Drug-dealer banned from owning two phones or using a taxi

Omar Khan

Omar Khan

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A drug dealer serving more than four years in prison has been put under a court order to prevent him returning to his criminal trade.

Omar Khan, aged 34, from Ashfield Avenue in Bushey, had a Serious Crime Prevention Order, which restricts his movement and activities, imposed on him on Tuesday at St Albans Crown Court.

The order prevents Khan from being in possession of more than £2,000 in cash, having more than one bank account, possessing more than two mobile devices, using taxis and he must also notify police of all vehicles he owns.

It also prohibits him from having contact with his associates Ozan Hendley and Lee Raymond Cook, who were convicted as part of the same drugs supply conspiracy, and also Ian Harris, who had previously been linked to him. 

The order lasts for three years from Khan’s release from prison and he can face up to five years in prison for breaching any of the conditions.

Detective Sergeant Ben Freeman said: "We are extremely pleased that this order was granted. Only four of these orders have been granted in Hertfordshire since they came into force in 2008. The offence he was convicted of involved a significant amount of cocaine and police found the drugs supply operation to be highly sophisticated. 

"We had reasonable ground to suspect that Khan would return to dealing drugs on his release. The restrictions placed on Khan will greatly restrict his ability to return to a life of crime and therefore reduce the risk he poses to the community when he is released."

David Lloyd, Police and Crime Commissioner for Hertfordshire, added: "I fully support the use of any legislation that takes away a criminal’s ability to commit crime. Watford residents can take comfort in the knowledge that this offender will find it considerably more difficult to return to a life of crime if that is what he chooses to do on his release from prison."

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5:35pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Popeonarope says...

Yeah, that will teach him!
Maybe prolific career criminals should get more that four years.
Im sure hes gutted.
Yeah, that will teach him! Maybe prolific career criminals should get more that four years. Im sure hes gutted. Popeonarope
  • Score: 17

9:24am Fri 14 Mar 14

CaptainPC says...

All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.
All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh. CaptainPC
  • Score: -16

9:58am Fri 14 Mar 14

family terrace rule says...

CaptainPC wrote:
All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.
And there's never been a link between selling drugs and violence has there? The scum should stay locked up.
[quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.[/p][/quote]And there's never been a link between selling drugs and violence has there? The scum should stay locked up. family terrace rule
  • Score: 9

10:41am Fri 14 Mar 14

CaptainPC says...

family terrace rule wrote:
CaptainPC wrote:
All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.
And there's never been a link between selling drugs and violence has there? The scum should stay locked up.
I think the link is there, but I think the violence comes from the fact the industry is unregulated and criminalised. You can't take someone to the small claims court if they owe you money for drugs.
[quote][p][bold]family terrace rule[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.[/p][/quote]And there's never been a link between selling drugs and violence has there? The scum should stay locked up.[/p][/quote]I think the link is there, but I think the violence comes from the fact the industry is unregulated and criminalised. You can't take someone to the small claims court if they owe you money for drugs. CaptainPC
  • Score: -11

11:06am Fri 14 Mar 14

family terrace rule says...

CaptainPC wrote:
family terrace rule wrote:
CaptainPC wrote:
All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.
And there's never been a link between selling drugs and violence has there? The scum should stay locked up.
I think the link is there, but I think the violence comes from the fact the industry is unregulated and criminalised. You can't take someone to the small claims court if they owe you money for drugs.
This is true, but if the trade was legalised, people like this would not be running it. They would have to switch to some other form of crime.
[quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]family terrace rule[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.[/p][/quote]And there's never been a link between selling drugs and violence has there? The scum should stay locked up.[/p][/quote]I think the link is there, but I think the violence comes from the fact the industry is unregulated and criminalised. You can't take someone to the small claims court if they owe you money for drugs.[/p][/quote]This is true, but if the trade was legalised, people like this would not be running it. They would have to switch to some other form of crime. family terrace rule
  • Score: 2

11:39am Fri 14 Mar 14

CaptainPC says...

family terrace rule wrote:
CaptainPC wrote:
family terrace rule wrote:
CaptainPC wrote:
All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.
And there's never been a link between selling drugs and violence has there? The scum should stay locked up.
I think the link is there, but I think the violence comes from the fact the industry is unregulated and criminalised. You can't take someone to the small claims court if they owe you money for drugs.
This is true, but if the trade was legalised, people like this would not be running it. They would have to switch to some other form of crime.
Maybe, but the Police would have much more resource to target criminals.
[quote][p][bold]family terrace rule[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]family terrace rule[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.[/p][/quote]And there's never been a link between selling drugs and violence has there? The scum should stay locked up.[/p][/quote]I think the link is there, but I think the violence comes from the fact the industry is unregulated and criminalised. You can't take someone to the small claims court if they owe you money for drugs.[/p][/quote]This is true, but if the trade was legalised, people like this would not be running it. They would have to switch to some other form of crime.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but the Police would have much more resource to target criminals. CaptainPC
  • Score: 0

12:33pm Fri 14 Mar 14

LocalBoy1 says...

Omar Khan. I can here it now. "I'll be back" and the scumbag will..
Omar Khan. I can here it now. "I'll be back" and the scumbag will.. LocalBoy1
  • Score: 6

2:37pm Fri 14 Mar 14

CaptainPC says...

What are you on about LB1? He's not the Terminator.
What are you on about LB1? He's not the Terminator. CaptainPC
  • Score: -1

3:37pm Fri 14 Mar 14

LocalBoy1 says...

CaptainPC wrote:
What are you on about LB1? He's not the Terminator.
Just my little joke..):):) But I bet he will..
[quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: What are you on about LB1? He's not the Terminator.[/p][/quote]Just my little joke..):):) But I bet he will.. LocalBoy1
  • Score: 0

8:41pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Nascot says...

David Lloyd, Police and Crime Commissioner for Hertfordshire, added: "I fully support the use of any legislation that takes away a criminal’s ability to commit crime. Watford residents can take comfort in the knowledge that this offender will find it considerably more difficult to return to a life of crime if that is what he chooses to do on his release from prison."

Not that I want to be picky Mr Lloyd, but is Ashfield Avenue actually IN Watford? Surely he should say 'Hertsmere residents ....
David Lloyd, Police and Crime Commissioner for Hertfordshire, added: "I fully support the use of any legislation that takes away a criminal’s ability to commit crime. Watford residents can take comfort in the knowledge that this offender will find it considerably more difficult to return to a life of crime if that is what he chooses to do on his release from prison." Not that I want to be picky Mr Lloyd, but is Ashfield Avenue actually IN Watford? Surely he should say 'Hertsmere residents .... Nascot
  • Score: 1

10:58pm Fri 14 Mar 14

NoseyB says...

