Nearby Rickmansworth? are you having a F@@@ing laugh, and where the hell is Waterdale? It's the busiest site why close it, would it be the fact that it's already been sold to a housing development?
I will not be going to either Rickmansworth or Garston, I'll just dump it in Oxhey Park and they want us to recycle more? UTTER UTTER JOKE, they've all gone mad!!

As usual Scudder is tub thumping VoR is probably right and Watford Council will flog this site off as well - more money to give Downhill Dorothy another payrise because sure as eggs is eggs they won't reduce our council tax. At the end of the day Watford Fib Dems will blame it all on someone else while they rub their hands collecting more cash. Remember that they can get rid of all the workers too!!! Even more money for Dorothy - next thing you know as this rate never mind Oxhey she'll soon be able to afford an even bigger house in Hempstead Road (with iron gates just like Maggie)

Actually, I think closing is sensible. Traffic queues in both directions on busy weekends and windy weather blows debris into the park and river. I feel sorry for the nearby householders who have put up with this site for so many years - I am sure they will be happy when the site is closed.

This land is very close to the land that is being used for the new access road to the hospital, curious coincidence isn't it?

So where do we take our rubbish? 10 or so miles away?

To you Mr Derrick Ashley I ask how can you say There are many financial constraints placed upon us so it's necessary that we look to make efficiency savings wherever possible, without compromising on services shutting down the Wiggenhall Road site will seriously compromise services.

Who voted these clowns in? I don't remember doing so.

Thank you for your helpful comments Mr Howard.

Traffic going into the Wiggenhall Road depot is a nuisense, but you can get around the queue easily enough.

If traffic were to queue getting into the Rickmansworth depot then the road would be impassable. There is no way around the queue as it's so close to the roundabout.

Arthur - more confusion. This is about the County Council's site that is open to the public, not the Wiggenhall Road depot run by Watford.

Outrageous. And this isn't WBC fault, it's Herts CC that want it closed. I use the Waterdale site in Garston and I must admit, that site is perfect but to shut one of the busiest sites in the county when we are trying to recycle more, just because they can't expand the site is a joke. Although I have some sympathy for people who live near a waste disposal site, they did choose to live there in the first place - its not like these waste diposal sites are new! To say people should go to Ricky or Garston when they live in Central and West Watford is just going to add to traffic congestion and make the Ricky and Garston sites unbelievably busy. Herts CC, be sensible for a change and drop this stupid, ridiculous proposal - otherwise, your morons!

I know that having been a Watfordian since 1938, many things have and will change, and of course we can not stop that.
But we could at least have Honesty from Watford Council as to the real reason for this earmarked closure.
I tend to think the same way as VoR does.
Development here we come.
Next it will be your back gardens, compulsary purchase, or dig your own fly tip.

Just dump all of your rubbish in nearby Riverside Road... hey presto - problem solved and no one will ever notice the difference.

Arthur wrote:
As usual Scudder is tub thumping VoR is probably right and Watford Council will flog this site off as well - more money to give Downhill Dorothy another payrise because sure as eggs is eggs they won't reduce our council tax. At the end of the day Watford Fib Dems will blame it all on someone else while they rub their hands collecting more cash. Remember that they can get rid of all the workers too!!! Even more money for Dorothy - next thing you know as this rate never mind Oxhey she'll soon be able to afford an even bigger house in Hempstead Road (with iron gates just like Maggie)

Obviously you are trying to make political points by making personal smears, but your totally wrong. It's the (Conservative) Hertfordshire County Council - not Watford Borough Council who are proposing this. It is clear that Watford are against this.
(BTW by all independent audit commission accounts Watford Council has completely turnaround for the better since Dorothy got in. Thats a fact)

This move is purely motivated by a desire to save money. Herts County do not own Wiggenhall and have to rent the space from Watford Borough. The closure would impact not just Watford residents, but also those in South Oxhey and Carpenders Park. critically it would also be bad news for those who live in Bushey, who would have to take a longer journey to get to the alternative sites. Bushey (Hertsmere) has a terrible domestic waste and doorstep recycling service compared to both Watford and Three Rivers and the recycling services at Wiggenhall are vital. I suggest the county look for a new facility if Wiggenhall is not up to scratch. But I bet they would not find Bushey that easy a place to replicate the Wiggenhall facility.

The Plinth of Darkneth wrote:
Just dump all of your rubbish in nearby Riverside Road... hey presto - problem solved and no one will ever notice the difference.

