Tories feel the heat (From Watford Observer)
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Tories feel the heat
9:39am Friday 8th August 2008 in
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A comprehensive inquiry into the Watford Conservative Party must be launched to discover how Ian Oakley was able to sustain his three-year campaign of hate, Liberal Democrats have said.
The party has, both nationally and locally, called for Conservative leader David Cameron to investigate the town’s Tories and find out how Oakley was able to continue his sick programme of attacks.
On Tuesday, the 31-year-old parliamentary hopeful pleaded guilty to 75 separate cases of harassment, criminal damage and intimidation, directed towards his political rivals and Liberal Democrat supporters.
The true horror of his prolonged harassment of election rival, Sal Brinton, was also revealed in St Albans Magistrates Court.
The court heard Oakley had sent pornographic images to his rivals’ homes, distributed poison-pen letters branding two Lib Dems paedophiles and painted obscenities on dozens of cars and homes.
Following the revelations, local and national politicians have questioned how Oakley was able to win selection in 2006 and how his vile campaign went unnoticed for so long.
Oakley was elected by an innovative, open primary system in November 2006.
Liberal Democrat MP, Ed Davey has already written to Mr Cameron demanding a full inquiry to “ensure such an appalling course of events is never repeated”.
The Conservative Central Office said yesterday it would not launch any investigation until Oakley had been sentenced.
Mayor of Watford, Dorothy Thornhill, said she was “disgusted” by the national party’s attempt to wash its hands of its former candidate.
She said: “I am just quite simply relieved it is all over and we can get back to business as usual.
“But I am shocked we have had no formal apology and I am disgusted by the way the national Conservative Party has distanced itself from the situation.”
Oakley’s sensational admissions have also called into question the legitimacy of three election results in Watford.
In 2006, Conservative councillor Zoe McQuire was elected to the council seat in Park ward by just three votes.
The following year, in the Leggatts ward, Amanda Grimston was returned by the margin of two votes.
And at this years’ election in Nascot, Conservative leader Andrew Mortimer was re-elected by 47 votes.
It emerged in court that in the build-up to that election Russell Willson, Councillor Mortimer’s main rival had been the target of Ian Oakley’s harassment.
While nobody is suggesting any of the councillors were part of Oakley’s plans, Councillor Steve Rackett, of the Green Party, says the trio could have been the unwitting benefactors of his actions.
He has called for by-elections to be held in all three seats.
Councillor Rackett said: “Clearly campaign workers and party activists can not function as well when they are being subjected to intimidation and harassment. It calls into question the legitimacy of the results and the legitimacy of their mandates.”
Councillor Rackett said he had already written to the central Conservative headquarters demanding it suspend the local Conservative party.
Comments(35)
Spencer Agneau
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3:03pm Fri 8 Aug 08
barbelybob
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6:13pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Joker.Why do you bother when you always end up sounding like a plum.You are talking about politics mush,which means dirty tricks,lies and corruption plus a few dirty tricks....just ask your boy oaten about dirty tricks hahaha
Up the raving looney party...
The Plinth of Darkneth
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6:46pm Fri 8 Aug 08
barbelybob wrote:BarbelyBob has a point here.
Just like your lot would...eh
Joker.Why do you bother when you always end up sounding like a plum.You are talking about politics mush,which means dirty tricks,lies and corruption plus a few dirty tricks....just ask your boy oaten about dirty tricks hahaha
Up the raving looney party...
Oaten was a disgrace and his actions brought shame upon him, his wife, family and the constituency and party for whom he represented.
Dirty tricks? I understand the press could not publish what went on in Oaten's charades, they could only describe them as 'unspeakable acts'.
Use your imagination.
barbelybob
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8:38pm Fri 8 Aug 08
The Plinth of Darkneth wrote:He was definately scatty (look up scat on google)lol..
barbelybob wrote:
Just like your lot would...eh
Joker.Why do you bother when you always end up sounding like a plum.You are talking about politics mush,which means dirty tricks,lies and corruption plus a few dirty tricks....just ask your boy oaten about dirty tricks hahaha
Up the raving looney party...BarbelyBob has a point here.
Oaten was a disgrace and his actions brought shame upon him, his wife, family and the constituency and party for whom he represented.
Dirty tricks? I understand the press could not publish what went on in Oaten's charades, they could only describe them as 'unspeakable acts'.
Use your imagination.