LocalBoy1 wrote:
Omar Khan. I can here it now. "I'll be back" and the scumbag will..
LOCALBOY1 I can see your grammer is left down the dumps...tell me what else you can HEAR?
Didn't your mama teach you that its wrong to 'hate''!! Don't worry lil scumbag, you carry on living the life of a **** and giving it the large behind the screen! LMAO "I'l be back"!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]LocalBoy1[/bold] wrote: Omar Khan. I can here it now. "I'll be back" and the scumbag will..[/p][/quote]LOCALBOY1 I can see your grammer is left down the dumps...tell me what else you can HEAR? Didn't your mama teach you that its wrong to 'hate''!! Don't worry lil scumbag, you carry on living the life of a **** and giving it the large behind the screen! LMAO "I'l be back"!!!!! NoseyB
  • Score: -4

11:33am Sat 15 Mar 14

LocalBoy1 says...

NoseyB wrote:
LocalBoy1 wrote:
Omar Khan. I can here it now. "I'll be back" and the scumbag will..
LOCALBOY1 I can see your grammer is left down the dumps...tell me what else you can HEAR?
Didn't your mama teach you that its wrong to 'hate''!! Don't worry lil scumbag, you carry on living the life of a **** and giving it the large behind the screen! LMAO "I'l be back"!!!!!
Your English is dreadful and your grammar likewise. Get a life you semi illiterate moron. Lost your supplier have you? Shame. Omar Khan and dealers like him are the parasitical scum of our society. The sentence should have been much more severe!
[quote][p][bold]NoseyB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBoy1[/bold] wrote: Omar Khan. I can here it now. "I'll be back" and the scumbag will..[/p][/quote]LOCALBOY1 I can see your grammer is left down the dumps...tell me what else you can HEAR? Didn't your mama teach you that its wrong to 'hate''!! Don't worry lil scumbag, you carry on living the life of a **** and giving it the large behind the screen! LMAO "I'l be back"!!!!![/p][/quote]Your English is dreadful and your grammar likewise. Get a life you semi illiterate moron. Lost your supplier have you? Shame. Omar Khan and dealers like him are the parasitical scum of our society. The sentence should have been much more severe! LocalBoy1
  • Score: 12

12:00pm Sat 15 Mar 14

MW1234 says...

Just one problem with this... who exactly is going to ensure that Omar Khan doesn't breach his SCPO?

I mean... 90,000 people in Watford, hundreds (if not thousands) of taxis in the town and you expect our Police force to fully monitor one person!! No disrespect... but you've got more chance of winning the lottery than you have of this villain being caught in the act, therefore I have no doubt Omar Khan will continue his 'trade' and MAY be eventually caught after a while.

Strange how Police believe having a judge 'sign' a piece of paper is the solution to the problem, when (through no fault of their own) they don't have the resources to follow up on it's content.

Of course, there is also the possibility that Omar Khan will abide to the terms of his SCPO for the full 3 years, then what? Call it a 'delay' in him restarting his 'trade'.

Whatever the final outcome, this shows how pathetic our legal system can be at times... give someone 4 years in jail for committing a crime, then only threaten them with 5 years in jail for breaching an order preventing repeat behaviour in the next 3 years... surely if this guy is as serious threat as they believe, then the order should be for 'life' and any breach could result in 'life' imprisonment... that would make Omar Khan think twice.

Or, am I being too harsh on this drug-dealing scum?

Police are calling this SCPO a success, no doubt so is Omar Khan!!
Just one problem with this... who exactly is going to ensure that Omar Khan doesn't breach his SCPO? I mean... 90,000 people in Watford, hundreds (if not thousands) of taxis in the town and you expect our Police force to fully monitor one person!! No disrespect... but you've got more chance of winning the lottery than you have of this villain being caught in the act, therefore I have no doubt Omar Khan will continue his 'trade' and MAY be eventually caught after a while. Strange how Police believe having a judge 'sign' a piece of paper is the solution to the problem, when (through no fault of their own) they don't have the resources to follow up on it's content. Of course, there is also the possibility that Omar Khan will abide to the terms of his SCPO for the full 3 years, then what? Call it a 'delay' in him restarting his 'trade'. Whatever the final outcome, this shows how pathetic our legal system can be at times... give someone 4 years in jail for committing a crime, then only threaten them with 5 years in jail for breaching an order preventing repeat behaviour in the next 3 years... surely if this guy is as serious threat as they believe, then the order should be for 'life' and any breach could result in 'life' imprisonment... that would make Omar Khan think twice. Or, am I being too harsh on this drug-dealing scum? Police are calling this SCPO a success, no doubt so is Omar Khan!! MW1234
  • Score: 5

12:32pm Sat 15 Mar 14

LocalBoy1 says...

MW1234 wrote:
Just one problem with this... who exactly is going to ensure that Omar Khan doesn't breach his SCPO?

I mean... 90,000 people in Watford, hundreds (if not thousands) of taxis in the town and you expect our Police force to fully monitor one person!! No disrespect... but you've got more chance of winning the lottery than you have of this villain being caught in the act, therefore I have no doubt Omar Khan will continue his 'trade' and MAY be eventually caught after a while.

Strange how Police believe having a judge 'sign' a piece of paper is the solution to the problem, when (through no fault of their own) they don't have the resources to follow up on it's content.

Of course, there is also the possibility that Omar Khan will abide to the terms of his SCPO for the full 3 years, then what? Call it a 'delay' in him restarting his 'trade'.

Whatever the final outcome, this shows how pathetic our legal system can be at times... give someone 4 years in jail for committing a crime, then only threaten them with 5 years in jail for breaching an order preventing repeat behaviour in the next 3 years... surely if this guy is as serious threat as they believe, then the order should be for 'life' and any breach could result in 'life' imprisonment... that would make Omar Khan think twice.

Or, am I being too harsh on this drug-dealing scum?

