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Google tool will turn us into 'surveillance state'

A local politician has expressed her “astonishment” at Google's controversial new Street View function, saying it will help turn the UK into a “surveillance state”.

This week, internet giants Google launched its new on-line function which allows internet surfers to zoom in on digital pictures of roads across the globe, including many streets in Watford.

The launch comes after Google has spent a year driving cars around towns and villages throughout the country taking pictures to upload to their maps function.

The new cyber-gadget has been developed as part of Google Maps, but has been criticised because it show high quality photos of peoples' homes.

Faces of people captured on the street and car registration number plates have been blurred.

However, Sal Brinton, Liberal Democrat parliamentary candidate for Watford, has already expressed her concern.

She said: “I was astonished when I saw the detail of the photographs held in Google's database.

“The detail is very clear.

“Between the Labour Government and functionality like this we are turning into a surveillance state.

“The example that was drawn to my attention was that of one of our candidates who 'googled' her home address to find a picture of her car sat outside her home.”

Ms Brinton added: "This is an appalling invasion into our privacy. I am sure when people see the picture of their own homes, and the detail that has been collected they will be shocked.”

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Comments(18)

SouwfLondonHornet says...
10:15am Fri 20 Mar 09

We are already the most watched nation in the world. More CCTV per square mile than anywhere else in the world.
You have Gatso cameras for speeding, traffic cameras for the roads, everywhere is cctv recording out every move.
It is impossible to go on a journey anywhere in the UK and not be picked up by a camera!
Is this wrong? Does this infringe our civil liberties? Yes!
What have we done about it? Nothing, we have sat back and let this happen.
Why? Apathy!

After the Goldrush says...
10:16am Fri 20 Mar 09

Its not just these photos, google has a large data base on its users and has openly said they want to add as much as possible "to help us".
If this was our Government or worse, a foriegn Governments web site, the whole country would be up in arms but as its a "fun" site, everyone turnds a blind eye. Big Brother has arrived at the back door.

Roy Stockdill says...
10:31am Fri 20 Mar 09

How many people realise that, under a little-noticed law slipped in recently, it is now a criminal offence to take a photograph of a police officer if it might be held to be useful to a terrorist? Precisely how a court would establish that such a photo might or might not be useful to a terrorist the Home Office has so far been unable to say. However, the message is clear - don't take a photo of your kids or granny if there's a copper around who might accidentally stray into the frame!

I find this utterly beyond belief, yet beyond a protest at Scotland Yard by press photographers, nobody seems very bothered about it.

Yet the powers-that-be can photograph us at every opportunity. This country is truly already a neo-fascist totalitarian state.

crazyfrog says...
11:20am Fri 20 Mar 09

Iam under no illusion we have already sleepwalked into a police/surveilance state thanks to Nulabour, the soon this shower are out the better but mostly this technology has been used against us by the Labour government to extract the most amount of money possible, and as such a form of revenue generation any new government will be hard pressed to wean themseleves off this easily gained revenue, so even when NuLabour have gone i wouldnt count on a new government abolishing this camera revenue generating technology.

jesus loves you says...
11:22am Fri 20 Mar 09

For god's sake!! It's only a photo! If you have nothing wrong then why worry? I like Google street view, on a recent trip to the US, I got to see the hotel and the parking area behind it which helped me drive there! Also, I got to see the my cousin's new house in Oz, to me it's great!

So stop being such paraniod people and enjoy it!!

(is the world moving a lttle too fast for poor old Roy?)

Paradise Watford says...
11:28am Fri 20 Mar 09

Its understandable that some people are uncomfortable with all the surveilance cameras and what not but at the end of the day if you're not doing nowt wrong what is there to worry about?

At the very worst if you're a law abiding citizen you might happen to be near a crime scene and seen on cctv and asked to help with enquiries. But thats about it surely!

Anyway, its not the surveilance thats the worry its the law behind it. In the US they introduced so many laws in the name of combating terrorism that law enforcement agencies are actually using to monitor loads of non terrorist affiliated people, even people who know people who know people. Now THATS a worry, not street map.

Street map is a one of photo, its not constant streaming and what you get to see is a moment in time. If you happened to be doing something naughty or something you don't want others to know about then you'd be very unlucky to have been caught on camera!

And the technology is imperfect at this time, its new, but once its better refined then like they said all faces and number plates etc. will be smudged. And its always been a case that you can ask for your house to be smudged out too for those who are really paranoid!

Everyone practically has used google earth and there is no real outcry about that, well this is just an extention the only different is that it shows you a picture at street level rather than top down. Its clever, innovative and only intrusive (if at all) by accident

Dunk- says...
11:29am Fri 20 Mar 09


Google street maps cannot be used as a surveillance tool. The information you can gather from it is just a snapshot and is not timely.
Most peoples house have already been photographed by estate agents without your permission (the previous owner gave it).
The threat against your privacy is mainly from the information you already give out to the call centres located worldwide, where laws like our data protection one don't mean anything.

Roy, If a foreign or domestic intelligence service was collecting picures of service men, police men etc for future use (i.e. when peace deals go pear shaped) then I am not sure how you create a law to target them and not the public. Though it would more likley protect the police man from chavs smashing up his home once they discover the man on estate is a copper.

jesus loves you says...
11:45am Fri 20 Mar 09

I more worried about Facebook and the amount of information is held on the site about you. Just look at the adverts on the page, they are all direct marketing based on sex, age etc. I know that certain companies see Facebook as another country and market their goods directly to them!! So a picture taken a few months ago isn't a real security risk

watfordrick says...
1:19pm Fri 20 Mar 09

To all those who support this new tool (jesusloveyou etc) you obviousley do nothing wrong so aren't bothered about surveillance. You have to understand it affects other people thus I see it as a breach of human rights!

