Residents oppose new Hurling pitch planned for Radlett Road playing fields

Watford Observer: Roz Reeve with other residents angry about the hurling pitch plans. Roz Reeve with other residents angry about the hurling pitch plans.

Central Watford residents have raised flooding, parking and children’s safety concerns over a new Irish sports pitch proposed for the area.

Watford Borough Council has submitted an application for a new Hurling pitch at Radlett Road Playing Fields.

The proposals would involve levelling the existing sports field, filling in pot holes, building a new changing block for 80 people, and providing 18 new parking spaces.

Roz Reeve, who is a member of the The Radlett Road Residents Association, said parking was a "massive" concern.

The association is made up of around 13 neighbours, some of which lost their right to park in front of their homes due to the Reeds Development and the Orphanage Road Roundabout.

Mrs Reeve, a childcare worker, said: "Parking is horrendous and it will be made so much worse.

"There has been mention of 100 spectators for important Hurling games and I do not know where they will all park.

"There was also a bus time table provided suggesting people could travel by bus - despite the W20 not running after 15.03 and not running on a Sunday.

"This proposal is a shame because the park is one where people go to relax and this will be taken over by a sport that isn’t even popular."

Radlett Road Playing Fields are located between the River Colne and Radlett Road, and other residents are concerned about flooding.

Martin Flammia said: "We have residents that have lived here for over 40 years and only recently have they observed flooding. Before then there was more a natural presence in the area to soak up water.

"Adding more development in the area to divert water flow instead of building better preventions is very much a concern.

"We love living in this area, with great neighbours and years of investment into our property and trying to bring up a family, it is a real worry."

Hurling is a fast-paced Gaelic game where player use a stick and broader oval blade.

Mr Flammia’s wife Thelma said she was concerned about her children playing near the fields.

The 33-year-old placement officer added: "I believe there won't be any fencing and how will they protect the residents in the area if a ball is thrown 100 mph then comes flying into my garden or a neighbours - as the corner of the pitch only stops few feet from my garden.

"It will limit my children or other family members being in my garden or around the house just in case a ball comes hurdling towards them."

The council previously submitted an application for the fields, but withdrew it after concerns that flooding issues were not addressed.

Mr Flammia, 40, continued: "The whole proposal has been a mess from the start, with the first application being a complete shambles and rejected just before recent elections, which gave us all a sign of relief, to being reinstated again immediately after with what looks like heavy investment in assessments and glossy brochures."

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9:38pm Thu 3 Jul 14

watfordrick says...

At least its not more flats which in the near future could well be if Dorothy gets her way.
At least its not more flats which in the near future could well be if Dorothy gets her way. watfordrick
  • Score: 1

9:39pm Thu 3 Jul 14

morganwilliam says...

This is discrimination against the ethMicks.
This is discrimination against the ethMicks. morganwilliam
  • Score: -8

10:37pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Watfordengineer says...

So is it popular and will cause traffic problems or unpopular and wont?! I think we should support sport and development like this. it is called community!
So is it popular and will cause traffic problems or unpopular and wont?! I think we should support sport and development like this. it is called community! Watfordengineer
  • Score: 8

11:45pm Thu 3 Jul 14

drunkenduck says...

Didn't know there was any pot holes on Radlett Road playing fields? Thought roads have those, not playing fields...

The 18 new parking spaces will end up been abused by the commuters who will end up using it to train into London or else where. Or travellers who've illegal pitch on the grounds before. So that idea is stupid and where will the entrance, carpark by? Can't be near the railway tunnel, because that will cause an accident and can't have it further up as these a bend and a traffic measurer side island.

And thirdly, what idiot(s) came up with this idea from the council?
Didn't know there was any pot holes on Radlett Road playing fields? Thought roads have those, not playing fields... The 18 new parking spaces will end up been abused by the commuters who will end up using it to train into London or else where. Or travellers who've illegal pitch on the grounds before. So that idea is stupid and where will the entrance, carpark by? Can't be near the railway tunnel, because that will cause an accident and can't have it further up as these a bend and a traffic measurer side island. And thirdly, what idiot(s) came up with this idea from the council? drunkenduck
  • Score: 0

8:13am Fri 4 Jul 14

The Rover says...

This will be to replace the pitch behind the Irish Club on Wiggenhall Road, which has been forced to close to make way for the new Hospital Link Road. Just an idea but as we are not getting a new hospital, why not forget the new link road, and let the Irish have their Irish Club back, complete with Hurling pitch at the rear?
This will be to replace the pitch behind the Irish Club on Wiggenhall Road, which has been forced to close to make way for the new Hospital Link Road. Just an idea but as we are not getting a new hospital, why not forget the new link road, and let the Irish have their Irish Club back, complete with Hurling pitch at the rear? The Rover
  • Score: 18

9:26am Fri 4 Jul 14

Shortcake Biscuit says...

