branch of a failed evolutionary political tree.
[quote][p][bold]Watford Coalition of Resistance[/bold] wrote: LSC, You appear to view discussion as a 'point scoring' exercise. Such an attitude renders any discussion useless.[/p][/quote]Particularly when all the points are scored by the opposition, eh? No wonder you don't want to try and make any points when all that happens is you get shot down in flames. Loony left/greens/SWP - no argument and no consistency. Much like the Liberals, just another branch of a failed evolutionary political tree. MarsLander

12:16am Wed 5 Jun 13

LSC says...

"LSC,

You appear to view discussion as a 'point scoring' exercise. Such an attitude renders any discussion useless."

Well, in a way it is. You make a comment, I prove it to be incorrect, hypocritical or irrational. That is usually how debates work, isn't it?

That is all I have done so far. It wouldn't be so easy if you didn't have so many nutters on your side.

For the record, I have never said I approve of this group. I have simply pointed out the arguments against them have so far been 'silly', at best.
"LSC, You appear to view discussion as a 'point scoring' exercise. Such an attitude renders any discussion useless." Well, in a way it is. You make a comment, I prove it to be incorrect, hypocritical or irrational. That is usually how debates work, isn't it? That is all I have done so far. It wouldn't be so easy if you didn't have so many nutters on your side. For the record, I have never said I approve of this group. I have simply pointed out the arguments against them have so far been 'silly', at best. LSC

12:20am Wed 5 Jun 13

Gaz1222 says...

“I don’t think it’s true to say that we want to keep it out , we never wanted to get it in. We don’t encourage people to mention it in the mainstream press because we don’t encourage idle speculation about what we do. …… We forbid individual attendees from giving press meetings at our conferences, and we do that not because we’re secrecy mad, but because we want to control the politicians who come.” Martin Taylor – Secretary General, Bilderberg
“I don’t think it’s true to say that we want to keep it [Bilderberg] out [of the public consciousness], we never wanted to get it in. We don’t encourage people to mention it in the mainstream press because we don’t encourage idle speculation about what we do. …… We forbid individual attendees from giving press meetings at our conferences, and we do that not because we’re secrecy mad, but because we want to control the politicians who come.” Martin Taylor – Secretary General, Bilderberg Gaz1222

12:24am Wed 5 Jun 13

LSC says...

Case proven. What Gaz just posted was out of context and irrelevant. Is that how YOU see proper debate, Watford Coalition of Resistance?
Case proven. What Gaz just posted was out of context and irrelevant. Is that how YOU see proper debate, Watford Coalition of Resistance? LSC

12:37am Wed 5 Jun 13

Watford Coalition of Resistance says...

MarsLander wrote:
Watford Coalition of Resistance wrote:
LSC,

You appear to view discussion as a 'point scoring' exercise. Such an attitude renders any discussion useless.
Particularly when all the points are scored by the opposition, eh? No wonder you don't want to try and make any points when all that happens is you get shot down in flames.

Loony left/greens/SWP - no argument and no consistency. Much like the Liberals, just another branch of a failed evolutionary political tree.
How have you proved the factual comments regarding the Logan Act, incorrect?

More broadly speaking, that may be how debates 'work' in your world. In our world, debates provide information.

You have jumped to an assumption as to what our stance is. You categorise everyone as 'for' or 'against'. Realistically, life isn't that simple.

Loony/left/greens/sw
p - would you care to explain these labels and how they apply?
[quote][p][bold]MarsLander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Watford Coalition of Resistance[/bold] wrote: LSC, You appear to view discussion as a 'point scoring' exercise. Such an attitude renders any discussion useless.[/p][/quote]Particularly when all the points are scored by the opposition, eh? No wonder you don't want to try and make any points when all that happens is you get shot down in flames. Loony left/greens/SWP - no argument and no consistency. Much like the Liberals, just another branch of a failed evolutionary political tree.[/p][/quote]How have you proved the factual comments regarding the Logan Act, incorrect? More broadly speaking, that may be how debates 'work' in your world. In our world, debates provide information. You have jumped to an assumption as to what our stance is. You categorise everyone as 'for' or 'against'. Realistically, life isn't that simple. Loony/left/greens/sw p - would you care to explain these labels and how they apply? Watford Coalition of Resistance

1:45am Wed 5 Jun 13

MarsLander says...

Who are the members of the Watford Coalition of Resistance?

When was it formed?

What is its purpose?

How often does it meet?

What are your plans re the Bilderberg meeting?

Answer me that first.
Who are the members of the Watford Coalition of Resistance? When was it formed? What is its purpose? How often does it meet? What are your plans re the Bilderberg meeting? Answer me that first. MarsLander

2:12am Wed 5 Jun 13

Alfie Nokes says...

Is it just me or is anyone else experiencing the Streisand effect?

Although there are enough strawmen in these posts to supply all the farms in Russia for the next two decades, what do we do with the left over ad-hominems?
I'll be having sleepless nights over that, I can tell you.
Is it just me or is anyone else experiencing the Streisand effect? Although there are enough strawmen in these posts to supply all the farms in Russia for the next two decades, what do we do with the left over ad-hominems? I'll be having sleepless nights over that, I can tell you. Alfie Nokes

9:13am Wed 5 Jun 13

dontknowynot says...

@marslander
Watford Coalition of Resistance are part of the coalition of resistance (google it). This was set up in 2010 by Tony Benn to oppose Austerity, initially it was dominated by the SWP and in Watford up until recently it was basically SWP or former SWP members. As to The current state of the SWP or Coalition of resistance or SWP: gawd knows, but rest assured they will want to have a presence outside the Grove.
Its all rather woolly really a bit like the connections between EDL/BNP and UKIP
@marslander Watford Coalition of Resistance are part of the coalition of resistance (google it). This was set up in 2010 by Tony Benn to oppose Austerity, initially it was dominated by the SWP and in Watford up until recently it was basically SWP or former SWP members. As to The current state of the SWP or Coalition of resistance or SWP: gawd knows, but rest assured they will want to have a presence outside the Grove. Its all rather woolly really a bit like the connections between EDL/BNP and UKIP dontknowynot

10:22am Wed 5 Jun 13

garston tony says...

This is getting more ridiculous, this is a private meeting so nothing to do with the government.

If she has a problem with the cost then take it up directly with either the organisers of the meeting, or actually more pertinantly those protesting because they actually are a major reason why there is a need for a police presence in the first place.

It does just smack of using the situation to try and get her profile raised a little higher. And if it is in the Three Rivers area whats it to her anyway!


Cuetip. EVIDENCE PLEASE!

Oh and please, people want to protest and moan there is nowhere they can do it officially. Then the Grove provide a spot and they moan about that too. Typifies the protesters really, doesnt matter about reality they just want to have a go regardless.
This is getting more ridiculous, this is a private meeting so nothing to do with the government. If she has a problem with the cost then take it up directly with either the organisers of the meeting, or actually more pertinantly those protesting because they actually are a major reason why there is a need for a police presence in the first place. It does just smack of using the situation to try and get her profile raised a little higher. And if it is in the Three Rivers area whats it to her anyway! Cuetip. EVIDENCE PLEASE! Oh and please, people want to protest and moan there is nowhere they can do it officially. Then the Grove provide a spot and they moan about that too. Typifies the protesters really, doesnt matter about reality they just want to have a go regardless. garston tony

10:25am Wed 5 Jun 13

garston tony says...

You anti Bilderbergers are a confused lot.

Some of you say that the world economic crisis is part of a Bilderberg master plan and they are behind the debt and borrowing, then you have another lot who say that the sensible idea of trying to reduce spending and therefore borrowing and therefore debt in order to tackle the problem (ie austerity) is also a Bilderberg plan whilst yet another group actually want the country to spend more more more which is what got us into this position in the first place (and is according to some of you apparently a Bilderberg plan in the first place)!

I would say make up your minds but your lack of coherensy just shows how rubbish all of what you say against this meeting is and is providing us with plenty of laughs (at your expense of course)
You anti Bilderbergers are a confused lot. Some of you say that the world economic crisis is part of a Bilderberg master plan and they are behind the debt and borrowing, then you have another lot who say that the sensible idea of trying to reduce spending and therefore borrowing and therefore debt in order to tackle the problem (ie austerity) is also a Bilderberg plan whilst yet another group actually want the country to spend more more more which is what got us into this position in the first place (and is according to some of you apparently a Bilderberg plan in the first place)! I would say make up your minds but your lack of coherensy just shows how rubbish all of what you say against this meeting is and is providing us with plenty of laughs (at your expense of course) garston tony

10:53am Wed 5 Jun 13

MarsLander says...

Nothing to do with local councils - it is the police's responsibility to keep order and find the costs. They should approach the government if they need the money.

Three Rivers have kept out of it because they know this.

Dotty has stuck her size 10's in because purely and simply because she is miffed no-one invited a LibDem and she wants the publicity.

Sad really that politicians stoop so low just for publicity, but no surprise in Watford.

