Speeding motorist tried to pass points off to aunt in India (From Watford Observer)

Doesn't look too good for Chris Huhne, does it, if he is found guilty of the same offence?

Vaneesha Halai, 22 is plainly very stupid, anyone with a modicom of intelect would at least have used someone who was in the country at the time of the offence. I wouldn't be surprised if auntie doesn't even have a driving licence at all. Silly Girl.

!

I agree! She must be very, very stupid indeed.

Anyone caught committing this offence should realise it's not the speeding that's the major crime but the perjury. This carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.

She is very lucky indeed not to be in jail.

Why didn't Mike ask her if she is a Fib Dem activist too?

Really, Harry, you are very silly with your constant harping on about "Fib Dems". It's a very old cliche now which you can't seem to forget. I have no idea who Vaneesha Halai is but do you have any evidence she is a Lib Dem?

Yes, Chris Huhne certainly is a Lib Dem and he has been forced to resign his Cabinet position. But what does this have to do with the above case? My post was a joke.

Can't you political zealots and loonies find something original to say? You are just a silly old Labour dinosaur who belongs in the last century or even earlier ones.

She did'nt curry favor with the judge then. She's right in the mango pickle.

Taximan wrote:
She did'nt curry favor with the judge then. She's right in the mango pickle.

Taximan - You're just a small minded bigot. Just because Vaneesha Halai is obviously of Asian background you're just making cheap jibes about currying favour and being in a (mango) pickle. Why don't you go and join your dinosaur friend Harry Caines in the last century.

Has she got a pet dog with a bank account in Monaco?

Grammar? Mike - did you actually read over what you'd written before publishing it? I think not. Journalism used to be a respected profession but this lack of care is disappointing - again.

The comments by the PC don't sound particularly grammatical, but that scarcely surprises me! Policemen are not exactly renowned for being brains of Britain or great academics.

However, this sentence in the above report is especially jarring: "Halai also had her license was endorsed for with penalty points for the speeding offence."

Gobbledegook? I would say so. However, what does offend me is the increasing tendency of the WO - not alone amongst newspapers, I fear - to employ Americanisms in their reports. The word "license" when used in the above context is an Americanism. The correct spelling in English English is LICENCE.

It would be correct to use "license" when the word is being employed as a verb, i.e. to license something, but when it is used to describe an individual possession, then the spelling is "licence".

Sadly, young people don't seem to get a proper education these days - but that is another topic!

kickaha wrote:

Taximan wrote:
She did'nt curry favor with the judge then. She's right in the mango pickle.

Taximan - You're just a small minded bigot. Just because Vaneesha Halai is obviously of Asian background you're just making cheap jibes about currying favour and being in a (mango) pickle. Why don't you go and join your dinosaur friend Harry Caines in the last century.

If you can't have a laugh these days what can you do. These idiots deserve all they get.

One has to be extremely careful when making jokes these days, especially about people's race. There are some very po-faced, politically correct types around who appear to go out of their way deliberately to seek out offence and are delighted when they find it. And if they don't find it, they will manufacture it.

Virtually anything one says is almost certainly calculated to upset some poor, precious, hypersensitive little soul somewhere.

I sometimes think we should all walk around with a zip-fastener across our mouths!

She probably thought no one would check if she said it was her aunt who is now in India who was driving. But yes a very silly woman all round.

Oh, and lighten up kickaha. Reactions like yours over nothing are counter productive to whatever cause you are trying to protect/promote.

Taximan wrote:

kickaha wrote:

Taximan wrote:
She did'nt curry favor with the judge then. She's right in the mango pickle.

Taximan - You're just a small minded bigot. Just because Vaneesha Halai is obviously of Asian background you're just making cheap jibes about currying favour and being in a (mango) pickle. Why don't you go and join your dinosaur friend Harry Caines in the last century.

If you can't have a laugh these days what can you do. These idiots deserve all they get.

To be honest Taximan, your comments won't start a race war, but its just unnecessary. If it was some English guy instead of the aforementioned Vaneesha Halai and I started going on about roast beef and fish and chips, you'd probably think I was a plank. Besides which if you're thinking of being funny why not model yourself on people funnier than Stan Boardman or Jim Davidson.