Police are calling this SCPO a success, no doubt so is Omar Khan!!
No you're not being too harsh. Drug dealing scum is exactly what Omar Khan is.... Perhaps Khan should have been made to visit a rehab clinic to see the damage his drugs cause, or a hospital where nasal resectioning is carried out to repair the damage done from snorting his drugs... He will I am sure breach his SCPO and I for one would delight in seeing him back inside for five years!
[quote][p][bold]MW1234[/bold] wrote: Just one problem with this... who exactly is going to ensure that Omar Khan doesn't breach his SCPO? I mean... 90,000 people in Watford, hundreds (if not thousands) of taxis in the town and you expect our Police force to fully monitor one person!! No disrespect... but you've got more chance of winning the lottery than you have of this villain being caught in the act, therefore I have no doubt Omar Khan will continue his 'trade' and MAY be eventually caught after a while. Strange how Police believe having a judge 'sign' a piece of paper is the solution to the problem, when (through no fault of their own) they don't have the resources to follow up on it's content. Of course, there is also the possibility that Omar Khan will abide to the terms of his SCPO for the full 3 years, then what? Call it a 'delay' in him restarting his 'trade'. Whatever the final outcome, this shows how pathetic our legal system can be at times... give someone 4 years in jail for committing a crime, then only threaten them with 5 years in jail for breaching an order preventing repeat behaviour in the next 3 years... surely if this guy is as serious threat as they believe, then the order should be for 'life' and any breach could result in 'life' imprisonment... that would make Omar Khan think twice. Or, am I being too harsh on this drug-dealing scum? Police are calling this SCPO a success, no doubt so is Omar Khan!![/p][/quote]No you're not being too harsh. Drug dealing scum is exactly what Omar Khan is.... Perhaps Khan should have been made to visit a rehab clinic to see the damage his drugs cause, or a hospital where nasal resectioning is carried out to repair the damage done from snorting his drugs... He will I am sure breach his SCPO and I for one would delight in seeing him back inside for five years! LocalBoy1
  • Score: 5

1:32pm Sat 15 Mar 14

LSC says...

"The order prevents Khan from being in possession of more than £2,000 in cash, having more than one bank account, possessing more than two mobile devices, using taxis and he must also notify police of all vehicles he owns."

So all he needs is a mate with a car then. The mate can carry the money, the other pay-as-you-go phone, open a bank account and drive him about.
It hardly takes the genius of a Bond villain to get around this!
Add to that there are hardly any police in Bushey anyway, I think he will be back at work quite soon.
"The order prevents Khan from being in possession of more than £2,000 in cash, having more than one bank account, possessing more than two mobile devices, using taxis and he must also notify police of all vehicles he owns." So all he needs is a mate with a car then. The mate can carry the money, the other pay-as-you-go phone, open a bank account and drive him about. It hardly takes the genius of a Bond villain to get around this! Add to that there are hardly any police in Bushey anyway, I think he will be back at work quite soon. LSC
  • Score: 4

2:25pm Sat 15 Mar 14

LocalBoy1 says...

LSC wrote:
"The order prevents Khan from being in possession of more than £2,000 in cash, having more than one bank account, possessing more than two mobile devices, using taxis and he must also notify police of all vehicles he owns."

So all he needs is a mate with a car then. The mate can carry the money, the other pay-as-you-go phone, open a bank account and drive him about.
It hardly takes the genius of a Bond villain to get around this!
Add to that there are hardly any police in Bushey anyway, I think he will be back at work quite soon.
My thoughts exactly.... Hence my comment "I'll be back" meaning of course he will be back...
[quote][p][bold]LSC[/bold] wrote: "The order prevents Khan from being in possession of more than £2,000 in cash, having more than one bank account, possessing more than two mobile devices, using taxis and he must also notify police of all vehicles he owns." So all he needs is a mate with a car then. The mate can carry the money, the other pay-as-you-go phone, open a bank account and drive him about. It hardly takes the genius of a Bond villain to get around this! Add to that there are hardly any police in Bushey anyway, I think he will be back at work quite soon.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly.... Hence my comment "I'll be back" meaning of course he will be back... LocalBoy1
  • Score: 1

9:37pm Sat 15 Mar 14

P Doherty says...

CaptainPC wrote:
All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.
Are you **** kidding?!! "all they were doing was selling drugs" - rumor has it that this dirty **** was the biggest dealer in Watford and surrounding areas!
You wouldn't happen to be one of his bums would you? No other logical explanation....
[quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.[/p][/quote]Are you **** kidding?!! "all they were doing was selling drugs" - rumor has it that this dirty **** was the biggest dealer in Watford and surrounding areas! You wouldn't happen to be one of his bums would you? No other logical explanation.... P Doherty
  • Score: 4

12:02am Sun 16 Mar 14

"Stay calm" says...

Ha ha he Traveller Tom, you seem to know a lot about the family...instead of hiding behind your fake name why not confront certain family members and say your piece...you seem to want to make this personal.
Ha ha he Traveller Tom, you seem to know a lot about the family...instead of hiding behind your fake name why not confront certain family members and say your piece...you seem to want to make this personal. "Stay calm"
  • Score: -4

12:11am Sun 16 Mar 14

"Stay calm" says...

As for you P. Doherty...With your toilet mouth...you need to grow up...And when you have grown a pair of balls say it to his face...otherwise both you and your boyfriend Traveller Tom are just 2 lonely nobody's who will never have a voice.
Still laughing at your comments ha ha he!!!!
As for you P. Doherty...With your toilet mouth...you need to grow up...And when you have grown a pair of balls say it to his face...otherwise both you and your boyfriend Traveller Tom are just 2 lonely nobody's who will never have a voice. Still laughing at your comments ha ha he!!!! "Stay calm"
  • Score: -4

12:18am Sun 16 Mar 14

Traveller Tom McD says...

"Stay calm" wrote:
Ha ha he Traveller Tom, you seem to know a lot about the family...instead of hiding behind your fake name why not confront certain family members and say your piece...you seem to want to make this personal.
Oh dear, we have one of hippos joeys. So are you peddling his poison on the streets while he is locked up? I dont hear you condemning his criminal behaviour which destroys families snd society as a whole. So lets hear it Joey? Is this guy a career criminal or a hero for you to butt kiss? Tell us what you think...and as for confronting you or his family, I answer the door to anyone, especially hero worshippers like you. Stay within the law you and your master...thank you.
[quote][p][bold]"Stay calm"[/bold] wrote: Ha ha he Traveller Tom, you seem to know a lot about the family...instead of hiding behind your fake name why not confront certain family members and say your piece...you seem to want to make this personal.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, we have one of hippos joeys. So are you peddling his poison on the streets while he is locked up? I dont hear you condemning his criminal behaviour which destroys families snd society as a whole. So lets hear it Joey? Is this guy a career criminal or a hero for you to butt kiss? Tell us what you think...and as for confronting you or his family, I answer the door to anyone, especially hero worshippers like you. Stay within the law you and your master...thank you. Traveller Tom McD
  • Score: 5

12:45am Sun 16 Mar 14

"Stay calm" says...

