Croxley Green woman calling on Transport For London to let her to turn disused land into a vegetable patch

Croxley Green woman calling on Transport For London to let her to turn disused land into a vegetable patch

Croxley Green woman calling on Transport For London to let her to turn disused land into a vegetable patch

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A Croxley Green woman is calling on Transport For London to change its "unequal" garden licence policy and allow her to turn some disused land into a vegetable patch.

Jacqueline Burns, 48, has lived at her Frankland Road home since October and has repeatedly applied to the transport network to turn the land behind her garden into an agricultural area. 

The local government worker said other residents on the street have these licences and she thinks it is unfair that her applications have been denied.

Mrs Burns said: "Our house backs onto the Metropolitan line and some of our neighbours are able to use the land but we’re not.

"Some people don’t pay anything and some pay between £45 and £145. Their policy is so unequal and I’m offering to pay. I don’t want to penalise others. I just want to be given the same access. I offered to pay for the fences and the land.

"My issue is that you have sporadic use of land with varying costs. It’s just sitting there, dormant.

"This area is approximately 30ft by 18ft and is totally overgrown with logs dumped on it and brambles overgrowing. 

"All I want to do is grow vegetables. The land has got subsidence so they won’t have used it for the track."

Mrs Burns, who lives with her 46-year-old husband, Philip, said she has made it clear in her applications to TFL that she would foot the bill for the cost of the licence and maintenance of the site, but she has been blocked at every attempt.

She said: "I’m happy to pay the ongoing costs of maintenance and do not wish to keep the land. I would be using wooden vegetable cots that can easily be dismantled. 

"I believe that this is a pertinent story to a lot of households in London due to the lack of available land and diminishing access to allotments which are being reused for housing." 

Graeme Craig, director of commercial development at TfL, said: “We are reviewing our approach to garden licences, and whilst this review is underway we will not be issuing any further garden licences.”

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12:36pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Maclanx says...

Good idea, annoying to see wasted land.
Good idea, annoying to see wasted land. Maclanx
  • Score: 9

3:10pm Fri 5 Sep 14

BrianSnail says...

I think that TfL should get this sorted quickly; they are stalling by saying they are having a review of their approach...how hard is it to let responsible residents make use of land which is being left in a poor state...especially if it for growing vegetables. I thought Boris supported this type of initiative...surely he should get this moving throughout London!
I think that TfL should get this sorted quickly; they are stalling by saying they are having a review of their approach...how hard is it to let responsible residents make use of land which is being left in a poor state...especially if it for growing vegetables. I thought Boris supported this type of initiative...surely he should get this moving throughout London! BrianSnail
  • Score: 8

7:07pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Curious Orange says...

What a great way to put good use to unused land! Growing your own vegetables is superb, It's environmentally friendly, cheap and great fun! Good luck to this lady and her vegetable patch, I hope this inspires others to do the same!!
What a great way to put good use to unused land! Growing your own vegetables is superb, It's environmentally friendly, cheap and great fun! Good luck to this lady and her vegetable patch, I hope this inspires others to do the same!! Curious Orange
  • Score: 5

8:40pm Fri 5 Sep 14

penguin3 says...

Great idea. With green spaces in London at a premium it would be good to see waste land being improved. TFL need to be consistent, they need to be open to Londoners needs and could set up leases across the Capital at no cost to the public. Come on TFL make it happen.
Great idea. With green spaces in London at a premium it would be good to see waste land being improved. TFL need to be consistent, they need to be open to Londoners needs and could set up leases across the Capital at no cost to the public. Come on TFL make it happen. penguin3
  • Score: 4

9:22pm Fri 5 Sep 14

bethanyw says...

it's ridiculous that this lady can't use the land that backs onto her own garden when others can. This needs to get sorted ASAP as there is too much land going to waste for no reason. Nobody is using it so where is the harm? particularly as she is willing to pay for it herself. Tfl would lose nothing by allowing vegetables to be grown here
it's ridiculous that this lady can't use the land that backs onto her own garden when others can. This needs to get sorted ASAP as there is too much land going to waste for no reason. Nobody is using it so where is the harm? particularly as she is willing to pay for it herself. Tfl would lose nothing by allowing vegetables to be grown here bethanyw
  • Score: 4

9:56pm Fri 5 Sep 14

birdsong says...

