New school buildings blessed by bishop

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An auxiliary bishop of the Archdiocese of Westminster, the Rt Rev John Sherrington, cut a ribbon to open the new St Francis wing at St Anthony’s RC School in Croxley View, Watford, yesterday morning. Beforehand, he took morning mass for the whole school and afterwards he met with and spoke individually to children and staff before dining with them.

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5:41pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Popeonarope says...

Religion is like having a classroom where the students have to show up every day but there is no teacher.
There are bunch of books around and no-one is sure which book is the text book
Some students insist on one book, some insist on another.
Then suddenly, on the last day, the teacher appears and says hes been watching everybody the whole time.
He praises the the ones who chose the right text book and sends them off to have milk and cookies.
And then he sets everyone else on fire.

Education without harm.
Religion is like having a classroom where the students have to show up every day but there is no teacher. There are bunch of books around and no-one is sure which book is the text book Some students insist on one book, some insist on another. Then suddenly, on the last day, the teacher appears and says hes been watching everybody the whole time. He praises the the ones who chose the right text book and sends them off to have milk and cookies. And then he sets everyone else on fire. Education without harm. Popeonarope

5:40pm Sat 18 Jan 14

LSC says...

Next week the Tooth Fairy will visit, and Santa is booked for July. Superman is booked all this year, but Wonder Woman might have a window late on.
Next week the Tooth Fairy will visit, and Santa is booked for July. Superman is booked all this year, but Wonder Woman might have a window late on. LSC

11:47pm Sat 18 Jan 14

LSC says...

Two stories currently on the BBC:
"Nun who gave birth in Italy 'unaware of pregnancy'"
"UKIP councillor blames storms and floods on gay marriage: David Silvester said the Prime Minister had acted "arrogantly against the Gospel"."

How embarrassing for the loonies and hypocrites.
Two stories currently on the BBC: "Nun who gave birth in Italy 'unaware of pregnancy'" "UKIP councillor blames storms and floods on gay marriage: David Silvester said the Prime Minister had acted "arrogantly against the Gospel"." How embarrassing for the loonies and hypocrites. LSC

11:51am Mon 20 Jan 14

garston tony says...

Its a real shame that people have such a incorrect view of religion. I know why it happens because the focus is on the extremes that often give it a bad name and not on the vast majority who are ordinary decent people.

LSC being a Christian does not make you a loonie or a hypocrite thank you, but you and far too many others seem to have this belief that because we believe in God that we are meant to be 'perfect'. If you knew anything about it you would know that we are all sinners, all prone to mistakes and our faith does not stop that from being the case. That is made quite clear in the Bible.

Whilst the Bible gives us a guide on how to live our lives that does not mean that as normal human beings we are able to do so. As with anything how people live their lives is influenced by their upbringing, their life experiences, their circumstance etc. What being a Christian means is that when I do make a mistake, when I fail, if I am genuinly sorry of that I can ask for forgiveness, it does not mean that I wont make mistakes and it does not mean that I dont have to live with the consequences of those mistakes on this earth either.

I do wonder at the obsession shown over religion by people who say they dont believe in it. The fact you cant let people get on with their faith without having to snipe at them at every opportunity doesnt reflect well on you at all. This was a simple story about a building being blessed and you two just had to make irrelevant comments to promote your own ignorant view points.
Its a real shame that people have such a incorrect view of religion. I know why it happens because the focus is on the extremes that often give it a bad name and not on the vast majority who are ordinary decent people. LSC being a Christian does not make you a loonie or a hypocrite thank you, but you and far too many others seem to have this belief that because we believe in God that we are meant to be 'perfect'. If you knew anything about it you would know that we are all sinners, all prone to mistakes and our faith does not stop that from being the case. That is made quite clear in the Bible. Whilst the Bible gives us a guide on how to live our lives that does not mean that as normal human beings we are able to do so. As with anything how people live their lives is influenced by their upbringing, their life experiences, their circumstance etc. What being a Christian means is that when I do make a mistake, when I fail, if I am genuinly sorry of that I can ask for forgiveness, it does not mean that I wont make mistakes and it does not mean that I dont have to live with the consequences of those mistakes on this earth either. I do wonder at the obsession shown over religion by people who say they dont believe in it. The fact you cant let people get on with their faith without having to snipe at them at every opportunity doesnt reflect well on you at all. This was a simple story about a building being blessed and you two just had to make irrelevant comments to promote your own ignorant view points. garston tony

1:57pm Mon 20 Jan 14

LSC says...