Ha ha he Traveller Tom...just as I thought...your the 1 that made this personal so until you crawl from out your pit, then you are simply a "nobody", also as for you upsetting anyone...think again as your bogas comments mean nothing...just a sad lonely human who thinks he's smart...oh before you wanna act like the big man about your doing being open to any1,the least you can do is post ur address!
Ha ha he Traveller Tom...just as I thought...your the 1 that made this personal so until you crawl from out your pit, then you are simply a "nobody", also as for you upsetting anyone...think again as your bogas comments mean nothing...just a sad lonely human who thinks he's smart...oh before you wanna act like the big man about your doing being open to any1,the least you can do is post ur address! "Stay calm"
  • Score: -3

1:05am Sun 16 Mar 14

comments says...

"Stay calm" wrote:
Ha ha he Traveller Tom...just as I thought...your the 1 that made this personal so until you crawl from out your pit, then you are simply a "nobody", also as for you upsetting anyone...think again as your bogas comments mean nothing...just a sad lonely human who thinks he's smart...oh before you wanna act like the big man about your doing being open to any1,the least you can do is post ur address!
Blah blah blah! Post your address!? Are you like 12 or something?
You blatantly sound like one of his mates or perhaps even naughty boy himself. Either way you are a sad individual who is clearly defending a drug dealing scumbag.
I pity you!
Get a life you keyboard warrior! The comments section is for people to express their views. So don't go giving it large ones you Trollop
[quote][p][bold]"Stay calm"[/bold] wrote: Ha ha he Traveller Tom...just as I thought...your the 1 that made this personal so until you crawl from out your pit, then you are simply a "nobody", also as for you upsetting anyone...think again as your bogas comments mean nothing...just a sad lonely human who thinks he's smart...oh before you wanna act like the big man about your doing being open to any1,the least you can do is post ur address![/p][/quote]Blah blah blah! Post your address!? Are you like 12 or something? You blatantly sound like one of his mates or perhaps even naughty boy himself. Either way you are a sad individual who is clearly defending a drug dealing scumbag. I pity you! Get a life you keyboard warrior! The comments section is for people to express their views. So don't go giving it large ones you Trollop comments
  • Score: 3

1:25am Sun 16 Mar 14

"Stay calm" says...

Like I sad you sad little person, your asking if I'm 12...please go back and read your pathetic comments...your the 1 that got personal I am simply replying back to that, let's not get it twisted. I wouldn't give you or your boyfriend the time of day. Hence why I'm not buying into your trash comments. Only pointing out the obvious..you are entitled to your opinion on the story...but this does not give you the green light to offend family members with what you seem to believe is true...people like you make me sick. So once again for the very last time, if you have a problem which you clearly do,stop hiding and step forward otherwise in my eyes you are still and will always be a nobody!
Like I sad you sad little person, your asking if I'm 12...please go back and read your pathetic comments...your the 1 that got personal I am simply replying back to that, let's not get it twisted. I wouldn't give you or your boyfriend the time of day. Hence why I'm not buying into your trash comments. Only pointing out the obvious..you are entitled to your opinion on the story...but this does not give you the green light to offend family members with what you seem to believe is true...people like you make me sick. So once again for the very last time, if you have a problem which you clearly do,stop hiding and step forward otherwise in my eyes you are still and will always be a nobody! "Stay calm"
  • Score: -2

1:26am Sun 16 Mar 14

Traveller Tom McD says...

"Stay calm" wrote:
Ha ha he Traveller Tom...just as I thought...your the 1 that made this personal so until you crawl from out your pit, then you are simply a "nobody", also as for you upsetting anyone...think again as your bogas comments mean nothing...just a sad lonely human who thinks he's smart...oh before you wanna act like the big man about your doing being open to any1,the least you can do is post ur address!
First of all you uneducated peasant, the correct spelling 'bogus' Why aren't you condemning this poor excuse of a human who sells illegal and life destroying substances? I will upset you later i'm sure but for now, I want you to confirm your views on this scum, does he deserve to be in jail or not? Simple question even for you....
Also if publishing your address makes you a big shot, then show you have a pair and publish yours 'big' man though I suspect you are just good for carrying designer purses for porky.
Ps why is this personal for you? Are you a relative or a general dogsbody?
[quote][p][bold]"Stay calm"[/bold] wrote: Ha ha he Traveller Tom...just as I thought...your the 1 that made this personal so until you crawl from out your pit, then you are simply a "nobody", also as for you upsetting anyone...think again as your bogas comments mean nothing...just a sad lonely human who thinks he's smart...oh before you wanna act like the big man about your doing being open to any1,the least you can do is post ur address![/p][/quote]First of all you uneducated peasant, the correct spelling 'bogus' Why aren't you condemning this poor excuse of a human who sells illegal and life destroying substances? I will upset you later i'm sure but for now, I want you to confirm your views on this scum, does he deserve to be in jail or not? Simple question even for you.... Also if publishing your address makes you a big shot, then show you have a pair and publish yours 'big' man though I suspect you are just good for carrying designer purses for porky. Ps why is this personal for you? Are you a relative or a general dogsbody? Traveller Tom McD
  • Score: 3

1:35am Sun 16 Mar 14

comments says...

"Stay calm" wrote:
Like I sad you sad little person, your asking if I'm 12...please go back and read your pathetic comments...your the 1 that got personal I am simply replying back to that, let's not get it twisted. I wouldn't give you or your boyfriend the time of day. Hence why I'm not buying into your trash comments. Only pointing out the obvious..you are entitled to your opinion on the story...but this does not give you the green light to offend family members with what you seem to believe is true...people like you make me sick. So once again for the very last time, if you have a problem which you clearly do,stop hiding and step forward otherwise in my eyes you are still and will always be a nobody!
My boyfriend? What are you talking about you excuse for a human being!
[quote][p][bold]"Stay calm"[/bold] wrote: Like I sad you sad little person, your asking if I'm 12...please go back and read your pathetic comments...your the 1 that got personal I am simply replying back to that, let's not get it twisted. I wouldn't give you or your boyfriend the time of day. Hence why I'm not buying into your trash comments. Only pointing out the obvious..you are entitled to your opinion on the story...but this does not give you the green light to offend family members with what you seem to believe is true...people like you make me sick. So once again for the very last time, if you have a problem which you clearly do,stop hiding and step forward otherwise in my eyes you are still and will always be a nobody![/p][/quote]My boyfriend? What are you talking about you excuse for a human being! comments
  • Score: 2

1:49am Sun 16 Mar 14

"Stay calm" says...

