Plans to cut waste site opening hours will lead to flytipping, warn Watford politicians

Plans to cut waste site opening hours will lead to flytipping, warn Watford politicians

Plans to cut waste site opening hours will lead to flytipping, warn Watford politicians

First published in News Watford Observer: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Reporter

Plans to cut the hours of the town’s household waste site by 44 per cent have been slated by Watford politicians who fear it will lead to a dramatic rise in flytipping.

The county council has proposed reducing the opening hours of Waterdale Household Waste and Recycling Centre, including reduced hours at weekends and closure on Thursdays and Fridays.

They have also put forward proposals for the complete closure of the Elstree recycling centre - which has led to concerns this will increase the pressure at the Watford site.

Watford councillors said the plans, outlined in the county council’s consultation on household waste sites, made a "mockery" of past assurances the town would be well-provided for because of the two facilities.

Watford Borough Council passed a motion at the full council meeting on Wednesday night to respond formally to the household waste consultation opposing the proposals.

Liberal Democrat councillor Derek Scudder said more congestion around Waterdale, which is used by builders and contractors as well as residents, would put people off disposing of their rubbish in a responsible way.

He said: "There are already queues on the A405, these queues result in people not going to the tip.

"If people do come because the Elstree site is closed, it will increase the pressure on the Waterdale site. 

"This will increase residential waste going in black bins. The traffic will increase, and there is already very heavy traffic in this area. This will degrade the site for residents and it will be used much less subsequently."

Fellow Liberal Democrat Tim Williams feared the move would increase flytipping by 44 per cent.

He said: "I’m concerned closing Elstree and reducing Waterdale by 44 per cent will increase flytipping by 44 per cent.

"These proposals are short sighted. Waterdale is the most well used, accessible site. Reducing its hours will just be adding to black bins and landfill disposal.

"The county argument that residents will go 16 miles to the Rickmansworth site through some of the most congested roads in Hertfordshire doesn’t wash with me."

Labour councillor Nasreen Shah, who represents Vicarage, said flytipping as already a huge problem in her ward.

She said: "There is a huge flytipping in my ward. Sometimes you cannot even get through. There are mattresses left on the pavements. Isn’t it costing the council more to send out transport and staff to clear up the flytipping?"

But Conservative councillor Binita Mehta, representing Park, reminded the council the proposals were part of a consultation and not set in stone.

She said: "All residents have an opinion on this, it’s important everyone bring forward their views for this consultation."

A Labour-led ammendment to reinstate free bulky items collection was not carried.

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6:28pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Cuetip says...

Welcome to the coalition's promise 'less means more' when it comes to literally the bottom line in very 'basic' services.

There is already an abandonment of prevention or enforcement in many terraced streets plagued by couldn't careless short term tenants and absentee landlords.

Let's face it this typifies what a dirty business politics has become as consultation is merely window dressing the real agenda of the coalition as they continue to turn a blind eye to those areas worst affected.

Welcome to more crap in the streets of Watford.
Welcome to the coalition's promise 'less means more' when it comes to literally the bottom line in very 'basic' services. There is already an abandonment of prevention or enforcement in many terraced streets plagued by couldn't careless short term tenants and absentee landlords. Let's face it this typifies what a dirty business politics has become as consultation is merely window dressing the real agenda of the coalition as they continue to turn a blind eye to those areas worst affected. Welcome to more crap in the streets of Watford. Cuetip
  • Score: 5

6:33pm Thu 31 Jul 14

theturpster says...

Plans to cut waste site opening hours will lead to flytipping, warn Watford politicians...

Have we enough "stating the obvious 2014" winner awards to dish out?

Does our tax go to keep these tw4ts a roof over their heads ffs?
Plans to cut waste site opening hours will lead to flytipping, warn Watford politicians... Have we enough "stating the obvious 2014" winner awards to dish out? Does our tax go to keep these tw4ts a roof over their heads ffs? theturpster
  • Score: -4

8:55pm Thu 31 Jul 14

ancientandageing says...