Roy Stockdill wrote:
One has to be extremely careful when making jokes these days, especially about people's race. There are some very po-faced, politically correct types around who appear to go out of their way deliberately to seek out offence and are delighted when they find it. And if they don't find it, they will manufacture it.

Virtually anything one says is almost certainly calculated to upset some poor, precious, hypersensitive little soul somewhere.

I sometimes think we should all walk around with a zip-fastener across our mouths!

All very articulate, learned and wise Mr Stockdill. However, I'm sure you'd change your tune if you were constantly on the receiving end of this kind of low level racist fun as well as much worse. Its not funny constantly categorizing a people because of what food they happen to eat or sell in restaurants. There's a lot more to Indians than a chicken tikka madras and the obligatory popadoms. Keep making your excuses Stockdill....

Actually, I love Indian and Chinese takeaways just as much as I love good old Yorkshire fish and chips. What on earth is the difference?

Please, try and stop being so uptight about it all. Try growing up and joining the rest of us in Britain without being so hypersensitive about race and all that rubbish.

I might add that anyone who doesn't want to be part of Britain and doesn't FEEL part of Britain shouldn't be here at all! We are the most welcoming and honest and reasonable people in the world. Throughout the centuries we have accepted immigrants from other countries, even though some of them have not always behaved to our advantage. We try to introduce them to our way of life, our civilisation and our freedom of thinking and democracy, yet some of them abuse our hospitality. Well, if that's how they feel they should return to where they came from.

Personally, I understand that Indian chicken tikka takeaways are now widely regarded as Britain's favourite food. That's fine with me, much as I still love fish and chips! I will accept both with equal pleasure, as long as they are accompanied by a decent bottle of something red to wash it down with.

Silly little people who want to whine and whinge about race and prejudice because they've got a massive chip on their shoulder are really not welcome.

Ya greet Puddin', Roy. If you've got a massive chip on your shoulder, would you get balance with a massive fish on the other?
Still, back to the story, I wouldn't want to tackle an Auntie, so perhaps it wasn't quite so naive. I hope Vaneesha has learnt a lesson and can keep her speed under control in future. Good drivers aren't those who can get somewhere quicker than someone else, but those who can control their vehicle in accordance with the rules of the road.

You seem to miss the point, TRT. As I observed earlier, the speeding wasn't so much the serious offence - serious though it is - but the perjury, which is far more serious. Jeffrey Archer got four years in jail for it, remember?

This woman was lucky not to have been charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice by attempting to pass the penalty points off on to her aunt. That offence carries a possible maximum sentence of life imprisonment.

Roy Stockdill wrote:
You seem to miss the point, TRT. As I observed earlier, the speeding wasn't so much the serious offence - serious though it is - but the perjury, which is far more serious. Jeffrey Archer got four years in jail for it, remember?

This woman was lucky not to have been charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice by attempting to pass the penalty points off on to her aunt. That offence carries a possible maximum sentence of life imprisonment.

Well ........... what do you reckon Roy? Is she a Fib Dem activist or what?

Well ........... what do you reckon Roy? Is she a Fib Dem activist or what?”
She's just bloody stupid.

Well, yes. The perjury is absolutely diabolical. I think she got off pretty lightly, tbh. What was really so bad about getting the points and fine as to try a trick like that? They should make the owner culpable if the driver is unable to be brought to justice. Trouble is, our justice system just doesn't work that way. Individual culpability, or corporate in special cases.
Given Taximan's comment, though, I'm itching to say "it's a wonder she didn't blame her naan". I won't though. It seems to upset people.

Taximan wrote:
She did'nt curry favor with the judge then. She's right in the mango pickle.

Funny! It's about we laughed about our race and backgrounds! We are all just too uptight to have a laugh.

And yes, she's a silly girl! But one question does need to be asked, isn't it easier for former immigrate families to claim a family member committed the crime? It's not the first time I've heard of this sort of thing.