Someone like you can never upset me and please don't try play the smart "boy" now after your first comment...your far from it...you carry on little man. Your the one that got personal...or you too thick to understand that...you seem to class yourself as a highly educated being then why scoop so low. As I believe your first comment was about the family, but yet now your making out you care about society...my message to you is very simple and clear leave the family out of your useless comments. Maybe find a hobby and get rid of some of that hate you have as it's only making you come across as a sad bitter twisted individual. Just remember you started this not me...
Someone like you can never upset me and please don't try play the smart "boy" now after your first comment...your far from it...you carry on little man. Your the one that got personal...or you too thick to understand that...you seem to class yourself as a highly educated being then why scoop so low. As I believe your first comment was about the family, but yet now your making out you care about society...my message to you is very simple and clear leave the family out of your useless comments. Maybe find a hobby and get rid of some of that hate you have as it's only making you come across as a sad bitter twisted individual. Just remember you started this not me... "Stay calm"
  • Score: -2

12:04pm Sun 16 Mar 14

HermanGoering says...

LSC wrote:
"The order prevents Khan from being in possession of more than £2,000 in cash, having more than one bank account, possessing more than two mobile devices, using taxis and he must also notify police of all vehicles he owns."

So all he needs is a mate with a car then. The mate can carry the money, the other pay-as-you-go phone, open a bank account and drive him about.
It hardly takes the genius of a Bond villain to get around this!
Add to that there are hardly any police in Bushey anyway, I think he will be back at work quite soon.
Yeah or if the law wasn't so biased against certain businesses he could just go about his business anyway.
They used to be like this about bookmakers and homosexuals but they legalised them. Has this worsened the problems faced by customers?

I'm not a homosexual so I don't know about their experience, but If I do £5000 on credit to Ladbrokes and refuse to pay I wold be confident of my legs not breaking.

Also the fella is in prison so he's probably not going to be around for a while.

Also why is it, when someone gets convicted and I safely out the way everyone pops out to say what a scumbag they are.....

You get the society you deserve and by taking no part you are owed no part.
[quote][p][bold]LSC[/bold] wrote: "The order prevents Khan from being in possession of more than £2,000 in cash, having more than one bank account, possessing more than two mobile devices, using taxis and he must also notify police of all vehicles he owns." So all he needs is a mate with a car then. The mate can carry the money, the other pay-as-you-go phone, open a bank account and drive him about. It hardly takes the genius of a Bond villain to get around this! Add to that there are hardly any police in Bushey anyway, I think he will be back at work quite soon.[/p][/quote]Yeah or if the law wasn't so biased against certain businesses he could just go about his business anyway. They used to be like this about bookmakers and homosexuals but they legalised them. Has this worsened the problems faced by customers? I'm not a homosexual so I don't know about their experience, but If I do £5000 on credit to Ladbrokes and refuse to pay I wold be confident of my legs not breaking. Also the fella is in prison so he's probably not going to be around for a while. Also why is it, when someone gets convicted and I safely out the way everyone pops out to say what a scumbag they are..... You get the society you deserve and by taking no part you are owed no part. HermanGoering
  • Score: 2

1:11pm Sun 16 Mar 14

LSC says...

I don't think homosexuality is exactly a business, so perhaps it isn't the best analogy.
But bookmaking is a comparable one, because gambling can ruin lives or give a lot of people a bit of pleasure. Not me, I always lose, so don't see the fun in it at all, and feel the same about drugs.
But if you made drugs legal, do you think this chap would become a legit businessman? Pay his taxes on time, keep his accounts in order, register at Companies House?
I don't think homosexuality is exactly a business, so perhaps it isn't the best analogy. But bookmaking is a comparable one, because gambling can ruin lives or give a lot of people a bit of pleasure. Not me, I always lose, so don't see the fun in it at all, and feel the same about drugs. But if you made drugs legal, do you think this chap would become a legit businessman? Pay his taxes on time, keep his accounts in order, register at Companies House? LSC
  • Score: 1

1:19pm Sun 16 Mar 14

"Stay calm" says...

Traveller Tom The big voice behind his or her keyboard...I can't be bothered with repeating myself to you as your comments are so boring now. If you have something to say do it face to face. You seem to have a lot to say so come out your hole. Otherwise in my eyes your nothing but a bully who's too p***y and finds comfort in knowing you can hide behind your screen.
Traveller Tom The big voice behind his or her keyboard...I can't be bothered with repeating myself to you as your comments are so boring now. If you have something to say do it face to face. You seem to have a lot to say so come out your hole. Otherwise in my eyes your nothing but a bully who's too p***y and finds comfort in knowing you can hide behind your screen. "Stay calm"
  • Score: -4

1:30pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Traveller Tom McD says...

So you are condoning his actions ? You are scum just like him. This bravado and keyboard warrior claptrap is not relevant right now, you are supporting an evil trade, probably a family trade on your case. Get a proper job for you and your relatives and pay taxes. Although you say you dont want to repeat yourself, the p*ssyhole you are, you will come back to bore me and others. Tell us your view on this drug dealer and then worry about your false bravado.
So you are condoning his actions ? You are scum just like him. This bravado and keyboard warrior claptrap is not relevant right now, you are supporting an evil trade, probably a family trade on your case. Get a proper job for you and your relatives and pay taxes. Although you say you dont want to repeat yourself, the p*ssyhole you are, you will come back to bore me and others. Tell us your view on this drug dealer and then worry about your false bravado. Traveller Tom McD
  • Score: 5

1:55pm Sun 16 Mar 14

"Stay calm" says...

Maybe Traveller Tom should change his or her name to "God" as it's crystal clear he thinks he's on some sort of pedi stool...so let's get rid of all the scum in our town, then were left with low life's like him!!! Gosh....my guess is he has no friends.
Maybe Traveller Tom should change his or her name to "God" as it's crystal clear he thinks he's on some sort of pedi stool...so let's get rid of all the scum in our town, then were left with low life's like him!!! Gosh....my guess is he has no friends. "Stay calm"
  • Score: -6

1:56pm Sun 16 Mar 14

LocalBoy1 says...

CaptainPC wrote:
All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.
You keep saying "All he was doing?" as if it's a minor offence. Selling class A drugs is NOT a minor offence, hence prison!!!!. So I will repeat a comment I made earlier to another commenter. "No you're not being too harsh. Drug dealing scum is exactly what Omar Khan is.... Perhaps Khan should have been made to visit a rehab clinic to see the damage his drugs cause, or a hospital where nasal resectioning is carried out to repair the damage done from snorting his drugs... He will I am sure breach his SCPO and I for one would delight in seeing him back inside for five years!"
[quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.[/p][/quote]You keep saying "All he was doing?" as if it's a minor offence. Selling class A drugs is NOT a minor offence, hence prison!!!!. So I will repeat a comment I made earlier to another commenter. "No you're not being too harsh. Drug dealing scum is exactly what Omar Khan is.... Perhaps Khan should have been made to visit a rehab clinic to see the damage his drugs cause, or a hospital where nasal resectioning is carried out to repair the damage done from snorting his drugs... He will I am sure breach his SCPO and I for one would delight in seeing him back inside for five years!" LocalBoy1
  • Score: 5

6:31pm Sun 16 Mar 14

LocalBoy1 says...

