Kings Langley UFO mystery solved

Chinese lanterns released in memory of Lucille Frawley

Chinese lanterns released in memory of Lucille Frawley

First published in News by

The mystery surrounding the strange lights spotted in the night sky above Kings Langley has been solved.

The cluster of glowing orange lights seen passing over the village on Thursday April 23 were not extra terrestrial visitors as many alleged but 38 Chinese lanterns released in memory of Lucille Frawley who died of a brain tumour in October last year.

Lucille would have been 38 years old on that Thursday; with that in mind more than 100 of her friends and family gathered at Kings Langley Cricket Club to release the lanterns to mark the occasion.

Brother Tim Groom, 41, said: “We wanted to do something special for Lucille’s birthday. She was so well liked; much loved and is much missed.

“When I opened the Observer to see that people thought they were UFOs, I thought I better let everyone know the truth as we didn’t want to cause any distress.

Lucille, a former Hemel Hempstead resident, was diagnosed with a brain tumour in early January 2008.

Mr Groom, of Lansdowne Close in Watford, continued: “We thought she was going to be ok but come September time we got the news that she was not going to pull through.

“For her birthday last year we tried to go out but she had to come home early as she was unwell. She said we would have a big party this year by unfortunately it did not happen.

“The lanterns were a spectacular sight. They looked so beautiful. It was an emotional evening but my sister-in-law and mum were so pleased that people had seen them."

A tombola and auction were also held on the evening. More than £2,500 was raised for the Samantha Dickson Brain Tumour Trust which will help fund research.

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2:52pm Wed 6 May 09

Paradise Watford says...

Err, the WO could have cleared the matter up even sooner if they read the post following the original story. I seem to remember at least two people pointing out that it was chinese lanterns and even mentioning the time and place they were released!

Another rubbish story and follow up.
Err, the WO could have cleared the matter up even sooner if they read the post following the original story. I seem to remember at least two people pointing out that it was chinese lanterns and even mentioning the time and place they were released! Another rubbish story and follow up. Paradise Watford
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4:14pm Wed 6 May 09

Roy Stockdill says...

"The cluster of glowing orange lights seen passing over the village on Thursday April 23 were not extra terrestrial visitors as many alleged....."

Funny, I recall hardly anybody alleging they were ETs from outer space.

When is this madness going to end? There is ALWAYS an entirely sensible, earth-bound explanation for UFOs and 9 times out of 10 it seems to be Chinese lanterns.

Honestly, there are some VERY gullible souls out there who will believe anything!
"The cluster of glowing orange lights seen passing over the village on Thursday April 23 were not extra terrestrial visitors as many alleged....." Funny, I recall hardly anybody alleging they were ETs from outer space. When is this madness going to end? There is ALWAYS an entirely sensible, earth-bound explanation for UFOs and 9 times out of 10 it seems to be Chinese lanterns. Honestly, there are some VERY gullible souls out there who will believe anything! Roy Stockdill
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4:15pm Wed 6 May 09

watfordsfinest says...

We did, however I think the point of this follow up may have been to pay tribute to the young lady who lost her life.
We did, however I think the point of this follow up may have been to pay tribute to the young lady who lost her life. watfordsfinest
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9:01am Thu 7 May 09

Chris40 says...

Paradise Watford wrote:
Err, the WO could have cleared the matter up even sooner if they read the post following the original story. I seem to remember at least two people pointing out that it was chinese lanterns and even mentioning the time and place they were released! Another rubbish story and follow up.
Thats journalists for you! Half-ar sed seems to be good enough with them.
[quote][p][bold]Paradise Watford[/bold] wrote: Err, the WO could have cleared the matter up even sooner if they read the post following the original story. I seem to remember at least two people pointing out that it was chinese lanterns and even mentioning the time and place they were released! Another rubbish story and follow up. [/p][/quote]Thats journalists for you! Half-ar sed seems to be good enough with them. Chris40
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11:24am Thu 7 May 09

Paul Frawley says...