Roy Stockdill wrote:
I might add that anyone who doesn't want to be part of Britain and doesn't FEEL part of Britain shouldn't be here at all! We are the most welcoming and honest and reasonable people in the world. Throughout the centuries we have accepted immigrants from other countries, even though some of them have not always behaved to our advantage. We try to introduce them to our way of life, our civilisation and our freedom of thinking and democracy, yet some of them abuse our hospitality. Well, if that's how they feel they should return to where they came from.

Personally, I understand that Indian chicken tikka takeaways are now widely regarded as Britain's favourite food. That's fine with me, much as I still love fish and chips! I will accept both with equal pleasure, as long as they are accompanied by a decent bottle of something red to wash it down with.

Silly little people who want to whine and whinge about race and prejudice because they've got a massive chip on their shoulder are really not welcome.

Thanks for the lecture on the UK's immigration policy Roy. Also thanks for not bursting into Rule Brittania halfway through, although I almost thought you were going to. And I must say its very big of you and the British nation to take the Indian diaspora and other immigrants under your wing and show them how to be civilized and democratic (despite the fact of course India has actually had a civilization going back 5000 years). Its true, relative to a lot of countries Britain is very tolerant and has been welcoming of foreigners through the ages. Let's not forget though that Britain played a significant part in the slave trade and the de-humanising of Africans. Lets also not forget that Britain once had an Empire in which it treated Indians as second class citizens and whose country it looted to a significant degree. This looting also occurred in Africa (participated in by other European countries as well). We seem to be veering off the track though; you seem to be implying that by objecting to Taximan's irrelevant jibes on curry and pickle that I am somehow un-British and need to "go back home". I don't have a massive chip on my shoulder at all, but I feel its my right to point out to people when they are being offensive and belittling. You're the silly little person Roy as well as arrogant, condescending and out of touch.

kickaha wrote:

Roy Stockdill wrote:
I might add that anyone who doesn't want to be part of Britain and doesn't FEEL part of Britain shouldn't be here at all! We are the most welcoming and honest and reasonable people in the world. Throughout the centuries we have accepted immigrants from other countries, even though some of them have not always behaved to our advantage. We try to introduce them to our way of life, our civilisation and our freedom of thinking and democracy, yet some of them abuse our hospitality. Well, if that's how they feel they should return to where they came from.

Personally, I understand that Indian chicken tikka takeaways are now widely regarded as Britain's favourite food. That's fine with me, much as I still love fish and chips! I will accept both with equal pleasure, as long as they are accompanied by a decent bottle of something red to wash it down with.

Silly little people who want to whine and whinge about race and prejudice because they've got a massive chip on their shoulder are really not welcome.

Thanks for the lecture on the UK's immigration policy Roy. Also thanks for not bursting into Rule Brittania halfway through, although I almost thought you were going to. And I must say its very big of you and the British nation to take the Indian diaspora and other immigrants under your wing and show them how to be civilized and democratic (despite the fact of course India has actually had a civilization going back 5000 years). Its true, relative to a lot of countries Britain is very tolerant and has been welcoming of foreigners through the ages. Let's not forget though that Britain played a significant part in the slave trade and the de-humanising of Africans. Lets also not forget that Britain once had an Empire in which it treated Indians as second class citizens and whose country it looted to a significant degree. This looting also occurred in Africa (participated in by other European countries as well). We seem to be veering off the track though; you seem to be implying that by objecting to Taximan's irrelevant jibes on curry and pickle that I am somehow un-British and need to "go back home". I don't have a massive chip on my shoulder at all, but I feel its my right to point out to people when they are being offensive and belittling. You're the silly little person Roy as well as arrogant, condescending and out of touch.

Kickaha,

Lets all look back at history and then slag us Brits off just for making a cheap joke.

It's true if you don't like it then leave - I did - and I came back as the grass isn't greener. if you live here then embrace the culture. As for racism - in all my travels with work and pleasure, we in the UK are the world's most tolerate of our cultures and races so please don't start ranting about how hard it is for immigrates - try living in Australia, the US or Eastern Europe - all have more up front racist attitudes than I've ever encountered here in the UK.

Back to the original story....a pat on the back for the Hertfordshire Safety Camera Partnership and PC Owens for their decision to make the investigation in the first place.
And, maybe its just as well that Vaneesha Halai is not an MP or she might feel obliged to resign in order to fight the case!