Nice one, but I think Tory Boy might have something to say about that.....as is his wont.

Its them Tories at County again, Fire Stations, Unwanted Telecoms Masts and now Waste sites. Remember Remember.

Ian Brandon wrote:
Outrageous. And this isn't WBC fault, it's Herts CC that want it closed. I use the Waterdale site in Garston and I must admit, that site is perfect but to shut one of the busiest sites in the county when we are trying to recycle more, just because they can't expand the site is a joke. Although I have some sympathy for people who live near a waste disposal site, they did choose to live there in the first place - its not like these waste diposal sites are new! To say people should go to Ricky or Garston when they live in Central and West Watford is just going to add to traffic congestion and make the Ricky and Garston sites unbelievably busy. Herts CC, be sensible for a change and drop this stupid, ridiculous proposal - otherwise, your morons!

Hello,did you ever go to the Watford site?the traffic on a weekend was off the scale so closing it will EASE traffic congestion.I recall non of this when Hunton Bridge was closed and since then recycling has increased.These recycling plants are old and dated,far too small for the job in hand and it makes more sense to have big up to date sites for modern recycling.Ricky will be next.It makes sense if it saves over £100,000.I know this would never be knocked off the council tax bill but at least its not another £115,000 increase.I dont know if youve noticed but the binmen recycle every week from your house and most of the rubbish you would take down the dump can be put in your bin(bit at a time if need be)thats how i get around going to the dump.Its only nessessary to go to the dump a lot,if you make a load of rubbish,which makes it a bit rich to jump on the be kind to the environment bandwaggon.Bet you dont give it a second thought,jumping in your car and going shopping at Tesco's...I can see the bigger picture here and i believe this will encourage re-cycling as people will make sure they take only full loads.

barbelybob wrote:

Ian Brandon wrote:
Outrageous. And this isn't WBC fault, it's Herts CC that want it closed. I use the Waterdale site in Garston and I must admit, that site is perfect but to shut one of the busiest sites in the county when we are trying to recycle more, just because they can't expand the site is a joke. Although I have some sympathy for people who live near a waste disposal site, they did choose to live there in the first place - its not like these waste diposal sites are new! To say people should go to Ricky or Garston when they live in Central and West Watford is just going to add to traffic congestion and make the Ricky and Garston sites unbelievably busy. Herts CC, be sensible for a change and drop this stupid, ridiculous proposal - otherwise, your morons!

Hello,did you ever go to the Watford site?the traffic on a weekend was off the scale so closing it will EASE traffic congestion.I recall non of this when Hunton Bridge was closed and since then recycling has increased.These recycling plants are old and dated,far too small for the job in hand and it makes more sense to have big up to date sites for modern recycling.Ricky will be next.It makes sense if it saves over £100,000.I know this would never be knocked off the council tax bill but at least its not another £115,000 increase.I dont know if youve noticed but the binmen recycle every week from your house and most of the rubbish you would take down the dump can be put in your bin(bit at a time if need be)thats how i get around going to the dump.Its only nessessary to go to the dump a lot,if you make a load of rubbish,which makes it a bit rich to jump on the be kind to the environment bandwaggon.Bet you dont give it a second thought,jumping in your car and going shopping at Tesco's...I can see the bigger picture here and i believe this will encourage re-cycling as people will make sure they take only full loads.

Show's how much you know, Ricky has just been refurbished, only opened last month.

MIke wrote:

Arthur wrote: As usual Scudder is tub thumping VoR is probably right and Watford Council will flog this site off as well - more money to give Downhill Dorothy another payrise because sure as eggs is eggs they won't reduce our council tax. At the end of the day Watford Fib Dems will blame it all on someone else while they rub their hands collecting more cash. Remember that they can get rid of all the workers too!!! Even more money for Dorothy - next thing you know as this rate never mind Oxhey she'll soon be able to afford an even bigger house in Hempstead Road (with iron gates just like Maggie)

Obviously you are trying to make political points by making personal smears, but your totally wrong. It's the (Conservative) Hertfordshire County Council - not Watford Borough Council who are proposing this. It is clear that Watford are against this. (BTW by all independent audit commission accounts Watford Council has completely turnaround for the better since Dorothy got in. Thats a fact)