A nun getting pregnant is hardly a 'mistake', is it? Having sexual contact goes against everything that her entire lifestyle represents. I can't imagine being committed enough to become a nun and all it entails (ok a monk in my case), but to then break the most basic and obvious rule?
I read somewhere there are something like 400 current outstanding cases of child molestation by priests. That is just ones we know about and doesn't include the ones prosecuted. That is appalling.
Now I agree, in the general population the proportion is probably about the same, but the general population don't claim to be pious.

I have never called you specifically a loony or hypocrite Tony; from what you have written I can see you have taken your own path and arrived at your own destiny. That's fine by me, and I wish you well.
But I will always object to people who nave yet to chose a path for themselves being unduly influenced by what I consider superstition and nonsense, like the drivel spouted by the UKIP councillor about gay marriage causing floods.
Children should be protected against such drivel, and that includes Bishops blessing buildings in front of them.
What does blessing a building even mean? That it won't get rising damp?
That god will protect it from lightning? As we have recently heard, the statue of jesus got hit by lightning again in Brazil, and I bet that has been blessed a few times.
So what is the point except for a show for the children designed to intimidate and make them feel they are part of some special club?
A nun getting pregnant is hardly a 'mistake', is it? Having sexual contact goes against everything that her entire lifestyle represents. I can't imagine being committed enough to become a nun and all it entails (ok a monk in my case), but to then break the most basic and obvious rule? I read somewhere there are something like 400 current outstanding cases of child molestation by priests. That is just ones we know about and doesn't include the ones prosecuted. That is appalling. Now I agree, in the general population the proportion is probably about the same, but the general population don't claim to be pious. I have never called you specifically a loony or hypocrite Tony; from what you have written I can see you have taken your own path and arrived at your own destiny. That's fine by me, and I wish you well. But I will always object to people who nave yet to chose a path for themselves being unduly influenced by what I consider superstition and nonsense, like the drivel spouted by the UKIP councillor about gay marriage causing floods. Children should be protected against such drivel, and that includes Bishops blessing buildings in front of them. What does blessing a building even mean? That it won't get rising damp? That god will protect it from lightning? As we have recently heard, the statue of jesus got hit by lightning again in Brazil, and I bet that has been blessed a few times. So what is the point except for a show for the children designed to intimidate and make them feel they are part of some special club? LSC

6:53pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Popeonarope says...

garston tony wrote:
Its a real shame that people have such a incorrect view of religion. I know why it happens because the focus is on the extremes that often give it a bad name and not on the vast majority who are ordinary decent people.

LSC being a Christian does not make you a loonie or a hypocrite thank you, but you and far too many others seem to have this belief that because we believe in God that we are meant to be 'perfect'. If you knew anything about it you would know that we are all sinners, all prone to mistakes and our faith does not stop that from being the case. That is made quite clear in the Bible.

Whilst the Bible gives us a guide on how to live our lives that does not mean that as normal human beings we are able to do so. As with anything how people live their lives is influenced by their upbringing, their life experiences, their circumstance etc. What being a Christian means is that when I do make a mistake, when I fail, if I am genuinly sorry of that I can ask for forgiveness, it does not mean that I wont make mistakes and it does not mean that I dont have to live with the consequences of those mistakes on this earth either.

I do wonder at the obsession shown over religion by people who say they dont believe in it. The fact you cant let people get on with their faith without having to snipe at them at every opportunity doesnt reflect well on you at all. This was a simple story about a building being blessed and you two just had to make irrelevant comments to promote your own ignorant view points.
President George W Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq and thus absolved himself of any responsibility in the eyes of millions of fellow worshipers. This dangerous and illogical decision cost millions of lives and led to a legacy of retaliation that will be felt in years to come by the enemies of allah.

I fully appreciate that the vast majority of people who believe in sky fairies are good if misguided people, but honesty, compassion and charity are not the province only of the theists.
Living a good and noble life is perfectly possible as an atheist, specifically as my connection to my fellow human race is unhindered by the bigoted, racist and irrelevant teachings of a book that condones genocide, rape and enslavement.

If i make a mistake i learn from it and move on. I accept it was my mistake and i deal with any consequences as a rational adult. The idea of having to grovel and ask forgiveness for it quite honestly disgusts me.

I will happily leave the faithful alone when their beliefs and actions from those beliefs stop impacting on my life in any way. When we debate / lobby on a level playing field without the subsidized and legally enforced god-botherers using their connection to an imaginary friend as a shield for their decisions or logic that comes from the dark ages, i will let bygones be bygones, but not before.

