South Oxhey rugby club thanks BNP for help (From Watford Observer)

Good to see the Rugby club has the sense to accept the BNP help, unlike the choir they have considered the local community rather then worrying about the politics of where the money come from.
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To me, it appears to be a good thing that the BNP have been elected in South Oxhey. Can you remember the area having so much media coverage before the BNP got in? OK, it still features fairly heavily in reports of crime, but there are also many positive reports coming out of the area.
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Compare that to the Lib-Dum run Council and crazy Mayor Dotty, who provide the town with nationwide embarrassment (adventure playground scenario).
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What would you prefer? Having pride for the good things that happen or hiding your head in shame when someone jokes about your home town.

How refreshing to see the council's money being put towards a worthwhile cause that has had an immediate and tangible benefit to the recipients. If only the increasingly ludicrous Mayor Thornhill shared this clarity of vision

South Oxhey is in LibDem run Three Rivers, where the council has also given a leisure grant of £3,000 to the club.

Councillors of all parties were thanked and formally invited to this event.

Ifind it vile that the nazi bnp are trying to buy popularity and saddened that anybody would except money from fascists. The bnp follow in the traddtions of hitler, mussolini and mosley and accepting nazi money means you have the blood of the millions killed by nazis upon your hands. shame on you, shame on you...

andy nassi wrote:
Ifind it vile that the nazi bnp are trying to buy popularity and saddened that anybody would except money from fascists. The bnp follow in the traddtions of hitler, mussolini and mosley and accepting nazi money means you have the blood of the millions killed by nazis upon your hands. shame on you, shame on you...

Slight over-reaction isn't it? Get a grip you numbty

Such stimulating and challenging language, if you can lift you knuckles off the pavement why don't you find out a few facts about the bnp... like criminal convictions, holocaust denial, history of racist violence, a policy of not allowing non-indigenous people in –i.e. white in case that word was to big for you!

its good that a local rugby club is getting some money to get up and running....this donation does it have any conditions on it..you know like anyone who plays has to have family records going back 40,000 years to prove there PROPEr indigenous and good and aryan enough for our glorous bnp britian?

andy nassi wrote:
Such stimulating and challenging language, if you can lift you knuckles off the pavement why don't you find out a few facts about the bnp... like criminal convictions, holocaust denial, history of racist violence, a policy of not allowing non-indigenous people in –i.e. white in case that word was to big for you!

andy capp - plug your lugholes back and listen. i dont like the bnp never have never will. However if you read the report, it says that the money is taxpayers money NOT from the BNP itself. Get your facts right, get off of your high horse and learn that when you write "to big for you" it is actually TOO big for you...Perhaps you should "lift you knuckles" and go crawl back to Slough, the cultural capital of this country!!!!

The decision to except the money from the BNP is not one I would feel comfortable with.
However if you are if you look at the facts you may learn that councillors regardless of the political party they represent are allocated a sum of money tax payers money to distribute on causes they beleave are worthy.
People should be made aware this tax payers money being used in positive way for the local community and not the money of the BNP.

Whatever anyone's views of the BNP, the fact remains that their candidates were democratically elected to the council by the voters of South Oxhey. The inability to accept this process and, therefore engage with these people in a polite and dignified way, is a far greater threat to our society than that posed by the BNP and other extremists.
I'm afraid that andy nassi's reaction (while, understandable) is a good example of the over-simplistic attitude to issues of race and immigration that have given rise to the BNP and will continue to see the party pick up votes at the next election.

andy nassi wrote:
Such stimulating and challenging language, if you can lift you knuckles off the pavement why don't you find out a few facts about the bnp... like criminal convictions, holocaust denial, history of racist violence, a policy of not allowing non-indigenous people in –i.e. white in case that word was to big for you!

Where did the money come from Einstein? Durrrrr, council tax payers. By your reckoning then we are all closet nazis, so I guess you probably have to include yourself in that then eh Goebbels.

Actually the South Oxhey Community Choir were right. This story proves it. These are grants paid for out of people's taxes and awarded by local councils - NOT by the BNP. But as the Choir predicted the BNP would try and gain political capital out of it which is precisely what has happened.The Choir as a community organisation with people from different ethnic backgrounds have decent values and made it clear that they did not want to be asociated with racism. The fact is that the Rugby Club have fallen for the BNP trap and are now reported as endorsing them and by association their obnoxious racist policies. Just who do you think it was that went to the press with the story that the BNP Councillors were the Club's 'guests of honour'? Well Britain's Nazi Party of course!

