Trapped baby deer rescued from railings by firefighters

Picture from stock

Picture from stock

First published in News Watford Observer: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

Fire fighters rescued a baby deer this morning after it became stuck in the railings.

The crew from Watford was called to Wiggenhall Road near the petrol station at 9.15am.

They rescued the deer safely and unharmed.

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11:46am Mon 10 Mar 14

WatfordBandB says...

What a complete waste of time, money and resources. I have no idea why the FB went to so much trouble, I do like animals but on this occasion I firmly believe it should have been left to its own destiny.

“Hello, fire brigade, what is your emergency?”
“My wife and children are stuck in a flat, the fire is close to consuming them”
“I’m so sorry caller as soon as Bambi is sorted you will be next on our list”
What a complete waste of time, money and resources. I have no idea why the FB went to so much trouble, I do like animals but on this occasion I firmly believe it should have been left to its own destiny. “Hello, fire brigade, what is your emergency?” “My wife and children are stuck in a flat, the fire is close to consuming them” “I’m so sorry caller as soon as Bambi is sorted you will be next on our list” WatfordBandB
  • Score: -28

12:19pm Mon 10 Mar 14

pepsiman says...

I blame the parents
I blame the parents pepsiman
  • Score: -1

12:53pm Mon 10 Mar 14

bobbi 1 says...

In reply to WatfordBandB's Comments, I would like to thank our Fire Fighters who helped to free the deer, anyone would surely know that any fire fighters would never place priority in the first instance to rescue any animal before the general public, I have read many times when this has happened in the past in rescuing animals it is only because they are not in response to an emergency, and if a call came in they would obviously have to attend.
Thanks to our fab Watford Brigade on doing the right thing and not leaving this poor scared animal to suffer a miserable death.
In reply to WatfordBandB's Comments, I would like to thank our Fire Fighters who helped to free the deer, anyone would surely know that any fire fighters would never place priority in the first instance to rescue any animal before the general public, I have read many times when this has happened in the past in rescuing animals it is only because they are not in response to an emergency, and if a call came in they would obviously have to attend. Thanks to our fab Watford Brigade on doing the right thing and not leaving this poor scared animal to suffer a miserable death. bobbi 1
  • Score: 19

12:54pm Mon 10 Mar 14

#luvreadingthesamemuppetscommentingasexperts says...

WatfordBandB wrote:
What a complete waste of time, money and resources. I have no idea why the FB went to so much trouble, I do like animals but on this occasion I firmly believe it should have been left to its own destiny.

“Hello, fire brigade, what is your emergency?”
“My wife and children are stuck in a flat, the fire is close to consuming them”
“I’m so sorry caller as soon as Bambi is sorted you will be next on our list”
Never heard the term prioritise.........D
o you not think that your fire scenario would come before rescuing an animal in distress??? Just to help you in case you don't understand

Prioritise is a verb (transitive)

to arrange (items to be attended to) in order of their relative importance
to give priority to or establish as a priority
[quote][p][bold]WatfordBandB[/bold] wrote: What a complete waste of time, money and resources. I have no idea why the FB went to so much trouble, I do like animals but on this occasion I firmly believe it should have been left to its own destiny. “Hello, fire brigade, what is your emergency?” “My wife and children are stuck in a flat, the fire is close to consuming them” “I’m so sorry caller as soon as Bambi is sorted you will be next on our list”[/p][/quote]Never heard the term prioritise.........D o you not think that your fire scenario would come before rescuing an animal in distress??? Just to help you in case you don't understand Prioritise is a verb (transitive) to arrange (items to be attended to) in order of their relative importance to give priority to or establish as a priority #luvreadingthesamemuppetscommentingasexperts
  • Score: 5

1:17pm Mon 10 Mar 14

TRT says...

Are you sure it was, as per your picture, a white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus), native to the Americas, and not a muntjac (Muntiacus reevesi)? I've seen a Reeve's muntjac roaming around that area, as has a friend from Moor Park. They were escapees from Woburn, I believe. Or was it Whipsnade? It began with a 'W' anyway.
Are you sure it was, as per your picture, a white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus), native to the Americas, and not a muntjac (Muntiacus reevesi)? I've seen a Reeve's muntjac roaming around that area, as has a friend from Moor Park. They were escapees from Woburn, I believe. Or was it Whipsnade? It began with a 'W' anyway. TRT
  • Score: 1

1:28pm Mon 10 Mar 14

garston tony says...