How bemusing that when someone offers to pay their way the government prefers to allow others who have paid varying rates or naught to continue to have access to something that quite rightly aught to be 'flat rated' for all. Another reason why the politicians have got it wrong, We are being actively being encouraged to grow your own so get behind this incentive and ask Boris to review this policy timely at zero cost shame on you :-)
How bemusing that when someone offers to pay their way the government prefers to allow others who have paid varying rates or naught to continue to have access to something that quite rightly aught to be 'flat rated' for all. Another reason why the politicians have got it wrong, We are being actively being encouraged to grow your own so get behind this incentive and ask Boris to review this policy timely at zero cost shame on you :-) birdsong
  • Score: 5

12:58am Sat 6 Sep 14

supporterofland says...

Come on TFL do the right thing and support this cause....
Come on TFL do the right thing and support this cause.... supporterofland
  • Score: 4

10:22am Sat 6 Sep 14

TMarsh says...

TFL, should consider the request to use this piece of land an opportunity, The owner is willing to fence the land at considerable cost to themselves, reuse the land at the rear of her garden for a productive use. What does she come up against, inconsistent treatment from TFL when considering their approach to others in the street. Most people in this position would of just use it. TFL would never of known of the land use. She and her husband are being treated appalling for going through the correct procedure.
Come on TFL and their ultimate boss Boris do the right thing in this instance.
TFL, should consider the request to use this piece of land an opportunity, The owner is willing to fence the land at considerable cost to themselves, reuse the land at the rear of her garden for a productive use. What does she come up against, inconsistent treatment from TFL when considering their approach to others in the street. Most people in this position would of just use it. TFL would never of known of the land use. She and her husband are being treated appalling for going through the correct procedure. Come on TFL and their ultimate boss Boris do the right thing in this instance. TMarsh
  • Score: 5

12:33pm Sun 7 Sep 14

cgpc Rob says...

Graeme Craig, director of commercial development at TfL, said: “We are reviewing our approach to garden licences, and whilst this review is underway we will not be issuing any further garden licences.”


Anyone know when the review will be held/finished, so that possible licences can be granted?
Graeme Craig, director of commercial development at TfL, said: “We are reviewing our approach to garden licences, and whilst this review is underway we will not be issuing any further garden licences.” Anyone know when the review will be held/finished, so that possible licences can be granted? cgpc Rob
  • Score: 3

1:15pm Sun 7 Sep 14

birdsong says...

I have asked the reporter to check as a this is public money b all reviews should have a start and finish and after the six months of pretending to send a surveyor the review was the next excuse we faced as we too asked for the use of land

Boris and Peter Hendy say that they are meeting the challenges of customer demands why not allow an allotment or gardening company to regulate the monitoring and usage

You could for arguments sake put a gated fence access with the thirty foot extra to each garden boundary with a codicil saying if use use this there is a nominal hundred pound charge a year

I see Boris also hasn't answered his twitter questions on the subject urs obviously not close enough to the
elections
I have asked the reporter to check as a this is public money b all reviews should have a start and finish and after the six months of pretending to send a surveyor the review was the next excuse we faced as we too asked for the use of land Boris and Peter Hendy say that they are meeting the challenges of customer demands why not allow an allotment or gardening company to regulate the monitoring and usage You could for arguments sake put a gated fence access with the thirty foot extra to each garden boundary with a codicil saying if use use this there is a nominal hundred pound charge a year I see Boris also hasn't answered his twitter questions on the subject urs obviously not close enough to the elections birdsong
  • Score: 2
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