Girl run over in Chorleywood
10:36am Tuesday 8th January 2008
Comments (87)A 17-year-old girl is seriously ill after being involved in an accident with a van this morning as she crossed Rickmansworth Road, near St Clement Danes School.
Police say the accident happened at around 8.25am this morning as rush hour traffic reached its peak.
The girl, believed to be a pupil at the school, was rushed to Watford General Hospital where she remains in a serious condition.
The vehicle involved was a white Renault Kangoo van.
Anyone who witnessed the accident is asked to contact PC Alison Hickman of the Western Area Roads Policing Unit of 07923 472 388.
The road remains closed from the junction with Common Road. Traffic towards the M25 is being diverted through the centre of Chorleywood.
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Nicky, Chorleywood says...
12:08pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Parent, says...
12:47pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Anxious Parent, Chorleywood says...
1:15pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Roger Mellie, Out there says...
1:37pm Tue 8 Jan 08
arsenal fan, by my computer says...
1:41pm Tue 8 Jan 08
I do not know the area but reading comments,I think that there should be traffic lights put up and speed bumps put in the rd.
Martin Trevett, Chorleywood says...
2:13pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Anna Rack, Watford says...
2:28pm Tue 8 Jan 08
One hopes that the girl makes a full recovery. Best wishes. Anna
Kate, Herts says...
2:30pm Tue 8 Jan 08
annonymous, Chorleywood says...
2:48pm Tue 8 Jan 08
sue powell, chorleywood says...
3:30pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Chancellor, Economics Class says...
3:38pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Anyway - safety is the topic here. I wish the girl in question makes a full recovery. And lets not be too quick to blame the driver - I've seen kids run/walk across that road without too much regard for their own safety.
annonymous, chorleywood says...
3:55pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Chris, Chorleywood says...
4:25pm Tue 8 Jan 08
J Williams, 346-080 says...
4:27pm Tue 8 Jan 08
annonymous, Chorleywood says...
4:42pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Andy, Croxley Green says...
4:42pm Tue 8 Jan 08
J Williams wrote:perhaps incorporating a school park and ride were parents can drop their children off and board a scholl bus at no cost?
I pass this school every morning on my way to work and there are no words to describe the massive difference in volumne of traffic in term time to school holiday time, but it takes me TWICE as long to get to work just because of this stretch of road and the school. I appreciate some pupils live too far away to walk but I see car after car with one child in it so shared school runs would help and these are senior school pupils so should not need to the door pampering so perhaps they could be dropped off half a mile away and then walk. The government goes on about the carbon foot print and the school run is a major problem so lets see them do something like the American school bus service for free!
Joe schmo, says...
4:54pm Tue 8 Jan 08
No one is to blame apart from perhaps herself. Take more care crossing the road, as you endangering others aswell as yourself.
Seymour Laws, Chorleywood says...
5:00pm Tue 8 Jan 08
parent, herts says...
5:01pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Igloo, Watford says...
5:17pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Martin Trevett wrote:Obviously not "working" hard enough like Giles Medhurst who is the official Lib Dem spokesperson on the Herfordshire County Council Highways & Transport Panel.
If concerned people would contact me as one of your local Lib Dem councillors, we have been working on this issue for some time we are campaining for a reduction in the speed limit and rephasing of the traffic lights to allow for pedestrians to cross, support from residents and parents will help, please contact me.
Lloyd, Chorleywood says...
5:49pm Tue 8 Jan 08
That said, I have never really understood how car journeys made on the 'school run' are somehow deamed less worthy than, say, the use of a vehicle to travel to and from work. Surely parents should be free to choose how their children make the trip to school without incurring the opprobium of other road users?
Let us all join in wishing the injured child a full and speedy recovery.
martin Trevett, chorleywood says...
6:11pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Igloo wrote:I am afraid the County Council is run by a party other than mine and in spite of taking over two thirds of our Council Tax it fails to put enough of our money into road saftey, perhaps it is time you looked outside your igloo.
Martin Trevett wrote:Obviously not "working" hard enough like Giles Medhurst who is the official Lib Dem spokesperson on the Herfordshire County Council Highways & Transport Panel.