The tory plum is clearly mad lol and needs our sympathy rather than our condemnation hahahaha
Spencer Agneau
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9:13pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Somerset College of Arts and Technology is what google gives up for scat, I always new you were very fishy Mr Barbely (do you really have a Bar belly) . Digging back further remember AHAB, Archer, Hamilton, Aitkin, and more recently Black (Conrad) All ended up in Court.
barbelybob
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10:06pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Spencer Agneau wrote:Always knew you were a bullsh1tter spence,the first hit on google explains my point.Seems you are no different to the losers you follow lol.You think that if you convince yourself,you will convince everyone else.Did you spell it right,SCAT,try again.Barbelybob stems from my prowess with a fishing rod,not a hint of a gut ha.Going back to your tories,they are no longer MPs so your point is really invalid.As for mr Oaten,he is still a poxy lib dem MP and just for the reason you allow that sort of thing in your party is reason enough not to vote them in.Remember Spence,soliciting a prostitute is illegal,so is taking drugs,both happily done by your Mr Oaten.Just because he avoided court,does not mean he didnt break the law.Just type scat and you will see where your lot are going,hint look above Somerset college,you know the FIRST website on the list,not one of your choosing.
As despicable as Oaten was, he still didn't end up in court.
Somerset College of Arts and Technology is what google gives up for scat, I always new you were very fishy Mr Barbely (do you really have a Bar belly) . Digging back further remember AHAB, Archer, Hamilton, Aitkin, and more recently Black (Conrad) All ended up in Court.
Spencer Agneau
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10:52pm Fri 8 Aug 08
barbelybob
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6:36am Sat 9 Aug 08
Spencer Agneau
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12:43pm Sat 9 Aug 08
I just believe that in this country you are not guilty until proven. That words and insinuations in newspapers are not always true, as can be seen on many occasions when somebody can afford to take them to court.
In Barbelybobs world, houses daubed with P*do harbour someone guilty, after all the N.O.W. said Oaten was a scat.....
Don't believe all you read in newspapers most is for sensationalism, after all who wants to know when someone catches a fish.
I happen to be an optimist, BBob is a pessimist.
barbelybob
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4:28pm Sat 9 Aug 08
Spencer Agneau wrote:Let me explain in simple terms for you,if these accusations in the NOW were not true,why has he kept stum and no legal action?Im sure if i was accused of something i didnt do,id sue.You are SO wrong about me being a pessimist,im the most happy go lucky bloke youll never meet.My glass is always half full.
BBob, why do you always have to resort to name calling and insinuation. This is supposed to be a forum for discussion.
I just believe that in this country you are not guilty until proven. That words and insinuations in newspapers are not always true, as can be seen on many occasions when somebody can afford to take them to court.
In Barbelybobs world, houses daubed with P*do harbour someone guilty, after all the N.O.W. said Oaten was a scat.....
Don't believe all you read in newspapers most is for sensationalism, after all who wants to know when someone catches a fish.
I happen to be an optimist, BBob is a pessimist.
As for being a fcuking optimist....your a friggin liberal,how can you be optimistic supporting that lot of indecisive plonkers,you are like a dog,always chasing their tail lol.As for name calling,im as common as muck and what you see is what you get,like it or lump it and im proud to be me...can you say the same?..
Spencer Agneau
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10:46pm Sat 9 Aug 08
SA 'when somebody can afford to take them to court'.
So you are likely to be able to afford it, being 'as common as muck'?
BBob - 'your a friggin liberal'.
SA I'm anti Tory nothing else. The libs are pretty good in my neck of the woods TRDC is well run, so they are not a lot of indecisive plonkers. I just don't want people to forget what the true colours of the Torys are, and Ian Oakley just proves my point.
barbelybob
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6:50am Sun 10 Aug 08
Of course its well run down your neck of the woods,all the money lives there,i bet its well run on the Moor Park Est and Loudwater as well.What world do you live in?have you ever ventured out of Sarratt?
So you think the Tories are the only lot who resort to Oakley's methods,grow up son and open your eyes,we are talking politics here and we all know politicians are barring the odd few,totally corrupt to the point where they dont give a flying fcuk about me or you cos they know if they get in they will feather their nest for life.Just look at the expences,pay and perks that they all desperately protect,regardless of the public outcry.
So your anti Tory,why live in a Tory area,full of Tories?get yourself over the Meriden, no Tories here hahaha..
Spencer Agneau
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10:39am Sun 10 Aug 08
At least all the money in my neck of the woods is not being used by a Tory administration, so no feathering of nests here.
barbelybob
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2:22pm Sun 10 Aug 08
As for the money not being used by a tory administration,sarra
tt is as tory as they come you plank,tory county councillor,tory district councillor and tory mp,your surrounded.