Paradise Watford says...
1:34pm Fri 20 Mar 09

But watfordrick, what you're saying is law abiding citizens don't need to be bothered but everyone else (i.e. those involved with breaking the law) do and its therefore a breach of human rights.

Sorry, but to me if you cross the line and break the law then you should not be able to hide behind your human rights and surveilance is more than appropriate and necessary.

As to Facebook, they can only take what you put on there so just be careful if you do use what you post, what pictures you show and what information you give out.

Just as you wouldn't give a stranger in the street your mobile phone number (I know, my request for a number has been rejected many a time by a fit lady) why give it out over the net!

mintygit says...
2:03pm Fri 20 Mar 09

I used this today to look at a few streets I know from years ago and was simply looking at streets from my childhood at how they have changed. I can't see anything wrong in this unless you have something to hide. It's not a breach of human rights.

Mike Ribble says...
4:05pm Fri 20 Mar 09

This is clearly a tool with many uses not least as a publicity op for wannabe MPs. Last week it was her dad's illness, now Google, next week watch out for Sal's outrage at ghosts secretly watching us in the park.

Well there's no such thing as bad publicity - is there?

Roy Stockdill says...
4:21pm Fri 20 Mar 09

>Its understandable that some people are uncomfortable with all the surveilance cameras and what not but at the end of the day if you're not doing nowt wrong what is there to worry about? <

That is a cliche that is trotted out so often that it becomes tedious to listen to! The point is not what the authorities might make of current laws but to what perverted use some future government might put them. Once laws enter the statute book they are hardly ever repealed.

An example - the police are covertly building up a national database of DNA samples, a great many of them given by innocent people who have committed no crime, for example witnesses of road accidents or burglaries. But can you imagine to what purposes some future totalitarian government might put such a database? What would Adolf Hitler have given, for instance, for an enormous database that told him instantly who was Jewish and who wasn't?

Those who cannot see the inherent dangers in all this surveillance are extremely short-sighted. Have we forgotten that a barmy council at Poole, Dorset, spent two weeks spying on a couple purely because officials thought they were trying to fiddle the school admissions system?

Roy Stockdill says...
8:11pm Fri 20 Mar 09

I think one point worth making about this new-fangled Google Street View is that it will probably become out of date fairly quickly unless updated regularly, and I imagine just one "sweep" of the whole country is very expensive.

I know that Google Earth is already well out of date, since the satellite view of my house shows fir trees in the back garden that we had cut down a couple of years ago or more because they had become too tall and a couple were leaning dangerously. According to Google Earth, however, they are still there.

Roy Stockdill says...
8:23pm Fri 20 Mar 09

>(is the world moving a lttle too fast for poor old Roy?)<

I probably know more about using computers and the Internet than 9 out of 10 people here. I use a digital camera regularly and have a very advanced hi-fi and visual-audio system, so I am well versed in modern technology (though I despise mobile phones and only use one when absolutely necessary).

However, I do worry about the ever-creeping advance of surveillance cameras and the development of vast national databases. We are told it is for our protection but I don't buy that. It seems to me we are steadily moving towards a society in which the government, and other less visible bodies, wish to keep all of us under constant surveillance 24 hours a day. And why? For no better reason than that modern technology says they can!

Seriously, has no-one read George Orwell's 1984 in which Big Brother has a state-controlled camera in every household in the land? We are gradually moving towards that situation and, as the Information Commissioner has said, we are "sleepwalking" into a surveillance state because far too many people are apathetic or are too ignorant to understand the consequences.

Andrew1963 says...
12:31am Sun 22 Mar 09

For all those who think we live in a policestate and on the brink of falling into a totallitarian state - i think you should reflect on theexperience of people in Zimbabewe. I doubt if google has photographed much of thecountry or villages are strung with cctv cameras. A true Totalitarian state supresses information, including images on the internet, and pictures of what really happens on cctv networks.

Roy Stockdill says...
10:57am Sun 22 Mar 09

But that is Africa and you expect it there. We are supposed to be light years ahead as an advanced European country and civilisation. We do not expect a Big Brother-type state to spy on its citizens here.

There is now talk of the government having access to all our e-mails and telephone calls. If that is not Big Brother I don't know what is!

Paradise Watford says...
9:25am Mon 23 Mar 09

Google earth, maps and streetview are not designed to or capable of monitoring citizens in their everyday lives. Its just a fun tool that someone at google came up with and that google then worked out how to make some money out of, for most of us its free and for most of us it consists of looking at our own house, where we went or are going on holiday, looking at famous landmarks or maybe planning a driving route.

Its not something to be frightened of, and lets face it if our government wanted to spy on us using satellites pictures they'd get an up to date image from one of the ones it has flying through space (not one thats three years old!) from a satellite that can take a picture of anywhere in the world, even at night or through clouds, of something as small as a cigarette packet AND be able to read the health warning on the side...

And Roy if you've reached the point where we have a government that wants to get into selective breeding and killing off anyone who does not fit with their ideas then you have a problem regardless of what technology is at hand...

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