There is a world of difference in the Rugby Club accepting £3,000 from Three Rivers council and taking money that is in the gift of a BNP councillor. I think the club have been very unwise. I hope Councillor Gates enjoyed meeting all their black players.

watfordbornandbred wrote:

andy nassi wrote: Such stimulating and challenging language, if you can lift you knuckles off the pavement why don't you find out a few facts about the bnp... like criminal convictions, holocaust denial, history of racist violence, a policy of not allowing non-indigenous people in –i.e. white in case that word was to big for you!

andy capp - plug your lugholes back and listen. i dont like the bnp never have never will. However if you read the report, it says that the money is taxpayers money NOT from the BNP itself. Get your facts right, get off of your high horse and learn that when you write "to big for you" it is actually TOO big for you...Perhaps you should "lift you knuckles" and go crawl back to Slough, the cultural capital of this country!!!!

Well done and nicely said. I dont see how it really is a problem where the money came from either. Like said, the people of South Oxhey voted them in - their obviously doing something right.

andy nassi wrote:
Ifind it vile that the nazi bnp are trying to buy popularity and saddened that anybody would except money from fascists. The bnp follow in the traddtions of hitler, mussolini and mosley and accepting nazi money means you have the blood of the millions killed by nazis upon your hands. shame on you, shame on you...

Nassi
You are one sick,small minded,pathetic, little racist bigot, SHAME ON YOU.
Well done Rugby club , I sincerely wish you all the best for the future

Re: andy nassi, SLOUGH says...
2:00pm Mon 23 Nov 09

Please don't call the BNP Nazis Andy. They are British patriots. Don't play into the hands of the other parties that fear losing votes to them.

Let them work for the votes.

If you want to complain how councils spend other peoples money. Visit the pages of Croydon.

The ethnic community aren't happy at being given a mere £5 000 to celebrate Black History Month. (There is no White History Month.)

They don't seem to care that whites who live there pay council tax as well and don't see why they should contribute.

Yet those "Nazis" don't give a ****.

Complain about them and leave the rugby lads and the BNP alone. Best of luck to them.

Mike Burns wrote:
Re: andy nassi, SLOUGH says... 2:00pm Mon 23 Nov 09 Please don't call the BNP Nazis Andy. They are British patriots. Don't play into the hands of the other parties that fear losing votes to them. Let them work for the votes. If you want to complain how councils spend other peoples money. Visit the pages of Croydon. The ethnic community aren't happy at being given a mere £5 000 to celebrate Black History Month. (There is no White History Month.) They don't seem to care that whites who live there pay council tax as well and don't see why they should contribute. Yet those "Nazis" don't give a ****. Complain about them and leave the rugby lads and the BNP alone. Best of luck to them.

@Mike Burns:
Well done for pointing out that the BNP are not Nazis, but are actually British patriots. They are defending the British way of life that is being continuously attacked by Labour's current policies on immigration (i.e. "no limits").
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Look at it from a tourist's point of view, I was speaking to a German woman on a coach from London Victoria to Oxford, she was reading a newspaper article regarding immigration, she pointed out that she left from Berlin and arrived at Heathrow. She passed through Passport control, went to the Underground, travelled via Leicester Square to Euston, then headed to her hotel. She couldn't believe that she was actually in England for over an hour before coming across someone working (passport control, underground etc...) who was actually a white English person. Surely, that is a sad state of affairs.
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The BNP are getting stronger because they publicly say what most British people are secretly thinking. We have had enough of immigrants coming here and taking over, and our pathetic government inviting them to do so. Nick Griffin was in Barking last week, and TV footage shows him talking to a black man who was agreeing that immigration has gone too far and it needs to stop and be addressed. The BNP may have racial members, as do all the other parties, but the BNP stands for British National Party, National being the main word. It is not racist to want England to be English, Scotland to be Scottish, Wales to be Welsh etc... Just as much as it is not racist to want France to be French, Pakistan to be Pakistani and so on. If things keep going the way they are, we won't have to travel to see the world, it will be on our doorstep, it is time to step back and look at everything.
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As for andy nassi, well no offence but he seems to be the most racist here, and has no right even thinking of commenting about the BNP, let alone actually commenting.
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Back to the money the club accepted, it was an elected councillor distributing tax-payers money, so it doesn't matter who approved their application, it just so happens to be a member of the BNP, no doubt a Labour, Conservative or Lib Dem councillor would have done the same.
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BNP have been voted in, and they will continue to grow if nothing is done by the bigger parties. I can't vote Labour because they are responsible for the current state of this country's affairs, I can't vote Conservative because they are just as bad, the Lib Dems are (well, Mayor Dizzy Dotty says it all) useless, what does that leave? BNP, UKIP, Greens and other smaller parties. If current polls are any indication that 22% of the UK will vote BNP at the next election, I think that says a lot on how strong they are going to get.