If concerned people would contact me as one of your local Lib Dem councillors, we have been working on this issue for some time we are campaining for a reduction in the speed limit and rephasing of the traffic lights to allow for pedestrians to cross, support from residents and parents will help, please contact me.
Stan Gallagher, Chorleywood says...
6:29pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Thoughts for the girl and her family would seem rather more appropriate at this time than contributions such as those made by Igloo.
J, Croxley says...
6:43pm Tue 8 Jan 08
This is preventable, but right now our thoughts have to be elsewhere, action not words make a difference.
Kate, herts says...
7:10pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Concerned parent, Chorleywood says...
7:43pm Tue 8 Jan 08
I have always been surprised that there is no speed camera on this stretch of road (by a school!), but in other locations - e.g. by the roundabout by Chalfont St. Peter - there is a speed camera and a 30mph limit. Where is the sense in that? This is why some people (probably unfairly) have doubts about the considerations which are taken into account when locating speed cameras.
I would have thought that all roads near schools should be 30mph and enforced by speed cameras.
I raised concerns (at a local residents meeting) about the speed in which cars travelled on roads near The Russell School, but my concerns did not seem to be shared by those people without young children.
Don't get me on the subject of driving whilkst using a hand-held mobile phone.
Anon, says...
7:43pm Tue 8 Jan 08
We are researching accidents involving pedestrians who run into the road from the cover of large stationary vehicles.
If anyone has any information could you please post it as we are working on systems that will prevent such accidents.
We hope for a full and speedy recovery.
C, Chorleywood says...
9:58pm Tue 8 Jan 08
As for you people driving and complaining of the traffic at least these youths are doing something with their lives... i'm sure you would be the first to complain if they were out causing trouble in the day when they could be at school. And why on earth would parents let their children walk to school when there are goodness knows how many weirdos around nowadays, it simply isn't safe. If you're so worried about the carbon print then why are you driving to work, get up earlier and walk...?
Idiots, some people don't have a clue!!
alex, pinner says...
9:59pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Motorist, S.Oxhey says...
11:40pm Tue 8 Jan 08
A concerned parent, Chorleywood says...
11:48pm Tue 8 Jan 08
In particular,
Who ultimately decides what is an appropriate speed limit on such a road (and who is usually involved in the decision making process)?
I would really like an answer to this question.
Who decides on the location of speed cameras?
I don't think anybody should be critical of Mr Trevett. He is being transparent and offering his assistance. An honest approach when others might be taking a low profile.
mcadam, currently Leeds, Watford says...
11:55pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Wish you a speedy recovery chloe!
A. Concerned parent, Chorleywood says...
11:57pm Tue 8 Jan 08
"There is a queue into school morning and night and this makes
it very dangerous for children crossing between 'parked' cars on one side of the road and fast moving traffic on the other side."
The larger the "catchment area" for the school, the more traffic there will be. St. Clement Danes should be a secondary school for the LOCAL community. As should every secondary school.
I understand that it is quite safe for children to walk up Green Street and then across a footpath to the school.
L, USA says...
4:07am Wed 9 Jan 08
A Friend, Bushey says...
9:07am Wed 9 Jan 08
Motorist wrote:nine of ten cases it is the drivers fault - now many men & women still use their mobile phones whilst driving a good 80%. Perhaps if was your child it would be different yes pedestians are at fault thats human mature.
I am disgusted that it seems its always the driver that gets the blame. I was driving along Hayling Road, S.Oxhey just before the Christmas holidaysand a young girl of approx 15years from St.Michaels school, walked out in front of my car and carried on walking slowly, ignoring me tooting her. Her friends on the other side of the road were laughing at her, would they have been laughing at her had I been doing 30mph, bearing in mind that i had just turned into the road, i might possibly had knocked her down, who would have been laughing then her, her friends, her family. This was down to pure ignorance. Im not saying who is at fault with this young girls accident but we must remember that we cannot always blame the motorists as pedestrians are to blame just as much. My daughter gets the bus to school and it costs me £150.00 a term but I just dont have a choice but to pay this.