#luvreadingthesamemu
ppetscommentingasexp
erts
wrote:
WatfordBandB wrote: What a complete waste of time, money and resources. I have no idea why the FB went to so much trouble, I do like animals but on this occasion I firmly believe it should have been left to its own destiny. “Hello, fire brigade, what is your emergency?” “My wife and children are stuck in a flat, the fire is close to consuming them” “I’m so sorry caller as soon as Bambi is sorted you will be next on our list”
Never heard the term prioritise.........D o you not think that your fire scenario would come before rescuing an animal in distress??? Just to help you in case you don't understand Prioritise is a verb (transitive) to arrange (items to be attended to) in order of their relative importance to give priority to or establish as a priority
Not saying you are wrong necessarily about it not being a FB job but saying it should be left it its 'own destiny' is to start with rather strange from someone who claims to like animals and more to the point not possible.

You're basically saying leave the animal trapped and in distress, possibly pain until it eventually dies a few days later. Then what, leave the body rotting there until it is eaten or disintegrates, and then what about the bones? Thats before you take into account predators attacking it, curious children getting too close and getting kicked, nasty children taunting and or harming it and so on. Maybe you would have liked the WO to post pictures and updates every now and then on how the poor beast was getting weaker and weaker?

Maybe the RSPCA or similar would have been more appropriate, but if the FB were available why not them? As others have pointed out if an emergency call came in they would leave and go to it, in the meantime maybe this could be viewed as good practise for when a kid gets their head stuck in railings or such like. Or maybe you'd like them left to their own destiny too?
[quote][p][bold]#luvreadingthesamemu ppetscommentingasexp erts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WatfordBandB[/bold] wrote: What a complete waste of time, money and resources. I have no idea why the FB went to so much trouble, I do like animals but on this occasion I firmly believe it should have been left to its own destiny. “Hello, fire brigade, what is your emergency?” “My wife and children are stuck in a flat, the fire is close to consuming them” “I’m so sorry caller as soon as Bambi is sorted you will be next on our list”[/p][/quote]Never heard the term prioritise.........D o you not think that your fire scenario would come before rescuing an animal in distress??? Just to help you in case you don't understand Prioritise is a verb (transitive) to arrange (items to be attended to) in order of their relative importance to give priority to or establish as a priority[/p][/quote]Not saying you are wrong necessarily about it not being a FB job but saying it should be left it its 'own destiny' is to start with rather strange from someone who claims to like animals and more to the point not possible. You're basically saying leave the animal trapped and in distress, possibly pain until it eventually dies a few days later. Then what, leave the body rotting there until it is eaten or disintegrates, and then what about the bones? Thats before you take into account predators attacking it, curious children getting too close and getting kicked, nasty children taunting and or harming it and so on. Maybe you would have liked the WO to post pictures and updates every now and then on how the poor beast was getting weaker and weaker? Maybe the RSPCA or similar would have been more appropriate, but if the FB were available why not them? As others have pointed out if an emergency call came in they would leave and go to it, in the meantime maybe this could be viewed as good practise for when a kid gets their head stuck in railings or such like. Or maybe you'd like them left to their own destiny too? garston tony
  • Score: 11

1:42pm Mon 10 Mar 14

angryangryangry says...

If they had left it, it may have lost the weight to wriggle itself free! Surely this is a job for RSPCA or vet rather than FB.
If they had left it, it may have lost the weight to wriggle itself free! Surely this is a job for RSPCA or vet rather than FB. angryangryangry
  • Score: -6

2:36pm Mon 10 Mar 14

WatfordBandB says...