Re: " the main one, Ricky says...
12:16pm Tue 24 Nov 09 "

I agree with you Ricky. If you don't agree with multiculturlaism then just who do you vote for?

The person who started this club is mat sharpe and not thorne.

also as stated by others here i invited as many councilors as i could and asked them to extend the invite to all, unfortunatly only 3 people turned up and 2 of them represented the bnp. this said the moey that i applied for was fom the county council i was not too bothered which political party was represented, but as said before i thank all involved.

hi steve from abbots langley
abbots is where i am from.
i applied for a GRANT from the county council in the same way and answering the same questions as the three rivers GRANT. there was no gift involved and i say again i invited mrs gates as i invited at least 20 three rivers councilors unfortunatly all but 2 of the three rivers councilors were busy and 1 of those that did attend represented the bnp.

@mbselec:
Ref: The person who started this club is Mat Sharpe not Thorne... well you can't expect the Watford Observer to get much right, can you?
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There is no mention of the third councillor who attended in the report or the fact that others were invited and failed to attend, this shows how the Watford Observer selects parts of stories rather than reporting in full. They, along with most national papers, are too keen to show the BNP as racist bigots when in fact only a few members are actually racist. They can't seem to understand the word 'Nationalist' and because of that they are making it racist to talk about immigration. In my opinion they are racist to the true British people, and until they can accept the BNP in their true light instead of publishing created media bullsh*t, I will always think that. Whether the Watford Observer and the nationals like it or not, the BNP are getting stronger because they are the only party who dare say in public what most of us are thinking in private. The papers need to research the full facts before publishing their cr*p.
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To the editor of this paper I ask: What do you think of people who attack elected politicians at a press conference? No doubt you think it isn't right and that it shouldn't happen, then consider this: The Conservative supported United Against Fascism (UAF) attacked Nick Griffin (BNP leader) during a press conference, I suppose that makes it OK then!!! You are a newspaper, that means you are supposed to report 'news' and not your 'opinion'. So what if two BNP councillors were invited to the rugby club, the bigger story would have been those that didn't accept the invitation and their reasons for not attending. You even mention a quote... "Although we have lost today, it is going really well." It would of been more professional to include the score in the report. How about reporting the full story instead of deciding for yourselves what is newsworthy?

the main one wrote:
@mbselec: Ref: The person who started this club is Mat Sharpe not Thorne... well you can't expect the Watford Observer to get much right, can you? - There is no mention of the third councillor who attended in the report or the fact that others were invited and failed to attend, this shows how the Watford Observer selects parts of stories rather than reporting in full. They, along with most national papers, are too keen to show the BNP as racist bigots when in fact only a few members are actually racist. They can't seem to understand the word 'Nationalist' and because of that they are making it racist to talk about immigration. In my opinion they are racist to the true British people, and until they can accept the BNP in their true light instead of publishing created media bullsh*t, I will always think that. Whether the Watford Observer and the nationals like it or not, the BNP are getting stronger because they are the only party who dare say in public what most of us are thinking in private. The papers need to research the full facts before publishing their cr*p. - To the editor of this paper I ask: What do you think of people who attack elected politicians at a press conference? No doubt you think it isn't right and that it shouldn't happen, then consider this: The Conservative supported United Against Fascism (UAF) attacked Nick Griffin (BNP leader) during a press conference, I suppose that makes it OK then!!! You are a newspaper, that means you are supposed to report 'news' and not your 'opinion'. So what if two BNP councillors were invited to the rugby club, the bigger story would have been those that didn't accept the invitation and their reasons for not attending. You even mention a quote... "Although we have lost today, it is going really well." It would of been more professional to include the score in the report. How about reporting the full story instead of deciding for yourselves what is newsworthy?

Completely agree with everything said here, it was the Watford Observer that have made this into an issue by trying to sensationalise what is a non story, the leader of the rugby club has pointed out he invited 20 councillors, i don't see what point the article is trying to make? other than the fact this newspaper openly pledges its aligence to the Lib Dems, and their beloved Dotty.