Traveller Tom McD wrote:
"Stay calm" wrote:
Maybe Traveller Tom should change his or her name to "God" as it's crystal clear he thinks he's on some sort of pedi stool...so let's get rid of all the scum in our town, then were left with low life's like him!!! Gosh....my guess is he has no friends.
Oh look he is back...I think you meant pedestal ? I have no friends ? Not so long ago I had a boyfriend according to you so how do you guess against your own opinion? Anyway, why are you avoiding the subject little boy? Do you agree with what this guy/your relative does yes or no? The way you are defending him im guessing you are married to his well built sister... Forget about ridding him from the town, scum like him should be off the planet..
Come on GIRLS, lets get back on topic.... "Drug-dealer banned from owning two phones or using a taxi"..... Your catty mud slinging belongs on Facebook, not here!
[quote][p][bold]Traveller Tom McD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]"Stay calm"[/bold] wrote: Maybe Traveller Tom should change his or her name to "God" as it's crystal clear he thinks he's on some sort of pedi stool...so let's get rid of all the scum in our town, then were left with low life's like him!!! Gosh....my guess is he has no friends.[/p][/quote]Oh look he is back...I think you meant pedestal ? I have no friends ? Not so long ago I had a boyfriend according to you so how do you guess against your own opinion? Anyway, why are you avoiding the subject little boy? Do you agree with what this guy/your relative does yes or no? The way you are defending him im guessing you are married to his well built sister... Forget about ridding him from the town, scum like him should be off the planet..[/p][/quote]Come on GIRLS, lets get back on topic.... "Drug-dealer banned from owning two phones or using a taxi"..... Your catty mud slinging belongs on Facebook, not here! LocalBoy1
  • Score: 2

6:35pm Sun 16 Mar 14

comments says...

HermanGoering wrote:
LSC wrote:
"The order prevents Khan from being in possession of more than £2,000 in cash, having more than one bank account, possessing more than two mobile devices, using taxis and he must also notify police of all vehicles he owns."

So all he needs is a mate with a car then. The mate can carry the money, the other pay-as-you-go phone, open a bank account and drive him about.
It hardly takes the genius of a Bond villain to get around this!
Add to that there are hardly any police in Bushey anyway, I think he will be back at work quite soon.
Yeah or if the law wasn't so biased against certain businesses he could just go about his business anyway.
They used to be like this about bookmakers and homosexuals but they legalised them. Has this worsened the problems faced by customers?

I'm not a homosexual so I don't know about their experience, but If I do £5000 on credit to Ladbrokes and refuse to pay I wold be confident of my legs not breaking.

Also the fella is in prison so he's probably not going to be around for a while.

Also why is it, when someone gets convicted and I safely out the way everyone pops out to say what a scumbag they are.....

You get the society you deserve and by taking no part you are owed no part.
Trust me, I didn't wait till he was out of the way to say what a scumbag he is! I said it all a long, ever since this moron started dealing drugs!
It's just a shame that the **** received such a light sentence!
People like this idiot make other peoples lives a misery. They deserve nothing less than being thrown into prison for a very long time!

Ps the issue with morons like this idiot is that if you confront them or call them a scumbag to their face all they'll do is have a joey like "stay calm" to petrol bomb your house!
[quote][p][bold]HermanGoering[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LSC[/bold] wrote: "The order prevents Khan from being in possession of more than £2,000 in cash, having more than one bank account, possessing more than two mobile devices, using taxis and he must also notify police of all vehicles he owns." So all he needs is a mate with a car then. The mate can carry the money, the other pay-as-you-go phone, open a bank account and drive him about. It hardly takes the genius of a Bond villain to get around this! Add to that there are hardly any police in Bushey anyway, I think he will be back at work quite soon.[/p][/quote]Yeah or if the law wasn't so biased against certain businesses he could just go about his business anyway. They used to be like this about bookmakers and homosexuals but they legalised them. Has this worsened the problems faced by customers? I'm not a homosexual so I don't know about their experience, but If I do £5000 on credit to Ladbrokes and refuse to pay I wold be confident of my legs not breaking. Also the fella is in prison so he's probably not going to be around for a while. Also why is it, when someone gets convicted and I safely out the way everyone pops out to say what a scumbag they are..... You get the society you deserve and by taking no part you are owed no part.[/p][/quote]Trust me, I didn't wait till he was out of the way to say what a scumbag he is! I said it all a long, ever since this moron started dealing drugs! It's just a shame that the **** received such a light sentence! People like this idiot make other peoples lives a misery. They deserve nothing less than being thrown into prison for a very long time! Ps the issue with morons like this idiot is that if you confront them or call them a scumbag to their face all they'll do is have a joey like "stay calm" to petrol bomb your house! comments
  • Score: 7

7:44pm Sun 16 Mar 14

"Stay calm" says...

Traveller Tom your so full of it it's untrue...stay hiding little man it's the best place for you. I don't have to answer any of your questions...yes if only you had stuck to the topic which was my point all along. But no billy big b******s wants to bring the whole family down too...it don't work like that you have no right. So Mr I'm so aware of what goes around in my town...did you ever go to the police with your information or did you just sit on your massive behind and wait for it so then you can do this!!! Like I said Mr no body calm down and leave the family out your crap comments. But really whatever makes you feel better!
Traveller Tom your so full of it it's untrue...stay hiding little man it's the best place for you. I don't have to answer any of your questions...yes if only you had stuck to the topic which was my point all along. But no billy big b******s wants to bring the whole family down too...it don't work like that you have no right. So Mr I'm so aware of what goes around in my town...did you ever go to the police with your information or did you just sit on your massive behind and wait for it so then you can do this!!! Like I said Mr no body calm down and leave the family out your crap comments. But really whatever makes you feel better! "Stay calm"
  • Score: -6

8:33pm Sun 16 Mar 14

"Stay calm" says...

Traveller Tom you are an absolute disgrace to the human race...look at how low you have scooped to. You thrive off your own mindless thoughts...I'm so delighted our town has the likes of you in it. This is my last comment to you as entertaining you is pointless. Bye bye.
Traveller Tom you are an absolute disgrace to the human race...look at how low you have scooped to. You thrive off your own mindless thoughts...I'm so delighted our town has the likes of you in it. This is my last comment to you as entertaining you is pointless. Bye bye. "Stay calm"
  • Score: -4

8:40pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Traveller Tom McD says...