TRT wrote:
Are you sure it was, as per your picture, a white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus), native to the Americas, and not a muntjac (Muntiacus reevesi)? I've seen a Reeve's muntjac roaming around that area, as has a friend from Moor Park. They were escapees from Woburn, I believe. Or was it Whipsnade? It began with a 'W' anyway.
zzzzzzzzzz
[quote][p][bold]TRT[/bold] wrote: Are you sure it was, as per your picture, a white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus), native to the Americas, and not a muntjac (Muntiacus reevesi)? I've seen a Reeve's muntjac roaming around that area, as has a friend from Moor Park. They were escapees from Woburn, I believe. Or was it Whipsnade? It began with a 'W' anyway.[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzz WatfordBandB
  • Score: -2

2:37pm Mon 10 Mar 14

WatfordBandB says...

garston tony wrote:
#luvreadingthesamemu

ppetscommentingasexp

erts
wrote:
WatfordBandB wrote: What a complete waste of time, money and resources. I have no idea why the FB went to so much trouble, I do like animals but on this occasion I firmly believe it should have been left to its own destiny. “Hello, fire brigade, what is your emergency?” “My wife and children are stuck in a flat, the fire is close to consuming them” “I’m so sorry caller as soon as Bambi is sorted you will be next on our list”
Never heard the term prioritise.........D o you not think that your fire scenario would come before rescuing an animal in distress??? Just to help you in case you don't understand Prioritise is a verb (transitive) to arrange (items to be attended to) in order of their relative importance to give priority to or establish as a priority
Not saying you are wrong necessarily about it not being a FB job but saying it should be left it its 'own destiny' is to start with rather strange from someone who claims to like animals and more to the point not possible.

You're basically saying leave the animal trapped and in distress, possibly pain until it eventually dies a few days later. Then what, leave the body rotting there until it is eaten or disintegrates, and then what about the bones? Thats before you take into account predators attacking it, curious children getting too close and getting kicked, nasty children taunting and or harming it and so on. Maybe you would have liked the WO to post pictures and updates every now and then on how the poor beast was getting weaker and weaker?

Maybe the RSPCA or similar would have been more appropriate, but if the FB were available why not them? As others have pointed out if an emergency call came in they would leave and go to it, in the meantime maybe this could be viewed as good practise for when a kid gets their head stuck in railings or such like. Or maybe you'd like them left to their own destiny too?
Sorry, I drifted off reading your post and I am now going to watch paint dry. My God your poor poor wife...
[quote][p][bold]garston tony[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]#luvreadingthesamemu ppetscommentingasexp erts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WatfordBandB[/bold] wrote: What a complete waste of time, money and resources. I have no idea why the FB went to so much trouble, I do like animals but on this occasion I firmly believe it should have been left to its own destiny. “Hello, fire brigade, what is your emergency?” “My wife and children are stuck in a flat, the fire is close to consuming them” “I’m so sorry caller as soon as Bambi is sorted you will be next on our list”[/p][/quote]Never heard the term prioritise.........D o you not think that your fire scenario would come before rescuing an animal in distress??? Just to help you in case you don't understand Prioritise is a verb (transitive) to arrange (items to be attended to) in order of their relative importance to give priority to or establish as a priority[/p][/quote]Not saying you are wrong necessarily about it not being a FB job but saying it should be left it its 'own destiny' is to start with rather strange from someone who claims to like animals and more to the point not possible. You're basically saying leave the animal trapped and in distress, possibly pain until it eventually dies a few days later. Then what, leave the body rotting there until it is eaten or disintegrates, and then what about the bones? Thats before you take into account predators attacking it, curious children getting too close and getting kicked, nasty children taunting and or harming it and so on. Maybe you would have liked the WO to post pictures and updates every now and then on how the poor beast was getting weaker and weaker? Maybe the RSPCA or similar would have been more appropriate, but if the FB were available why not them? As others have pointed out if an emergency call came in they would leave and go to it, in the meantime maybe this could be viewed as good practise for when a kid gets their head stuck in railings or such like. Or maybe you'd like them left to their own destiny too?[/p][/quote]Sorry, I drifted off reading your post and I am now going to watch paint dry. My God your poor poor wife... WatfordBandB
  • Score: -2

5:11pm Mon 10 Mar 14

#luvreadingthesamemuppetscommentingasexperts says...

WatfordBandB wrote:
#luvreadingthesamemu

ppetscommentingasexp

erts
wrote:
WatfordBandB wrote:
What a complete waste of time, money and resources. I have no idea why the FB went to so much trouble, I do like animals but on this occasion I firmly believe it should have been left to its own destiny.