A suggestion is for for parients to draw up a rota to provide road crossing marshals until the solution is found?
Luke, Croxley Green says...
9:16am Wed 9 Jan 08
Tony nelson, Chorleywood says...
9:48am Wed 9 Jan 08
The key issue is the 40 mph speed limit and lack of safe crossing points. Putting these in place will make it safer for pedestrians. I am writing to local and county councillors and am heartened to see how much interest there is on the issue. Over 10 years I have not seen the local or county councils take action on this issue. Now is the time to raise our voices and say what we want as parents. It is not about blame - but about accident prevention.
Luke, Croxley Green says...
10:12am Wed 9 Jan 08
Tony nelson wrote:Speed bumps and speed limited to 30mph for 400 yards each side of school - what has the local MP have to say on the subject?
I am sure we all hope for a speedy recovery for the injured girl. The key issue is the 40 mph speed limit and lack of safe crossing points. Putting these in place will make it safer for pedestrians. I am writing to local and county councillors and am heartened to see how much interest there is on the issue. Over 10 years I have not seen the local or county councils take action on this issue. Now is the time to raise our voices and say what we want as parents. It is not about blame - but about accident prevention.
Motorist, S.Oxhey says...
11:48am Wed 9 Jan 08
A Friend wrote:Ive taught my child to cross the road properly ,and why does it always come to down to mobile phone use, a lot of it is driving too fast and lack of concentration, why has nobody mentioned drink driving.
Motorist wrote: I am disgusted that it seems its always the driver that gets the blame. I was driving along Hayling Road, S.Oxhey just before the Christmas holidaysand a young girl of approx 15years from St.Michaels school, walked out in front of my car and carried on walking slowly, ignoring me tooting her. Her friends on the other side of the road were laughing at her, would they have been laughing at her had I been doing 30mph, bearing in mind that i had just turned into the road, i might possibly had knocked her down, who would have been laughing then her, her friends, her family. This was down to pure ignorance. Im not saying who is at fault with this young girls accident but we must remember that we cannot always blame the motorists as pedestrians are to blame just as much. My daughter gets the bus to school and it costs me £150.00 a term but I just dont have a choice but to pay this.nine of ten cases it is the drivers fault - now many men & women still use their mobile phones whilst driving a good 80%. Perhaps if was your child it would be different yes pedestians are at fault thats human mature. A suggestion is for for parients to draw up a rota to provide road crossing marshals until the solution is found?
Observer, Beaconsfield says...
11:55am Wed 9 Jan 08
I agree with some here that the problem is that too many people are driving to this school - either 6 formers or parents dropping off/picking up. Congested roads are more dangerous (for pedestrians) than less congested roads.
Lets tackle the cause rather than try to adapt and live with the problem.
In the meantime, I'm sure this will serve as a reminder to pedestrians and motorists to be more careful.
A Friend, Bushey says...
12:04pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Motorist wrote:truth hurts how many parients trasporting their children to and from use their mobile phones during the journey a good 80% - **** driving at 9am I dont think so!
A Friend wrote:Ive taught my child to cross the road properly ,and why does it always come to down to mobile phone use, a lot of it is driving too fast and lack of concentration, why has nobody mentioned drink driving.Motorist wrote: I am disgusted that it seems its always the driver that gets the blame. I was driving along Hayling Road, S.Oxhey just before the Christmas holidaysand a young girl of approx 15years from St.Michaels school, walked out in front of my car and carried on walking slowly, ignoring me tooting her. Her friends on the other side of the road were laughing at her, would they have been laughing at her had I been doing 30mph, bearing in mind that i had just turned into the road, i might possibly had knocked her down, who would have been laughing then her, her friends, her family. This was down to pure ignorance. Im not saying who is at fault with this young girls accident but we must remember that we cannot always blame the motorists as pedestrians are to blame just as much. My daughter gets the bus to school and it costs me £150.00 a term but I just dont have a choice but to pay this.nine of ten cases it is the drivers fault - now many men & women still use their mobile phones whilst driving a good 80%. Perhaps if was your child it would be different yes pedestians are at fault thats human mature. A suggestion is for for parients to draw up a rota to provide road crossing marshals until the solution is found?