Ok son, mind how you go. Stay away from class A.
Ok son, mind how you go. Stay away from class A. Traveller Tom McD
  • Score: 4

9:29pm Sun 16 Mar 14

HermanGoering says...

He is just a business man. It's just drugs not murder.
He is just a business man. It's just drugs not murder. HermanGoering
  • Score: -11

12:56am Mon 17 Mar 14

LSC says...

HermanGoering wrote:
He is just a business man. It's just drugs not murder.
No, I checked with Companies House. He doesn't appear to be a businessman at all. He appears to be a low life criminal. And with the stuff he sells, what people will do to buy it, and what he might do to reclaim a debt outside the law, I'm rather surprised he doesn't have a few manslaughter charges against him.

But he will. Drug dealers usually do.
[quote][p][bold]HermanGoering[/bold] wrote: He is just a business man. It's just drugs not murder.[/p][/quote]No, I checked with Companies House. He doesn't appear to be a businessman at all. He appears to be a low life criminal. And with the stuff he sells, what people will do to buy it, and what he might do to reclaim a debt outside the law, I'm rather surprised he doesn't have a few manslaughter charges against him. But he will. Drug dealers usually do. LSC
  • Score: 13

4:18pm Tue 18 Mar 14

CaptainPC says...

LocalBoy1 wrote:
CaptainPC wrote:
All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.
You keep saying "All he was doing?" as if it's a minor offence. Selling class A drugs is NOT a minor offence, hence prison!!!!. So I will repeat a comment I made earlier to another commenter. "No you're not being too harsh. Drug dealing scum is exactly what Omar Khan is.... Perhaps Khan should have been made to visit a rehab clinic to see the damage his drugs cause, or a hospital where nasal resectioning is carried out to repair the damage done from snorting his drugs... He will I am sure breach his SCPO and I for one would delight in seeing him back inside for five years!"
I don't think drugs should be illegal.....Geddit..
..
[quote][p][bold]LocalBoy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.[/p][/quote]You keep saying "All he was doing?" as if it's a minor offence. Selling class A drugs is NOT a minor offence, hence prison!!!!. So I will repeat a comment I made earlier to another commenter. "No you're not being too harsh. Drug dealing scum is exactly what Omar Khan is.... Perhaps Khan should have been made to visit a rehab clinic to see the damage his drugs cause, or a hospital where nasal resectioning is carried out to repair the damage done from snorting his drugs... He will I am sure breach his SCPO and I for one would delight in seeing him back inside for five years!"[/p][/quote]I don't think drugs should be illegal.....Geddit.. .. CaptainPC
  • Score: 0

5:20pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Popeonarope says...

CaptainPC wrote:
LocalBoy1 wrote:
CaptainPC wrote:
All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.
You keep saying "All he was doing?" as if it's a minor offence. Selling class A drugs is NOT a minor offence, hence prison!!!!. So I will repeat a comment I made earlier to another commenter. "No you're not being too harsh. Drug dealing scum is exactly what Omar Khan is.... Perhaps Khan should have been made to visit a rehab clinic to see the damage his drugs cause, or a hospital where nasal resectioning is carried out to repair the damage done from snorting his drugs... He will I am sure breach his SCPO and I for one would delight in seeing him back inside for five years!"
I don't think drugs should be illegal.....Geddit..

..
That explains your posts.

Personally i think, these peddlers in misery should be locked up until they say who their supplier is. Repeat this until you reach the top of the chain and confiscate everything they own. Immediate profit!

The attitude that this is a harmless pastime do not understand the damage that can be done to individuals, families and society.
[quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBoy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.[/p][/quote]You keep saying "All he was doing?" as if it's a minor offence. Selling class A drugs is NOT a minor offence, hence prison!!!!. So I will repeat a comment I made earlier to another commenter. "No you're not being too harsh. Drug dealing scum is exactly what Omar Khan is.... Perhaps Khan should have been made to visit a rehab clinic to see the damage his drugs cause, or a hospital where nasal resectioning is carried out to repair the damage done from snorting his drugs... He will I am sure breach his SCPO and I for one would delight in seeing him back inside for five years!"[/p][/quote]I don't think drugs should be illegal.....Geddit.. ..[/p][/quote]That explains your posts. Personally i think, these peddlers in misery should be locked up until they say who their supplier is. Repeat this until you reach the top of the chain and confiscate everything they own. Immediate profit! The attitude that this is a harmless pastime do not understand the damage that can be done to individuals, families and society. Popeonarope
  • Score: 3

1:10pm Wed 19 Mar 14

CaptainPC says...

Popeonarope wrote:
CaptainPC wrote:
LocalBoy1 wrote:
CaptainPC wrote:
All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.
You keep saying "All he was doing?" as if it's a minor offence. Selling class A drugs is NOT a minor offence, hence prison!!!!. So I will repeat a comment I made earlier to another commenter. "No you're not being too harsh. Drug dealing scum is exactly what Omar Khan is.... Perhaps Khan should have been made to visit a rehab clinic to see the damage his drugs cause, or a hospital where nasal resectioning is carried out to repair the damage done from snorting his drugs... He will I am sure breach his SCPO and I for one would delight in seeing him back inside for five years!"
I don't think drugs should be illegal.....Geddit..


..
That explains your posts.

Personally i think, these peddlers in misery should be locked up until they say who their supplier is. Repeat this until you reach the top of the chain and confiscate everything they own. Immediate profit!

The attitude that this is a harmless pastime do not understand the damage that can be done to individuals, families and society.
Do you think that, if there were proper controls and licensing in place, this misery would increase?
[quote][p][bold]Popeonarope[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBoy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainPC[/bold] wrote: All they were doing was sellin drugs-It's not like they were violent. Seems harsh.[/p][/quote]You keep saying "All he was doing?" as if it's a minor offence. Selling class A drugs is NOT a minor offence, hence prison!!!!. So I will repeat a comment I made earlier to another commenter. "No you're not being too harsh. Drug dealing scum is exactly what Omar Khan is.... Perhaps Khan should have been made to visit a rehab clinic to see the damage his drugs cause, or a hospital where nasal resectioning is carried out to repair the damage done from snorting his drugs... He will I am sure breach his SCPO and I for one would delight in seeing him back inside for five years!"[/p][/quote]I don't think drugs should be illegal.....Geddit.. ..[/p][/quote]That explains your posts. Personally i think, these peddlers in misery should be locked up until they say who their supplier is. Repeat this until you reach the top of the chain and confiscate everything they own. Immediate profit! The attitude that this is a harmless pastime do not understand the damage that can be done to individuals, families and society.[/p][/quote]Do you think that, if there were proper controls and licensing in place, this misery would increase? CaptainPC
  • Score: 0

6:53pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Popeonarope says...