MJ1 wrote:
Actually the South Oxhey Community Choir were right. This story proves it. These are grants paid for out of people's taxes and awarded by local councils - NOT by the BNP. But as the Choir predicted the BNP would try and gain political capital out of it which is precisely what has happened.The Choir as a community organisation with people from different ethnic backgrounds have decent values and made it clear that they did not want to be asociated with racism. The fact is that the Rugby Club have fallen for the BNP trap and are now reported as endorsing them and by association their obnoxious racist policies. Just who do you think it was that went to the press with the story that the BNP Councillors were the Club's 'guests of honour'? Well Britain's Nazi Party of course!

No i think you'll find that it is the Watford Observer who have run the story and tried to put some kind of twist on it with a sensationalised headline, the fact is a council grant for a local rugby club was given out, but i suppose that headline sells less newspapers. Rest assured when sales are down, or forum comments are in decline the w/o will always dip into it's favourite gte out of jail pot, the bnp.

I hope all who went enjoyed my husbands game pies. All the local Councillors were invited but had other "pressing engagements." The only other non BNP Councillor who turned up kept to himself until the nasty BNP left. Pathetic. This day was about the rugby club. Keep up the good work Matty.

The Watford Observer cannot be blamed for not mentioning the name of the third mystery councillor who attended at the Dick Whittington belated celebration of the start of a new Rugby Club, because he chose not to be interviewed by the Watford Obsever and did not really show himself until Deidre Gates and Seamus Dunne left.
This was a belated celebration because the commitee in charge of the South Oxhey Choir refused to allow the Choir to sing for the newly formed South Oxhey Exiles Rugby Club before there first match that they played.
Matty Sharpe was very disappointed with the commitee and rightly so.
Therefore 3 Game Pies where made in a determined belated celebration, every Three Rivers Councillor was invited to attend, unlike when the South Oxhey Choir peformed live in the park, every councillor was invited with the exception of cllr Dunne and cllr Gates.
When councillors refuse to invite fellow councillors to important functions that involve the community it shows a lack of respect for Democracy and a kick in the teeth for every person that voted for those councillors.
I suggest the councillors of Liberals/conservativ
es and Labour of Three Rivers council switch onto the London Mayor's question time on BBC Parliament channel and watch grown up politicians all sit in a horse shoe shape table asking questions direct to Boris Johnson, Richard Barnbrook of the BNP is of course a member of the greater London Council and sits on the horse shoe shaped table and asks questions directly to Boris and Boris answers them politely, nobody walks out or refuses to sit next to him, because he was democraticly elected by more than 5% of Londoners, just like cllr Dunne & cllr Gates are for South Oxhey, in fact they actually defeated their opponents to become councillors.
It is time three rivers councillors put democracy before their personal feelings for the sake of democracy and for the benefit of the whole of Three Rivers.

The people of South Oxhey need to embrace South Oxhey Exiles Rugby Club.
Matty Sharpe has asked for and received money from the District Council and County Council level's, this is a fantastic boost for this newly formed rugby club.
He invited every Councillor in Three Rivers to attend a belated celebration of this newly formed rugby club, you would think with a general election looming they would be climbing over eachother to attend, this didn't happen, only three Councillors turned up, two from the BNP and one mystery councillor that didn't really make himself visible until the Watford Observer and the two BNP councillors left, why?
Something smells rotten about Three Rivers politics, this is a group of young men doing something to improve there community, keeping eachother out of the pubs and starting to eat healthily so they can compete for this newly formed rugby club. This is something very positive for the community, South Oxhey now have a Choir, a rugby club, a boxing club and football club's.
This is the beginning of South Oxhey asserting itself as a town independent of Watford, this is something to celebrate, the people are asserting themselves, they are waking up from there slumber.
This is people power and the ruling class at Three Rivers Council hate it, that is why they boycotted this invititation, this newly formed rugby club is not obeying the 'political correct' rules.
Does this mean that the Three main political party's Lib/Lab/Con will not help financially in the future because they accepted money from a BNP County Councillor, i personally feel this could happen after this boycott of the belated celebration by almost every District Councillor.
The fact is, we the people decide what is right or wrong, who we want to vote for and not vote for, the people are the Masters not the politicians.
This is what has caused all our problems with the expense's scandal's that keep's dragging on and on because the ruling elite in this country from Parliament to District Council level believe they are the Master's not the people. They have lost sight of who put them where they are now, your votes put them there. They think now that they can dictate to us the people what is right and wrong, that is what is wrong with politics today in Britain.
We the people should let them know they are the servants and we the people are the Masters and vote those out that think they can decide what is right or wrong for us to touch or look at, like we are little children.

