Names in the frame for new Croxley Rail Link stations in Watford

Names in the frame for new rail link stations

Names in the frame for new rail link stations

First published in News Watford Observer: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Reporter

Politicians and transport bosses are currently discussing what names to give the two new Metropolitan Line stations due to be built in West Watford as part of the Croxley Rail Link.

London Underground is in negotiations with Watford Borough and Three Rivers District councils over what to call the stations planned for Ascot Road and Vicarage Road.

Watford’s elected mayor, Dorothy Thornhill, said the Vicarage Road station was most likely to be called "Vicarage Road" as it was a recognisable name outside of the town.

However, transport bosses had expressed displeasure about Ascot Road being eponymously named due to their already being an Ascot station in Berkshire.

The name currently under consideration for that station is Cassio Bridge, due to the station’s proximity to the bridge over the Grand Union Canal.

Watford Observer:

Mayor Thornhill said: "We have been looking at the station names.

"We thought ‘Vicarage Road’, as everyone knows that.

"Other options were the hospital’s name (Watford General) or West Watford.

"Ascot Road at the moment we are struggling with.

"The transport people don’t want us to use Ascot Road because of Ascot [in Berkshire].

"We are suggesting Cassio Bridge Station because of the connection with the canal."

Preliminary work on the £118m project to extend the Metropolitan Line into Watford began this week with ecological surveys being carried out.

The new line, which is expected to be operational by 2016, will run from Croxley station through the two new stations in Ascot Road and Vicarage Road, before heading through Watford High Street Station and terminating at Watford Junction.

Construction of the new link, which will include building a new viaduct over the A412 and Grand Union Canal, will begin in 2014 subject to ministerial approval.

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2:29pm Fri 7 Jun 13

Tom Conniffe says...

Quite by coincidence I wrote earlier this week to Mayor Thornhill, various Hertfordshire CC councillors and TfL on this very subject. There are five Ascot Roads in Greater London, from East Ham to Tooting, and such a bland, generic name would add nothing to the character of the local area. When I was growing up locally thirty-odd years ago, the area was still known as Cassiobridge, and this is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to renew the name's historical association with the locality.
Quite by coincidence I wrote earlier this week to Mayor Thornhill, various Hertfordshire CC councillors and TfL on this very subject. There are five Ascot Roads in Greater London, from East Ham to Tooting, and such a bland, generic name would add nothing to the character of the local area. When I was growing up locally thirty-odd years ago, the area was still known as Cassiobridge, and this is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to renew the name's historical association with the locality. Tom Conniffe
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2:37pm Fri 7 Jun 13

The Rover says...

Cassio Bridge and Vicarage Road
Cassio Bridge and Vicarage Road The Rover
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3:08pm Fri 7 Jun 13

shalvey says...

The Rover wrote:
Cassio Bridge and Vicarage Road
Here Here!
[quote][p][bold]The Rover[/bold] wrote: Cassio Bridge and Vicarage Road[/p][/quote]Here Here! shalvey
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3:26pm Fri 7 Jun 13

mr_jrt says...

Personally, I'd have preferred two stations instead of Vicarage Road - West Watford reopening to serve Tolpits Lane, and a new Watford Hospital/Stadium station near Cardiff Road to serve the hospital and stadium on the southern side of the redevelopment (and taking advantage of the link road that is now going to be built).

Additionally, if they ever decide to rebuild the southern curve to Bushey station to run trains direct from Bushey to Rickmanswoth then Cardiff Road would be the perfect interchange.

Ho hum.
Personally, I'd have preferred two stations instead of Vicarage Road - West Watford reopening to serve Tolpits Lane, and a new Watford Hospital/Stadium station near Cardiff Road to serve the hospital and stadium on the southern side of the redevelopment (and taking advantage of the link road that is now going to be built). Additionally, if they ever decide to rebuild the southern curve to Bushey station to run trains direct from Bushey to Rickmanswoth then Cardiff Road would be the perfect interchange. Ho hum. mr_jrt
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4:15pm Fri 7 Jun 13

Andrew1963 says...