Turn that around. Do you think it would decrease with more availability and no risk of prosecution?

I appreciate that there are levels of social drugs as well has the harder kind but people get addicted and ruin lives now with all the risks involved. If you decriminalize cannabis for example, and are allowed to grow plants for personal use i wouldnt protest, but if you sell it to people as a business that then gets complicated. It sends out the wrong message to younger people who are vulnerable to this as they have always been to smoking and alcohol. Additionally stats show cannabis is a stepping stone to stronger kinds of narcotics.
Cocaine, the various amphetamines, opiates etc are far to addictive to qualify for social acceptance; 'They ruin live' is no random quote. Making them all legal and safe would generate an income of course but that would also be offset by an increase in rehabilitation costs and legal costs to defend the decision to allow access to them in the first place.

The individual in this article is not interested in providing a service to his community. He is a drug dealer who defends his turf with intimidation and violence; makes an unethical living off other peoples misery and puts lives at risk, directly and indirectly. The amount of police time in investigating, prosecuting and stopping this crime and all the other crime that hangs off drug dependency is phenomenal and unless you would allow all drugs to be legal this will not change until dealers decide the punishment is not worth the risk. Presently this is not the case.
Turn that around. Do you think it would decrease with more availability and no risk of prosecution? I appreciate that there are levels of social drugs as well has the harder kind but people get addicted and ruin lives now with all the risks involved. If you decriminalize cannabis for example, and are allowed to grow plants for personal use i wouldnt protest, but if you sell it to people as a business that then gets complicated. It sends out the wrong message to younger people who are vulnerable to this as they have always been to smoking and alcohol. Additionally stats show cannabis is a stepping stone to stronger kinds of narcotics. Cocaine, the various amphetamines, opiates etc are far to addictive to qualify for social acceptance; 'They ruin live' is no random quote. Making them all legal and safe would generate an income of course but that would also be offset by an increase in rehabilitation costs and legal costs to defend the decision to allow access to them in the first place. The individual in this article is not interested in providing a service to his community. He is a drug dealer who defends his turf with intimidation and violence; makes an unethical living off other peoples misery and puts lives at risk, directly and indirectly. The amount of police time in investigating, prosecuting and stopping this crime and all the other crime that hangs off drug dependency is phenomenal and unless you would allow all drugs to be legal this will not change until dealers decide the punishment is not worth the risk. Presently this is not the case. Popeonarope
  • Score: 2

11:46am Thu 20 Mar 14

CaptainPC says...

"Turn that around. Do you think it would decrease with more availability and no risk of prosecution?" Yes as I was saying legalise and license not "decriminalise" and turn a blind eye.

"I appreciate that there are levels of social drugs as well has the harder kind but people get addicted and ruin lives now with all the risks involved. If you decriminalize cannabis for example, and are allowed to grow plants for personal use i wouldnt protest, but if you sell it to people as a business that then gets complicated. It sends out the wrong message to younger people who are vulnerable to this as they have always been to smoking and alcohol. Additionally stats show cannabis is a stepping stone to stronger kinds of narcotics.
Cocaine, the various amphetamines, opiates etc are far to addictive to qualify for social acceptance; 'They ruin live' is no random quote. Making them all legal and safe would generate an income of course but that would also be offset by an increase in rehabilitation costs and legal costs to defend the decision to allow access to them in the first place."

Is this true? Up until the 60s the vast majority of Heroin addicts were veterans of WW2 who had become addicted to painkillers as treatments for injuries received fighting for their country. They received a controlled dose, similar to how annti depressants etc are prescribed now. They were not in danger of overdosing on a rogue batch.
Similar goes for Coacaine in that there's no measure on purity so people don't know what they are taking. It's dangerous.

"The individual in this article is not interested in providing a service to his community. He is a drug dealer who defends his turf with intimidation and violence; makes an unethical living off other peoples misery and puts lives at risk, directly and indirectly. The amount of police time in investigating, prosecuting and stopping this crime and all the other crime that hangs off drug dependency is phenomenal and unless you would allow all drugs to be legal this will not change until dealers decide the punishment is not worth the risk. Presently this is not the case."

THis bloke is probably not a nice fella, although I would say protecting your turf in Middle Class suburban towns is probably less viloent than doing so in South London. Thing is if this trade was licensed and people were regulated he wouldn't get a look in, would he? There's be more time for the police to investigate real crime with real victims.
"Turn that around. Do you think it would decrease with more availability and no risk of prosecution?" Yes as I was saying legalise and license not "decriminalise" and turn a blind eye. "I appreciate that there are levels of social drugs as well has the harder kind but people get addicted and ruin lives now with all the risks involved. If you decriminalize cannabis for example, and are allowed to grow plants for personal use i wouldnt protest, but if you sell it to people as a business that then gets complicated. It sends out the wrong message to younger people who are vulnerable to this as they have always been to smoking and alcohol. Additionally stats show cannabis is a stepping stone to stronger kinds of narcotics. Cocaine, the various amphetamines, opiates etc are far to addictive to qualify for social acceptance; 'They ruin live' is no random quote. Making them all legal and safe would generate an income of course but that would also be offset by an increase in rehabilitation costs and legal costs to defend the decision to allow access to them in the first place." Is this true? Up until the 60s the vast majority of Heroin addicts were veterans of WW2 who had become addicted to painkillers as treatments for injuries received fighting for their country. They received a controlled dose, similar to how annti depressants etc are prescribed now. They were not in danger of overdosing on a rogue batch. Similar goes for Coacaine in that there's no measure on purity so people don't know what they are taking. It's dangerous. "The individual in this article is not interested in providing a service to his community. He is a drug dealer who defends his turf with intimidation and violence; makes an unethical living off other peoples misery and puts lives at risk, directly and indirectly. The amount of police time in investigating, prosecuting and stopping this crime and all the other crime that hangs off drug dependency is phenomenal and unless you would allow all drugs to be legal this will not change until dealers decide the punishment is not worth the risk. Presently this is not the case." THis bloke is probably not a nice fella, although I would say protecting your turf in Middle Class suburban towns is probably less viloent than doing so in South London. Thing is if this trade was licensed and people were regulated he wouldn't get a look in, would he? There's be more time for the police to investigate real crime with real victims. CaptainPC
  • Score: 0

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