I don't suppose there is much fly tipping in Park
I don't suppose there is much fly tipping in Park ancientandageing
  • Score: 1

10:17pm Thu 31 Jul 14

E.Coli says...

I wonder what will happen if some does some fly tipping near the 4.5 million pound ?.
I wonder what will happen if some does some fly tipping near the 4.5 million pound ?. E.Coli
  • Score: -3

4:16am Fri 1 Aug 14

cgpc Rob says...

What are the proposed savings in costs, not mentioned in article.

What would it cost extra per HCC household to keep the service as is, or are more houses on the way for these sites, therefore more rubbish!
What are the proposed savings in costs, not mentioned in article. What would it cost extra per HCC household to keep the service as is, or are more houses on the way for these sites, therefore more rubbish! cgpc Rob
  • Score: 0

11:41am Fri 1 Aug 14

pepsiman says...

Well it is an excellent site to build more homes on, all the motorway links etc. Such a waste
Well it is an excellent site to build more homes on, all the motorway links etc. Such a waste pepsiman
  • Score: -1

12:26pm Fri 1 Aug 14

cameluk says...

"But Conservative councillor Binita Mehta, representing Park, reminded the council the proposals were part of a consultation and not set in stone. "

And we are meant to believe that, they are just going through the motions

this will not only generate more fly tipping, but extra unsorted waste in my normal bin that won't be recycled which will cost them more in landfill costs
"But Conservative councillor Binita Mehta, representing Park, reminded the council the proposals were part of a consultation and not set in stone. " And we are meant to believe that, they are just going through the motions this will not only generate more fly tipping, but extra unsorted waste in my normal bin that won't be recycled which will cost them more in landfill costs cameluk
  • Score: 0

12:29pm Fri 1 Aug 14

LocalBoy1 says...

"Liberal Democrat Tim Williams feared the move would increase flytipping by 44 per cent" ..... 44%?? wonder where that figure came from? Wouldn't have anything to do with... "Plans to cut the hours of the town’s household waste site by 44 per cent" Seriously clever people these Lib Dems!
"Liberal Democrat Tim Williams feared the move would increase flytipping by 44 per cent" ..... 44%?? wonder where that figure came from? Wouldn't have anything to do with... "Plans to cut the hours of the town’s household waste site by 44 per cent" Seriously clever people these Lib Dems! LocalBoy1
  • Score: -10

3:47pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ancientandageing says...

LocalBoy1 wrote:
"Liberal Democrat Tim Williams feared the move would increase flytipping by 44 per cent" ..... 44%?? wonder where that figure came from? Wouldn't have anything to do with... "Plans to cut the hours of the town’s household waste site by 44 per cent" Seriously clever people these Lib Dems!
before asking Questions it might be worth reading the article
"He said: "I’m concerned closing Elstree and reducing Waterdale by 44 per cent will increase flytipping by 44 per cent."
I am no fan of the Libdems but come on Localboy
All you had to do was read the direct qoute, given in the next line to have your answer.
[quote][p][bold]LocalBoy1[/bold] wrote: "Liberal Democrat Tim Williams feared the move would increase flytipping by 44 per cent" ..... 44%?? wonder where that figure came from? Wouldn't have anything to do with... "Plans to cut the hours of the town’s household waste site by 44 per cent" Seriously clever people these Lib Dems![/p][/quote]before asking Questions it might be worth reading the article "He said: "I’m concerned closing Elstree and reducing Waterdale by 44 per cent will increase flytipping by 44 per cent." I am no fan of the Libdems but come on Localboy All you had to do was read the direct qoute, given in the next line to have your answer. ancientandageing
  • Score: 9

4:31pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Wacko Jacko says...