The LibDems are just embarrassing in their actions over this perfectly legal nothing-to-do-with-t
hem conference.
Nothing to do with local councils - it is the police's responsibility to keep order and find the costs. They should approach the government if they need the money. Three Rivers have kept out of it because they know this. Dotty has stuck her size 10's in because purely and simply because she is miffed no-one invited a LibDem and she wants the publicity. Sad really that politicians stoop so low just for publicity, but no surprise in Watford. The LibDems are just embarrassing in their actions over this perfectly legal nothing-to-do-with-t hem conference. MarsLander

10:53am Wed 5 Jun 13

#UKMum says...

The Mayor of Watford left it until a couple of days before the event to write to PM about her concerns over the policing bill for BB. Has it taken Dorothy all this time to

a) Google 'Bilderberg' and find out where they were holding their meeting

b) Ascertain the protester numbers at other venues in the last few years

c) Liaise with the various groups and work out a sensible outcome for Watford.

Dorothy hasn't done any of this. What has she spent the last 5/6 months doing? Hoping no-one would find out? Planning her own garden party?

If she did write at the last min, it would have been better not to announce it in the paper but as a 'by-the-way' afterwards when the money for police bill had been wrung out of the BB participants.
The Mayor of Watford left it until a couple of days before the event to write to PM about her concerns over the policing bill for BB. Has it taken Dorothy all this time to a) Google 'Bilderberg' and find out where they were holding their meeting b) Ascertain the protester numbers at other venues in the last few years c) Liaise with the various groups and work out a sensible outcome for Watford. Dorothy hasn't done any of this. What has she spent the last 5/6 months doing? Hoping no-one would find out? Planning her own garden party? If she did write at the last min, it would have been better not to announce it in the paper but as a 'by-the-way' afterwards when the money for police bill had been wrung out of the BB participants. #UKMum

10:53am Wed 5 Jun 13

Colonel Kurtz says...

Looking at the attendees its all fat cat Bankers, vile tax dodging CEO's of Amazon, Google and Apple plus other multi-millionaires. Not to mention George Osbourne and Ed Balls (which should be accountable to the public). Why do they want to come to Watford. Surely it would be better to hold their top secret meeting on a Tracy island in the pacific. Their top secret agenda to rule the world on their own terms is quite disgusting. A private secret club costing the tax payers is wrong. I think I will join the demo just for this reason.
Looking at the attendees its all fat cat Bankers, vile tax dodging CEO's of Amazon, Google and Apple plus other multi-millionaires. Not to mention George Osbourne and Ed Balls (which should be accountable to the public). Why do they want to come to Watford. Surely it would be better to hold their top secret meeting on a Tracy island in the pacific. Their top secret agenda to rule the world on their own terms is quite disgusting. A private secret club costing the tax payers is wrong. I think I will join the demo just for this reason. Colonel Kurtz

10:56am Wed 5 Jun 13

Alfie Nokes says...

Ah well, if we are re-assured that the government's Chancellor, the Shadow Chancellor, a cabinet minister (who sits on Bilderberg's steering committee), a particular former Labour First Secretary, and two members of the upper house are taking annual leave to attend a private meeting as only themselves and not spending our taxes as being nothing to do with the government we'll sleep much easier.
Ah well, if we are re-assured that the government's Chancellor, the Shadow Chancellor, a cabinet minister (who sits on Bilderberg's steering committee), a particular former Labour First Secretary, and two members of the upper house are taking annual leave to attend a private meeting as only themselves and not spending our taxes as being nothing to do with the government we'll sleep much easier. Alfie Nokes

10:58am Wed 5 Jun 13

MarsLander says...

Colonel Kurtz wrote:
Looking at the attendees its all fat cat Bankers, vile tax dodging CEO's of Amazon, Google and Apple plus other multi-millionaires. Not to mention George Osbourne and Ed Balls (which should be accountable to the public). Why do they want to come to Watford. Surely it would be better to hold their top secret meeting on a Tracy island in the pacific. Their top secret agenda to rule the world on their own terms is quite disgusting. A private secret club costing the tax payers is wrong. I think I will join the demo just for this reason.
What a shame it attracts people like you to protest. Watford doesn't need or want you. Save your benefits - stay home.
[quote][p][bold]Colonel Kurtz[/bold] wrote: Looking at the attendees its all fat cat Bankers, vile tax dodging CEO's of Amazon, Google and Apple plus other multi-millionaires. Not to mention George Osbourne and Ed Balls (which should be accountable to the public). Why do they want to come to Watford. Surely it would be better to hold their top secret meeting on a Tracy island in the pacific. Their top secret agenda to rule the world on their own terms is quite disgusting. A private secret club costing the tax payers is wrong. I think I will join the demo just for this reason.[/p][/quote]What a shame it attracts people like you to protest. Watford doesn't need or want you. Save your benefits - stay home. MarsLander

11:26am Wed 5 Jun 13

Roy Stockdill says...

>Who are the members of the Watford Coalition of Resistance?<

Isn't this all getting extremely daft? The Watford Coalition of Resistance sounds about as barmy as the People's Front of Judea, or was it the Judean People's Front, as in that marvellous Monty Python film, Life of Brian. As I write this, I can still see John Cleese as a Roman centurion ticking off Graham Chapman (as Brian) for his ungrammatical rendering of "Romans go home" scrawled on a wall, with Cleese explaining that he has used the wrong declension!!!

Sadly, the Loony Left appear to be distinctly lacking in a sense of humour, take themselves far too seriously and have little understanding of how absurd their posturing can be to the rest of us.
>Who are the members of the Watford Coalition of Resistance?< Isn't this all getting extremely daft? The Watford Coalition of Resistance sounds about as barmy as the People's Front of Judea, or was it the Judean People's Front, as in that marvellous Monty Python film, Life of Brian. As I write this, I can still see John Cleese as a Roman centurion ticking off Graham Chapman (as Brian) for his ungrammatical rendering of "Romans go home" scrawled on a wall, with Cleese explaining that he has used the wrong declension!!! Sadly, the Loony Left appear to be distinctly lacking in a sense of humour, take themselves far too seriously and have little understanding of how absurd their posturing can be to the rest of us. Roy Stockdill

11:30am Wed 5 Jun 13

#UKMum says...

Marslander:

What's it to you if a protester is 'on benefits' or not. Just because you may never had to suffer a trip or two to the Job Centre.

Are you implying all who are attending the protest 'on benefits' as you put it

IDS Mental Note - 'Divide and rule strategy' certainly working in Watford at least..
Marslander: What's it to you if a protester is 'on benefits' or not. Just because you may never had to suffer a trip or two to the Job Centre. Are you implying all who are attending the protest 'on benefits' as you put it IDS Mental Note - 'Divide and rule strategy' certainly working in Watford at least.. #UKMum

11:34am Wed 5 Jun 13

Roy Stockdill says...

I am also reminded of how in Life of Brian, when told of Brian's impending crucifixion, Cleese as "Reg", the leader of the People's Front of Judea, immediately calls an emergency meeting of the entire movement (3 of them) and proposes they pass an entirely new motion protesting about it!

I expect meetings of the Watford Coalition of Resistance follow a similar pattern. I wonder where they meet, now that there aren't any telephone boxes any more?
I am also reminded of how in Life of Brian, when told of Brian's impending crucifixion, Cleese as "Reg", the leader of the People's Front of Judea, immediately calls an emergency meeting of the entire movement (3 of them) and proposes they pass an entirely new motion protesting about it! I expect meetings of the Watford Coalition of Resistance follow a similar pattern. I wonder where they meet, now that there aren't any telephone boxes any more? Roy Stockdill

11:42am Wed 5 Jun 13

Roy Stockdill says...

>What's it to you if a protester is 'on benefits' or not. Just because you may never had to suffer a trip or two to the Job Centre.<

Many who are on benefits are in that position through their own fault because they are not prepared to take whatever jobs they are offered, which is why all the immigrants are coming here from Eastern Europe to take them instead.
>What's it to you if a protester is 'on benefits' or not. Just because you may never had to suffer a trip or two to the Job Centre.< Many who are on benefits are in that position through their own fault because they are not prepared to take whatever jobs they are offered, which is why all the immigrants are coming here from Eastern Europe to take them instead. Roy Stockdill

11:45am Wed 5 Jun 13

MarsLander says...

#UKMum wrote:
Marslander:

What's it to you if a protester is 'on benefits' or not. Just because you may never had to suffer a trip or two to the Job Centre.

Are you implying all who are attending the protest 'on benefits' as you put it

IDS Mental Note - 'Divide and rule strategy' certainly working in Watford at least..
I've been on benefits several times. There's no stigma attached in my eyes.

The fact that someone can on a whim decide to just roll up and protest for no good reason suggested to me a freedom of time not normally associated with people in legal work.

If I am right, then there are better things to be spending benefit money on.
[quote][p][bold]#UKMum[/bold] wrote: Marslander: What's it to you if a protester is 'on benefits' or not. Just because you may never had to suffer a trip or two to the Job Centre. Are you implying all who are attending the protest 'on benefits' as you put it IDS Mental Note - 'Divide and rule strategy' certainly working in Watford at least..[/p][/quote]I've been on benefits several times. There's no stigma attached in my eyes. The fact that someone can on a whim decide to just roll up and protest for no good reason suggested to me a freedom of time not normally associated with people in legal work. If I am right, then there are better things to be spending benefit money on. MarsLander

12:01pm Wed 5 Jun 13

E.Coli says...

