Hertfordshire's police and crime commissioner David Lloyd: 'privatisation might turn out to be cheaper'

Watford Observer: Police commissioner: 'privatisation might turn out to be cheaper' Police commissioner: 'privatisation might turn out to be cheaper'

Hertfordshire’s police and crime commissioner has not ruled out privatising some of the county’s services in the future.

David Lloyd considered using security firm G4S to take on some of the force's back-office roles such as human resources, finance, ICT, procurement and corporate communications back in 2012.

The outsourcing scheme was heavily criticised after G4S failed to provide enough security staff for the London Olympics.

Last month, police commissioners and constables from Hertfordshire, Cambridgeshire and Bedfordshire signed a deal that would pave the way for police services to be shared across the three counties.

Among the departments the forces are looking to share are finance, fleet, estates and facilities, legal services, human resources, professional standards, training, ICT, firearms licensing, custody and crime recording.

Mr Lloyd said: "We’ve been looking at all sorts of areas - HR, ICT, legal, call centres - and we’re looking at all of those things just to see if we can be more efficient because it might turn out to be cheaper to do these things across all three counties."

Many of these services were the same as those Mr Lloyd was considering putting out to tender to G4S.

Yet the county’s crime commissioner has not dismissed outsourcing some of Hertfordshire Constabulary’s back-office jobs in the future.

Mr Lloyd added: "As for other services, now, whether or not we then decide that the best way of providing efficiency is by putting them out to market or we decide we can run them more efficiently in-house, I’m not a dogmatic politician.

"I’m not saying that everything has got to be privatised, that’s not what it’s about. It’s about finding what’s most efficient.

"I want to make sure that the taxpayers’ pound is well spent and if that’s in-house then that’s fine, as long as that the best way we can do it, but I always want to check what it would cost doing it outside because, if it would cost half as much outside, and give us exactly the same service, then that means I can use the money to ensure the people of Hertfordshire are even safer."

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1:36pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Hornets number 12 fan says...

Yeah give it to a company who couldn't organise a P up in a brewery! good move captain!
Yeah give it to a company who couldn't organise a P up in a brewery! good move captain! Hornets number 12 fan

2:38pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Harry Caine says...

G4S?

The outfit that ripped us off for millions with their tagging scam?

Do these Tories ever learn from past mistakes?
G4S? The outfit that ripped us off for millions with their tagging scam? Do these Tories ever learn from past mistakes? Harry Caine

4:54pm Wed 15 Jan 14

amershamhornet says...

The police should be able to seek out best value themselves as they know what is needed and how to spend their available money.

A substantial amount of money would be saved by not having a crime commissioner and their staff.

Yes no doubt you will save money by putting work out to tender. However you will not get the same service and it will cost more money to put it right again.

The crime commissioner system remains a government QUANGO that is not necessary
The police should be able to seek out best value themselves as they know what is needed and how to spend their available money. A substantial amount of money would be saved by not having a crime commissioner and their staff. Yes no doubt you will save money by putting work out to tender. However you will not get the same service and it will cost more money to put it right again. The crime commissioner system remains a government QUANGO that is not necessary amershamhornet

5:03pm Wed 15 Jan 14

dented says...

I'd be questioning whether he has shares in whatever private company he may be considering.
I'd be questioning whether he has shares in whatever private company he may be considering. dented

5:27pm Wed 15 Jan 14

the_mofo says...

I'm seriously getting fed up of the things this gentleman is saying.
So far his track record has been less than stellar. He has shown a propensity for shady resourcing when it comes to his own team members. Lest we not forget that almost everybody hired in his colse team were known to him prior to being appointed, from the same village, golf club etc.
The money he spends, on private limousines, extra cars etc has been called into question repeatedly.

Also, privatisation has proved to be sketchy to disaterous in the past, let along G4S's personal record of gaffs and muck-ups in the past.

Outsourcing within existing corporations has always gone badly creating friction within workplaces, uneven pay schemes, pension plans etc. Mutlitude of unions being used at cross purposes.

But I personally blame myself for ot voting.
I refused to vote on a position which was ridiculous, and then we ended up with a bufoon.
The stats say that a majority of us didn't vote at all.
Next time we go to the polls and ensure we get the best of the bad lot.
I'm seriously getting fed up of the things this gentleman is saying. So far his track record has been less than stellar. He has shown a propensity for shady resourcing when it comes to his own team members. Lest we not forget that almost everybody hired in his colse team were known to him prior to being appointed, from the same village, golf club etc. The money he spends, on private limousines, extra cars etc has been called into question repeatedly. Also, privatisation has proved to be sketchy to disaterous in the past, let along G4S's personal record of gaffs and muck-ups in the past. Outsourcing within existing corporations has always gone badly creating friction within workplaces, uneven pay schemes, pension plans etc. Mutlitude of unions being used at cross purposes. But I personally blame myself for ot voting. I refused to vote on a position which was ridiculous, and then we ended up with a bufoon. The stats say that a majority of us didn't vote at all. Next time we go to the polls and ensure we get the best of the bad lot. the_mofo

10:20pm Wed 15 Jan 14

dontknowynot says...

This is the real issue of 2015 THIS GOV Tory and Libdem privatizing everything on ideological grounds that is the police NHS schools the lot.

But fear not you have a choice you can vote for UKIP and get this same gov back in and a pointless referendum on the EU

Vote UKIP you know it makes nonsense!!!
This is the real issue of 2015 THIS GOV Tory and Libdem privatizing everything on ideological grounds that is the police NHS schools the lot. But fear not you have a choice you can vote for UKIP and get this same gov back in and a pointless referendum on the EU Vote UKIP you know it makes nonsense!!! dontknowynot

11:33pm Wed 15 Jan 14

LSC says...

This is of course predictable and ridiculous. There is an easy solution.
We are told we will have to work until we are 70+ these days because of the pension defecit. And yet they pension off lower rank police officers at what, 50?
Put THEM in the backroom staff.
Another 20 years out of people with 30 years experience in the job makes obvious sense, even if it means a desk rather than the beat, although not many would notice the difference these days.

The people have spoken, and we live in a democracy. I DARE them to add a 'none of the above' box at the next election for this post, and watch the turnout treble.
This is of course predictable and ridiculous. There is an easy solution. We are told we will have to work until we are 70+ these days because of the pension defecit. And yet they pension off lower rank police officers at what, 50? Put THEM in the backroom staff. Another 20 years out of people with 30 years experience in the job makes obvious sense, even if it means a desk rather than the beat, although not many would notice the difference these days. The people have spoken, and we live in a democracy. I DARE them to add a 'none of the above' box at the next election for this post, and watch the turnout treble. LSC

11:50pm Wed 15 Jan 14

croxley46 says...

HE's the one who should be privatised - i.e. remove his 'privates', then he wouldn't be smiling/smarming in his photos!
HE's the one who should be privatised - i.e. remove his 'privates', then he wouldn't be smiling/smarming in his photos! croxley46

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