Some people really need to get a life !!!

The fields need improving since the football posts were removed and holes have been left - endangering children and animals ............

Surely this option should be given a chance - 'local residents' didn't want the MUGA (Multi Use Games Area) due to the anti social behaviour and the large groups of children that would hang around and the noise that would be generated. However, this has proved a brilliant idea - always in use and taking the kids and young adults off the streets just 'hanging around' .............

Maybe more local children might take an interest and maybe find a sport they didn't know existed ...................

There's more pressing things the residents association should be getting resolved than this ........
Some people really need to get a life !!! The fields need improving since the football posts were removed and holes have been left - endangering children and animals ............ Surely this option should be given a chance - 'local residents' didn't want the MUGA (Multi Use Games Area) due to the anti social behaviour and the large groups of children that would hang around and the noise that would be generated. However, this has proved a brilliant idea - always in use and taking the kids and young adults off the streets just 'hanging around' ............. Maybe more local children might take an interest and maybe find a sport they didn't know existed ................... There's more pressing things the residents association should be getting resolved than this ........ Shortcake Biscuit
  • Score: 7

9:30am Fri 4 Jul 14

Shortcake Biscuit says...

watfordrick wrote:
At least its not more flats which in the near future could well be if Dorothy gets her way.
Maybe not be flats this time - BUT - I don't see anyone 'Residents Association' complaining about the new flats that have been applied for on the corner of the Reed Estate / Radlett Road estate ........ the flooding and impact would be greater by taking away grassland from here than improving a field down the road ?????
[quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: At least its not more flats which in the near future could well be if Dorothy gets her way.[/p][/quote]Maybe not be flats this time - BUT - I don't see anyone 'Residents Association' complaining about the new flats that have been applied for on the corner of the Reed Estate / Radlett Road estate ........ the flooding and impact would be greater by taking away grassland from here than improving a field down the road ????? Shortcake Biscuit
  • Score: 2

10:36am Fri 4 Jul 14

garston tony says...

Shortcake Biscuit wrote:
Some people really need to get a life !!! The fields need improving since the football posts were removed and holes have been left - endangering children and animals ............ Surely this option should be given a chance - 'local residents' didn't want the MUGA (Multi Use Games Area) due to the anti social behaviour and the large groups of children that would hang around and the noise that would be generated. However, this has proved a brilliant idea - always in use and taking the kids and young adults off the streets just 'hanging around' ............. Maybe more local children might take an interest and maybe find a sport they didn't know existed ................... There's more pressing things the residents association should be getting resolved than this ........
I dont see the problem with these improvements, but if the holes only refer to where the former goal posts where a couple of bags of decent sized earth could sort that out in just a few minutes. Suprised it hasnt been done already
[quote][p][bold]Shortcake Biscuit[/bold] wrote: Some people really need to get a life !!! The fields need improving since the football posts were removed and holes have been left - endangering children and animals ............ Surely this option should be given a chance - 'local residents' didn't want the MUGA (Multi Use Games Area) due to the anti social behaviour and the large groups of children that would hang around and the noise that would be generated. However, this has proved a brilliant idea - always in use and taking the kids and young adults off the streets just 'hanging around' ............. Maybe more local children might take an interest and maybe find a sport they didn't know existed ................... There's more pressing things the residents association should be getting resolved than this ........[/p][/quote]I dont see the problem with these improvements, but if the holes only refer to where the former goal posts where a couple of bags of decent sized earth could sort that out in just a few minutes. Suprised it hasnt been done already garston tony
  • Score: -1

11:47am Fri 4 Jul 14

feliuk says...

The Rover wrote:
This will be to replace the pitch behind the Irish Club on Wiggenhall Road, which has been forced to close to make way for the new Hospital Link Road. Just an idea but as we are not getting a new hospital, why not forget the new link road, and let the Irish have their Irish Club back, complete with Hurling pitch at the rear?
Yes I think most people would agree but alas unfortunately that road will be needed when they build the amount of houses they are planning, hospital or not.
[quote][p][bold]The Rover[/bold] wrote: This will be to replace the pitch behind the Irish Club on Wiggenhall Road, which has been forced to close to make way for the new Hospital Link Road. Just an idea but as we are not getting a new hospital, why not forget the new link road, and let the Irish have their Irish Club back, complete with Hurling pitch at the rear?[/p][/quote]Yes I think most people would agree but alas unfortunately that road will be needed when they build the amount of houses they are planning, hospital or not. feliuk
  • Score: 0

12:48pm Fri 4 Jul 14

TRT says...