As for the lib dems,the money they waste is a crime and every year they thrust out their grubbing mits for more of my dosh to waste.So your a Lib Dem spence...does that mean your Spence on the Fence...boom boom
Spencer Agneau
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9:45pm Sun 10 Aug 08
Sarratt might be tory but its in trdc which isnt.
Never seen any of your posts being positive, life is not as bad as you make out. Some of my posts may be anti tory, but I often post positive opinions, especially when someone is trying to achieve something for where they live. How about some positives from you for a change.
barbelybob
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7:00am Mon 11 Aug 08
Spencer Agneau wrote:The reason you dont see positive posts from me is because as we have seen,your very selective.
BB, cant you see thats the point, surrounded and trying to change peoples thinking. If you don't vote you shouldn't complain, its easy for a pessimist to complain, stand for election yourself. (Still don't quite know exactly what you stand for - except anti politicians, pro fishing, anti football, oh and anti Oaten, no opinion on Oakley yet)
Sarratt might be tory but its in trdc which isnt.
Never seen any of your posts being positive, life is not as bad as you make out. Some of my posts may be anti tory, but I often post positive opinions, especially when someone is trying to achieve something for where they live. How about some positives from you for a change.
So you think that just because i dont support Watford i am not a footy fan..as we have seen before,spence is WRONG.Im a Mackem through and through.
Just because i dont support any of the parties prooves that i can think for myself and i refuse to vote in any of em,they are corrupt to the core.
Maybe some of my posts are negative but look at the world spence its not the same as 30 years ago,all the stories are doom and gloom.Just lok on the Meriden last week,maybe you get my drift.
Maybe i dont like the libs because of what i see them doing to watford.Dodgy planning applications,sky high Ctax(with fcuk all to show for it),gridlocked town centres,dodgy traffic calming measures,crime going off the scale,town centres like the wild west,more pubs than shops in the high street.Maybe none of this concerns you seeing as your shut away in Sarratt but live with it day in day out and maybe you would be a bit irked mush.Then add to that the party that runs Watford(which im proud to be born and bred)sits pretty with an MP who does these unpeakable things and keeps him in the party while expeling a councillor who got p1ssed and drove.You see it seems that your ok on pissheads on one hand CKennedy but not with his underlings,priceless
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As for Oakley,i dont know too much about it but it seems he called people names and keyed a car or too,hardly a hanging offence and i was told that sticks and stones etc
I agree life is great(ive never had it so good) but the stories are doom and gloom,how do you put a positive spin on many of the stories i comment on?and if you took the time to read the posts carefully you would find i often post concerning other posts rather than the story,like yourself.
Molly Newman
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8:39am Mon 11 Aug 08
He said earlier he would most likely vote tory. That comes as no surprise.
Spencer Agneau
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10:32am Mon 11 Aug 08
So it was better 30 years ago, when Maggie was in power, I don't think so, my dad was made redundant, my brother lost his house, there was a war in the Falklands, there was greed everywhere. You obviously didn't do History at school.
Why support Sunderland? (Not saying they are a bad team especially with Super Kev.)
I know one of the people Oakley tormented, she was frightened to go out at night, had her car tyres slashed (all four) and had to spend a fortune setting up a camrea system to help catch the ar*hole.
I am beginning to fell sorry for you mate, try fishing for Carp, they are much easier to catch, then you wont get a chance to sit around and stew.
barbelybob
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2:21pm Mon 11 Aug 08
Molly Newman wrote:Your absolutely right my dear,i feel what Oakley did as nothing compared to Oaten yet at least the Tories kicked him out,you lot would do anything to avoid a by-election that you would certainly have lost including having a filthy pervert as an MP.Now do me a favour Molly and fcuk off please,youve nothing of interst to say....
Seems barbelybob is prepared to put a positive gloss on an attack on democracy, poison pen letters, criminal damage etc.
He said earlier he would most likely vote tory. That comes as no surprise.
barbelybob
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2:36pm Mon 11 Aug 08
Spencer Agneau wrote:Spence you assume WRONGLY ,again,
BB, I wonder what paper you read, must be the Mail, they always report the doom and gloom you seem to think is everywhere.
So it was better 30 years ago, when Maggie was in power, I don't think so, my dad was made redundant, my brother lost his house, there was a war in the Falklands, there was greed everywhere. You obviously didn't do History at school.
Why support Sunderland? (Not saying they are a bad team especially with Super Kev.)