THE all-powerful Bilderberg Group has met to decide whether the puffball skirt will make a comeback in autumn.

Werewolves could be the new vampires
Other issues to be discussed by the group, which includes business leaders, powerful politicians and Ed Balls, are whether there should be a Miranda Christmas special and the exact breeds of dog allowed to use the suffix ‘doodle’.

Protestor Tom Booker said: “Every year the world’s most powerful people get together to decide vital issues like the new levels on Angry Birds Seasons and if chandeliers are still happening in suburban living rooms, and every year the public is locked out of the process.

“But we’re the ones who must deal with the consequences. We have to eat the salted caramels, wear the Superdry clothes and watch the Twilight films.”

Bilderberg attendee George Osborne said: “The conspiracy theorists have got it all wrong. We’re not discussing world-changing stuff, like bringing out iPhones in a range of bright colours or Jennifer Lawrence’s secret carbs-on-Tuesdays diet.

“It’s just really boring ****, like the planned collapse of the world economy, the suppression of drugs which can halt the aging process and secret contact with alien civilisations. You wouldn’t be at all interested.

“Oh, and it’s not true about world leaders secretly being seven-foot lizards. Apart from Peter Mandelson obviously.”
THE all-powerful Bilderberg Group has met to decide whether the puffball skirt will make a comeback in autumn. Werewolves could be the new vampires Other issues to be discussed by the group, which includes business leaders, powerful politicians and Ed Balls, are whether there should be a Miranda Christmas special and the exact breeds of dog allowed to use the suffix ‘doodle’. Protestor Tom Booker said: “Every year the world’s most powerful people get together to decide vital issues like the new levels on Angry Birds Seasons and if chandeliers are still happening in suburban living rooms, and every year the public is locked out of the process. “But we’re the ones who must deal with the consequences. We have to eat the salted caramels, wear the Superdry clothes and watch the Twilight films.” Bilderberg attendee George Osborne said: “The conspiracy theorists have got it all wrong. We’re not discussing world-changing stuff, like bringing out iPhones in a range of bright colours or Jennifer Lawrence’s secret carbs-on-Tuesdays diet. “It’s just really boring ****, like the planned collapse of the world economy, the suppression of drugs which can halt the aging process and secret contact with alien civilisations. You wouldn’t be at all interested. “Oh, and it’s not true about world leaders secretly being seven-foot lizards. Apart from Peter Mandelson obviously.” E.Coli

1:03pm Wed 5 Jun 13

MarsLander says...

There's going to be a dozen nutters looking for your youtube page now. Don't say you weren't warned!
There's going to be a dozen nutters looking for your youtube page now. Don't say you weren't warned! MarsLander

1:49pm Wed 5 Jun 13

inquisitive mind says...

Cuetip says...
6:24pm Tue 4 Jun 13

The Bilderberg Agenda really isn’t that secret?

1 How to seize your wealth and feather our own nest eggs.

2 Harmonise EU youth unemployment with Spain and Greece which is at 60%.

Please feel free to submit additional agenda items.

very kind of you, if i may'

,http://www.ukcolumn
.org/article/bilderb
erg-2013-birth-globa
l-tax-

on topic tho

http://beforeitsnews
.com/international/2
013/04/bilderberg-be
hind-terrorist-attac
ks-italian-supreme-c
ourt-president-drops
-bombshell-2455434.h
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and the full sp on Club bilderberg

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?feature=pla
yer_embedded&v=zVBww
uNUkyQ#!


(quot)
“One of the Bilderberg’s deceptions is to invite insignificant leaders in the academic & scientific realms as a “decoy.” Here Are The Real Players Attending the 2013 Bilderberg & They Are Jewish Bankers:
Ben Shalom Bernanke: Chairman of the privately held US Federal Reserve Bank.

http://www.blacklist
ednews.com/Seven_Ban
kers_That_Never_Miss
_Bilderberg_/26427/0
/0/0/Y/M.html


last year- but still pertinent to who is/or not attending...

http://therealnews.c
om/t2/component/hwdv
ideoshare/viewvideo/
73250/best-of-the-we
b/whos-afraid-of-war
-crimes-prosecution

and just for the nhay Sayers/flat earth types...

I apologize if you know any of this..
I apologize if you don't..

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=kMAXdLQUc
9w
Cuetip says... 6:24pm Tue 4 Jun 13 The Bilderberg Agenda really isn’t that secret? 1 How to seize your wealth and feather our own nest eggs. 2 Harmonise EU youth unemployment with Spain and Greece which is at 60%. Please feel free to submit additional agenda items. very kind of you, if i may' ,http://www.ukcolumn .org/article/bilderb erg-2013-birth-globa l-tax- on topic tho http://beforeitsnews .com/international/2 013/04/bilderberg-be hind-terrorist-attac ks-italian-supreme-c ourt-president-drops -bombshell-2455434.h tml and the full sp on Club bilderberg http://www.youtube.c om/watch?feature=pla yer_embedded&v=zVBww uNUkyQ#! (quot) “One of the Bilderberg’s deceptions is to invite insignificant leaders in the academic & scientific realms as a “decoy.” Here Are The Real Players Attending the 2013 Bilderberg & They Are Jewish Bankers: Ben Shalom Bernanke: Chairman of the privately held US Federal Reserve Bank. http://www.blacklist ednews.com/Seven_Ban kers_That_Never_Miss _Bilderberg_/26427/0 /0/0/Y/M.html last year- but still pertinent to who is/or not attending... http://therealnews.c om/t2/component/hwdv ideoshare/viewvideo/ 73250/best-of-the-we b/whos-afraid-of-war -crimes-prosecution and just for the nhay Sayers/flat earth types... I apologize if you know any of this.. I apologize if you don't.. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=kMAXdLQUc 9w inquisitive mind

2:43pm Wed 5 Jun 13

Cuetip says...

garston tony says...
10:22am Wed 5 Jun 13
This is getting more ridiculous, this is a private meeting so nothing to do with the government.
Cuetip. EVIDENCE PLEASE!
‘Oh and please, people want to protest and moan there is nowhere they can do it officially. Then the Grove provide a spot and they moan about that too. Typifies the protesters really, doesnt matter about reality they just want to have a go regardless’.

Oh Tony you are getting a tad hot under the collar. Alot of residents are very concerned about the precedent of turning a sizeable grass verge along the old Hempstead Rd into a car park for Holyrood School parents. Hope they can express a protest and not be tarred as loony.

Secondly, are these politicians moonlighting on gov’t time and are they accountable as to how they spend their time with some sort of yearly appraisal. I suppose they can do what they like whether it’s official or whatever. But why are they transparent with 60 % ‘youth unemployment ‘ or perhaps they have got more important things to mull over.

Don’t you think it’s really jolly inclusive ( a very rare thing today) and British to see the police, the protesters and the secret Bilderberg lot cosying up. Maybe the friendly police might share their happy snaps of all groups and perhaps sell the rights to help the public purse to provide a few apprenticeships.
garston tony says... 10:22am Wed 5 Jun 13 This is getting more ridiculous, this is a private meeting so nothing to do with the government. Cuetip. EVIDENCE PLEASE! ‘Oh and please, people want to protest and moan there is nowhere they can do it officially. Then the Grove provide a spot and they moan about that too. Typifies the protesters really, doesnt matter about reality they just want to have a go regardless’. Oh Tony you are getting a tad hot under the collar. Alot of residents are very concerned about the precedent of turning a sizeable grass verge along the old Hempstead Rd into a car park for Holyrood School parents. Hope they can express a protest and not be tarred as loony. Secondly, are these politicians moonlighting on gov’t time and are they accountable as to how they spend their time with some sort of yearly appraisal. I suppose they can do what they like whether it’s official or whatever. But why are they transparent with 60 % ‘youth unemployment ‘ or perhaps they have got more important things to mull over. Don’t you think it’s really jolly inclusive ( a very rare thing today) and British to see the police, the protesters and the secret Bilderberg lot cosying up. Maybe the friendly police might share their happy snaps of all groups and perhaps sell the rights to help the public purse to provide a few apprenticeships. Cuetip

3:24pm Wed 5 Jun 13

bilderbergsucks says...

Keiser Report


In the second half, Max talks to writer, producer, journalist, Charlie Skelton about the upcoming Bilderberg event in Watford, UK and the protest groups around it.

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=5naCzyb9q
qI&feature=player_em
bedded
Keiser Report In the second half, Max talks to writer, producer, journalist, Charlie Skelton about the upcoming Bilderberg event in Watford, UK and the protest groups around it. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=5naCzyb9q qI&feature=player_em bedded bilderbergsucks

3:26pm Wed 5 Jun 13

bilderbergsucks says...

Is the new ‘Coca-Cola’ advertisement that is now being broadcast worldwide called “Chairs” an ‘anti-illuminati
advertisement, or is it another direct shot in the face of a dumbed down populace and overpowered humanity?