The only reason the Irish Club and the hurling team are having to be relocated is down to their field being stolen for a link road. When I've approached the councillors about this, I've been told that from day 1 the Hospital Trust have insisted that there's an upgraded road to link to the M1 - that's an admission that the hospital is simply in the wrong place. The hospital has outgrown the town's infrastructure, pure and simple.
The "health campus" was supposed to include promotion of sports and leisure but what we're getting is leisure facilities being closed so they can be built on, and being shoved into mega-plex out-of-the way places like Paddock Road allotments and Radlett Road fields instead of being distributed throughout the town, close to where people live.
The only reason the Irish Club and the hurling team are having to be relocated is down to their field being stolen for a link road. When I've approached the councillors about this, I've been told that from day 1 the Hospital Trust have insisted that there's an upgraded road to link to the M1 - that's an admission that the hospital is simply in the wrong place. The hospital has outgrown the town's infrastructure, pure and simple. The "health campus" was supposed to include promotion of sports and leisure but what we're getting is leisure facilities being closed so they can be built on, and being shoved into mega-plex out-of-the way places like Paddock Road allotments and Radlett Road fields instead of being distributed throughout the town, close to where people live. TRT
  • Score: 4

1:48pm Fri 4 Jul 14

BazWD24 says...

This is great news, I love a bit of hurling. Bring it on!
Or, give them their old grounds back.
This is great news, I love a bit of hurling. Bring it on! Or, give them their old grounds back. BazWD24
  • Score: 1

2:24pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Shortcake Biscuit says...

garston tony wrote:
Shortcake Biscuit wrote:
Some people really need to get a life !!! The fields need improving since the football posts were removed and holes have been left - endangering children and animals ............ Surely this option should be given a chance - 'local residents' didn't want the MUGA (Multi Use Games Area) due to the anti social behaviour and the large groups of children that would hang around and the noise that would be generated. However, this has proved a brilliant idea - always in use and taking the kids and young adults off the streets just 'hanging around' ............. Maybe more local children might take an interest and maybe find a sport they didn't know existed ................... There's more pressing things the residents association should be getting resolved than this ........
I dont see the problem with these improvements, but if the holes only refer to where the former goal posts where a couple of bags of decent sized earth could sort that out in just a few minutes. Suprised it hasnt been done already
The park itself is very uneven - how they played football on it without the ball rolling back down the little hills I don't know - I think the whole playing may have to be leveled off -

Lets hope it's not the same company that was given the contract for the Rugby pitches though up the road or that will stop the Hurling going ahead before they even start .......
[quote][p][bold]garston tony[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shortcake Biscuit[/bold] wrote: Some people really need to get a life !!! The fields need improving since the football posts were removed and holes have been left - endangering children and animals ............ Surely this option should be given a chance - 'local residents' didn't want the MUGA (Multi Use Games Area) due to the anti social behaviour and the large groups of children that would hang around and the noise that would be generated. However, this has proved a brilliant idea - always in use and taking the kids and young adults off the streets just 'hanging around' ............. Maybe more local children might take an interest and maybe find a sport they didn't know existed ................... There's more pressing things the residents association should be getting resolved than this ........[/p][/quote]I dont see the problem with these improvements, but if the holes only refer to where the former goal posts where a couple of bags of decent sized earth could sort that out in just a few minutes. Suprised it hasnt been done already[/p][/quote]The park itself is very uneven - how they played football on it without the ball rolling back down the little hills I don't know - I think the whole playing may have to be leveled off - Lets hope it's not the same company that was given the contract for the Rugby pitches though up the road or that will stop the Hurling going ahead before they even start ....... Shortcake Biscuit
  • Score: 1

6:10pm Fri 4 Jul 14

WatfordAlex says...