Dear Paradise, Roy & Chris40. As Watfordsfinest rightly pointed out the purpose of the follow up was to pay tribute to the young lady in question. My wife, Lucille.
Paradise, you may think that this story is rubbish but let me assure you that myself, my children & the rest of my family certainly do not. Have you nothing better to do with your life than to hide behind your computer keyboard and make snide comments about something that has nothing to do with you?
Get a Life
If either of you would like to discuss this away from the computer keyboard, well just name the time & place & I will be happy to oblige.

Dear Paradise, Roy & Chris40. As Watfordsfinest rightly pointed out the purpose of the follow up was to pay tribute to the young lady in question. My wife, Lucille. Paradise, you may think that this story is rubbish but let me assure you that myself, my children & the rest of my family certainly do not. Have you nothing better to do with your life than to hide behind your computer keyboard and make snide comments about something that has nothing to do with you? Get a Life If either of you would like to discuss this away from the computer keyboard, well just name the time & place & I will be happy to oblige. Paul Frawley
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12:14pm Thu 7 May 09

LJC79 says...

Well said Paul.I read the original story but as I don't sit glued to this website I didn't see the comments after. I think this was a very well written article and was really saddened by some of the comments.They have clearly missed the point,this wasn't written to prove the lights weren't UFO's,it was just to pay tribute to Lucille and highlight the money you raised for the Samantha Dickson Brain Tumour Trust. It's a shame some people are too stupid to realise this.
Well said Paul.I read the original story but as I don't sit glued to this website I didn't see the comments after. I think this was a very well written article and was really saddened by some of the comments.They have clearly missed the point,this wasn't written to prove the lights weren't UFO's,it was just to pay tribute to Lucille and highlight the money you raised for the Samantha Dickson Brain Tumour Trust. It's a shame some people are too stupid to realise this. LJC79
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12:45pm Thu 7 May 09

Paradise Watford says...

My apologies, no offense or hurt was meant and my comments I admit where made without thinking and they were as insensitive as it is possible to be.

In my defence, if one is possible and pathetic as it may be, I was commenting more on the headline than the actual reason for the lanterns. As I pointed out a previous poster had already revealved what the 'ufo's' were although obviously not the reason behind them.

Chinese lanterns are indeed beautiful and serene and a fitting way to commemorate the loss of a loved one.

Please believe me when I say that I am truly sincere in my apology, as a further way to show this I would like to make a donation to the Samantha Dickson Brain Tumor Trust. Would you be able to post details of how such a donation could be made please or how the trust could be contacted?

As to me 'hiding' and not revealing my real name, that is quite common not just to me or to this site but to millions of people using the world wide web and its countless sites. I have reasons for not revealing my identity, and it is not because I am afraid to stand by my opinions (when I believe they are right, which they quite clearly were not in this case). As such whilst I understand your anger do not judge me or the many millions who also use a nom the plume when on the internet and on this site.

However many will be pleased to hear that I am going to stop commenting altogether on stories posted on the WO website. I am truly appalled that I could have made such hurtful comments and whilst I stand by many of the opinions I have previously made with the huge error in judgement i made with this story I no longer wish to continue.

