Nearly 95 per cent of Hertfordshire children given preferred secondary or upper schools choice

Nearly 95 per cent of the county's children given preferred secondary school choice

Nearly 95 per cent of the county's children given preferred secondary school choice

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Nearly 95 per cent of Hertfordshire children have been allocated a place at one of their preferred secondary or upper schools.

Most parents and carers in Hertfordshire will be able to access their secondary transfer allocation information this evening from 6pm.

Despite receiving over 500 more applications than in 2013, more children have been allocated their most preferred secondary or upper school - 10,039 compared to 9,755 last year.

In total 12,080 Hertfordshire children have been allocated one of their ranked schools, a success rate of 94.84 per cent.

Chris Hayward, executive member for Enterprise, Education and Skills, said: "Moving on to secondary or upper school is an important step and we work extremely hard to make the applications and allocation process smooth and straightforward.

"I do appreciate that some parents may be disappointed with the school they have been allocated, but would encourage them to visit the school and speak to the headteacher before dismissing the offered place. They may be pleasantly surprised by what they see."

All applicants who have not been offered their first preference school will automatically be placed on the continuing interest list for any Hertfordshire schools named higher on the application form than the school offered.

For more information about the post allocation processes visit www.hertsdirect.org/admissions School places must be accepted by March 17.

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1:45pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Cuetip says...

'..95 per cent of Hertfordshire children have been allocated a place at one of their preferred secondary or upper schools'.

Hopefully the data will be interrogated to see the % who got their preferred option especially in Watford which has highly regarded schools. The area does seem to suck in from as far as Boroughs of Brent and Harrow judging by those students using the High Street Station.
'..95 per cent of Hertfordshire children have been allocated a place at one of their preferred secondary or upper schools'. Hopefully the data will be interrogated to see the % who got their preferred option especially in Watford which has highly regarded schools. The area does seem to suck in from as far as Boroughs of Brent and Harrow judging by those students using the High Street Station. Cuetip
  • Score: 10

5:44pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Sara says...

In Watford, 89% receive one of their four preferences. In Rickmansworth the figure was 87% and in Abbots Langley it was 92%.

In human terms, that means in Watford 130 children did not receive a place at any of their preferred school, the same applied to 73 children in Three Rivers. Only 58% of Watford children and 70% of Three Rivers children received places at their first choice school.
In Watford, 89% receive one of their four preferences. In Rickmansworth the figure was 87% and in Abbots Langley it was 92%. In human terms, that means in Watford 130 children did not receive a place at any of their preferred school, the same applied to 73 children in Three Rivers. Only 58% of Watford children and 70% of Three Rivers children received places at their first choice school. Sara
  • Score: 4

6:41pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Cuetip says...

Sara wrote:
In Watford, 89% receive one of their four preferences. In Rickmansworth the figure was 87% and in Abbots Langley it was 92%.

In human terms, that means in Watford 130 children did not receive a place at any of their preferred school, the same applied to 73 children in Three Rivers. Only 58% of Watford children and 70% of Three Rivers children received places at their first choice school.
This is not good enough.

The scrutiny spotlight needs to examine whether Watford is being treated fairly eg

1 Evidence of where S106 money for Watford has been lost and if any has been spent on areas which have suffered from high density developments to enhance the environment of residents.

2 To drill down as the whether taxpayers who have chosen to live in Watford are losing out in school places.

3 The pothole situation on our roads.

4 The policing of our town.
[quote][p][bold]Sara[/bold] wrote: In Watford, 89% receive one of their four preferences. In Rickmansworth the figure was 87% and in Abbots Langley it was 92%. In human terms, that means in Watford 130 children did not receive a place at any of their preferred school, the same applied to 73 children in Three Rivers. Only 58% of Watford children and 70% of Three Rivers children received places at their first choice school.[/p][/quote]This is not good enough. The scrutiny spotlight needs to examine whether Watford is being treated fairly eg 1 Evidence of where S106 money for Watford has been lost and if any has been spent on areas which have suffered from high density developments to enhance the environment of residents. 2 To drill down as the whether taxpayers who have chosen to live in Watford are losing out in school places. 3 The pothole situation on our roads. 4 The policing of our town. Cuetip
  • Score: 6

7:07pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Felinefrenzi says...

