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12:35pm Thursday 26th January 2012 in News By Mike Wright
The ruling majority at Watford Borough Council has dismissed opposition proposals for a cut in councillors’ allowances as “gesture politics”.
At a meeting of the full council last night, opposition Labour councillors, with the backing of the Green group, put forward a motion that councillors should slash their pay by 10 per cent with senior councils and the mayor taking a 20 per cent hit.
However the move was rejected by the ruling Liberal Democrat group and Conservatives who said the allowances had been set by the previous ruling Labour administration and not risen since then.
The council did agree proposals from an independent panel to freeze all councillor and mayoral allowances for the next year.
The motion for the deeper cut was put forward by Leggatts Labour councillor, Asif Khan, who said councillors should share the pain of residents of Watford who were experiencing pay freezes and job losses.
He honed his attack on the £65,000 basic salary of Liberal Democrat Dorothy Thornhill, saying she was a luxury the council could not afford and paid more than other elected mayors in boroughs like Mansfield, who’s on £53,000.
“The bottom line is we are in favour of the mayoral system,” added councillor Khan. “Mayor Thornhill is an expensive luxury we can do without. She demands a Rolls Royce salary but performs like a broken down old Mini. We need a cheaper more efficient and reliable service.”
His comments were backed by the leader of the Labour group, Jagtar Singh Dhindsa, who argued that councillors could afford to take a pay cut. He said: “Nearly all of us have this as a second salary, whether you are retired, work or on benefits.”
Currently councillors are paid a £7,209 basic allowance, chairmen of smaller committees get an extra £2,884 and those who chair larger committees, like the budget panel, get an extra £7,930 allowance.
Senior councillors who hold a portfolio get an extra special responsibility allowance of £10,815 on top of their basic pay.
The mayor gets a salary equivalent of a backbench MP of £65,738.
Liberal Democrats hit back at the motion with Councillor Andy Wylie branding it “gesture politics” and “playing to the gallery and the press”.
He defended the cost of the mayor saying that she did not spend money on the trappings of office that other elected mayors did, such as a company car or chauffeur, pointing out she drove a Skoda Park Lib Dem George Derbyshire also came to the defence of Mayor Thornhill, calling Labour’s targeting of her salary and maligning of her record “cheap”.
He added: “If many of the people of Watford heard what you said about the mayor they would be absolutely appalled. What has been achieved in the last nine years has been astonishing and is in large part down to the remarkable leadership of Mrs Thornhill.”
Labour’s stance was also attacked by Oxhey Lib Dem Shirena Counter saying they had proposed a cut in councillor allowances last year but not imposed the cut on themselves voluntarily, to set an example.
Finally Councillor Iain Sharpe, husband of Mayor Thornhill, said councillor allowances had not risen since Labour last controlled the council nine years ago.
He said they had set the mayor’s salary and expenses thinking their own then leader, Vince Muspratt, would be donning the mayoral chain after the first election.
“We know what Labour are getting at. We know what’s motivating them and we know why they are doing it,” he said.
The debate was over recommendations made by the council’s Independent Remuneration Panel who suggested the council scrapped the mayor’s current travel allowance, where she has to provide documentation, and replaced it with a block £1,000 grant.
Other recommendations included that councillors allowances be frozen for the next year and individuals consider taking a voluntary 5 per cent cut.
Regarding the mayor’s salary, the panel recommended it also be frozen, but that its rate also be decoupled from the basic salary of MPs.
Lib Dem councillor George Derbyshire put forward that the council should accept the allowance freezes and note the suggestion of the 5 per cent voluntary cut, which was voted through by a large majority.
Comments(13)
AlbansWoodBear
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1:06pm Thu 26 Jan 12
Mike Watford
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1:29pm Thu 26 Jan 12
G_Whiz
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1:42pm Thu 26 Jan 12
TRT
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1:49pm Thu 26 Jan 12
MaryWatford
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2:31pm Thu 26 Jan 12
helen4watford
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4:29pm Thu 26 Jan 12
phil mitchel
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4:44pm Thu 26 Jan 12
drunkenduck
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9:55pm Thu 26 Jan 12
MaryWatford wrote:"She demands a Rolls Royce salary but performs like a broken down old Mini" - You meant an old banger.. It's time that Dorothy Thornhill either have cut in wage or she should step down, retire.
“The bottom line is we are in favour of the mayoral system,” added councillor Khan. “Mayor Thornhill is an expensive luxury we can do without. She demands a Rolls Royce salary but performs like a broken down old Mini. We need a cheaper more efficient and reliable service.”.....I can not believe how this Khan chap speaks about the Mayor how rude and totally disrepectful...well yes I can believe his attitude, as he was like this when he came knocking on my door, asking for my vote, when I questioned him about problems in our ward, he was rude and abrupt and took no notice of my views dispite that I have been living here for over 60 years. Rude horrid man who I cant wait to get voted out.
Steve, Abbots Langley
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11:30pm Thu 26 Jan 12
tiadalma
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9:54pm Fri 27 Jan 12
phil mitchel wrote:Phil, dustmen being privatised Is this true ? What is this council thinking: is this what watford residents want.Look next door at Ricky council, they did that a few years ago and the service was so awful, they stopped the contract. I'm not surprised, its easy to attack the lower paid staff. Not much a vote winner i would say
They will never vote for a reduction in pay just like the turkeys won't vote for christmas. The Sharpe/Thornhill houshold and the Scudders don't like the idea of a pay cut in the family bussiness, but they don't care about the dustmens jobs that will be going soon when it goes out to privatisation probably Violia.
phil mitchel
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10:09pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Veritas
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1:51pm Tue 31 Jan 12
Not Finished Yet
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10:10pm Mon 6 Feb 12
G_Whiz wrote:And what about the current government for allowing the BoE to print money? They're all at it, trying to inflate their way out of debt.
I would be a nice Gesture though wouldn't it?
And all Labour councillors and M.P's should have a 50% cut, for throwing away all our gold and cash reserves and getting us in this mess in the first place!
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