“Hello, fire brigade, what is your emergency?”
“My wife and children are stuck in a flat, the fire is close to consuming them”
“I’m so sorry caller as soon as Bambi is sorted you will be next on our list”
Never heard the term prioritise.........D


o you not think that your fire scenario would come before rescuing an animal in distress??? Just to help you in case you don't understand

Prioritise is a verb (transitive)

to arrange (items to be attended to) in order of their relative importance
to give priority to or establish as a priority
Oh dear, you really are a twit, I blame your Mother, she was a twit and a lady that interfered with dead animals, its fortunate that she is/was not around or that animal may have found itself in a rather more provocative situation...
Gotta love a brave keyboard warrior, I suppose every paper has one, just ours hasn't really matured yet, still there's hope his retorts will get better........
[quote][p][bold]WatfordBandB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]#luvreadingthesamemu ppetscommentingasexp erts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WatfordBandB[/bold] wrote: What a complete waste of time, money and resources. I have no idea why the FB went to so much trouble, I do like animals but on this occasion I firmly believe it should have been left to its own destiny. “Hello, fire brigade, what is your emergency?” “My wife and children are stuck in a flat, the fire is close to consuming them” “I’m so sorry caller as soon as Bambi is sorted you will be next on our list”[/p][/quote]Never heard the term prioritise.........D o you not think that your fire scenario would come before rescuing an animal in distress??? Just to help you in case you don't understand Prioritise is a verb (transitive) to arrange (items to be attended to) in order of their relative importance to give priority to or establish as a priority[/p][/quote]Oh dear, you really are a twit, I blame your Mother, she was a twit and a lady that interfered with dead animals, its fortunate that she is/was not around or that animal may have found itself in a rather more provocative situation...[/p][/quote]Gotta love a brave keyboard warrior, I suppose every paper has one, just ours hasn't really matured yet, still there's hope his retorts will get better........ #luvreadingthesamemuppetscommentingasexperts
  • Score: 0

9:06pm Mon 10 Mar 14

bobbi 1 says...

I also feel that it is worth mentioning that in a previous comment it was felt that the RSPCA may have been more appropriate in rescuing this animal, to which I agree but unfortunately the RSPCA don't seem to have the resources and time to be able to help an animal in distress quickly or unless it is close to death and passed the point of no return.
I take no pleasure from making this comment, but as an animal lover and by my own experience in contacting the RSPCA in the past
I woud not bother calling them in an emergency for the above reasons which is why I would now not subscribe to give money to this charity which is a real shame as an a iCal lover, but I feel they have got their priorities wrong.

Again I'm proud of our Watford Firefighters who got a call got the job done and helped an animal in distress quickly and with a great result, may you all sleep well on a great job done so well. Thank you.
I also feel that it is worth mentioning that in a previous comment it was felt that the RSPCA may have been more appropriate in rescuing this animal, to which I agree but unfortunately the RSPCA don't seem to have the resources and time to be able to help an animal in distress quickly or unless it is close to death and passed the point of no return. I take no pleasure from making this comment, but as an animal lover and by my own experience in contacting the RSPCA in the past I woud not bother calling them in an emergency for the above reasons which is why I would now not subscribe to give money to this charity which is a real shame as an a iCal lover, but I feel they have got their priorities wrong. Again I'm proud of our Watford Firefighters who got a call got the job done and helped an animal in distress quickly and with a great result, may you all sleep well on a great job done so well. Thank you. bobbi 1
  • Score: 5

9:20pm Mon 10 Mar 14

bobbi 1 says...

Sorry just wanted to correct my incorrect spelling error in my last post it shoud have said an animal lover, as I am pretty sure someone will correct my grammar as they have nothing better to say, but I feel really strongly about this article and the points I have raised within my post.
Sorry just wanted to correct my incorrect spelling error in my last post it shoud have said an animal lover, as I am pretty sure someone will correct my grammar as they have nothing better to say, but I feel really strongly about this article and the points I have raised within my post. bobbi 1
  • Score: 0

9:31am Tue 11 Mar 14

chris1986ceo says...