Back to mobile phones how many pupils own mobiles and it is noted that these distract the pupils when walking along the pavements or crossing roads?
The council can resolve the issue with school crossing points and barriers
concerned parent of SCD, Chorleywood says...
1:01pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Statistician, Chorleywood says...
1:41pm Wed 9 Jan 08
During my school days, when I missed the bus, I would walk the 3 miles to school by myself. I somehow managed to do this AND avoid colliding with any vehicles or being offered sweets by strange men. The world is no more dangerous now than it was 20 years ago - it's just the media are better at telling us about all the bad things that happen and the Government are better at telling us what's good/bad for us.
larry, Watford says...
2:03pm Wed 9 Jan 08
larry, Watford says...
2:07pm Wed 9 Jan 08
A Friend, Bushey says...
2:10pm Wed 9 Jan 08
concerned parent of SCD wrote:so concerned parent - what have you done to resolve this!
I am appalled by some of the idiotic comments on this site about emmissions and phones etc. This accident has been waiting to happen for the past 7 years at least! The school has asked on many occasions for some traffic calming measures to be put in place but has always been told that there was no money available. I bet some is found now! These are CHILDREN being forced to cross a very dangerous road as there are no crossings for them to use. We should all join the school\'s campaign and make sure poor Chloe is the last victim of this situation, next time it could be YOUR child. My thoughts are with Chloe and her family. God bless and hope you are back to full fitness soon. x
Have you contacted the local council?
Have you arrange a parents crossing go slow?
Have you done anything in the 7 years - NO clearly not!
Does the school have a board of govenors?
Children are being forced? Do something about it now or there will be futher accidents!
Demand a meeting with all relevant authorities oh no foregot somebody else can do that! Do something these are your children and our future.
CSD parent, Chorleywood says...
2:11pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Are any of the following risk factors: a busy A road; a 40 mph speed limit, with the national speed limit commencing just around the corner; no pedestrian crossing anyway along that road; no traffic calming measures/speed cameras etc cf the revenue raiser on that 30 mph stretch going into Little Chalfont; the only place for 6th formers to park being on the other side of the road to the school; the traffic on that side regularly quening in the morning, but trafffic on the school side regularly exceeding the 40 mph limit; the bend in the road - all in all it is difficult to imagine a more dangerous crossing point.
Surely traffic engineers, or anyone with any driving experience, can see the obvious dangers without waiting for a tragic accident to occur.
Can the Statistician identify any other schools on an A road, that do not have a crossing?
A Friend, Bushey says...
2:16pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Statistician wrote:Statistician tell that to the parents and family of teenage girl involved.
1 accident in (at least) 7 years? Hardly an accident blackspot is it? During my school days, when I missed the bus, I would walk the 3 miles to school by myself. I somehow managed to do this AND avoid colliding with any vehicles or being offered sweets by strange men. The world is no more dangerous now than it was 20 years ago - it's just the media are better at telling us about all the bad things that happen and the Government are better at telling us what's good/bad for us.
Im sure if was your daughter your views would be differant?
SCD Parent, Chorleywood says...
2:19pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Given the seriousness of this accident, please reframe from idle uniformed speculation.
concerned parent of SCD, Chorleywood says...
2:25pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Igloo, Watford says...
2:34pm Wed 9 Jan 08
martin Trevett wrote:So what you're saying is that there is nothing you can do - something I knew all along - so why make put in your two ha'pth in the first place pretending that there is? More running with the hare and hunting with the hounds - typical Fib Dem response - You have Medhurst on the appropriate HCC committee and he's pretty useless too - opportunists ever. All my sympathy goes out to this poor unfortunate girl, her family and friends. I wish her a speedy recovery.