Check out the ad; the symbolism is there, it can't be missed. They clearly hit the nail right on the head in this one. ‘They’ are vastly outnumbered. If only we understood, we only need to ‘stand up’. They share their ’4 commitments to fight overweight and sedentary lifestyle’ in this video, yet they poison the populace daily; doesn’t this ad mean something else entirely?


http://www.dailypaul
.com/287703/new-coca
-cola-anti-illuminat
i-ad-chairs
Is the new ‘Coca-Cola’ advertisement that is now being broadcast worldwide called “Chairs” an ‘anti-illuminati advertisement, or is it another direct shot in the face of a dumbed down populace and overpowered humanity? Check out the ad; the symbolism is there, it can't be missed. They clearly hit the nail right on the head in this one. ‘They’ are vastly outnumbered. If only we understood, we only need to ‘stand up’. They share their ’4 commitments to fight overweight and sedentary lifestyle’ in this video, yet they poison the populace daily; doesn’t this ad mean something else entirely? http://www.dailypaul .com/287703/new-coca -cola-anti-illuminat i-ad-chairs bilderbergsucks

3:59pm Wed 5 Jun 13

Roy Stockdill says...

Oh P - U - LEASE! Now you're telling us we are all being brainwashed by TV ads? Symbolism? What a load of Ed Balls!

I don't know about you but I hardly ever look at TV adverts. Most sensible people I know use the time when they are interrupting programmes to make a cup of tea, pour a glass of wine, nip to the loo, make a phone call etc. Some of them are so pretentious and obscure that by the time they're over you've forgotten what it was they were supposed to be advertising.

Hark, do I hear the clatter of men in white coats jangling strait-jackets? "They're coming to take me away, away...they're coming to take me away"!
Oh P - U - LEASE! Now you're telling us we are all being brainwashed by TV ads? Symbolism? What a load of Ed Balls! I don't know about you but I hardly ever look at TV adverts. Most sensible people I know use the time when they are interrupting programmes to make a cup of tea, pour a glass of wine, nip to the loo, make a phone call etc. Some of them are so pretentious and obscure that by the time they're over you've forgotten what it was they were supposed to be advertising. Hark, do I hear the clatter of men in white coats jangling strait-jackets? "They're coming to take me away, away...they're coming to take me away"! Roy Stockdill

4:06pm Wed 5 Jun 13

LSC says...

I see I still have no answer to my perfectly straightforward question about the Logan Act.

Is not the Logan Act a Global law enforced by one powerful country upon it's citizens, ignoring borders, preventing free speech at risk of prison, EXACTLY the sort of thing you are protesting about?

And yet you want it enforced. Do you want more laws like that?

It is illegal to smoke weed in the UK, and I am a UK citizen. If I went to Amsterdam and did it, should I be arrested?
I see I still have no answer to my perfectly straightforward question about the Logan Act. Is not the Logan Act a Global law enforced by one powerful country upon it's citizens, ignoring borders, preventing free speech at risk of prison, EXACTLY the sort of thing you are protesting about? And yet you want it enforced. Do you want more laws like that? It is illegal to smoke weed in the UK, and I am a UK citizen. If I went to Amsterdam and did it, should I be arrested? LSC

4:20pm Wed 5 Jun 13

bilderbergsucks says...

Bilderberg 2013: welcome to 1984

Relax: thanks to Goldman Sachs and other 'donors', this year's conference will be cost-neutral for Hertfordshire – despite the construction of the Great Wall of Watford



The auditorium grew hushed as a senior Watford borough councillor took to his feet. The police liaison team looked nervous. They had made their presentation and laid out their plans for this "unique event": the anti-terrorism zones, the identity checks, the restriction on vehicles stopping in the vicinity of this "important international conference". But now it was the turn of the people of Watford to speak.

What would they make of this international three-day policy summit, with its heavyweight delegate list bulging with billionaire financiers, party leaders and media moguls, protected by the biggest security operation Watford has ever seen?

"What this whole thing boils down to," boomed the councillor, "is this: are you, or are you not, setting a precedent for vehicles parking on the verge of the Old Hempstead Road?"

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/world/2013/jun
/05/bilderberg-2013-
goldman-sachs-watfor
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Bilderberg 2013: welcome to 1984 Relax: thanks to Goldman Sachs and other 'donors', this year's conference will be cost-neutral for Hertfordshire – despite the construction of the Great Wall of Watford The auditorium grew hushed as a senior Watford borough councillor took to his feet. The police liaison team looked nervous. They had made their presentation and laid out their plans for this "unique event": the anti-terrorism zones, the identity checks, the restriction on vehicles stopping in the vicinity of this "important international conference". But now it was the turn of the people of Watford to speak. What would they make of this international three-day policy summit, with its heavyweight delegate list bulging with billionaire financiers, party leaders and media moguls, protected by the biggest security operation Watford has ever seen? "What this whole thing boils down to," boomed the councillor, "is this: are you, or are you not, setting a precedent for vehicles parking on the verge of the Old Hempstead Road?" http://www.guardian. co.uk/world/2013/jun /05/bilderberg-2013- goldman-sachs-watfor d bilderbergsucks

4:35pm Wed 5 Jun 13

bilderbergsucks says...

Kaka-bad , talking as his name would suggest.
He mentions one world government, and how it's all going to plan, in the same breath he acknowledges that the poor are getting poorer while the rich are doing the opposite.

Interesting if you like hearing from a gatekeeper apologist for tyranny, greed and power..


Bilderberg 2013: Andrew Kakabadse on How Elite Power Shapes the World
Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:11

http://beforeitsnews
.com/alternative/201
3/06/bilderberg-2013
-andrew-kakabadse-on
-how-elite-power-sha
pes-the-world-267293
2.html
Kaka-bad , talking as his name would suggest. He mentions one world government, and how it's all going to plan, in the same breath he acknowledges that the poor are getting poorer while the rich are doing the opposite. Interesting if you like hearing from a gatekeeper apologist for tyranny, greed and power.. Bilderberg 2013: Andrew Kakabadse on How Elite Power Shapes the World Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:11 http://beforeitsnews .com/alternative/201 3/06/bilderberg-2013 -andrew-kakabadse-on -how-elite-power-sha pes-the-world-267293 2.html bilderbergsucks

4:43pm Wed 5 Jun 13

bilderbergsucks says...

Sorry this is a better link to the kakabadse interview

http://www.prisonpla
net.com/bilderberg-2
013-andrew-kakabadse
-on-how-elite-power-
shapes-the-world.htm
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Sorry this is a better link to the kakabadse interview http://www.prisonpla net.com/bilderberg-2 013-andrew-kakabadse -on-how-elite-power- shapes-the-world.htm l bilderbergsucks

4:46pm Wed 5 Jun 13

bilderbergsucks says...

No minutes, no press conferences - just the world's power brokers chewing the fat on the issues of the day. It's the Bilderberg conference - and it's coming to a suburb near you

From tomorrow, Watford’s finest hotel and spa will host the secretive Bilderberg conference where power brokers may include Cameron, Kissinger and even Obama. Joy Lo Dico gets a room

http://www.standard.
co.uk/lifestyle/lond
on-life/no-minutes-n
o-press-conferences-
-just-the-worlds-pow
er-brokers-chewing-t
he-fat-on-the-issues
-of-the-day-its-the-
bilderberg-conferenc
e--and-its-coming-to
-a-suburb-near-you-8
645411.html
No minutes, no press conferences - just the world's power brokers chewing the fat on the issues of the day. It's the Bilderberg conference - and it's coming to a suburb near you From tomorrow, Watford’s finest hotel and spa will host the secretive Bilderberg conference where power brokers may include Cameron, Kissinger and even Obama. Joy Lo Dico gets a room http://www.standard. co.uk/lifestyle/lond on-life/no-minutes-n o-press-conferences- -just-the-worlds-pow er-brokers-chewing-t he-fat-on-the-issues -of-the-day-its-the- bilderberg-conferenc e--and-its-coming-to -a-suburb-near-you-8 645411.html bilderbergsucks

5:53pm Wed 5 Jun 13

Harry Caine says...

garston tony wrote:
You anti Bilderbergers are a confused lot.

Some of you say that the world economic crisis is part of a Bilderberg master plan and they are behind the debt and borrowing, then you have another lot who say that the sensible idea of trying to reduce spending and therefore borrowing and therefore debt in order to tackle the problem (ie austerity) is also a Bilderberg plan whilst yet another group actually want the country to spend more more more which is what got us into this position in the first place (and is according to some of you apparently a Bilderberg plan in the first place)!

I would say make up your minds but your lack of coherensy just shows how rubbish all of what you say against this meeting is and is providing us with plenty of laughs (at your expense of course)
It's a lot more complicated or possibly simpler, than you think, depending on how you construe this:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=e4C3HMQmn
yw
[quote][p][bold]garston tony[/bold] wrote: You anti Bilderbergers are a confused lot. Some of you say that the world economic crisis is part of a Bilderberg master plan and they are behind the debt and borrowing, then you have another lot who say that the sensible idea of trying to reduce spending and therefore borrowing and therefore debt in order to tackle the problem (ie austerity) is also a Bilderberg plan whilst yet another group actually want the country to spend more more more which is what got us into this position in the first place (and is according to some of you apparently a Bilderberg plan in the first place)! I would say make up your minds but your lack of coherensy just shows how rubbish all of what you say against this meeting is and is providing us with plenty of laughs (at your expense of course)[/p][/quote]It's a lot more complicated or possibly simpler, than you think, depending on how you construe this: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=e4C3HMQmn yw Harry Caine

5:56pm Wed 5 Jun 13

Harry Caine says...