I know one of the people Oakley tormented, she was frightened to go out at night, had her car tyres slashed (all four) and had to spend a fortune setting up a camrea system to help catch the ar*hole.
I am beginning to fell sorry for you mate, try fishing for Carp, they are much easier to catch, then you wont get a chance to sit around and stew.
bit of a habit your getting boy.
So Maggie was in power 30 years ago,again WRONG
Falklands was 30 years ago again WRONG
If your old man was made redundent 30 years ago how the fcuk is that down to Maggie?seems your old fella will blame anyone lol.
Your brother lost his house because he couldnt afford it,plain and simple,not anyones fault but his.
Im not condoning what Oakley has done but its not that bad in my book,a bit off name-calling ok the criminal damage was out of order but there are literally hundreds of kids every night doing the same.
Please Spence,i dont need your pity,ive experienced so much in my life,not all good but rich in lifes lessons and i wouldnt swop with anybody.For your imformation i have already done the Carp bit and it dosent do it for me,much prefer to stalk my fish on a river.Maybe you and Molly should hook up Spence,i hear she takes it up the arris just like your good self....how you enjoying your six weeks off....
Spencer Agneau
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4:06pm Mon 11 Aug 08
I still feel sorry for you, heres me having a good banter and you have to once again resort to obscenities.
I knew you read the Mail !!!
barbelybob
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5:18pm Mon 11 Aug 08
Also can i give you one tip,dont believe everything your old man has told you because his pitfalls have moulded your political leanings,which are clearly biased.
Let me get you straight on one thing about Maragret Thatcher.What she did achieve was to smash the unions to pieces(no mean feat)kicked the miner arses and showed them who was running the counrty.Now you would think i would be on the miners side because of my family background and the fact my old fella was a miner...NOT.You see i make up my own mind on politics and cannot vote Labour like my old fella did.
As for the Falklands,what the fcuk else would you have done if you were invaded by a foreign army?hardly her fault would you not agree?
Remember this also,the fact your brother was able to buy a house in the first place was because MT made it possible,it was not her fault he couldnt pay for it.
One last thing spence ,im not going to apologise for obscenities because that is me,a course hard working man but then i suppose you havent come across(forgive the pun) many of those in your life,have you?.Chow
Spencer Agneau
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5:46pm Tue 12 Aug 08
Anyway it was you who harked back on the good times 30 years ago, I was mearly pointing out that not everyone thought they were better times.
Redundancy caused the loss of his house, he couldn't afford it after losing his job also. The 80's were bad times I knew 5 people who were made redundant, families & lives ruined. I just don't want to go back to times like that. I am a hard working man, I support good causes, and will put myself out to help peolpe and expect no reward.
Thats the trouble with most Tories they are only in it for themselves, although there are a couple of good ones in Three Rivers.
barbelybob
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6:20pm Tue 12 Aug 08
Stop believing its only the tories who are in it for themselves,remember dorothy the watford lib who gave herself a pay rise,when her concillors froze theirs and all the freebies the libs seem to enjoy.
Again,if your bro lost his house its his fault mush,sorry to say.Nothing in life lasts forever and i wouldnt expect any job i have to last 30 years,maybe the problem was he couldnt afford it....no?,i dont blame antone if the new car i want is too expensive and if i bought it on hp and failed the payments i wouldnt blame anyone but myself.You see people nowadays look for too many excuses rather than admiting the obvious.
You keep banging on about Tories and ive already said im no tory but i will say i think Maggie was the b0llocks,took no sh1t and smashed the unions to bits.Look at the mess we are in now with the unions basically funding the government and strikes every other day and the government can do fcuk all about it but concede.Suicidal concidering the mother of all recessions is almost on us.We are all working longer to allow the easylife public sector workers to retire early..priceless.It dosent matter who is in power,even the greens would be corrupted by it,and there is some truth that power is addictive,the more you get,the more you want,just look at Blair and Brown.All we need is that doughnut Clegg and we will have a full house.
As much as i liked life 30 years back i know the past does not exist,its gone and so is the Britain we all knew,we aint great anymore and we had better get used to it cos weve got a fair way to fall yet .I dont believe in the future either as again it dosent exist(yet) so spence if i can give you one word of advice,live for the moment,enjoy it,savour it.If your in two minds about something just do it and worry about the concequences later as the opportunity may pass you by.
