Police commissioner candidate speaks out over potential G4S contract

Pressure is mounting on Herfordshire Constabulary's plans to its hand back office functions to beleaguered security giant G4S after another political party threatened to veto the deal.

Hertfordshire’s Liberal Democrat party has said it would throw out proposals to outsource to G4S if it wins the police crime and commissioner election in November.

The move comes after Labour’s candidate for the £75,000-a-year role, Sherma Batson, said she would block all outsourcing of police services if elected.

The Conservative candidate, David Lloyd, widely considered to be the frontrunner, said he would still consider the G4S deal, despite the fiasco caused by the company failing to supply enough security staff to the Olympic games.

Speaking today, Chris White, the Lib Dem police spokesperson, said: "The astonishing news that Herts, Beds and Cambridgeshire constabularies will be pressing ahead with this privatisation is likely to lead to a collapse in public confidence in policing in the three counties.

"Even before the Olympics fiasco, the record of G4S was questionable. Policing is a public sector service and should not normally be handed over to private companies - especially private companies which are known not to deliver.

"I don't want to see the army being called in to Hertfordshire to perform basic policing."

Hertfordshire, Cambridge and Bedfordshire police forces are all planning to hand functions such as human resources, finance, ICT, procurement and corporate communications.

The final decision over the proposals has been delayed due to concerns raised over G4S by the problems at the Olympics, which saw the army and officers from forces including Hertfordshire scrambled to sure up security at the games.

This means it will be decided by whoever becomes the county’s first elected commissioner after the November 15 election.

Comments(7)

Reg Edit says...
4:30pm Mon 3 Sep 12

The Lib Dems now join in the Labour joke and show their absolute shallowness when it comes to politics and being a police commissioner.

Surely it is for an elected representative to actually look at the facts and make a decision based on them in the interest of the people of Hertfordshire? That seems only common sense.

To rule out outsourcing now, on the back of a totally unrelated Olympics job, is playing to the gallery with no thought for what is right or wrong for the people of Herts. Maybe it would be a good thing for us to outsource to G4S, and then again maybe it wouldn't. The point is, I don't have enough information to make that call, and neither does the Labour or Liberal parties, yet they have ruled it out, whether it is the right thing to do or not. Shallow fools.

Libs and Labour playing to the gallery, eh? No surprise there then.

As a UKIP supporter, I would hope that the elected politician would do what is right in policing Hertfordshire, rather than what is easy or politically expedient. The police do a reasonably good job, particularly in some areas, but could improve in others. I hope whoever gets elected does what is right rather than what looks good to their friends and supporters.

Woe betide us if one of these fools actually gets elected!

drunkenduck says...
7:52pm Mon 3 Sep 12

These candidates, the only thing that they're interests in, is the £75,000-a-year role, sod everything else. And why should they get all this money as a wage as it ends up been another politician party control where the community doesn't have a say (nothing new).

John Dowdle says...
10:25pm Mon 3 Sep 12

G4S have proven themselves not just incapable over the Olympics fiasco but untrustworthy due to their complicity in administering detention centres in Israel, where young Palestinian children are routinely tortured and incarcerated for long periods of time. One young boy was kept in solitary confinement for 57 days. There is also the question as to why we should trust this privately-owned organisation with the kind of sensitive information routinely handled by the police?
On a whole range of areas, I frankly do not trust the likes of G4S, who have proved themselves unreliable and untrustworthy to handle our personal information.

LSC says...
1:29pm Tue 4 Sep 12

I will repeat what I said before. What has politics even got to do with it?
The police have a job to do like 99% of other jobs. My local supermarket is not run under a Tory policy. The Chinese take-away is not famous for it's Lib-Dem outlook on the food it serves. Labour holds no influence on the way my local Taxi firm operates.

The police have a job to do: Uphold the law. They do not MAKE the law; THAT is the job for politicians. They do not practice the law; that is the job of courts.
So how can the personal political leanings of a Commisioner possibly make a difference? It's a job. Uphold the law and keep the peace as effectively as possible within a budget.
There is no grey area to that; there's no 'Tory way of policing' no 'Labour would have made that arrest but the Lib Dems wouldn't'.

I just don't get it.

John Dowdle says...
1:55pm Tue 4 Sep 12

LSC: there are probably many who would question the need for elected Police Commissioners. However, the central government has decided we will have them (though whether or not they have any electoral mandate for such a course of action is possibly questionable) and have them we will after November 15th.
I think political ideologies will probably not have much to do with this new role.
The idea - as understand it - is for the new Commissioners to consult with local people and then set policing priorities for the police service.
It is then the job of the Chief Constable to ensure that the police service is structured in such a way as to ensure that the priorities and targets set for the service are met. How this is achieved on a day-to-day basis is solely under the control of the Chief Constable.

LSC says...
4:24pm Tue 4 Sep 12

John, I can save them £75k a year in one post on here if it just about consultation:

Dear Police.
Please try to catch criminals.
Please do so lawfully.
Please put out a presence that acts as a deterrent.
Please put together evidence correctly for the CPS.
Please try to stay within your budget.
Please do not victimise or ignore certain sections of the community.

Er, that's pretty much it. Do I get £75k now?

John Dowdle says...
11:25am Wed 5 Sep 12

LSC: If only you had supplied your full name and address - I am sure the cheque would be in the post at this very moment !!

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