Harry Caine wrote:
garston tony wrote:
You anti Bilderbergers are a confused lot.

Some of you say that the world economic crisis is part of a Bilderberg master plan and they are behind the debt and borrowing, then you have another lot who say that the sensible idea of trying to reduce spending and therefore borrowing and therefore debt in order to tackle the problem (ie austerity) is also a Bilderberg plan whilst yet another group actually want the country to spend more more more which is what got us into this position in the first place (and is according to some of you apparently a Bilderberg plan in the first place)!

I would say make up your minds but your lack of coherensy just shows how rubbish all of what you say against this meeting is and is providing us with plenty of laughs (at your expense of course)
It's a lot more complicated or possibly simpler, than you think, depending on how you construe this:
http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=e4C3HMQmn

yw
Or try this on for size:

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=Dh2X2K3eb
vQ
[quote][p][bold]Harry Caine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garston tony[/bold] wrote: You anti Bilderbergers are a confused lot. Some of you say that the world economic crisis is part of a Bilderberg master plan and they are behind the debt and borrowing, then you have another lot who say that the sensible idea of trying to reduce spending and therefore borrowing and therefore debt in order to tackle the problem (ie austerity) is also a Bilderberg plan whilst yet another group actually want the country to spend more more more which is what got us into this position in the first place (and is according to some of you apparently a Bilderberg plan in the first place)! I would say make up your minds but your lack of coherensy just shows how rubbish all of what you say against this meeting is and is providing us with plenty of laughs (at your expense of course)[/p][/quote]It's a lot more complicated or possibly simpler, than you think, depending on how you construe this: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=e4C3HMQmn yw[/p][/quote]Or try this on for size: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=Dh2X2K3eb vQ Harry Caine

10:54pm Wed 5 Jun 13

LSC says...

Lots of posts. Still no answer.
Lots of posts. Still no answer. LSC

10:58pm Wed 5 Jun 13

Roy Stockdill says...

If any of us had the time to watch all the videos that Bilderbergsucks and his chums are directing us to I doubt we would ever get anything else done! Isn't it all becoming quite unbelievably boring? For pete's sake, bring on the conference and the protesters, let them shout at each other for a few days and then let them all sod off back to wherever they came from, so we can all get back to some semblance of normality. Does anyone really, seriously care?
If any of us had the time to watch all the videos that Bilderbergsucks and his chums are directing us to I doubt we would ever get anything else done! Isn't it all becoming quite unbelievably boring? For pete's sake, bring on the conference and the protesters, let them shout at each other for a few days and then let them all sod off back to wherever they came from, so we can all get back to some semblance of normality. Does anyone really, seriously care? Roy Stockdill

8:42am Thu 6 Jun 13

Cuetip says...

At this progressive meet is biodiversity on the agenda or is it only brought out when it’s convenient to impose on ordinary mortals because I hear the wildlife have all fled for fear of being culled or going deaf with all the noise and blind with all the lights? Shouldn’t world leaders start acting like the current pope and at least downsize now and meet in a favela?
As they dream do they ever think"Respice post te! Hominem te esse memento! Memento mori!"
At this progressive meet is biodiversity on the agenda or is it only brought out when it’s convenient to impose on ordinary mortals because I hear the wildlife have all fled for fear of being culled or going deaf with all the noise and blind with all the lights? Shouldn’t world leaders start acting like the current pope and at least downsize now and meet in a favela? As they dream do they ever think"Respice post te! Hominem te esse memento! Memento mori!" Cuetip

11:15am Thu 6 Jun 13

inquisitive mind says...

@Roy Stockdill says...
10:58pm Wed 5 Jun 13
Does anyone really, seriously care?

Mankind is on the brink of global slavery/tyranny-Fact


Your government are Gangsters in suits,they scam/lie/cheat/steal
,
commit war crimes/ect -FACT

your £ in your pocket is counter-fit, a fiat currency backed by nill/0/nadda
QE= print money from 0 charge interest from that 0 = Fraud -FACT

All banks are mafia operations,global fraud,money laundering,
cheating and stealing from the common man.
HSBC just settled for $1.9 billion for drug money laundering= 5wks earnings
The HongKong and shanghai bank - very old hsbc= opium wars.FACT

In the uk you can be rich and famous/ politics/civil servant and be up to your
neck in the' filth and evil of pedophilia.the higher your stature the + chances
of NEVER seeing the light of justice.
did you know their is 46 pedoe investigations going on.
( will dbl check my facts) as i do believe th 1st started 1973 and on going. FACT
*we know how low it go's- its how high the stench of filth goes*= to the very top.Fact

I can go on,and on, - can put up loads of links to back my facts ( do your own home work)

When you look your kids(assumption) in the eye and tell them,
THEY will find a job/get a home/be out of dept/have money in their pocket,
their kids can go to a decent school, ect ect. and they ask why its not their??
i fully expect the reply in your' WILLFUL IGNORANCE to say YOU did not seriously care.

enjoy your soon coming SLAVERY
( you will make a good one)

Does anyone really, seriously care? clearly not you Rod!!!! shame on you.
@Roy Stockdill says... 10:58pm Wed 5 Jun 13 Does anyone really, seriously care? Mankind is on the brink of global slavery/tyranny-Fact Your government are Gangsters in suits,they scam/lie/cheat/steal , commit war crimes/ect -FACT your £ in your pocket is counter-fit, a fiat currency backed by nill/0/nadda QE= print money from 0 charge interest from that 0 = Fraud -FACT All banks are mafia operations,global fraud,money laundering, cheating and stealing from the common man. HSBC just settled for $1.9 billion for drug money laundering= 5wks earnings The HongKong and shanghai bank - very old hsbc= opium wars.FACT In the uk you can be rich and famous/ politics/civil servant and be up to your neck in the' filth and evil of pedophilia.the higher your stature the + chances of NEVER seeing the light of justice. did you know their is 46 pedoe investigations going on. ( will dbl check my facts) as i do believe th 1st started 1973 and on going. FACT *we know how low it go's- its how high the stench of filth goes*= to the very top.Fact I can go on,and on, - can put up loads of links to back my facts ( do your own home work) When you look your kids(assumption) in the eye and tell them, THEY will find a job/get a home/be out of dept/have money in their pocket, their kids can go to a decent school, ect ect. and they ask why its not their?? i fully expect the reply in your' WILLFUL IGNORANCE to say YOU did not seriously care. enjoy your soon coming SLAVERY ( you will make a good one) Does anyone really, seriously care? clearly not you Rod!!!! shame on you. inquisitive mind

11:46am Thu 6 Jun 13

Roy Stockdill says...

Such a pity, inquisitive mind, that your grasp of the English language, spelling, grammar and punctuation doesn't live up to your interesting pseudonym!

I don't think I have read such a rambling, ranting, illiterate diatribe in a long time, except of course those from your friend, Bilderbergsucks. You couldn't even get my name right - it's Roy, not Rod!
Such a pity, inquisitive mind, that your grasp of the English language, spelling, grammar and punctuation doesn't live up to your interesting pseudonym! I don't think I have read such a rambling, ranting, illiterate diatribe in a long time, except of course those from your friend, Bilderbergsucks. You couldn't even get my name right - it's Roy, not Rod! Roy Stockdill

1:04pm Thu 6 Jun 13

garston tony says...

The world is going, erm, ladies breasts up without a doubt. But please please please someone actually give me evidence that this group are master minding it, there is only so many times you can laugth at the same c r a p being claimed about them but now its boring
The world is going, erm, ladies breasts up without a doubt. But please please please someone actually give me evidence that this group are master minding it, there is only so many times you can laugth at the same c r a p being claimed about them but now its boring garston tony

5:16pm Thu 6 Jun 13

phil mitchel says...

She's got a bad case of sour grapes because she never got an invite, sadly a bandwagon the lib dems can't jump on.
She's got a bad case of sour grapes because she never got an invite, sadly a bandwagon the lib dems can't jump on. phil mitchel

5:19pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Mike Watford says...

MarsLander wrote:
Is this idiotic Mayor suggesting the Bilderberg group pay for the policing costs? It seems so. Poor deluded dotty, she's lost the plot once again. The Bilderberg group are not likely to cause problems, it is nutty greens and other misfits and terrorists that the police are needed for. I believe the policing bill should be picked up by the government and not the local taxpayers, but to suggest the Bilderbergs pick up the tab is to fundamentally misunderstand the responsibility of the public bodies and their role. Still, she is a Lib Dem so we shouldn't expect too much from her, should we? “While I realise the conference is funded by a cocktail of contributors, the local constabulary will surely have to pick up a substantial part of the tab, which is all the more galling when the participants in the conference are among the wealthiest people in the world.” - Dotty I find it more galling we have such a stupid bunch of councillors in charge of Watford, the Mayor being the cherry on top of, not the cake, but the custard pie. Clearly Dotty is not a fan or rich and successful people, just like Mark Watkin seems anti-business with his rant at the Grove, both are equally clueless. The know how to levy taxes, spend them and tell people how to live their lives down to the pettiest levels, but they seem to fail to understand how the world actually works and that without business there are no taxes. Dotty, no use going on at Bilderberg. Sit back, have a think and then have another stab at who should pick up the tab for this. You'll get there in the end (with a bit of luck). What a shower!
Oh dear - you always jump in feet first to contribute the opposite to what she says or does.