Igloo wrote:I am afraid the County Council is run by a party other than mine and in spite of taking over two thirds of our Council Tax it fails to put enough of our money into road saftey, perhaps it is time you looked outside your igloo.Martin Trevett wrote: If concerned people would contact me as one of your local Lib Dem councillors, we have been working on this issue for some time we are campaining for a reduction in the speed limit and rephasing of the traffic lights to allow for pedestrians to cross, support from residents and parents will help, please contact me.Obviously not "working" hard enough like Giles Medhurst who is the official Lib Dem spokesperson on the Herfordshire County Council Highways & Transport Panel.
A Friend, Bushey says...
2:54pm Wed 9 Jan 08
concerned parent of SCD wrote:clearly your policy has failed in 7 years you have failed in your duties as parents! Clearly your local councillor and MP do not have your interest at heart of you or your children!.
In response to A. Friend of Bushey. I have been actively involved in campaigning along with Dr Valentine and the Governers over the past 7 years to push for traffic calming measures to be put into place by Herts CC (including attending traffic planning meetings). Each proposal refused due to lack of perceived need and funds. The police will not allow parent crossings as they say they are dangerous. Saying we should demand meetings with the relevant authority, show how little you understand these things and therefore your stupid comments don\'t help. It\'s very easy to sit & criticise others with your sneering comments but we knew this would happen at some point. We don\'t need our actions criticised, we need the authority in question to accept there is a need. This accident could have been avoided, but it\'s not for the want of trying on the part of the school to have action taken. Think before you speak, assuming you are right just make you look stupid.
My comments are not sneering I would question that in 7 years you have achived nothing!
Does the school have a parents council?
Are there local celebs who would back your worthy fight?
Demanding meetings lets get one thing clear you are the voter and these people are elected by your goodself to carry out there duties to you.
Are there amply school signs making the drivers aware you are approaching the school.
Does the school have a school crossing control supervisor ?
Stupid NO living in the real world yes!
Perhaps a way forward signs on ever side of Chorleywood "You are entering a 30mph zone and the people of Chorleywood thank you for your co-operation" You may have seen these in some local villages.
Luke, Loudwater says...
3:08pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SCD Parent wrote:SCD Parent "The answer is plenty by the School Governors, parents, residents and a number of local Councillors" and "please reframe from idle uniformed speculation".
The Friend from Bushey asks what has been done over the last seven years. The answer is plenty by the School Governors, parents, residents and a number of local Councillors - the response being that nothing can be done until there is an accident. Given the seriousness of this accident, please reframe from idle uniformed speculation.
Speculation NO you have achived NOTHING in seven years, if you had we would not be at this forum.
And needless to say we would not be reading this terrible article.
Perhaps you all need a little more time say 7 years.
Stop talking and do something.
SCD Parent, Chorleywood says...
3:08pm Wed 9 Jan 08
As you have no knowledge of the situation, why not listen to those who do.
SCD Parent, Chorleywood says...
3:17pm Wed 9 Jan 08
A Friend, Bushey says...
3:20pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SCD Parent wrote:Oh you do, I think not
Dear Friend from Bushey, you obviously do not know the road: there is no school crossing control supervisor because their is no school crossing, or any other crossing. The driver was not entering a 30 mph zone, rather he/she was on an A road in a 40 mph zone hearing to a national speed limit (60 mph zone) just around the corner, so how would you word the sign then? As you have no knowledge of the situation, why not listen to those who do.
So itsan "A" road there is nothing to stop the Highways Agency implementing a 30mph zone through Chorleywood.
Why have the school council not employeed a scholl crossing?
As for signs they can be the standard school flashing lights that can positioned accordingly
Oh by the way I do know the road and school
Why cant a central island be built for the crossing control supervisor?
Sorry If I have offended but if I was involved I would want to heads to roll.
Does the MP have your full backing?
concerned parent of SCD, Chorleywood says...
3:34pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SCD Parent, Chorleywood says...
3:35pm Wed 9 Jan 08
You fail to grasp that neither the school nor the local residents have any control over the road.
Anyway, most people connected with the school are too upset to say anything right now. Myself included so this is my last posting.
But thanks for sharing your invaluable lobbying knowledge and experience.
A Friend, Bushey says...
3:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08
concerned parent of SCD wrote:I take your point and apologize for any upset that I may have caused.