The bishop was indoctrinating those involved in his brand of cultism. The catholic church et al continue to brand their ideology on the young and vulnerable and as such are fair game as far as i am concerned.
The new pope seems to be a decent chap but i cant help wondering at this sudden popularity as a result of a christian doing what a christian is supposed to to do.
[quote][p][bold]garston tony[/bold] wrote: Its a real shame that people have such a incorrect view of religion. I know why it happens because the focus is on the extremes that often give it a bad name and not on the vast majority who are ordinary decent people. LSC being a Christian does not make you a loonie or a hypocrite thank you, but you and far too many others seem to have this belief that because we believe in God that we are meant to be 'perfect'. If you knew anything about it you would know that we are all sinners, all prone to mistakes and our faith does not stop that from being the case. That is made quite clear in the Bible. Whilst the Bible gives us a guide on how to live our lives that does not mean that as normal human beings we are able to do so. As with anything how people live their lives is influenced by their upbringing, their life experiences, their circumstance etc. What being a Christian means is that when I do make a mistake, when I fail, if I am genuinly sorry of that I can ask for forgiveness, it does not mean that I wont make mistakes and it does not mean that I dont have to live with the consequences of those mistakes on this earth either. I do wonder at the obsession shown over religion by people who say they dont believe in it. The fact you cant let people get on with their faith without having to snipe at them at every opportunity doesnt reflect well on you at all. This was a simple story about a building being blessed and you two just had to make irrelevant comments to promote your own ignorant view points.[/p][/quote]President George W Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq and thus absolved himself of any responsibility in the eyes of millions of fellow worshipers. This dangerous and illogical decision cost millions of lives and led to a legacy of retaliation that will be felt in years to come by the enemies of allah. I fully appreciate that the vast majority of people who believe in sky fairies are good if misguided people, but honesty, compassion and charity are not the province only of the theists. Living a good and noble life is perfectly possible as an atheist, specifically as my connection to my fellow human race is unhindered by the bigoted, racist and irrelevant teachings of a book that condones genocide, rape and enslavement. If i make a mistake i learn from it and move on. I accept it was my mistake and i deal with any consequences as a rational adult. The idea of having to grovel and ask forgiveness for it quite honestly disgusts me. I will happily leave the faithful alone when their beliefs and actions from those beliefs stop impacting on my life in any way. When we debate / lobby on a level playing field without the subsidized and legally enforced god-botherers using their connection to an imaginary friend as a shield for their decisions or logic that comes from the dark ages, i will let bygones be bygones, but not before. The bishop was indoctrinating those involved in his brand of cultism. The catholic church et al continue to brand their ideology on the young and vulnerable and as such are fair game as far as i am concerned. The new pope seems to be a decent chap but i cant help wondering at this sudden popularity as a result of a christian doing what a christian is supposed to to do. Popeonarope

11:51pm Mon 20 Jan 14

LSC says...

Popeonarope: I agree with just about everything you say, except for the very last bit.
The new pope does indeed talk the talk and walk the walk. But then he was in the Waffen SS and you get trained quite well there.
Now, we all make mistakes, I know that. But he was part of a regime that killed millions of people (You had to volunteer for the SS until the last months of the war) and now he sits on a golden throne and allows millions more to die, and be indoctrinated to die.
Popeonarope: I agree with just about everything you say, except for the very last bit. The new pope does indeed talk the talk and walk the walk. But then he was in the Waffen SS and you get trained quite well there. Now, we all make mistakes, I know that. But he was part of a regime that killed millions of people (You had to volunteer for the SS until the last months of the war) and now he sits on a golden throne and allows millions more to die, and be indoctrinated to die. LSC

5:58pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Popeonarope says...

LSC wrote:
Popeonarope: I agree with just about everything you say, except for the very last bit.
The new pope does indeed talk the talk and walk the walk. But then he was in the Waffen SS and you get trained quite well there.
Now, we all make mistakes, I know that. But he was part of a regime that killed millions of people (You had to volunteer for the SS until the last months of the war) and now he sits on a golden throne and allows millions more to die, and be indoctrinated to die.
I was under the impression that it was the previous incarnation that had been involved in fascist membership. Obviously it was played down, along with the capitulation of the whole catholic church with the Nazis in Germany throughout the thirties and beyond.
The organisation should have plenty to ask forgiveness for without having to bother the rest of us and our paltry sins.
[quote][p][bold]LSC[/bold] wrote: Popeonarope: I agree with just about everything you say, except for the very last bit. The new pope does indeed talk the talk and walk the walk. But then he was in the Waffen SS and you get trained quite well there. Now, we all make mistakes, I know that. But he was part of a regime that killed millions of people (You had to volunteer for the SS until the last months of the war) and now he sits on a golden throne and allows millions more to die, and be indoctrinated to die.[/p][/quote]I was under the impression that it was the previous incarnation that had been involved in fascist membership. Obviously it was played down, along with the capitulation of the whole catholic church with the Nazis in Germany throughout the thirties and beyond. The organisation should have plenty to ask forgiveness for without having to bother the rest of us and our paltry sins. Popeonarope

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