Is this anything to do with HCC penalising Watford for being one of the very few non-Conservative councils in Herts?
Is this anything to do with HCC penalising Watford for being one of the very few non-Conservative councils in Herts? Wacko Jacko
  • Score: 1

4:50pm Fri 1 Aug 14

LocalBoy1 says...

ancientandageing wrote:
LocalBoy1 wrote:
"Liberal Democrat Tim Williams feared the move would increase flytipping by 44 per cent" ..... 44%?? wonder where that figure came from? Wouldn't have anything to do with... "Plans to cut the hours of the town’s household waste site by 44 per cent" Seriously clever people these Lib Dems!
before asking Questions it might be worth reading the article
"He said: "I’m concerned closing Elstree and reducing Waterdale by 44 per cent will increase flytipping by 44 per cent."
I am no fan of the Libdems but come on Localboy
All you had to do was read the direct qoute, given in the next line to have your answer.
Nit picking "ancientandageing" yet again, you did get the point though did you? Yes?. Now that you are on here I'm off, had enough of you on previous occasions.... Trolls I have no time for! . Unchecking "You are subscribed to this article"
[quote][p][bold]ancientandageing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBoy1[/bold] wrote: "Liberal Democrat Tim Williams feared the move would increase flytipping by 44 per cent" ..... 44%?? wonder where that figure came from? Wouldn't have anything to do with... "Plans to cut the hours of the town’s household waste site by 44 per cent" Seriously clever people these Lib Dems![/p][/quote]before asking Questions it might be worth reading the article "He said: "I’m concerned closing Elstree and reducing Waterdale by 44 per cent will increase flytipping by 44 per cent." I am no fan of the Libdems but come on Localboy All you had to do was read the direct qoute, given in the next line to have your answer.[/p][/quote]Nit picking "ancientandageing" yet again, you did get the point though did you? Yes?. Now that you are on here I'm off, had enough of you on previous occasions.... Trolls I have no time for! . Unchecking "You are subscribed to this article" LocalBoy1
  • Score: -8

6:53pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Mad_Hat says...

HCC have outsourced the service, therefore if they reduce costs/over-heads they increase the profits for the Spanish-owned firm they've signed up with, plus can then build houses on the sites they've closed. Leaving us, the re-cycle-concious voter, with increased costs in time/petrol/the environment to pay for it.
HCC have outsourced the service, therefore if they reduce costs/over-heads they increase the profits for the Spanish-owned firm they've signed up with, plus can then build houses on the sites they've closed. Leaving us, the re-cycle-concious voter, with increased costs in time/petrol/the environment to pay for it. Mad_Hat
  • Score: 0

9:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ancientandageing says...

LocalBoy1 wrote:
ancientandageing wrote:
LocalBoy1 wrote:
"Liberal Democrat Tim Williams feared the move would increase flytipping by 44 per cent" ..... 44%?? wonder where that figure came from? Wouldn't have anything to do with... "Plans to cut the hours of the town’s household waste site by 44 per cent" Seriously clever people these Lib Dems!
before asking Questions it might be worth reading the article
"He said: "I’m concerned closing Elstree and reducing Waterdale by 44 per cent will increase flytipping by 44 per cent."
I am no fan of the Libdems but come on Localboy
All you had to do was read the direct qoute, given in the next line to have your answer.
Nit picking "ancientandageing" yet again, you did get the point though did you? Yes?. Now that you are on here I'm off, had enough of you on previous occasions.... Trolls I have no time for! . Unchecking "You are subscribed to this article"
although of course if you had scabed the comments you might of noticed I was here before you, never mind
[quote][p][bold]LocalBoy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ancientandageing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBoy1[/bold] wrote: "Liberal Democrat Tim Williams feared the move would increase flytipping by 44 per cent" ..... 44%?? wonder where that figure came from? Wouldn't have anything to do with... "Plans to cut the hours of the town’s household waste site by 44 per cent" Seriously clever people these Lib Dems![/p][/quote]before asking Questions it might be worth reading the article "He said: "I’m concerned closing Elstree and reducing Waterdale by 44 per cent will increase flytipping by 44 per cent." I am no fan of the Libdems but come on Localboy All you had to do was read the direct qoute, given in the next line to have your answer.[/p][/quote]Nit picking "ancientandageing" yet again, you did get the point though did you? Yes?. Now that you are on here I'm off, had enough of you on previous occasions.... Trolls I have no time for! . Unchecking "You are subscribed to this article"[/p][/quote]although of course if you had scabed the comments you might of noticed I was here before you, never mind ancientandageing
  • Score: 4

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