Wow can't belive the fire brigade said they rescued it me and two polish fellas got the muntjac free the firefighters turned up later on wiggenhall road cheek saying they rescued it when me my mate and loads of other people saw us do it. Not happy I even ran over to the fire vehicle witch parked outside the Irish club on wiggenhall road and told them me and a couple of other guys got it free . So not happy when they where late there and we freed it I put my works fleece over its head to keep it calm a woman held its horns . While me two polish men pulled it back and then freed its leg witch was free then pushed it threw the fence carefully . Not happy when they didn't free it
Just now saw it and was thinking why it say that when it was me two polish fellas and a woman that helped free it. Fire fighters turned up about 10 mins after we freed it it then ran behind tye woods near Irish club . So not happy with seeing this t your stories right
Wow can't belive the fire brigade said they rescued it me and two polish fellas got the muntjac free the firefighters turned up later on wiggenhall road cheek saying they rescued it when me my mate and loads of other people saw us do it. Not happy I even ran over to the fire vehicle witch parked outside the Irish club on wiggenhall road and told them me and a couple of other guys got it free . So not happy when they where late there and we freed it I put my works fleece over its head to keep it calm a woman held its horns . While me two polish men pulled it back and then freed its leg witch was free then pushed it threw the fence carefully . Not happy when they didn't free it Just now saw it and was thinking why it say that when it was me two polish fellas and a woman that helped free it. Fire fighters turned up about 10 mins after we freed it it then ran behind tye woods near Irish club . So not happy with seeing this t your stories right chris1986ceo
  • Score: 2

9:36am Tue 11 Mar 14

chris1986ceo says...

Also it was a muntjac
Also it was a muntjac chris1986ceo
  • Score: 2

1:10pm Tue 11 Mar 14

CaptainPC says...

chris1986ceo wrote:
Wow can't belive the fire brigade said they rescued it me and two polish fellas got the muntjac free the firefighters turned up later on wiggenhall road cheek saying they rescued it when me my mate and loads of other people saw us do it. Not happy I even ran over to the fire vehicle witch parked outside the Irish club on wiggenhall road and told them me and a couple of other guys got it free . So not happy when they where late there and we freed it I put my works fleece over its head to keep it calm a woman held its horns . While me two polish men pulled it back and then freed its leg witch was free then pushed it threw the fence carefully . Not happy when they didn't free it
Just now saw it and was thinking why it say that when it was me two polish fellas and a woman that helped free it. Fire fighters turned up about 10 mins after we freed it it then ran behind tye woods near Irish club . So not happy with seeing this t your stories right
Well done mate....Hooray for you.
[quote][p][bold]chris1986ceo[/bold] wrote: Wow can't belive the fire brigade said they rescued it me and two polish fellas got the muntjac free the firefighters turned up later on wiggenhall road cheek saying they rescued it when me my mate and loads of other people saw us do it. Not happy I even ran over to the fire vehicle witch parked outside the Irish club on wiggenhall road and told them me and a couple of other guys got it free . So not happy when they where late there and we freed it I put my works fleece over its head to keep it calm a woman held its horns . While me two polish men pulled it back and then freed its leg witch was free then pushed it threw the fence carefully . Not happy when they didn't free it Just now saw it and was thinking why it say that when it was me two polish fellas and a woman that helped free it. Fire fighters turned up about 10 mins after we freed it it then ran behind tye woods near Irish club . So not happy with seeing this t your stories right[/p][/quote]Well done mate....Hooray for you. CaptainPC
  • Score: 1

1:49pm Tue 11 Mar 14

chris1986ceo says...