The southern curve was used for Croxley Green Broad Street trains. There were even Bushey starters to Broad Street.With the electrification of the mainline,much of the DC traffic declined. I don't believe there would be much value reinstating the triangle 50 years after its public service demise. The station names are ok- but there are 23 Vicarage Roads in the Greater London A-Z - How about another local name - Caractacus after the Derby winning horse that lived across the road fromthe new sation or Harwoods (after the farm) - I am sure others can come up with other suggestions.
The southern curve was used for Croxley Green Broad Street trains. There were even Bushey starters to Broad Street.With the electrification of the mainline,much of the DC traffic declined. I don't believe there would be much value reinstating the triangle 50 years after its public service demise. The station names are ok- but there are 23 Vicarage Roads in the Greater London A-Z - How about another local name - Caractacus after the Derby winning horse that lived across the road fromthe new sation or Harwoods (after the farm) - I am sure others can come up with other suggestions. Andrew1963
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4:30pm Fri 7 Jun 13

mr_jrt says...

@Andrew1963

My thinking for it is more to do with the bottleneck the CRL creates between Watford High Street and Watford Junction. Funnelling both lines into a single section will limit the service that can be provided on both. Reinstating the curve means additional services could operate on the DC lines from somewhere useful like Rickmansworth without having to start from Bushey.
@Andrew1963 My thinking for it is more to do with the bottleneck the CRL creates between Watford High Street and Watford Junction. Funnelling both lines into a single section will limit the service that can be provided on both. Reinstating the curve means additional services could operate on the DC lines from somewhere useful like Rickmansworth without having to start from Bushey. mr_jrt
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8:22pm Fri 7 Jun 13

Nascot says...

The Rover wrote:
Cassio Bridge and Vicarage Road
Gets my vote, will probably be used anyway by the locals as it is very relevant to the area concerned . How about a local consultation?
[quote][p][bold]The Rover[/bold] wrote: Cassio Bridge and Vicarage Road[/p][/quote]Gets my vote, will probably be used anyway by the locals as it is very relevant to the area concerned . How about a local consultation? Nascot
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10:02pm Fri 7 Jun 13

PedroHornet says...

Absolutely definitely 'Vicarage Road' and 'Croxley North'. Who, outside the Watford area, will have heard of Cassiobridge?
Absolutely definitely 'Vicarage Road' and 'Croxley North'. Who, outside the Watford area, will have heard of Cassiobridge? PedroHornet
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10:18pm Fri 7 Jun 13

Xerces Fobe says...

Not a difficult one Croxley Green and Watford West why not?

Or Croxley West & Wiggenhall Road

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Xerces Fobe
Not a difficult one Croxley Green and Watford West why not? Or Croxley West & Wiggenhall Road http://www.rmweb.co. uk/community/index.p hp?/gallery/album/10 03-somewhere-near-wa tford/ Xerces Fobe Xerces Fobe
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11:52pm Fri 7 Jun 13

Andrew1963 says...

mr_jrt wrote:
@Andrew1963

My thinking for it is more to do with the bottleneck the CRL creates between Watford High Street and Watford Junction. Funnelling both lines into a single section will limit the service that can be provided on both. Reinstating the curve means additional services could operate on the DC lines from somewhere useful like Rickmansworth without having to start from Bushey.
Doubt it as the signalling will be improved. Remember until 1985 there were 3 trains to euston, 2 to Broad street 3 bakerloos an 2 croxley branch trains between 07 and 08.00 am. just 3 an hour now. Biggest problem is actually storing stock in the bay platforms at Watford junction, hence the plan to retain Watford met as a carriage sitting. That implies plenty of headroom to move stock between Watford junction over they new link. London overground and met will only come together between Watford high street and Watford junction. One issue no one is talking about is ticket prices. Met line oyster and cash fares between moor park and Watford will go up
[quote][p][bold]mr_jrt[/bold] wrote: @Andrew1963 My thinking for it is more to do with the bottleneck the CRL creates between Watford High Street and Watford Junction. Funnelling both lines into a single section will limit the service that can be provided on both. Reinstating the curve means additional services could operate on the DC lines from somewhere useful like Rickmansworth without having to start from Bushey.[/p][/quote]Doubt it as the signalling will be improved. Remember until 1985 there were 3 trains to euston, 2 to Broad street 3 bakerloos an 2 croxley branch trains between 07 and 08.00 am. just 3 an hour now. Biggest problem is actually storing stock in the bay platforms at Watford junction, hence the plan to retain Watford met as a carriage sitting. That implies plenty of headroom to move stock between Watford junction over they new link. London overground and met will only come together between Watford high street and Watford junction. One issue no one is talking about is ticket prices. Met line oyster and cash fares between moor park and Watford will go up Andrew1963
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1:44am Sat 8 Jun 13

LSC says...

