Controlled parking plans in St Albans Road junked by overwhelming opposition

Controlled parking plans in St Albans Road junked by overwhelming opposition

Controlled parking plans in St Albans Road junked by overwhelming opposition

First published in News Watford Observer: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Reporter

Proposals to bring in controlled parking around St Albans Road in Watford have been junked after running into overwhelming opposition from people in the area.
 
Watford Council’s ruling Liberal Democrat cabinet voted last week to ditch the plans for a residents’ parking scheme following the results of the consultation held earlier this year.

Council officials said that it was clear from the results there was not widespread support for the measure.

Yet councillors agreed to investigate specific areas further to see if smaller scale restrictions could help ease problems. 

At the meeting on Wednesday, Councillor Steve Johnson, the portfolio holder for housing, said: "It was a very long consultation and quite painful and it had a clear message: they don’t want it."

Proposals for a controlled parking zone around St Albans Road were initially looked at in 2007 and then dismissed due to a lack of support from people living in the area.

Then last year Green councillors for Callowland said they had spoken to residents who wanted permit parking introduced and requested a survey from the cabinet.

An initial survey of residents in the area found some were having parking problems. So officials then decided to look at introducing a residents parking scheme for the area.

In a report to the cabinet, officers said the reaction had been so negative that they were recommending dropping the scheme.

However officials also recommended that the council investigate parking problem hotspots to see if extra restrictions should be introduced.

Hertfordshire County Council is also being asked to look into introducing more one way roads around St Albans Road area.

Iain Sharpe, portfolio holder for regeneration and development, said the consultation provoked a "lively heated debate" in the area. 

He said: "I think it clarified something: that there are a small number of roads near Watford Junction where perhaps permit parking may be a solution. But that problem is commuter parking."

The Oxhey representative also warned setting up a controlled parking zone in a small area would only move the problem elsewhere.

 

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12:30pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Veritas says...

"Iain Sharpe, portfolio holder for regeneration and development"

Is this the Wife of the Current Mayor Dotty?

His title should be, Head of Spoiling/Ruining Watford!!

You mean like regenerating the Pond area, does he not know how to
Spend Money to improve things?

You mean "ove Development," Before you give Permission for Developing is it not Common sense and Prudent to ensure you have
enough amenities for all the residents,

The fool has been short sighted over many years,
"Iain Sharpe, portfolio holder for regeneration and development" Is this the Wife of the Current Mayor Dotty? His title should be, Head of Spoiling/Ruining Watford!! You mean like regenerating the Pond area, does he not know how to Spend Money to improve things? You mean "ove Development," Before you give Permission for Developing is it not Common sense and Prudent to ensure you have enough amenities for all the residents, The fool has been short sighted over many years, Veritas
  • Score: 0

12:43pm Mon 28 Jul 14

inayellowshirt says...

It was doomed for failure. Anyone who looked at the proposals will have noticed that they were also REMOVING a large number of current parking areas so would have been foolish to vote it through as things would have got worse.
It was doomed for failure. Anyone who looked at the proposals will have noticed that they were also REMOVING a large number of current parking areas so would have been foolish to vote it through as things would have got worse. inayellowshirt
  • Score: 5

12:47pm Mon 28 Jul 14

D_Penn says...

I lived in Cromer Road off the St Albans Road for eight years and in that relatively short space of time it went from being an easy road to park in to becoming very difficult. That was over twenty years ago, so I can only imagine how impossible it must be at times now.

Of course, this problem is endemic across Watford. What is really needed is for some land to be given over to parking for local residents.

Land is short, but when it does become available, it would be quite possible to create a few small car parks which, while not helping people park outside their homes, would at least provide much needed overflow parking. However, when any land becomes available it is always, always, built on by developers with full council support making parking problems worse for locals, not better.

For example, wouldn't it be nice if say, the closed Verulam Arms pub were not converted to flats but bough by the council to be used to create more parking for residents and those using the local shops? It wouldn't happen though.

The problem is there is no political will to address the parking issue properly. If there were, we would have seen each new large development across Watford have mini-multi storey car parks built to ensure plenty of parking. That is never done because it doesn't earn as much money as sqeezing in extra flats.

The result is that parking just gets worse year after year and causes misery for those who live in the most densley packed parts of Watford. A decent council would have sorted this problem out years ago, but they have all been more interested in collecting money than looking after local residents.
I lived in Cromer Road off the St Albans Road for eight years and in that relatively short space of time it went from being an easy road to park in to becoming very difficult. That was over twenty years ago, so I can only imagine how impossible it must be at times now. Of course, this problem is endemic across Watford. What is really needed is for some land to be given over to parking for local residents. Land is short, but when it does become available, it would be quite possible to create a few small car parks which, while not helping people park outside their homes, would at least provide much needed overflow parking. However, when any land becomes available it is always, always, built on by developers with full council support making parking problems worse for locals, not better. For example, wouldn't it be nice if say, the closed Verulam Arms pub were not converted to flats but bough by the council to be used to create more parking for residents and those using the local shops? It wouldn't happen though. The problem is there is no political will to address the parking issue properly. If there were, we would have seen each new large development across Watford have mini-multi storey car parks built to ensure plenty of parking. That is never done because it doesn't earn as much money as sqeezing in extra flats. The result is that parking just gets worse year after year and causes misery for those who live in the most densley packed parts of Watford. A decent council would have sorted this problem out years ago, but they have all been more interested in collecting money than looking after local residents. D_Penn
  • Score: 0

1:12pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Shortcake Biscuit says...