Molly Newman
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8:02am Wed 13 Aug 08
Actually the Falklands war will be regarded by history as an utter failure by MT in foreign policy terms. She practically invited the argies in when she tried to save £4m by withdrawing the Endurance. She was warned at the time and I remember seeing a TV programme saying how dangerous the withdrawal would be. Still only a thousand poor sods died so she could win the next election. I bet she thought that was a bargain.
barbelybob
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12:55pm Wed 13 Aug 08
you see Spence its not just me who sinks to name calling and she is one of yours.With people like you molly,harrassing libs should be a national sport....shoo
Spencer Agneau
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3:27pm Wed 13 Aug 08
This will probably draw more words of disdain from BB, me thinks he likes the aggro.
barbelybob
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7:26pm Wed 13 Aug 08
I've always been sceptical of liberals and you two reinforce this.Your not this,your not that, in fact you don't know what you are,a bit like a bi-sexual.You don't know if your arthur or martha.Maybe you 2 should get together,your made for each other.
Spencer Agneau
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6:12pm Thu 14 Aug 08
barbelybob
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9:55pm Thu 14 Aug 08
Have you thought about the fact that someone can have political views,without subscribing to any particular party?
Read the fcuking post before posting,you gormless pr1ck.Iraq came as a response to you going on about the Falklands and cost cutting and that was an example.
I will always be a bigger man than you spence and i would have no problem admitting anything,least of all being a Tory,but im not,plain and simple.Maybe the tories are Bobsters,ever thought of that.You are nothing but a fcuking wet lettuce Spencer my boy,a total plonker.I dont want you to see things my way and i will never,ever see things from a sit on the fence,have no policy liberal,like yourself.Never have i experienced a more dithering bunch in my life,a total muddle of a party.I pity anyone who votes any of the main parties but particularly yours.I will take being called any name in the book but i am not having you call me a tory,end of.People can be ever so brave sat at a computer,even snotnose ar5eholes like yourself.Be very careful what you wish for spence as your on very thin ice..
Speedydog
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10:49pm Thu 14 Aug 08
I think he's a Tory too.
'I will always be a bigger man than you spence' he said, that proves he has a Bar Belly, probably hasn't seen his todger for a while too. HaHaHa WoofWoof.
Bar Belly, will I get more expletives than Spence?
barbelybob
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6:27am Fri 15 Aug 08
Speedydog wrote:Why is it,when you think you experienced the biggest d1ckhead about,someone trumps them...what a wank8r speedy frog is.Whats up mush,will noone chat with you.On your own are you tonite for a session of self abuse lol.If i havent seen my pr1ck for a while its because i have had a fine **** on it or a lovely pair of lips(did that make you come frog?)you will go blind if your not careful.As for the belly frog...not a hint,ask the women lol because unlike you frog,i dont have a problem with the ladies,never have
Well Spence, you really rubbed him up this time,pr1ck, fcuking and ar5eholes all taken from his rant.
I think he's a Tory too.
'I will always be a bigger man than you spence' he said, that proves he has a Bar Belly, probably hasn't seen his todger for a while too. HaHaHa WoofWoof.
Bar Belly, will I get more expletives than Spence?
The funniest thing is you seem to think anyone gives a sh1t what you have to say and you are so wrong,your a nobody from that little known backwater Ricky whose only redeeming feature is a fcuking puddle and your ever so proud of council dump...big deal.
Spence will always be a bigger man than you and hes still in nappies so do the world a favour frog and crawl back under your pebble and keep praying for a woman,keep faith,it might happen.
The fact you used the word todger means you are either very old or a woman(single)....whi
ch is it frog.
Spencer Agneau
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10:13am Fri 15 Aug 08
Glad to see Democracy is at work, so far its 3 against you Bar Belly.
Here's me thinking we could have an intelligent conversation and all you finally resort to is name calling, sexual innuendo and area denigration.
barbelybob
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10:37am Fri 15 Aug 08
I can talk about any subject you want and twist you in knots including sex and women,which i will admit im a big fan of,like most normal blokes.So im not surprised you are offended by it as you seem to have had a very victorian upbringing.No doubt because of your isolated upbringing and being cut off from the real world and having to make do with your parents Narnia.
Now run along boy,with your fellow plums and leave me in peace as youve had more of my time than i would like...
Spencer Agneau
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12:58pm Fri 15 Aug 08
I am not offended by it, I just don't think its necessary.
You are more Victorian than me with your spouting about the working class.
Blinkered people like you with right wing leanings have always thought there is no other way except their own, hence Aitkin with his 'Sword of Truth' and Oakley with his back door tactics, all in your boat. Bet you can talk about anything, but is it worth listening to......
I have noted you always like the last word, bet that drives the women into you arms (with ear plugs firmly in place)
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