TRT wrote:
The only reason the Irish Club and the hurling team are having to be relocated is down to their field being stolen for a link road. When I've approached the councillors about this, I've been told that from day 1 the Hospital Trust have insisted that there's an upgraded road to link to the M1 - that's an admission that the hospital is simply in the wrong place. The hospital has outgrown the town's infrastructure, pure and simple.
The "health campus" was supposed to include promotion of sports and leisure but what we're getting is leisure facilities being closed so they can be built on, and being shoved into mega-plex out-of-the way places like Paddock Road allotments and Radlett Road fields instead of being distributed throughout the town, close to where people live.
Not sure that is entirely fair. Presumably the field they currently play in is a public park owned by the Council, so it's hardly being 'stolen' from them as they don't own it in the first place. In practical terms it sounds like a sports club is moving from one large bit of grass to another one. Strictly speaking Radlett Road is closer to Watford Junction, so is arguably more accessible (Irish sport probably attracts people from a fairly wide catchment area).
[quote][p][bold]TRT[/bold] wrote: The only reason the Irish Club and the hurling team are having to be relocated is down to their field being stolen for a link road. When I've approached the councillors about this, I've been told that from day 1 the Hospital Trust have insisted that there's an upgraded road to link to the M1 - that's an admission that the hospital is simply in the wrong place. The hospital has outgrown the town's infrastructure, pure and simple. The "health campus" was supposed to include promotion of sports and leisure but what we're getting is leisure facilities being closed so they can be built on, and being shoved into mega-plex out-of-the way places like Paddock Road allotments and Radlett Road fields instead of being distributed throughout the town, close to where people live.[/p][/quote]Not sure that is entirely fair. Presumably the field they currently play in is a public park owned by the Council, so it's hardly being 'stolen' from them as they don't own it in the first place. In practical terms it sounds like a sports club is moving from one large bit of grass to another one. Strictly speaking Radlett Road is closer to Watford Junction, so is arguably more accessible (Irish sport probably attracts people from a fairly wide catchment area). WatfordAlex
  • Score: 0

6:19pm Fri 4 Jul 14

WatfordAlex says...

drunkenduck wrote:
Didn't know there was any pot holes on Radlett Road playing fields? Thought roads have those, not playing fields...

The 18 new parking spaces will end up been abused by the commuters who will end up using it to train into London or else where. Or travellers who've illegal pitch on the grounds before. So that idea is stupid and where will the entrance, carpark by? Can't be near the railway tunnel, because that will cause an accident and can't have it further up as these a bend and a traffic measurer side island.

And thirdly, what idiot(s) came up with this idea from the council?
Presumably there will be parking restrictions to stop all day commuter parking - it's not exactly uncommon to manage car parks around here is it? Can't see any relevance to travellers, who could just as easily stop in the other car parks further up Radlett Road that are already in place. According to the plans online, the new building and car park will be on the overgrown bit of concrete where there used to be a garage many years ago, which already has an access point.
[quote][p][bold]drunkenduck[/bold] wrote: Didn't know there was any pot holes on Radlett Road playing fields? Thought roads have those, not playing fields... The 18 new parking spaces will end up been abused by the commuters who will end up using it to train into London or else where. Or travellers who've illegal pitch on the grounds before. So that idea is stupid and where will the entrance, carpark by? Can't be near the railway tunnel, because that will cause an accident and can't have it further up as these a bend and a traffic measurer side island. And thirdly, what idiot(s) came up with this idea from the council?[/p][/quote]Presumably there will be parking restrictions to stop all day commuter parking - it's not exactly uncommon to manage car parks around here is it? Can't see any relevance to travellers, who could just as easily stop in the other car parks further up Radlett Road that are already in place. According to the plans online, the new building and car park will be on the overgrown bit of concrete where there used to be a garage many years ago, which already has an access point. WatfordAlex
  • Score: 3

1:08pm Mon 7 Jul 14

sambora says...

This is NIMBYism at its worst - NOT IN MY BACKYARD!!!! Radlett Road Playing Fields - with the emphasis on playing fields - the playing of sport. They were used by my kids (now grown up) for football but the playing surface is awful. It needs completely relevelling and Ive looked at the plans and the changing pavillion is on a concrete and derelict site infested with Japanese knotweed set well away from the NIMBY's!! They cant even see it, and as for flooding??? its a pitch!! how will that worsen flooding. Would the residents complain if it was football on there? Sports users deserve decent facilities and that means a decent pitch and a decent changing room. Glen Rovers have been in Watford decades and are a good club. They are being moved not of their own choice and we should be thankful there is space to do this!! We should be encouraging sport in Watford not restricting it - arent we all getting more obsese and arent we meant to be getting off our backsides to get fitter..... not if its in my backyard..... GET A LIFE!!!
This is NIMBYism at its worst - NOT IN MY BACKYARD!!!! Radlett Road Playing Fields - with the emphasis on playing fields - the playing of sport. They were used by my kids (now grown up) for football but the playing surface is awful. It needs completely relevelling and Ive looked at the plans and the changing pavillion is on a concrete and derelict site infested with Japanese knotweed set well away from the NIMBY's!! They cant even see it, and as for flooding??? its a pitch!! how will that worsen flooding. Would the residents complain if it was football on there? Sports users deserve decent facilities and that means a decent pitch and a decent changing room. Glen Rovers have been in Watford decades and are a good club. They are being moved not of their own choice and we should be thankful there is space to do this!! We should be encouraging sport in Watford not restricting it - arent we all getting more obsese and arent we meant to be getting off our backsides to get fitter..... not if its in my backyard..... GET A LIFE!!! sambora
  • Score: 0
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