And you're not making a political point I suppose? Regrettably for you the whole of the present Canbinet voted alongside Labour on every policy plank leading to the collapse of Watford's accounting system. The subsequent audit problem was the result. It is a matter of fact that all Lib Dems voted with Labour against the Tories who put forward a motion to bring in Government Inspectors at a very early stage of the problem. You clearly only have a "rose-coloured glasses" version of what went wrong. The fact is that we still pay the 3rd highest Council tax in the Country which is 40% more than everyone else in Hertfordshire - we've had millions in cuts which would easily bring Watford's Council Tax to the County average. If you knew anything about how the Audit Commission work you would be just as sceptical about the so-caled "turn around" of Watford. All Dorrothy has overseen is the squaring up of the accounting systems which had to happened under whoever ran Watford. This was achieved by write-offs of uncertain amounts. The rest of it has been meeting Government targets on the time it takes to do various things like granting licences and planning permissions within certain timescales. This is easy to achieve - you just say "yes" to everything. Witness all the dodgy offies we've now got all over the town and the awful buildings going up everywhere. Watford is on a trip down the Yellow Brick Road which will end in grief. There are loads of well run Labour Councils up and down the Country. Downhill Dorothy only looks good because the Lib Dems compare her to Vince Muspratt and he was by no shadow of the imagination an oil painting.

Spencer Agneau wrote:

barbelybob wrote:

Ian Brandon wrote:
Outrageous. And this isn't WBC fault, it's Herts CC that want it closed. I use the Waterdale site in Garston and I must admit, that site is perfect but to shut one of the busiest sites in the county when we are trying to recycle more, just because they can't expand the site is a joke. Although I have some sympathy for people who live near a waste disposal site, they did choose to live there in the first place - its not like these waste diposal sites are new! To say people should go to Ricky or Garston when they live in Central and West Watford is just going to add to traffic congestion and make the Ricky and Garston sites unbelievably busy. Herts CC, be sensible for a change and drop this stupid, ridiculous proposal - otherwise, your morons!

Hello,did you ever go to the Watford site?the traffic on a weekend was off the scale so closing it will EASE traffic congestion.I recall non of this when Hunton Bridge was closed and since then recycling has increased.These recycling plants are old and dated,far too small for the job in hand and it makes more sense to have big up to date sites for modern recycling.Ricky will be next.It makes sense if it saves over £100,000.I know this would never be knocked off the council tax bill but at least its not another £115,000 increase.I dont know if youve noticed but the binmen recycle every week from your house and most of the rubbish you would take down the dump can be put in your bin(bit at a time if need be)thats how i get around going to the dump.Its only nessessary to go to the dump a lot,if you make a load of rubbish,which makes it a bit rich to jump on the be kind to the environment bandwaggon.Bet you dont give it a second thought,jumping in your car and going shopping at Tesco's...I can see the bigger picture here and i believe this will encourage re-cycling as people will make sure they take only full loads.

Show's how much you know, Ricky has just been refurbished, only opened last month.

You are either really naive or very young and inexperienced to think that in this day and age,something which has had a shed load of money spent on it,is safe from closure.

The Wiggenhall Road site is undoubtedly small, cramped, badly designed and a cause of potentially dangerous road congestion. All these defects were pointed out at the time the dump was rebuilt in its present format but Hertfordshire County Council built it that way, anyway!!

There was a scheme announced some time ago, to relocate the dump site to a position immediately across the road, on the site of the old carriage sheds. Such a site would be considerably bigger and therefore much easier to use and would very likely remove the traffic congestion problem.

Whatever became of this apparently brilliant idea? We pay enough in council tax for HCC to proceed with the scheme!!

Where are all the environmentalists on this subject... If we have to travel further to recycle will this not create more pollution for the environment? Once we have dumped our rubbish, due to the fact it has been in our cars longer and all manner of things may have spilt out will we not have to get the car cleaned... again more damage to the environment. It may well save HCC money but in the long run it will be the environment that suffers once again..

I HAVE NOT USED WIGGENHALL ROAD FOR OVER A YEAR SINCE DRIVING UP THE M1 TO J6 THEN TURNING LEFT BACK TO WATFORD USING THE DUMP ON THE DUAL CARRIAGEWAY WHICH IS FAR MORE ORGANISED AND CLEAN AND FOR THE SMALL JOURNEY JUST ONE JUNCTION UP THE MOTORWAY IT MAKES DISPOSING OF HOUSEHOLD RUBBISH A FAR MORE PLEASANT EXPERIENCE italic