You say: "Is this Mayor suggesting the Bilderberg group pay for the policing costs?"

err, well the group have now said they will be contributing.

Someone else says: "ultimately it is nothing to do with Dotty and everything to do with the PCC"

err, well it does actually. That is part of the of the remit and wider role of an elected mayor. In any case, each local authority has its leader on the Panel that oversees the PCC role - so where the first line of this report says that 'she is voicing concern about the potential impact the Bilderberg security operation will have on the county’s police budget' - it is totally legitimate.
[quote][p][bold]MarsLander[/bold] wrote: Is this idiotic Mayor suggesting the Bilderberg group pay for the policing costs? It seems so. Poor deluded dotty, she's lost the plot once again. The Bilderberg group are not likely to cause problems, it is nutty greens and other misfits and terrorists that the police are needed for. I believe the policing bill should be picked up by the government and not the local taxpayers, but to suggest the Bilderbergs pick up the tab is to fundamentally misunderstand the responsibility of the public bodies and their role. Still, she is a Lib Dem so we shouldn't expect too much from her, should we? “While I realise the conference is funded by a cocktail of contributors, the local constabulary will surely have to pick up a substantial part of the tab, which is all the more galling when the participants in the conference are among the wealthiest people in the world.” - Dotty I find it more galling we have such a stupid bunch of councillors in charge of Watford, the Mayor being the cherry on top of, not the cake, but the custard pie. Clearly Dotty is not a fan or rich and successful people, just like Mark Watkin seems anti-business with his rant at the Grove, both are equally clueless. The know how to levy taxes, spend them and tell people how to live their lives down to the pettiest levels, but they seem to fail to understand how the world actually works and that without business there are no taxes. Dotty, no use going on at Bilderberg. Sit back, have a think and then have another stab at who should pick up the tab for this. You'll get there in the end (with a bit of luck). What a shower![/p][/quote]Oh dear - you always jump in feet first to contribute the opposite to what she says or does. You say: "Is this Mayor suggesting the Bilderberg group pay for the policing costs?" err, well the group have now said they will be contributing. Someone else says: "ultimately it is nothing to do with Dotty and everything to do with the PCC" err, well it does actually. That is part of the of the remit and wider role of an elected mayor. In any case, each local authority has its leader on the Panel that oversees the PCC role - so where the first line of this report says that 'she is voicing concern about the potential impact the Bilderberg security operation will have on the county’s police budget' - it is totally legitimate. Mike Watford

5:23pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Mike Watford says...

Retlas wrote:
The Grove is in Three Rivers District and has naff all to do with Dotty and Watford Borough! Ann Shaw should be the person complaining but seems to be conspicuous by her lack of interest! Any chance she has to self promote!!
err, it does:

The entrance - where the media and 'protestors' are - is in Watford.

It was Watford council that had the finge event applications.

Nearly all the local residents impacted are in Watford.
[quote][p][bold]Retlas[/bold] wrote: The Grove is in Three Rivers District and has naff all to do with Dotty and Watford Borough! Ann Shaw should be the person complaining but seems to be conspicuous by her lack of interest! Any chance she has to self promote!![/p][/quote]err, it does: The entrance - where the media and 'protestors' are - is in Watford. It was Watford council that had the finge event applications. Nearly all the local residents impacted are in Watford. Mike Watford

5:40pm Thu 6 Jun 13

MarsLander says...

Mike Watford wrote:
MarsLander wrote:
Is this idiotic Mayor suggesting the Bilderberg group pay for the policing costs? It seems so. Poor deluded dotty, she's lost the plot once again. The Bilderberg group are not likely to cause problems, it is nutty greens and other misfits and terrorists that the police are needed for. I believe the policing bill should be picked up by the government and not the local taxpayers, but to suggest the Bilderbergs pick up the tab is to fundamentally misunderstand the responsibility of the public bodies and their role. Still, she is a Lib Dem so we shouldn't expect too much from her, should we? “While I realise the conference is funded by a cocktail of contributors, the local constabulary will surely have to pick up a substantial part of the tab, which is all the more galling when the participants in the conference are among the wealthiest people in the world.” - Dotty I find it more galling we have such a stupid bunch of councillors in charge of Watford, the Mayor being the cherry on top of, not the cake, but the custard pie. Clearly Dotty is not a fan or rich and successful people, just like Mark Watkin seems anti-business with his rant at the Grove, both are equally clueless. The know how to levy taxes, spend them and tell people how to live their lives down to the pettiest levels, but they seem to fail to understand how the world actually works and that without business there are no taxes. Dotty, no use going on at Bilderberg. Sit back, have a think and then have another stab at who should pick up the tab for this. You'll get there in the end (with a bit of luck). What a shower!
Oh dear - you always jump in feet first to contribute the opposite to what she says or does.

You say: &quot;Is this Mayor suggesting the Bilderberg group pay for the policing costs?"

err, well the group have now said they will be contributing.

Someone else says: "ultimately it is nothing to do with Dotty and everything to do with the PCC"

err, well it does actually. That is part of the of the remit and wider role of an elected mayor. In any case, each local authority has its leader on the Panel that oversees the PCC role - so where the first line of this report says that 'she is voicing concern about the potential impact the Bilderberg security operation will have on the county’s police budget' - it is totally legitimate.
Nice try but you have not answered the points or principles, merely tried to fog the issues I raised.

LibDem smog, smells just like BS.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Watford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarsLander[/bold] wrote: Is this idiotic Mayor suggesting the Bilderberg group pay for the policing costs? It seems so. Poor deluded dotty, she's lost the plot once again. The Bilderberg group are not likely to cause problems, it is nutty greens and other misfits and terrorists that the police are needed for. I believe the policing bill should be picked up by the government and not the local taxpayers, but to suggest the Bilderbergs pick up the tab is to fundamentally misunderstand the responsibility of the public bodies and their role. Still, she is a Lib Dem so we shouldn't expect too much from her, should we? “While I realise the conference is funded by a cocktail of contributors, the local constabulary will surely have to pick up a substantial part of the tab, which is all the more galling when the participants in the conference are among the wealthiest people in the world.” - Dotty I find it more galling we have such a stupid bunch of councillors in charge of Watford, the Mayor being the cherry on top of, not the cake, but the custard pie. Clearly Dotty is not a fan or rich and successful people, just like Mark Watkin seems anti-business with his rant at the Grove, both are equally clueless. The know how to levy taxes, spend them and tell people how to live their lives down to the pettiest levels, but they seem to fail to understand how the world actually works and that without business there are no taxes. Dotty, no use going on at Bilderberg. Sit back, have a think and then have another stab at who should pick up the tab for this. You'll get there in the end (with a bit of luck). What a shower![/p][/quote]Oh dear - you always jump in feet first to contribute the opposite to what she says or does. You say: "Is this Mayor suggesting the Bilderberg group pay for the policing costs?" err, well the group have now said they will be contributing. Someone else says: "ultimately it is nothing to do with Dotty and everything to do with the PCC" err, well it does actually. That is part of the of the remit and wider role of an elected mayor. In any case, each local authority has its leader on the Panel that oversees the PCC role - so where the first line of this report says that 'she is voicing concern about the potential impact the Bilderberg security operation will have on the county’s police budget' - it is totally legitimate.[/p][/quote]Nice try but you have not answered the points or principles, merely tried to fog the issues I raised. LibDem smog, smells just like BS. MarsLander

10:14am Fri 7 Jun 13

oneoverzero says...

MarsLander wrote:
Is this idiotic Mayor suggesting the Bilderberg group pay for the policing costs? It seems so. Poor deluded dotty, she's lost the plot once again.

The Bilderberg group are not likely to cause problems, it is nutty greens and other misfits and terrorists that the police are needed for.

I believe the policing bill should be picked up by the government and not the local taxpayers, but to suggest the Bilderbergs pick up the tab is to fundamentally misunderstand the responsibility of the public bodies and their role. Still, she is a Lib Dem so we shouldn't expect too much from her, should we?

“While I realise the conference is funded by a cocktail of contributors, the local constabulary will surely have to pick up a substantial part of the tab, which is all the more galling when the participants in the conference are among the wealthiest people in the world.” - Dotty

I find it more galling we have such a stupid bunch of councillors in charge of Watford, the Mayor being the cherry on top of, not the cake, but the custard pie.

Clearly Dotty is not a fan or rich and successful people, just like Mark Watkin seems anti-business with his rant at the Grove, both are equally clueless. The know how to levy taxes, spend them and tell people how to live their lives down to the pettiest levels, but they seem to fail to understand how the world actually works and that without business there are no taxes.

Dotty, no use going on at Bilderberg. Sit back, have a think and then have another stab at who should pick up the tab for this. You'll get there in the end (with a bit of luck).