CaptainPC wrote:
chris1986ceo wrote:
Wow can't belive the fire brigade said they rescued it me and two polish fellas got the muntjac free the firefighters turned up later on wiggenhall road cheek saying they rescued it when me my mate and loads of other people saw us do it. Not happy I even ran over to the fire vehicle witch parked outside the Irish club on wiggenhall road and told them me and a couple of other guys got it free . So not happy when they where late there and we freed it I put my works fleece over its head to keep it calm a woman held its horns . While me two polish men pulled it back and then freed its leg witch was free then pushed it threw the fence carefully . Not happy when they didn't free it
Just now saw it and was thinking why it say that when it was me two polish fellas and a woman that helped free it. Fire fighters turned up about 10 mins after we freed it it then ran behind tye woods near Irish club . So not happy with seeing this t your stories right
Well done mate....Hooray for you.
Thanks Me and my mate can't belive this after the fire brigade turned up with blue lights I ran up to them told them we freed it and they said thanks and now they taking creed for. It.
[quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris1986ceo[/bold] wrote: Wow can't belive the fire brigade said they rescued it me and two polish fellas got the muntjac free the firefighters turned up later on wiggenhall road cheek saying they rescued it when me my mate and loads of other people saw us do it. Not happy I even ran over to the fire vehicle witch parked outside the Irish club on wiggenhall road and told them me and a couple of other guys got it free . So not happy when they where late there and we freed it I put my works fleece over its head to keep it calm a woman held its horns . While me two polish men pulled it back and then freed its leg witch was free then pushed it threw the fence carefully . Not happy when they didn't free it Just now saw it and was thinking why it say that when it was me two polish fellas and a woman that helped free it. Fire fighters turned up about 10 mins after we freed it it then ran behind tye woods near Irish club . So not happy with seeing this t your stories right[/p][/quote]Well done mate....Hooray for you.[/p][/quote]Thanks Me and my mate can't belive this after the fire brigade turned up with blue lights I ran up to them told them we freed it and they said thanks and now they taking creed for. It. chris1986ceo
  • Score: 0

8:33pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Garth Woodhead says...

Those little deers are very tasty. We had one in our church one sunday, so my friend George despached it and we had it for sunday lunch. It really was delicious.
Those little deers are very tasty. We had one in our church one sunday, so my friend George despached it and we had it for sunday lunch. It really was delicious. Garth Woodhead
  • Score: 0

8:36pm Tue 11 Mar 14

bobbi 1 says...

Chris 1986, thanks to you and the other people who helped to free the deer, job well done! you all did the right thing, I understand how you must feel in not getting the credit you deserve but you have to understand that our Fire Brigade were not the ones who put the article in the paper it was the Watford Observer who reported the details so they should not be blamed.
Everyone who helped to free the deer should be happy in their own heart to know they helped and done the right thing with a great outcome & that when called the fire brigade were happy to respond regardless of who was wrong or right on the day. End of.
Chris 1986, thanks to you and the other people who helped to free the deer, job well done! you all did the right thing, I understand how you must feel in not getting the credit you deserve but you have to understand that our Fire Brigade were not the ones who put the article in the paper it was the Watford Observer who reported the details so they should not be blamed. Everyone who helped to free the deer should be happy in their own heart to know they helped and done the right thing with a great outcome & that when called the fire brigade were happy to respond regardless of who was wrong or right on the day. End of. bobbi 1
  • Score: 2

10:18pm Tue 11 Mar 14

chris1986ceo says...

bobbi 1 wrote:
Chris 1986, thanks to you and the other people who helped to free the deer, job well done! you all did the right thing, I understand how you must feel in not getting the credit you deserve but you have to understand that our Fire Brigade were not the ones who put the article in the paper it was the Watford Observer who reported the details so they should not be blamed.
Everyone who helped to free the deer should be happy in their own heart to know they helped and done the right thing with a great outcome & that when called the fire brigade were happy to respond regardless of who was wrong or right on the day. End of.
Ya that's true just wish it was said right . Firemen were nice they said thanks and well done
[quote][p][bold]bobbi 1[/bold] wrote: Chris 1986, thanks to you and the other people who helped to free the deer, job well done! you all did the right thing, I understand how you must feel in not getting the credit you deserve but you have to understand that our Fire Brigade were not the ones who put the article in the paper it was the Watford Observer who reported the details so they should not be blamed. Everyone who helped to free the deer should be happy in their own heart to know they helped and done the right thing with a great outcome & that when called the fire brigade were happy to respond regardless of who was wrong or right on the day. End of.[/p][/quote]Ya that's true just wish it was said right . Firemen were nice they said thanks and well done chris1986ceo
  • Score: 0

4:02pm Wed 12 Mar 14

WatfordBandB says...

Chris1986 you speak like a complete muppet me mate, me and me mate think your well stoopid, was you sure it was not you and yir meet stuck in the fence and the Deer rescued you?

P.S Are yee not happy wiv der fire brigade?
Chris1986 you speak like a complete muppet me mate, me and me mate think your well stoopid, was you sure it was not you and yir meet stuck in the fence and the Deer rescued you? P.S Are yee not happy wiv der fire brigade? WatfordBandB
  • Score: 0

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