Again to you and all your family my sincere apologies.
My apologies, no offense or hurt was meant and my comments I admit where made without thinking and they were as insensitive as it is possible to be. In my defence, if one is possible and pathetic as it may be, I was commenting more on the headline than the actual reason for the lanterns. As I pointed out a previous poster had already revealved what the 'ufo's' were although obviously not the reason behind them. Chinese lanterns are indeed beautiful and serene and a fitting way to commemorate the loss of a loved one. Please believe me when I say that I am truly sincere in my apology, as a further way to show this I would like to make a donation to the Samantha Dickson Brain Tumor Trust. Would you be able to post details of how such a donation could be made please or how the trust could be contacted? As to me 'hiding' and not revealing my real name, that is quite common not just to me or to this site but to millions of people using the world wide web and its countless sites. I have reasons for not revealing my identity, and it is not because I am afraid to stand by my opinions (when I believe they are right, which they quite clearly were not in this case). As such whilst I understand your anger do not judge me or the many millions who also use a nom the plume when on the internet and on this site. However many will be pleased to hear that I am going to stop commenting altogether on stories posted on the WO website. I am truly appalled that I could have made such hurtful comments and whilst I stand by many of the opinions I have previously made with the huge error in judgement i made with this story I no longer wish to continue. Again to you and all your family my sincere apologies. Paradise Watford
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12:46pm Thu 7 May 09

Paradise Watford says...

My apologies, no offense or hurt was meant and my comments I admit where made without thinking and they were as insensitive as it is possible to be.

In my defence, if one is possible and pathetic as it may be, I was commenting more on the headline than the actual reason for the lanterns. As I pointed out a previous poster had already revealved what the 'ufo's' were although obviously not the reason behind them.

Chinese lanterns are indeed beautiful and serene and a fitting way to commemorate the loss of a loved one.

Please believe me when I say that I am truly sincere in my apology, as a further way to show this I would like to make a donation to the Samantha Dickson Brain Tumor Trust. Would you be able to post details of how such a donation could be made please or how the trust could be contacted?

As to me 'hiding' and not revealing my real name, that is quite common not just to me or to this site but to millions of people using the world wide web and its countless sites. I have reasons for not revealing my identity, and it is not because I am afraid to stand by my opinions (when I believe they are right, which they quite clearly were not in this case). As such whilst I understand your anger do not judge me or the many millions who also use a nom the plume when on the internet and on this site.

However many will be pleased to hear that I am going to stop commenting altogether on stories posted on the WO website. I am truly appalled that I could have made such hurtful comments and whilst I stand by many of the opinions I have previously made with the huge error in judgement i made with this story I no longer wish to continue.

Again to you and all your family my sincere apologies.
My apologies, no offense or hurt was meant and my comments I admit where made without thinking and they were as insensitive as it is possible to be. In my defence, if one is possible and pathetic as it may be, I was commenting more on the headline than the actual reason for the lanterns. As I pointed out a previous poster had already revealved what the 'ufo's' were although obviously not the reason behind them. Chinese lanterns are indeed beautiful and serene and a fitting way to commemorate the loss of a loved one. Please believe me when I say that I am truly sincere in my apology, as a further way to show this I would like to make a donation to the Samantha Dickson Brain Tumor Trust. Would you be able to post details of how such a donation could be made please or how the trust could be contacted? As to me 'hiding' and not revealing my real name, that is quite common not just to me or to this site but to millions of people using the world wide web and its countless sites. I have reasons for not revealing my identity, and it is not because I am afraid to stand by my opinions (when I believe they are right, which they quite clearly were not in this case). As such whilst I understand your anger do not judge me or the many millions who also use a nom the plume when on the internet and on this site. However many will be pleased to hear that I am going to stop commenting altogether on stories posted on the WO website. I am truly appalled that I could have made such hurtful comments and whilst I stand by many of the opinions I have previously made with the huge error in judgement i made with this story I no longer wish to continue. Again to you and all your family my sincere apologies. Paradise Watford
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1:19pm Thu 7 May 09

Paul Frawley says...

Paradise,
Apologies accepted.

You can Donate at:
www.braintumourtrust
.co.uk
or write to:
SDBTT, Sadlers House, 100 Reading Road, Yateley, Hampshire GU46 7RX.
Telephone: 0845 130 9733
Paradise, Apologies accepted. You can Donate at: www.braintumourtrust .co.uk or write to: SDBTT, Sadlers House, 100 Reading Road, Yateley, Hampshire GU46 7RX. Telephone: 0845 130 9733 Paul Frawley
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1:21pm Thu 7 May 09

Paul Frawley says...