What a shower!
I think you're missing the point. The Bilderberg Group won't cause problems - they ARE the problem. You're suggesting that a kabbal of the world's Uber rich should expect our 'strapped for cash' Government to pay for the inconvenience they cause. If anyone reading this is wondering what all the fuss is about, then surely this is an example of the autocratic arrogance so frequently displayed by Bilderberg members as they trounce others' right to challenge them?
[quote][p][bold]MarsLander[/bold] wrote: Is this idiotic Mayor suggesting the Bilderberg group pay for the policing costs? It seems so. Poor deluded dotty, she's lost the plot once again. The Bilderberg group are not likely to cause problems, it is nutty greens and other misfits and terrorists that the police are needed for. I believe the policing bill should be picked up by the government and not the local taxpayers, but to suggest the Bilderbergs pick up the tab is to fundamentally misunderstand the responsibility of the public bodies and their role. Still, she is a Lib Dem so we shouldn't expect too much from her, should we? “While I realise the conference is funded by a cocktail of contributors, the local constabulary will surely have to pick up a substantial part of the tab, which is all the more galling when the participants in the conference are among the wealthiest people in the world.” - Dotty I find it more galling we have such a stupid bunch of councillors in charge of Watford, the Mayor being the cherry on top of, not the cake, but the custard pie. Clearly Dotty is not a fan or rich and successful people, just like Mark Watkin seems anti-business with his rant at the Grove, both are equally clueless. The know how to levy taxes, spend them and tell people how to live their lives down to the pettiest levels, but they seem to fail to understand how the world actually works and that without business there are no taxes. Dotty, no use going on at Bilderberg. Sit back, have a think and then have another stab at who should pick up the tab for this. You'll get there in the end (with a bit of luck). What a shower![/p][/quote]I think you're missing the point. The Bilderberg Group won't cause problems - they ARE the problem. You're suggesting that a kabbal of the world's Uber rich should expect our 'strapped for cash' Government to pay for the inconvenience they cause. If anyone reading this is wondering what all the fuss is about, then surely this is an example of the autocratic arrogance so frequently displayed by Bilderberg members as they trounce others' right to challenge them? oneoverzero

10:17am Fri 7 Jun 13

oneoverzero says...

If this whole thing even makes it onto the sports pages, it will be a surprise. Bilderberg have been holding thee meetings for years in near total secrecy. It's only through the efforts of certain brave investigative journalists that we are even aware of their existence.
Talking of cuts - what do you think was responsible for them in the first place?
That's right - the Banking collapse; and who was responsible for that? Right again - Bankers. And which little club do all the international financiers and bankers belong to?.... I'm sorry, I'm really going to have ask you for an answer.
If this whole thing even makes it onto the sports pages, it will be a surprise. Bilderberg have been holding thee meetings for years in near total secrecy. It's only through the efforts of certain brave investigative journalists that we are even aware of their existence. Talking of cuts - what do you think was responsible for them in the first place? That's right - the Banking collapse; and who was responsible for that? Right again - Bankers. And which little club do all the international financiers and bankers belong to?.... I'm sorry, I'm really going to have ask you for an answer. oneoverzero

10:19am Fri 7 Jun 13

oneoverzero says...

Cuetip wrote:
The Bilderberg Agenda really isn’t that secret?

1 How to seize your wealth and feather our own nest eggs.

2 Harmonise EU youth unemployment with Spain and Greece which is at 60%.

Please feel free to submit additional agenda items.
3 Encourage Governments to increase their National Debt to a level that is literally un-repayable, thereby owning all sovereign states.

4 Gather and control sufficient amounts of information to dominate and control the world population to the extent that any sort of dissent impossible.

5 By monitoring every action every person ever makes, they hope to instill an internal censor in every citizen's head, thereby achieving their ultimate goal of thought control.

6 Having achieved all of the above, they can then reduce the world's population to just two groups - serfs and masters.

Have I missed anything?
[quote][p][bold]Cuetip[/bold] wrote: The Bilderberg Agenda really isn’t that secret? 1 How to seize your wealth and feather our own nest eggs. 2 Harmonise EU youth unemployment with Spain and Greece which is at 60%. Please feel free to submit additional agenda items.[/p][/quote]3 Encourage Governments to increase their National Debt to a level that is literally un-repayable, thereby owning all sovereign states. 4 Gather and control sufficient amounts of information to dominate and control the world population to the extent that any sort of dissent impossible. 5 By monitoring every action every person ever makes, they hope to instill an internal censor in every citizen's head, thereby achieving their ultimate goal of thought control. 6 Having achieved all of the above, they can then reduce the world's population to just two groups - serfs and masters. Have I missed anything? oneoverzero

10:22am Fri 7 Jun 13

oneoverzero says...

garston tony wrote:
You anti Bilderbergers are a confused lot.

Some of you say that the world economic crisis is part of a Bilderberg master plan and they are behind the debt and borrowing, then you have another lot who say that the sensible idea of trying to reduce spending and therefore borrowing and therefore debt in order to tackle the problem (ie austerity) is also a Bilderberg plan whilst yet another group actually want the country to spend more more more which is what got us into this position in the first place (and is according to some of you apparently a Bilderberg plan in the first place)!

I would say make up your minds but your lack of coherensy just shows how rubbish all of what you say against this meeting is and is providing us with plenty of laughs (at your expense of course)
Has it occurred to you that possibly "Divide and Rule" might be part of their strategy?
[quote][p][bold]garston tony[/bold] wrote: You anti Bilderbergers are a confused lot. Some of you say that the world economic crisis is part of a Bilderberg master plan and they are behind the debt and borrowing, then you have another lot who say that the sensible idea of trying to reduce spending and therefore borrowing and therefore debt in order to tackle the problem (ie austerity) is also a Bilderberg plan whilst yet another group actually want the country to spend more more more which is what got us into this position in the first place (and is according to some of you apparently a Bilderberg plan in the first place)! I would say make up your minds but your lack of coherensy just shows how rubbish all of what you say against this meeting is and is providing us with plenty of laughs (at your expense of course)[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that possibly "Divide and Rule" might be part of their strategy? oneoverzero

10:32am Fri 7 Jun 13

oneoverzero says...

Roy Stockdill wrote:
&gt;What's it to you if a protester is 'on benefits' or not. Just because you may never had to suffer a trip or two to the Job Centre.&lt;

Many who are on benefits are in that position through their own fault because they are not prepared to take whatever jobs they are offered, which is why all the immigrants are coming here from Eastern Europe to take them instead.
I'm sorry I have to say this but you really are a stupid old fool to make such sweeping generalizations (and that's not a generalization, by the way, it's a specific). Have you any idea of all the different reasons why so many people can't get back into work? Then perhaps you should walk round to the Jobcentre and ask some of them, because that's where you'll find them - not sunning themselves on the Grove lawns.
[quote][p][bold]Roy Stockdill[/bold] wrote: >What's it to you if a protester is 'on benefits' or not. Just because you may never had to suffer a trip or two to the Job Centre.< Many who are on benefits are in that position through their own fault because they are not prepared to take whatever jobs they are offered, which is why all the immigrants are coming here from Eastern Europe to take them instead.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry I have to say this but you really are a stupid old fool to make such sweeping generalizations (and that's not a generalization, by the way, it's a specific). Have you any idea of all the different reasons why so many people can't get back into work? Then perhaps you should walk round to the Jobcentre and ask some of them, because that's where you'll find them - not sunning themselves on the Grove lawns. oneoverzero

11:56am Fri 7 Jun 13

Roy Stockdill says...

I wonder why it is, then, that it is extremely difficult to find any pub in London that has English bar staff? They all seem to be Eastern Europeans or other types of foreigner.
I wonder why it is, then, that it is extremely difficult to find any pub in London that has English bar staff? They all seem to be Eastern Europeans or other types of foreigner. Roy Stockdill

12:26pm Fri 7 Jun 13

overzero says...

Roy, I think ought to explain myself. I last worked over two and a half years ago following a life threatening illness (brought on in part by my working conditions). I am currently doped up to my eyeballs on a stupefying cocktail of medication as I await a further operation. My list skills is equaled only by the list of activities I am either prohibited from, or advised against doing. To add insult to injury, my neighbour's house was let out last year to a Bulgarian family. Whilst making some repairs on my own house I got talking to the father - "This country s**t; is finish, they no more work" were his words, verbatim. I don't know why, but somehow I refrained from replying "Well what the b****y hell are you still doing here then?" On reflection, I didn't have to; I think he saw it in my eyes.

P.S. I wish I could afford to go for the odd drink in a London pub.
Roy, I think ought to explain myself. I last worked over two and a half years ago following a life threatening illness (brought on in part by my working conditions). I am currently doped up to my eyeballs on a stupefying cocktail of medication as I await a further operation. My list skills is equaled only by the list of activities I am either prohibited from, or advised against doing. To add insult to injury, my neighbour's house was let out last year to a Bulgarian family. Whilst making some repairs on my own house I got talking to the father - "This country s**t; is finish, they no more work" were his words, verbatim. I don't know why, but somehow I refrained from replying "Well what the b****y hell are you still doing here then?" On reflection, I didn't have to; I think he saw it in my eyes. P.S. I wish I could afford to go for the odd drink in a London pub. overzero

1:12pm Fri 7 Jun 13

garston tony says...

Oneoverzero, if by problems you're pointing at the security operation then that isnt true.