The only way to resolve the 'parking issues' for Watford residents will be to introduce a Park & Ride for commuters and town centre workers. Unless this is introduced, as stated the problems will just move from area to area ...... However we know this won't happen as it was given up on years ago.......
The only way to resolve the 'parking issues' for Watford residents will be to introduce a Park & Ride for commuters and town centre workers. Unless this is introduced, as stated the problems will just move from area to area ...... However we know this won't happen as it was given up on years ago....... Shortcake Biscuit
  • Score: 4

2:27pm Mon 28 Jul 14

TRT says...

D_Penn wrote:
I lived in Cromer Road off the St Albans Road for eight years and in that relatively short space of time it went from being an easy road to park in to becoming very difficult. That was over twenty years ago, so I can only imagine how impossible it must be at times now.

Of course, this problem is endemic across Watford. What is really needed is for some land to be given over to parking for local residents.

Land is short, but when it does become available, it would be quite possible to create a few small car parks which, while not helping people park outside their homes, would at least provide much needed overflow parking. However, when any land becomes available it is always, always, built on by developers with full council support making parking problems worse for locals, not better.

For example, wouldn't it be nice if say, the closed Verulam Arms pub were not converted to flats but bough by the council to be used to create more parking for residents and those using the local shops? It wouldn't happen though.

The problem is there is no political will to address the parking issue properly. If there were, we would have seen each new large development across Watford have mini-multi storey car parks built to ensure plenty of parking. That is never done because it doesn't earn as much money as sqeezing in extra flats.

The result is that parking just gets worse year after year and causes misery for those who live in the most densley packed parts of Watford. A decent council would have sorted this problem out years ago, but they have all been more interested in collecting money than looking after local residents.
A number of floors of Sutton Road car park was offered to local residents once upon a time to try to reduce the unbelievable level of over-parking in the narrow roads round there. The response? It simply wasn't used. People want to park outside their own front door, simple as that. The fact that they can't because everyone's trying to do the same is just noise.

A possible future development might be some kind of car-ownership-free estate if one sufficiently large and under the control of the council were to appear on the horizon - a partnership with someone like Zip Car, National Car Share or Enterprise Car Share etc. Somewhere where everyone has to abide by the same rules and benefits as a result; safe streets to play in for the kids, unspoilt verges which can be planted without being driven over, no yellow line spaghetti round every street etc. The kind of a thing that a design partnership with the BRE, The Bartlett School, RIBA etc. could deliver.
[quote][p][bold]D_Penn[/bold] wrote: I lived in Cromer Road off the St Albans Road for eight years and in that relatively short space of time it went from being an easy road to park in to becoming very difficult. That was over twenty years ago, so I can only imagine how impossible it must be at times now. Of course, this problem is endemic across Watford. What is really needed is for some land to be given over to parking for local residents. Land is short, but when it does become available, it would be quite possible to create a few small car parks which, while not helping people park outside their homes, would at least provide much needed overflow parking. However, when any land becomes available it is always, always, built on by developers with full council support making parking problems worse for locals, not better. For example, wouldn't it be nice if say, the closed Verulam Arms pub were not converted to flats but bough by the council to be used to create more parking for residents and those using the local shops? It wouldn't happen though. The problem is there is no political will to address the parking issue properly. If there were, we would have seen each new large development across Watford have mini-multi storey car parks built to ensure plenty of parking. That is never done because it doesn't earn as much money as sqeezing in extra flats. The result is that parking just gets worse year after year and causes misery for those who live in the most densley packed parts of Watford. A decent council would have sorted this problem out years ago, but they have all been more interested in collecting money than looking after local residents.[/p][/quote]A number of floors of Sutton Road car park was offered to local residents once upon a time to try to reduce the unbelievable level of over-parking in the narrow roads round there. The response? It simply wasn't used. People want to park outside their own front door, simple as that. The fact that they can't because everyone's trying to do the same is just noise. A possible future development might be some kind of car-ownership-free estate if one sufficiently large and under the control of the council were to appear on the horizon - a partnership with someone like Zip Car, National Car Share or Enterprise Car Share etc. Somewhere where everyone has to abide by the same rules and benefits as a result; safe streets to play in for the kids, unspoilt verges which can be planted without being driven over, no yellow line spaghetti round every street etc. The kind of a thing that a design partnership with the BRE, The Bartlett School, RIBA etc. could deliver. TRT
  • Score: 1

3:24pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Cuetip says...

inayellowshirt wrote:
It was doomed for failure. Anyone who looked at the proposals will have noticed that they were also REMOVING a large number of current parking areas so would have been foolish to vote it through as things would have got worse.
Absolutely

Residents have to be very careful of the mission creep divide and rule strategy as the parking fund 'needs' money to subsidise 'unprofitable' CPZ schemes elsewhere.