As I said before to A Friend (quite an inapproprite name really), All that could have been done over the years has been done. Dealing with councils is a nightmare. I wish you would refrain from making any more comments as you are going to upset all who read what you say. We have asked all of the same questions as you many times and got nowhere. If you think that makes us inadequate or failures for getting nothing done, fair enough. I can assure you that despite your big mouth, you would have acheived the same as us. The MP has been involved for the past 3 years and even he can't get this sorted. I know you are angry, as we all are but you are really not saying anything new. There are warning lights in place already and the speed of the van was not excessive which is why this student is still alive. Some of these kids are very small at age 11 and crossing the road is difficult for them. The fault lies squarely with the County Council who will take no action until there is an accident (their own words). We should remember that friends and family may read these comments and have heed of their feelings. You have said your piece now give it a rest please!
But the forum is there for comments as for "your big mouth" your words lets not get personal ah?
Dan, herts says...
4:57pm Wed 9 Jan 08
And this 'Mike' seems to have a strong opinion about everyone elses life. the price of running a car is nothiing to do with this. what is is getting safer crossing and hoping she is ok.
Joce, Watford says...
4:57pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Luke, Loudwater says...
5:13pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Joce wrote:It was an accident well spotted Joce - but could have been avoided with the intervention of Herts CC Highways!
You are all pathetic. It was an accident. Get a life. Chloe get well soon. X
Joce, Watford says...
5:17pm Wed 9 Jan 08
James, says...
5:47pm Wed 9 Jan 08
david cox, chorleywood says...
6:41pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SCD Pupil, Chorleywood says...
7:22pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Dave, Herts says...
7:48pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Whilst this was a tragic event, without knowing any of the details of the accident, how can any of you make any comment as to who was to blame and what caused it?!
anon, Bucks says...
8:26pm Wed 9 Jan 08
alex, says...
8:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Have you contacted the local council?
Have you arrange a parents crossing go slow?
Have you done anything in the 7 years - NO clearly not!
Does the school have a board of govenors?
Children are being forced? Do something about it now or there will be futher accidents!
Demand a meeting with all relevant authorities oh no foregot somebody else can do that! Do something these are your children and our future.
in response to a friend last term the 6th form put a petition together with 200+ signatures and presented it to both the school govenors and the council. the response from the govenors was that the council would not put in a crossing but also stated that the council had stop the school building a 6th form car park which was planned for in the recent building works. the council did not respond even tho the petition was sent twice to both the transport office and the council offices.
finaly i would also like to remind you that a large proportion of scd pupils do not live in heats cc so do not have the power to vote for that council through no fault of their own.
if anyone wants to know what was in the letter covering the petition im happy to post it hear maby then the council might stop ignoring it.
Motorist, S.Oxhey says...
1:28am Thu 10 Jan 08
Boris, Ricky says...
10:02am Thu 10 Jan 08
Although not a proper crossing at the entrance to the school there is a small island which to cross with some degree of safety. It appears that the kids ignore this as on my journey this morning two 6th formers crossed just 30m down from it and had to walk down the middle of the road whilst waiting for cars to pass and a gap in the traffic. No amount of crossings or speed cameras are going to help the situation here if the Pupils don't use the designated crossings. If with such an incident so fresh in their minds a crossing point is not utlised what hope is there a few months down the line, once the dust has settled
Andy, Chorleywood says...
12:57pm Thu 10 Jan 08
Zoe, Work says...
1:54pm Thu 10 Jan 08
Whilst this is definatley a problem amongst younger people, it still doesn't detract from the fact that a girl has been injured and without knowing the full facts, none of us can turn around and say "oh its the pedestrian's/driver'
s" fault. Its clear that something does need to be done here but blaming various sections of society is not the way to go about it.
I don't live in the area anymore but spent most of my lfe in Ricky and I am very aware of the dangers on that road, even when trying to pull out as a driver onto the main road from a side street etc. I can only hope that this doesn't happen to any one else, and I wish the girl involved all the best and a speedy recovery. A good thing to remember is to take care when crossing ANY road, whether its busy or not, and for motorists to be more aware of their surroundings and remember you don't have to do the maximum speed limit just because it's there.
anon, herts says...