I'm sure they would rather have no security but it is there because others may view this as an opportunity to do something illegal, be it attempt to disrupt people going about their lawful business or committ a terrorist act at worse. It is because of the potential actions of nutters and extremists that there is a security operation, they are therefore the problem.


As to these meetings they may not have been taking full page ad's in national papers but the Bilderberg group was not set up in secret and its hardly their fault if the media forgot about them. But on that note even a cursory search of the internet brings up reports about this group going back many many years, again not exactly their fault if the conspiracy theorist were a bit slow in picking on this group as their next target.

And as to bankers my answer is to ask you a qestion, why would they engineer a situation which took many many many of them to the brink of collapse, and indeed took some over the edge? They are weaker now than 5, 6 years ago and indeed many bankers have lost control of the banks they control. And whilst due to some insecure banking practises many bankers got rich so did many ordinary people, look at the wealth created in this country by the housing boom for instance. Why would they want to burst that bubble? Austerity isnt winning any favours for politicians or business especially not banks, to claim that this group have engineered that is amazing, but as usual your actual proof is......?

And why would politicians collude in weakening their power if the goal is for banks to 'own' sovereign states? That doesnt hold any water, nation states will and have defaulted on loans meaning banks are further weakened.

Really, such un thought out nonsense
Oneoverzero, if by problems you're pointing at the security operation then that isnt true. I'm sure they would rather have no security but it is there because others may view this as an opportunity to do something illegal, be it attempt to disrupt people going about their lawful business or committ a terrorist act at worse. It is because of the potential actions of nutters and extremists that there is a security operation, they are therefore the problem. As to these meetings they may not have been taking full page ad's in national papers but the Bilderberg group was not set up in secret and its hardly their fault if the media forgot about them. But on that note even a cursory search of the internet brings up reports about this group going back many many years, again not exactly their fault if the conspiracy theorist were a bit slow in picking on this group as their next target. And as to bankers my answer is to ask you a qestion, why would they engineer a situation which took many many many of them to the brink of collapse, and indeed took some over the edge? They are weaker now than 5, 6 years ago and indeed many bankers have lost control of the banks they control. And whilst due to some insecure banking practises many bankers got rich so did many ordinary people, look at the wealth created in this country by the housing boom for instance. Why would they want to burst that bubble? Austerity isnt winning any favours for politicians or business especially not banks, to claim that this group have engineered that is amazing, but as usual your actual proof is......? And why would politicians collude in weakening their power if the goal is for banks to 'own' sovereign states? That doesnt hold any water, nation states will and have defaulted on loans meaning banks are further weakened. Really, such un thought out nonsense garston tony

1:18am Sat 8 Jun 13

LSC says...

Still waiting for an answer.
Still waiting for an answer. LSC

8:02am Sat 8 Jun 13

Roy Stockdill says...

Like Tony, I too have had difficulty in understanding some of the arguments of the Bilderberg protesters. I watched the amusing video on another part of this site of that somewhat frenetic American DJ haranguing a bunch of admittedly stoney-faced and somewhat humourless Hertfordshire coppers and telling them they were all going to lose their pensions! He did not explain why this was going to happen, simply made it as a statement of fact. How is this to be? Where is the evidence?

As Tony also asks, why would banks plot to take over the world when so many of them have already had to be bailed out by the taxpayer? Remember Northern Rock and Lloyds? As it happens, I was delighted to receive this week a cheque for a tidy sum, the proceeds of some unit trust holdings I'd had for years and virtually forgotten about apart from receiving six-monthly statements. In the time I've had them the stock market has gone up and down like a proverbial yo-yo, so what did I do? Like most sensible people, I kept an eye on the Footsie 100 and noticed recently that it was climbing towards 7,000, so I decided to cash my units in and I am happy to say that in the time I've owned them the units have virtually doubled in value (and because they were bought with an ISA I won't have to pay tax). We are not all as stupid as some of the protesters seem to think and we are not all slaves to our bank! Yes, more or less the moment the cheque went in a girl was on the phone offering me other "opportunities for investment". However, I took that to be the understandable action of a single bank employee who simply wanted to earn herself a bit of commission because that is what banks are there for now - to sell you things. But I didn't see her phone call as being part of some conspiracy to take over the world! At the end of the day, it will be my decision and not the bank's as to what I do with the money. I might just decide to spend it.

Moreover, as Tony says, the housing boom over the last few decades has made a great many people well-off, at least property-wise. Even if the housing market crashed by 50 per cent tomorrow, I would still have increased my initial investment in my house by many hundreds of per cent. I suspect many of the Bilderberg protesters could say the same, so what are they whining about?
Like Tony, I too have had difficulty in understanding some of the arguments of the Bilderberg protesters. I watched the amusing video on another part of this site of that somewhat frenetic American DJ haranguing a bunch of admittedly stoney-faced and somewhat humourless Hertfordshire coppers and telling them they were all going to lose their pensions! He did not explain why this was going to happen, simply made it as a statement of fact. How is this to be? Where is the evidence? As Tony also asks, why would banks plot to take over the world when so many of them have already had to be bailed out by the taxpayer? Remember Northern Rock and Lloyds? As it happens, I was delighted to receive this week a cheque for a tidy sum, the proceeds of some unit trust holdings I'd had for years and virtually forgotten about apart from receiving six-monthly statements. In the time I've had them the stock market has gone up and down like a proverbial yo-yo, so what did I do? Like most sensible people, I kept an eye on the Footsie 100 and noticed recently that it was climbing towards 7,000, so I decided to cash my units in and I am happy to say that in the time I've owned them the units have virtually doubled in value (and because they were bought with an ISA I won't have to pay tax). We are not all as stupid as some of the protesters seem to think and we are not all slaves to our bank! Yes, more or less the moment the cheque went in a girl was on the phone offering me other "opportunities for investment". However, I took that to be the understandable action of a single bank employee who simply wanted to earn herself a bit of commission because that is what banks are there for now - to sell you things. But I didn't see her phone call as being part of some conspiracy to take over the world! At the end of the day, it will be my decision and not the bank's as to what I do with the money. I might just decide to spend it. Moreover, as Tony says, the housing boom over the last few decades has made a great many people well-off, at least property-wise. Even if the housing market crashed by 50 per cent tomorrow, I would still have increased my initial investment in my house by many hundreds of per cent. I suspect many of the Bilderberg protesters could say the same, so what are they whining about? Roy Stockdill

9:35am Sat 8 Jun 13

Alfie Nokes says...

If you'd like an answer as to why 'burn the banks and bail them' I would refer you to Max Keiser's thirteen minute interview with Patrick Henningsen last year, when the Bilderberg met in Chantilly, Virginia.

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=oVZ9QF2vJ
Ss

it is on Alex Jones' Channel, but don't let that put you off, AJ isn't in it (Alex has some good questions, I just can't stand his voice and personality...)
If you'd like an answer as to why 'burn the banks and bail them' I would refer you to Max Keiser's thirteen minute interview with Patrick Henningsen last year, when the Bilderberg met in Chantilly, Virginia. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=oVZ9QF2vJ Ss it is on Alex Jones' Channel, but don't let that put you off, AJ isn't in it (Alex has some good questions, I just can't stand his voice and personality...) Alfie Nokes

12:14pm Sat 8 Jun 13

overzero says...

bilderbergsucks wrote:
Kaka-bad , talking as his name would suggest.
He mentions one world government, and how it's all going to plan, in the same breath he acknowledges that the poor are getting poorer while the rich are doing the opposite.

Interesting if you like hearing from a gatekeeper apologist for tyranny, greed and power..


Bilderberg 2013: Andrew Kakabadse on How Elite Power Shapes the World
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THESE VIDEO LINKS - THE REFERENCE TO NAZI GERMANY IS PARTICULARLY RELEVANT AND POIGNANT! TO EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS POST - WAKE UP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. I'M GOING THIS AFTERNOON FOR THE MAIN EVENT; THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY TO BE PRESENT AT THE GENESIS OF A CHANGE IN HISTORY!
[quote][p][bold]bilderbergsucks[/bold] wrote: Kaka-bad , talking as his name would suggest. He mentions one world government, and how it's all going to plan, in the same breath he acknowledges that the poor are getting poorer while the rich are doing the opposite. Interesting if you like hearing from a gatekeeper apologist for tyranny, greed and power.. Bilderberg 2013: Andrew Kakabadse on How Elite Power Shapes the World Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:11 http://beforeitsnews .com/alternative/201 3/06/bilderberg-2013 -andrew-kakabadse-on -how-elite-power-sha pes-the-world-267293 2.html[/p][/quote]THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THESE VIDEO LINKS - THE REFERENCE TO NAZI GERMANY IS PARTICULARLY RELEVANT AND POIGNANT! TO EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS POST - WAKE UP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. I'M GOING THIS AFTERNOON FOR THE MAIN EVENT; THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY TO BE PRESENT AT THE GENESIS OF A CHANGE IN HISTORY! overzero

12:24pm Sat 8 Jun 13

overzero says...

OK, I'll make it simple. Banks are recovering far quicker from the crash, than any National economies - any ideas why? Now, think this one out clearly before you reply.
OK, I'll make it simple. Banks are recovering far quicker from the crash, than any National economies - any ideas why? Now, think this one out clearly before you reply. overzero

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