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Concern over prison false alarms

1:32pm Wednesday 31st October 2007

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Fire and rescue tenders have been called to the new lifers' wing at The Mount prison in Bovingdon to nine flase alarms in the past four weeks.

The Narey Unit, a 44-cell block that accommodates life sentence prisoners, is experiencing "teething problems" with the fire alarms being triggered, possibly by steam and smoke from the kitchens.

The prison is said to be investigating the cause of the false alarms and said fire detectors had already been changed.

The new block, which sits within the 27 acre site, houses prisoners convicted of offences including murder and manslaughter.

It has a recreation room complete with plasma screen, ensuite cells with personal televisions and a fitness and IT suite.

A prison spokesman said: "We are aware of the problems with the fire alarms and are desperately trying to solve it."


Your Say YourWatford Observer

Here we go again, says...
2:53pm Wed 31 Oct 07

"... prisoners convicted of offences including murder and manslaughter ...

has a recreation room complete with plasma screen, ensuite cells with personal televisions and a fitness and IT suite"


Shame there wasn't a real fire in the block because I'm sure the inmates would be evacuated to the nearest 5 star hotel and benefit even more with room service etc!

Many hard working, law abiding citizens cannot even afford the luxuries these scumbags enjoy for free!

When are the blinkered, mis-guided, liberally-minded muppets who encourage these situations going to have a thought for the genuine victims in society?

Maybe they need a close friend or relative of theirs to be on the receiving end of a murderer or other serious scumbag, to open their eyes!

peter, harrow says...
5:43pm Wed 31 Oct 07

Prison is for rehabilatation.Two
wrongs done make a right !!

If our society sends these people to prison,rather than hard labour etc.then we have to try and do something to keep them occupied.

If we don`t want them to have these things then lets suggest something else ??

Roy Stockdill, says...
6:20pm Wed 31 Oct 07

peter wrote:
Prison is for rehabilatation.Two wrongs done make a right !! If our society sends these people to prison,rather than hard labour etc.then we have to try and do something to keep them occupied. If we don`t want them to have these things then lets suggest something else ??
Do-gooding, romanticised liberal rubbish!Rehabilitati
on doesn't work - it has been proved by the figures of released prisoners who reoffend time and time again. I can think of a couple of better Rs than rehabilitation - RETRIBUTION and REVENGE, the revenge of society on worthless vermin who have no place in it. Since we no longer put them down, then let's at least protect society by keeping them locked up forever, i.e. life should mean life for those who have committed the worst crimes. And it should not be a life of cosy home comforts; it should be a life sentence where every day is complete misery, in order that they should have lots of time to reflect on their evil actions that have caused such misery to others.

Here we go (yet) again, says...
7:43pm Wed 31 Oct 07

peter wrote:
Prison is for rehabilatation.Two
wrongs done make a right !!

If our society sends these people to prison,rather than hard labour etc.then we have to try and do something to keep them occupied.

If we don`t want them to have these things then lets suggest something else ??
Reinstatement of capital punishment would be a good start!

When you compare the pathetically mild sentences of today with, for example, the sentences the great train robbers received (up to 35 yrs imprisonment, of which Ronnie Biggs is living proof) for merely stealing a few old Government bank notes (which were destined for the incinerator anyway) and using the minimum of violence in the process, then offenders of today really are leading a holiday camp lifestyle ... due, largely to do-gooders like yourself!

Re-habilitation doesn't come into as far as I'm concerned ... it's simply about punishment for an act of wrong-doing!

Roy Stockdill, says...
8:28pm Wed 31 Oct 07

I believe we still own a group of islands in the South Atlantic called South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. They are apparently very remote and inhospitable. The only inhabitants are government scientists, and similar workers, and penguins. Wouldn't this be the ideal place to build a British Alcatraz and get rid of all our prison lifer scum and vermin permanently? It probably wouldn't be popular with the penguins but we could protect their rights by making sure they had no contact with the prison inmates, to whom the penguins would be infinitely superior and whose lives are much more important.

Sailing to South Atlantic ..., says...
9:14pm Wed 31 Oct 07

Yes ... and the same motley crew could also be used to help fend off any threat of an Argentinian type invasion! thereby, saving the deployment of UK troops!

Of course, all penguins would be made officers (according to pecking order) ... and any insubordination would be met with a flap round the ear! :)

Roy Stockdill, says...
10:11pm Wed 31 Oct 07

Well, would it matter much if the Argies invaded the British Alcatraz and exterminated the whole lot of the prisoners? It would save us the expense of keeping them for years. I don't suppose the penguins would even notice.


Michael, Watford says...
3:33pm Fri 2 Nov 07

The views expressed above just make me think that you lot are just as bad as the prisoners you are talking about.

Roy Stockdill, says...
8:21pm Fri 2 Nov 07

Michael wrote:
The views expressed above just make me think that you lot are just as bad as the prisoners you are talking about.
Well, as far as I know (and I can only speak for myself) none of us have committed any crime serious enough to get us sent to jail for life. One has to ask whether the lifers in The Mount prison actually considered the so-called human rights of their victims when they killed them (and I am assuming the great majority are in there for murder or manslaughter). Clearly, they didn't think their victims had any rights at all, so why should society now have any sympathy for these criminals when they claim human rights and appear to be having quite a cosy little life there as part of a "community"? As far as I am concerned, allowing for the odd inmate who may have been suffering from some kind of mental trauma when they committed their crime - in which case they should be incarcerated somewhere else - these so-called humans are scum and vermin and ideally should be put down as worthless specimens of humanity who are unlikely to change. Since we can no longer do that, we should keep them locked up forever in conditions that make them painfully aware of how disgusting they are and in what utter contempt decent people hold them.

Michael, Watford says...
12:46pm Sat 3 Nov 07

Roy, calm down and take your rabies pill. You are really frothing at the mouth.

Roy Stockdill, says...
6:10pm Sat 3 Nov 07

You think these prisoners serving life sentences have some value to society, then, do you? What would you suggest we do with them?

Solution Finder, says...
3:37am Sun 4 Nov 07

Roy Stockdill wrote:
You think these prisoners serving life sentences have some value to society, then, do you? What would you suggest we do with them?
We'll have them all sent round to Michael's home ... two birds with one stone, me thinks! :)

Michael, Watford says...
11:45am Sun 4 Nov 07

I have no intention of offering any solutions or suggestions as I'm sure that they would be much too liberal for you. My comments above are in respect of the ranting and frothing at the mouth brigade shouting scum, vermin, worthless, retribution, revenge and the suggestion that a real fire would be okay.

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