Residents in increasingly congested terraced streets are easy cannon fodder for fines and a ready made flow of funds from residential permits but absolutely no guarantee of a parking space.

Conservative Club = High density housing. Verulam Arms = High density housing. 'Callowland Surgery area' = High density housing. Diamond Rd = High density housing. Result = parking crisis which is certainly contrary to the council's aim to enhance the street scene.
[quote][p][bold]inayellowshirt[/bold] wrote: It was doomed for failure. Anyone who looked at the proposals will have noticed that they were also REMOVING a large number of current parking areas so would have been foolish to vote it through as things would have got worse.[/p][/quote]Absolutely Residents have to be very careful of the mission creep divide and rule strategy as the parking fund 'needs' money to subsidise 'unprofitable' CPZ schemes elsewhere. Residents in increasingly congested terraced streets are easy cannon fodder for fines and a ready made flow of funds from residential permits but absolutely no guarantee of a parking space. Conservative Club = High density housing. Verulam Arms = High density housing. 'Callowland Surgery area' = High density housing. Diamond Rd = High density housing. Result = parking crisis which is certainly contrary to the council's aim to enhance the street scene. Cuetip
  • Score: 2

5:16pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Andrew1963 says...

The problem is councils are not motivated to look at schemes to maximise on street parking, in the way off street car parks need to be designed to get a certain number of spaces in a set area. On street space should be designed to maximise resident parking. Off Street parking needs to be looked at, including underground car parks. As said above this needs to be localised, as people want to be able to near their homes when parking. Perhaps bans on company vehicles (vans). At the end of the day when you can buy a decent 3 year old car for £5,000 but a 130 year old 2 up 2 down terraced house costs £300,000, its unlikely we will see a reverse in car ownership in the Victorian core of the town. So someone has to start looking at strategies beyond reducing space on street. Most cars are parked up most of the time, and CPZs only work to deter visitors (shoppers and commuters). All terraced streets struggle for space by about 6pm in the weekdays and earlier at weekends. This is a national problem that to date tries strategies based on denial of the facts. People who live in terraced houses want to own cars as much as people in other types of housing.
The problem is councils are not motivated to look at schemes to maximise on street parking, in the way off street car parks need to be designed to get a certain number of spaces in a set area. On street space should be designed to maximise resident parking. Off Street parking needs to be looked at, including underground car parks. As said above this needs to be localised, as people want to be able to near their homes when parking. Perhaps bans on company vehicles (vans). At the end of the day when you can buy a decent 3 year old car for £5,000 but a 130 year old 2 up 2 down terraced house costs £300,000, its unlikely we will see a reverse in car ownership in the Victorian core of the town. So someone has to start looking at strategies beyond reducing space on street. Most cars are parked up most of the time, and CPZs only work to deter visitors (shoppers and commuters). All terraced streets struggle for space by about 6pm in the weekdays and earlier at weekends. This is a national problem that to date tries strategies based on denial of the facts. People who live in terraced houses want to own cars as much as people in other types of housing. Andrew1963
  • Score: 0

6:15pm Mon 28 Jul 14

samwatford says...

The parking problem emerged in this area as the old Garages on Railway terrace were demolished by the short sighted Liberal Council and new houses were built on the land and passages through Bedford Street and Copsewood road were blocked by putting illegal Gates .

The Callowland survey was flawed as it decreased/wasted the number of parking spaces even during the hours parking restrictions were not in force .
Three streets in Callowland ward which still voted in favour of the parking scheme have been ignored by the Liberal Council.
The Green councillors wanted parking restriction for these streets but the scheme was hijacked by the Liberal council to cover whole of Callowland .
The problem is further compounded by the fact businesses park commercial vans/trucks here and commuters and night clubers going to Central London park vehicles here, instead of paying hefty charges of the Giant London Midland car park which is mostly empty at outside peak hours .
London Midland has also locked the gate on St Albans road parking entrance so motorists cannot get in or out from St Albans road parking entrance to the Watford Junction station forcing commuters to park in this area.
The parking problem emerged in this area as the old Garages on Railway terrace were demolished by the short sighted Liberal Council and new houses were built on the land and passages through Bedford Street and Copsewood road were blocked by putting illegal Gates . The Callowland survey was flawed as it decreased/wasted the number of parking spaces even during the hours parking restrictions were not in force . Three streets in Callowland ward which still voted in favour of the parking scheme have been ignored by the Liberal Council. The Green councillors wanted parking restriction for these streets but the scheme was hijacked by the Liberal council to cover whole of Callowland . The problem is further compounded by the fact businesses park commercial vans/trucks here and commuters and night clubers going to Central London park vehicles here, instead of paying hefty charges of the Giant London Midland car park which is mostly empty at outside peak hours . London Midland has also locked the gate on St Albans road parking entrance so motorists cannot get in or out from St Albans road parking entrance to the Watford Junction station forcing commuters to park in this area. samwatford
  • Score: 2

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