4:32pm Thu 10 Jan 08
Lets stop this pathetic debate.
Zoe, Work says...
4:58pm Thu 10 Jan 08
carly, chorleywood says...
7:37pm Thu 10 Jan 08
I hope she makes a full recovery.
Paul, C-wood says...
4:20pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Yeah, right! Since when do motorists obey ANY signs?! The only thing that slows motorists down is speed cameras - and then its only for the few meters in the camera's range.
However, speed does not kill - inappropriate speed does. (http://www.safespee
d.org.uk/)
Tom, chorleywood says...
5:09pm Fri 11 Jan 08
I am a student at clement danes and i know Chloe personally because i am/possibly spending a whole month of my summer holidays with her this year, as 3 groups from our school are going to tanzania.
There was a comment that i read earlier this week about girl, from my school, who got run over and killed 10 years ago when crossing the road. The parent who posted this comment obviously did not know that the child who got killed was not crossing Chorleywood Road coming into school but was run over after her ballet lesson. I think you should know that before you go and point the finger at people.
Also i would like to say that this was an accident and you cannot blame anyone for this. The council can possibly be blamed for it, but as you all know it is an A road and putting a zebra crossing there would be stupid. Admittedly there is an island just 30m down the road where students can cross, but to be honest its in the wrong place because the students who do park on the Sarratt side don't walk that way into school.
I am on the schools student council and i will be proposing that we ask the county council to build an under pass for the students to go under the road safely and effectively.
Although it is too late to have prevented Chloe's accident, we can still stop accidents from occurring in the future.
"if Chloe had been in year 7 she would have died", fellow student.
Chris Smith, Watford says...
10:58pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Chris Smith, Watford says...
10:59pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Paul, Bushey says...
5:57am Sat 12 Jan 08
scd parent, chorleywood says...
8:03pm Sun 13 Jan 08
anon, herts says...
12:27pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Peter, Chorleywood says...
1:37pm Sat 19 Jan 08
Then risking their lives by crossing the Chorleywood Road A404 .
I would say that either Clement Danes should ban sixth formers from driving to school or expand their car park so that they can park within in the school's boundary.
They have essentially done nothing to resolve 'an accident waiting to happen' themselves.
parent, herts says...
8:33am Thu 24 Jan 08
anon wrote:without prejudice.
in reply to anna rack with ref;to was the driver on a mobile phone at the time of the accident NO HE WAS NOT USING A MOBILE PHONE AT THE TIME.I also know the driver very well.The girl ran across the road and slipped on the wet road in front of the vechile,the vechile which could not avoid hitting her.All the comments are towards the injured girl.Nodody has made refernce to the poor driver who also has to live with the terriable accident for the rest of there life as well.
Were you at the scene of the accident? How come you are so sure of events?Unless you were your comments are unhelpful unless to the approriate authorities. I have no doubt that the driver will have to carry this around for the rest of his life. How do you think Our daughter and we, her family feel? Our 16 yr old beautiful, bright ,witty, popular,loving(to mention but a few words to describer Chloe)daughter has had her life turned in an instant.She is a fighter and will amaze as she has so far, but please don't think for even one moment that Chloe will not have to live with this, and the implications for the rest of her life.
I will take this opportunity to put a few facts abou other comments.
Chloe has a bus pass, but took a lift with a friend who was driving to Chorleywood Station.
North Hill is not an appropriate walking route and there is no footpath.
Chloe was not on her mobile phone. It was in her bag
Unhelpful cooments regarding the schools admission policy and several other ones in this comment section are being used as a forum to bring other unhelpful and unrelated issues to the fore. That having been said we are very grateful for all the messgaes of support for Chloe.
lion330, home says...
9:50pm Sat 26 Jan 08
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Mike, Amersham says...
11:30am Tue 8 Jan 08
On the other hand, if parents insist on driving their kids to school, they just make the traffic worse and more dangerous to cross the road.
The traffic here is not a problem when the school is shut.
http://www.walktosch
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