After reading the Watford Observer this morning, regarding that headline
'Boxing club thanks BNP for support'
how can this mistake be made, it is so ridiculous, it could be deliberate.
I decided to look at the National Union of journalist website, when i clicked on the ethic bar of that website, below is what it said.

'Give the public the facts about the BNP and expose their racist views through robust, independent reporting - and organise to defend journalists who come under attack as a result.



That was the clear call from NUJ members across the industry at a special Reporting the BNP meeting organised by the union.


More than 50 members - including journalists from the Guardian, BBC, Financial Times, Thomson Reuters and local papers - came to express their determination to stop racist propaganda gaining hold through the media.


Three people joined the union on the night to attend the meeting.


Officials assured the gathering that members who uphold the NUJ’s Code of Conduct and refuse to be used to propagate racist propaganda will be given the full backing of the union.


A new website setting out key questions to ask BNP politicians, exposing myths about asylum and immigration, highlighting good journalistic practice in tackling racist propaganda, and bringing together information on far-right parties will be launched in the coming weeks.


Members under pressure to breach the Code of Conduct or facing ethical dilemmas have access to a hotline to seek professional advice.


The NUJ’s policy condemns racist and fascist views and states “the best way to combat such views is to oppose and expose them wherever and whenever they are expressed, rather than by seeking to deny their expression”.


The NUJ Code of Conduct states that journalists shall not handle racist material, and in addition the union has a set of guidelines on race reporting that include advice on reporting racist organisations.
The guidelines in full


But there was concern that journalists in the workplace lacked the information or the confidence to resist pressure to report the BNP uncritically, especially in the wake of job losses and low staffing levels on many newspapers.


The union pledged support to members prepared to take a stand against racism in their workplaces and to provide support for those targeted as a result of their exposés of the criminal activity of BNP councillors or candidates by far right website Redwatch which had a special page targeting "red journalists".
The Guardian on Redwatch


Other suggestions included staff taking action against their publications accepting ads from the BNP and pressing for a right of reply by anti-racists to BNP assertions.


Leaflets and posters setting out the NUJ’s guidelines will be distributed to workplaces across the UK and well-known journalists will be approached to back the union’s campaign against the media being used as a platform for racist or fascist propaganda.'

Main one – you're right: electing the BNP has got South Oxhey more media coverage because virtually nowhere else has enough racist people to vote them in. The thing has now come full circle though with the choir etc and now the BNP are getting wiped out in elections again!

Your delusions about the 'growing strength' of the BNP are a constant source of amusement. So you really think 22% of the population is going to vote for them at the next general election – you need help...

Mike burns – I think you will find that the BNP are both patriots and Nazi sympathisers. They are not 'British patriots', because they are only patriotic about the white people or Britain. Bit like being an Australian patriot that hates white people 'cos they are immigrants!

Various – if the WO hadn't covered this event, then you would have accused them of covering it up. You can hardly whine about their coverage and then comment so much on it that it becomes the most commented story on the website. T hank's to you geniuses this story now has more prominence than ever...

I suspect the majority of 3 rivers cllrs didn't attend the event because South Oxhey isn't within their wards. Fairly simple really.

Three Rivers man – Firstly, I think you'll find that everyone else on the London Assembly trys to avoid the BNP guy like the plague. Thanks for adding those details on the journalist's union event though – doesn't reflect well on the BNP does it!

@CallowlandChris:
Guess you're not one of the 22% then!!! And you'll be sticking to that bunch of tw*ts you currently vote for.
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Open your eyes, the BNP publicly says what most of us think privately, unlike the rest of the political parties who splurt sh*t on a constant basis, and unfortunately most of our cowardise population are afraid to express their true feelings in public. However, the 'vote' of the next election is private and if the BNP do even better, it will mean that cowardise will reduce.
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Living in Callowland, I would have thought you could see how much things need to change, it's getting as bad as West Watford.
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Also any Councillor who does avoid the BNP councillor is showing total disrespect to the members of the voting public who chose to vote for them. They are not accepting democracy, and that is not acceptable to the way this country is supposed to run.

I couldn't disagree more with 'callowland', this person believes in the discrimination against Indiginous people of this country, he doesn't believe in Democracy, unless the people vote for what he believes in, he should be called 'shallowman'.
The people of Great Britain will eventually wake up from there slumber and when they do, people like 'shallowman' the real racists in our country will melt away like the snow on a warm day.