What a load of cobblers!!
Whats the point in offering 4 choices of you get none of them. We are one of those '130'. Where does that 130 figure come from, nonsense, sure will be loads more that that across Watford.
Only 58% got their first choice school, thats disgusting.
And how many of our school places in Watford Schools went to kids, from Harrow, Hatch End, Pinner etc. Don't they have schools there....
:((
What a load of cobblers!! Whats the point in offering 4 choices of you get none of them. We are one of those '130'. Where does that 130 figure come from, nonsense, sure will be loads more that that across Watford. Only 58% got their first choice school, thats disgusting. And how many of our school places in Watford Schools went to kids, from Harrow, Hatch End, Pinner etc. Don't they have schools there.... :(( Felinefrenzi
  • Score: 11

9:18pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Sara says...

12% of places at Watford Boys and 17% at Watford Girls went to children who do not live in Hertfordshire.
12% of places at Watford Boys and 17% at Watford Girls went to children who do not live in Hertfordshire. Sara
  • Score: 1

10:39pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Felinefrenzi says...

Thanks for the clarification.
Why when Watford is so short of places are the academies allowed to do this, they really should be seriously reviewing their admission criteria.
There are bright kids in Watford, they don't have to import them !
Thanks for the clarification. Why when Watford is so short of places are the academies allowed to do this, they really should be seriously reviewing their admission criteria. There are bright kids in Watford, they don't have to import them ! Felinefrenzi
  • Score: 9

4:52pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Felinefrenzi says...

WO I sincerely hope you are not going to publish this article, as it stands in this weeks edition. It is clearly not the case, in my speaking to other parents.
Can we have a poll for other parents in the Watford area? Leave out the siblings and Statemented kids (genuine or not), who are altering the stats.
General SW Herts Consortium marks seem way up this year, such is the panic and demand over secondary places, in the Watford area.
Proper research, not regurgitated words from Hertfordshire.
WO I sincerely hope you are not going to publish this article, as it stands in this weeks edition. It is clearly not the case, in my speaking to other parents. Can we have a poll for other parents in the Watford area? Leave out the siblings and Statemented kids (genuine or not), who are altering the stats. General SW Herts Consortium marks seem way up this year, such is the panic and demand over secondary places, in the Watford area. Proper research, not regurgitated words from Hertfordshire. Felinefrenzi
  • Score: 0

9:10pm Tue 4 Mar 14

anon349 says...

Watford Grammar is by far a better school than any of the state schools in Hillingdon or Harrow where the majority of children from other counties come from. If they do better in the admissions test than children from Watford then why should they not be entitled to the place. It's not their fault that there are no partially selective schools in Harrow or Hillingdon!
Watford Grammar is by far a better school than any of the state schools in Hillingdon or Harrow where the majority of children from other counties come from. If they do better in the admissions test than children from Watford then why should they not be entitled to the place. It's not their fault that there are no partially selective schools in Harrow or Hillingdon! anon349
  • Score: -3

9:58pm Tue 4 Mar 14

ajuba1 says...

the problem isn't the children from out of watford who do well in the test, the problem is the increasing amount of families that rent on the doorstep of the grammar schools for six months, get a place and then bugger off back to where they came from, having secured sibling and cross-sibling places for all of their children.
This article is totally misleading. Almost half of the children that applied didn't get their first choice school and in many cases that I know of they got a school they hadn't even listed as a preference! the article needs to be re-written to reflect the actual crisis in secondary school places in watford that is getting worse year on year rather than taking a misleading headline statistic and presenting it as a positive outcome.
the problem isn't the children from out of watford who do well in the test, the problem is the increasing amount of families that rent on the doorstep of the grammar schools for six months, get a place and then bugger off back to where they came from, having secured sibling and cross-sibling places for all of their children. This article is totally misleading. Almost half of the children that applied didn't get their first choice school and in many cases that I know of they got a school they hadn't even listed as a preference! the article needs to be re-written to reflect the actual crisis in secondary school places in watford that is getting worse year on year rather than taking a misleading headline statistic and presenting it as a positive outcome. ajuba1
  • Score: 5

10:34am Wed 5 Mar 14

garston tony says...

The only sympathy i've got is for parents who put down the nearest schools as their choices but their child didnt get into one of them.

Much of this problem is because too many parents want to send their kids to the best schools which is understandable, but if those schools only have x amount of spaces and three/four times that number apply for them then a lot of people arent going to get their choice. That is NOT the LEA's fault is it! Its likely that the same parents then put the second best school down as second choice etc but you're going to encounter the same problem there too and so on.