Paradise,
Apologies accepted.

You can Donate at:
www.braintumourtrust
.co.uk
or write to:
SDBTT, Sadlers House, 100 Reading Road, Yateley, Hampshire GU46 7RX.
Telephone: 0845 130 9733
Paradise, Apologies accepted. You can Donate at: www.braintumourtrust .co.uk or write to: SDBTT, Sadlers House, 100 Reading Road, Yateley, Hampshire GU46 7RX. Telephone: 0845 130 9733 Paul Frawley
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3:37pm Thu 7 May 09

Chris40 says...

Paul Frawley wrote:
Dear Paradise, Roy & Chris40. As Watfordsfinest rightly pointed out the purpose of the follow up was to pay tribute to the young lady in question. My wife, Lucille. Paradise, you may think that this story is rubbish but let me assure you that myself, my children & the rest of my family certainly do not. Have you nothing better to do with your life than to hide behind your computer keyboard and make snide comments about something that has nothing to do with you? Get a Life If either of you would like to discuss this away from the computer keyboard, well just name the time & place & I will be happy to oblige.
Alright mate, chill out. After losing my wife at 33 and being left to bring up two very young children I'm hardly likely to be having a dig at you. My issue was with the poor reporting on the original story. And as much as it chokes me to say it, I don't think Roy was having a dig at you either, so back down!
[quote][p][bold]Paul Frawley[/bold] wrote: Dear Paradise, Roy & Chris40. As Watfordsfinest rightly pointed out the purpose of the follow up was to pay tribute to the young lady in question. My wife, Lucille. Paradise, you may think that this story is rubbish but let me assure you that myself, my children & the rest of my family certainly do not. Have you nothing better to do with your life than to hide behind your computer keyboard and make snide comments about something that has nothing to do with you? Get a Life If either of you would like to discuss this away from the computer keyboard, well just name the time & place & I will be happy to oblige. [/p][/quote]Alright mate, chill out. After losing my wife at 33 and being left to bring up two very young children I'm hardly likely to be having a dig at you. My issue was with the poor reporting on the original story. And as much as it chokes me to say it, I don't think Roy was having a dig at you either, so back down! Chris40
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6:38pm Thu 7 May 09

Roy Stockdill says...

I think if Paul re-reads my message carefully and logically, and puts aside his understandable emotion, I think he will recognise that I implied no criticism of him or lack of sympathy whatsoever.

I pointed out a serious flaw in the wording of the second paragraph of the story, in which the writer claimed that many had alleged the strange lights were estra terrestrial visitors. In my recollection, hardly anybody - if anybody at all - claimed this when the original story was published. My criticism was clearly intended for the reporter.

The rest of my comments were restricted to questioning why the WO should keep on running these absurd stories about UFOs when everybody knows that 9 times out of 10 they are Chinese lanterns.

I am sorry if Paul was offended but, as I say, if he re-reads my comments he will see that it is quite incorrect to interpret them as being in any way remotely critical of him. Unfortunately, emotion so often gets in the way of seeing things logically.
I think if Paul re-reads my message carefully and logically, and puts aside his understandable emotion, I think he will recognise that I implied no criticism of him or lack of sympathy whatsoever. I pointed out a serious flaw in the wording of the second paragraph of the story, in which the writer claimed that many had alleged the strange lights were estra terrestrial visitors. In my recollection, hardly anybody - if anybody at all - claimed this when the original story was published. My criticism was clearly intended for the reporter. The rest of my comments were restricted to questioning why the WO should keep on running these absurd stories about UFOs when everybody knows that 9 times out of 10 they are Chinese lanterns. I am sorry if Paul was offended but, as I say, if he re-reads my comments he will see that it is quite incorrect to interpret them as being in any way remotely critical of him. Unfortunately, emotion so often gets in the way of seeing things logically. Roy Stockdill
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