I'd call them 'Purple Flag' and 'A&E'.

Makes it easier for the night time crowd.
I'd call them 'Purple Flag' and 'A&E'. Makes it easier for the night time crowd. LSC
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10:41am Sat 8 Jun 13

WatfordAlex says...

LSC wrote:
I'd call them 'Purple Flag' and 'A&E'.

Makes it easier for the night time crowd.
I know you're just being sarky, but even so: the Ascot Road station isn't anywhere near the town centre (which is where the purple flag is)!

I vote for 'Cassio Bridge' and 'Watford West'. Neither station is in Croxley, so derivations of that name wouldn't make sense.
[quote][p][bold]LSC[/bold] wrote: I'd call them 'Purple Flag' and 'A&E'. Makes it easier for the night time crowd.[/p][/quote]I know you're just being sarky, but even so: the Ascot Road station isn't anywhere near the town centre (which is where the purple flag is)! I vote for 'Cassio Bridge' and 'Watford West'. Neither station is in Croxley, so derivations of that name wouldn't make sense. WatfordAlex
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2:22am Sun 9 Jun 13

Honest Rog says...

I know I should be up to date with this project but spending much time here in S.E.Asia distributing funds and provisions to the needy I've lost sight of it. My question is: Will Watford West Station be re-vamped?
Cassiobridge and Vicarage Road are fine by me.
I know I should be up to date with this project but spending much time here in S.E.Asia distributing funds and provisions to the needy I've lost sight of it. My question is: Will Watford West Station be re-vamped? Cassiobridge and Vicarage Road are fine by me. Honest Rog
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11:54am Sun 9 Jun 13

mr_jrt says...

@Reg

No, despite it being in a much better location (serving Tolpits Lane and the densely-built-up area around it) than the old Watford Stadium station (serving one end of Vicaridge Road and playing fields), the plan is to use the Watford West site for an electrical substation and build the new station on the site of the old Watford Stadium station.

...this is why I propose the new station being located on the southern side of the new health campus - it'll be the same distance from the football stadium and hospital, but will enable much better coverage for west Watford from 3 stations rather than 2.

So you'd end up with Cassiobridge, Watford West and Watford South/Hospital/Stadi
um stations.
@Reg No, despite it being in a much better location (serving Tolpits Lane and the densely-built-up area around it) than the old Watford Stadium station (serving one end of Vicaridge Road and playing fields), the plan is to use the Watford West site for an electrical substation and build the new station on the site of the old Watford Stadium station. ...this is why I propose the new station being located on the southern side of the new health campus - it'll be the same distance from the football stadium and hospital, but will enable much better coverage for west Watford from 3 stations rather than 2. So you'd end up with Cassiobridge, Watford West and Watford South/Hospital/Stadi um stations. mr_jrt
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5:25pm Sun 9 Jun 13

jackm91 says...

Surprised they are not called "Vicarage Road" and "Dorothy Thornhill"!
Surprised they are not called "Vicarage Road" and "Dorothy Thornhill"! jackm91
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4:29pm Mon 10 Jun 13

dontyouworry says...

open up all the stations

Watford Clock Tower

Watford West

Vicaridge Road

Watford South
open up all the stations Watford Clock Tower Watford West Vicaridge Road Watford South dontyouworry
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9:20pm Mon 24 Jun 13

Bloodwags says...

Ehem, before we get too busy naming stations and turning Watford Met into a shunting yard, what has happened to the business case for CRL which is still awaiting approval. Also, so far as I'm aware, the Mayor of London has, thank goodness, not yet approved the closure of Watford Met.
Ehem, before we get too busy naming stations and turning Watford Met into a shunting yard, what has happened to the business case for CRL which is still awaiting approval. Also, so far as I'm aware, the Mayor of London has, thank goodness, not yet approved the closure of Watford Met. Bloodwags
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1:14am Tue 25 Jun 13

mr_jrt says...

Give him time. It's a pretty easy decision to make.
Give him time. It's a pretty easy decision to make. mr_jrt
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