Possibly overly simplistic, and I admit there would be need for some exceptions, but surely the 'fairest' system is one where kids get allocated to a school nearest them?
The only sympathy i've got is for parents who put down the nearest schools as their choices but their child didnt get into one of them. Much of this problem is because too many parents want to send their kids to the best schools which is understandable, but if those schools only have x amount of spaces and three/four times that number apply for them then a lot of people arent going to get their choice. That is NOT the LEA's fault is it! Its likely that the same parents then put the second best school down as second choice etc but you're going to encounter the same problem there too and so on. Possibly overly simplistic, and I admit there would be need for some exceptions, but surely the 'fairest' system is one where kids get allocated to a school nearest them? garston tony
  • Score: 0

1:12pm Wed 5 Mar 14

A_Parent2014 says...

....and this year Boys Grammar had all their 10% fulfilled 19 boys within 224m of the school. Meaning people who are 300m away, lived in the area have kids at local schools have lost out and are way down the CI list.
In 2013 this was 326m.

Yes agree with ajuba1 who hits the nail on the head with people renting nearby and leaving soon after. Dont they check with a little more gusto in this day and age to protect Watford residents?!

I am not looking forward to when my son/daughter go through this in a few years time. COME ON WATFORD OBSERVER GET THE LOW DOWN FROM REAL WATFORD RESIDENTS FOR A REAL NEWS STORY......PLEASE!
....and this year Boys Grammar had all their 10% fulfilled 19 boys within 224m of the school. Meaning people who are 300m away, lived in the area have kids at local schools have lost out and are way down the CI list. In 2013 this was 326m. Yes agree with ajuba1 who hits the nail on the head with people renting nearby and leaving soon after. Dont they check with a little more gusto in this day and age to protect Watford residents?! I am not looking forward to when my son/daughter go through this in a few years time. COME ON WATFORD OBSERVER GET THE LOW DOWN FROM REAL WATFORD RESIDENTS FOR A REAL NEWS STORY......PLEASE! A_Parent2014
  • Score: 2

1:34pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Felinefrenzi says...

Yes Tony, we could not get our nearest school, and we played by the book, you have to lie and cheat nowadays to get that, and only 10 per cent of Grammar places to local kids on location, now that's not fair. It is Watford grammar, not Hillingdon Grammar, or Harrow Grammar!
Local kids should always get priority.
If you know of a dishonest parent, report them, only then with this renting on school doorsteps be taken seriously, schools are clearly not doing enough.
Yes Tony, we could not get our nearest school, and we played by the book, you have to lie and cheat nowadays to get that, and only 10 per cent of Grammar places to local kids on location, now that's not fair. It is Watford grammar, not Hillingdon Grammar, or Harrow Grammar! Local kids should always get priority. If you know of a dishonest parent, report them, only then with this renting on school doorsteps be taken seriously, schools are clearly not doing enough. Felinefrenzi
  • Score: 2

6:13pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Be Nice says...

Sara wrote:
12% of places at Watford Boys and 17% at Watford Girls went to children who do not live in Hertfordshire.
In addition 20% of places at Bushey Meads went out of area too.

The only school in South West Herts with spaces on Allocation Day was The Reach Free School.

Bushey Academy was ranked 1st preference on more applications than Bushey Meads and Rickmansworth this year, they we due to accept 210 but took 265 and were very oversubscribed.
[quote][p][bold]Sara[/bold] wrote: 12% of places at Watford Boys and 17% at Watford Girls went to children who do not live in Hertfordshire.[/p][/quote]In addition 20% of places at Bushey Meads went out of area too. The only school in South West Herts with spaces on Allocation Day was The Reach Free School. Bushey Academy was ranked 1st preference on more applications than Bushey Meads and Rickmansworth this year, they we due to accept 210 but took 265 and were very oversubscribed. Be Nice
  • Score: 0

8:18pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Felinefrenzi says...

To any lay person, having 19 boys aged 10/11 years all living within 224m of the Boys grammar school, just a tad suspicious. And with another 14 or so within another 10m of that, on the distance wait list.
What are the chances of that in any other street in Hertfordshire, maybe just Lady's Close next to the girls school!
How can a school NOT be suspicious of that, and not do proper checks???? Come on WO do some investigations.
To any lay person, having 19 boys aged 10/11 years all living within 224m of the Boys grammar school, just a tad suspicious. And with another 14 or so within another 10m of that, on the distance wait list. What are the chances of that in any other street in Hertfordshire, maybe just Lady's Close next to the girls school! How can a school NOT be suspicious of that, and not do proper checks???? Come on WO do some investigations. Felinefrenzi
  • Score: 2

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