Politicians agree plans for £4.3m revamp of The Parade

8:30pm Monday 17th September 2012 in News Photograph of the Author By Mike Wright, Chief Reporter

Design of what the Parade will look like Design of what the Parade will look like

A multi-million pound scheme to redevelop the top of Watford town centre has been agreed by politicians.

Watford Borough Council's ruling cabinet voted through a scheme to revamp The Parade, which will see a bridge built over the pond, more trees and less clunky street furniture.

The scheme, which should start early next year and take a year to finish, is designed to open the top of the town up to holding more cultural events.

The plans have been extended to roll out the refurbishment of The Parade as far down as Clarendon Road.

However the scheme sparked a clash between the ruling Liberal Democrats and opposition Labour councillors, who questioned whether the borough should lavish £4.3m on the scheme in a recession.

At the meeting Watford's elected mayor, Dorothy Thornhill, said: "This is absolutely key to investing in the town. It's not about waiting for the town to be dead before trying to revive it.

"It is also with the genuine belief that culture can regenerate the town and add significant value to quality of life."

She added that the scheme would help the economy by creating work and jobs.

Labour councillor Jagtar Singh Dhindsa, who represents the Vicarage area, said his residents questioned the merit of undertaking such an expensive project in the current economic climate.

He said: "To spend £4m on the pond and half a million on consultants fees, it's a lot of money. That's one thing I am concerned about."

The mayor responded by saying the state of the top of the town and the fact it only came alive at night was the biggest concern the council saw in surveys of residents.

She argued that the refurbishment would mean that Watford would be able to attract more businesses to the town that are currently deterred by its tatty appearance.

The mayor added: "When Warner Brothers came to the top of the town they were dismayed and made adverse comments."

Following the debate Manny Lewis, the council's managing director, said that there were big improvements coming to the bottom end of the town such as the Croxley Rail Link and Charter Place redevelopment.

He said this meant that without investment the top of the town and the businesses there would suffer.

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TRT says...
8:47pm Mon 17 Sep 12

'The mayor added: "When Warner Brothers came to the top of the town they were dismayed and made adverse comments."'

How telling this comment is. Thank goodness they didn't take them to some of the other bits of town. Mind you, given that Warner Brothers are prepared to spend a fortune recreating the look and feel of grimy bits of England...
Well anyway, I don't want to live in an artificial plastic paradise California clone town.
The labour councillor is quite right; it's too much money thrown too soon after the last lot.

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Victor Value says...
8:50pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Great -not a penny to be spent on the ghetto of boarded up shops and depression that is St Albans Road. Always makes me laugh when I see the "Harry Potter" buses go up there from the station. What must visitors think?

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dontknowynot says...
9:34pm Mon 17 Sep 12

I hope the trees are fragrant varieties, a positive thing in drunk central I would think.

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Reg Edit says...
9:49pm Mon 17 Sep 12

So, the Mayor wants to tart up the Parade because of some Warner Bros executives allegedly saying it was a bit tatty and some questionnaires saying it needed "something doing".

How she justifies her spending of our money beggars belief. She's on another planet altogether, there's no reaching her or her Liberal followers.

It didn't stop Warner Brothers developing the studios in Watford did it? So was it really all that bad?

You're not making any of this up are you Dotty? What about TRT who said it would be a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere? Do you only listen to Warner Bros and not your own council taxpayers?

What a thin skin Dotty pretends she has, when really she has the hide of a Rhino when it comes to ignoring the people of the town and following her own pet projects.

Did anyone's questionnaire suggest spending five million at the expense of the rest of town? No, thought not.

Now, does Dotty's office look out over the parade by any chance? Well I never!

I seem to recall the mad dictator mussolini had a chunk of mountain blasted away so he could see the sea from his office in Rome.

I suppose that's justification enough for Dotty though. If you've got a spare five million quid burning a hole in your pocket and you're not bothered about other bits of the town that need the money and attention far more, then spend it on the view from your window.

It will be a legacy for the Liberals. When people in the future remark what a stupid bridge that is and did it really cost five million pounds, Dotty will be able to look back and say "that was my dottiest and most expensive waste of money ever". Good old Liberal council, nutty to the last.

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Sara says...
9:55pm Mon 17 Sep 12

"When Warner Brothers came to the top of the town they were dismayed and made adverse comments."

Probably why the Warner Studios and Tour are in Three Rivers, not Watford...

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Maclanx says...
9:59pm Mon 17 Sep 12

YES! the pond really needs a bridge - it takes soooo long to walk around it atm.

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gusgreen says...
10:15pm Mon 17 Sep 12

So much to listening to what the people wanted.
A total waste of money that could have spent so much more wisely to benefit the whole of Watford.
Still it will allow the drunken scum clubbers to spew into the pond in the middle from the bridge instead of all round the rest of the area!!
When will politicians ever learn?

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Andrew1963 says...
10:16pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Only five empty units between the Town Hall and the flyover, 12 between the flyover and King street (including Clements building), all will be filled by jobs created on the back of a revampof the pond. Does not seem likely does it. So how will this project be judged,how will we be able to measure success - No doubt these questions were asked by the cllrs who have spent the money - perhaps they could give us the answers? Personally i think the money would be better spent investing in property or the development of starter business units at the Health Campus site.

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Harry Bee says...
10:30pm Mon 17 Sep 12

So .... 4.5 million to pretty up the pond. Put that money towards the Health Campus instead and maybe, just maybe, Farm Terrace Allotments can be left for generations to come. A much more worthy cause than making the pond even more appealing to the drunken weekend louts.

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MJ1 says...
11:02pm Mon 17 Sep 12

This is a Lib Dem vanity project. So the Mayor can see it as she looks out of her window at the town hall.If there's £4.3 million to spend on improving the town there's a hundred other things it could be spent on rather than putting a bridge over the Pond! The people of West Watford will not understand why they have to give up their allotments to pay for hospital improvements whilst the Mayor has £4.3 million of public money to blow on a pet project.

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BCB69 says...
11:28pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Another Lib Dem & Dorothy project, but at least Dorothy will be able to see the Women of Watford as they walk to Cassiobury Park in the rain and dark to raise much needed cash for our local Hospice and also as people gather to walk for the Alzheimer's society as she and her cronnies have turned all our lights out at night.
The sooner she and the Lib dems are outy of office the sooner Watford (My town for 70 + years ) will see sensible improvement.
Lets have our old Mayrol System back and save money.

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Reg Edit says...
12:09am Tue 18 Sep 12

Sara wrote:
"When Warner Brothers came to the top of the town they were dismayed and made adverse comments."

Probably why the Warner Studios and Tour are in Three Rivers, not Watford...
Split as many hairs as you wish Sara, but shall we keep to the point?

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Reg Edit says...
12:13am Tue 18 Sep 12

Reg Edit wrote:
Sara wrote:
"When Warner Brothers came to the top of the town they were dismayed and made adverse comments."

Probably why the Warner Studios and Tour are in Three Rivers, not Watford...
Split as many hairs as you wish Sara, but shall we keep to the point?
In fact Sara, let's see what you're really made of.

Do you think this scheme for the pond is really the best use of £5,000,000 in Watford?

Will we get an honest answer or the Liberal line? I'm curious as you seem to have something about you that I have not seen in other Liberals locally.

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kjenfoiwnelk says...
12:57am Tue 18 Sep 12

Could you all be any more negative!! I think not. Do you not think of the people that have to go through that area many times a week? There is a college just through the underpass and this section of the town is gone through often, it would highly benefit students, as somewhere nicer and outdoors to go on breaks, rather than grimacing as they walk past to mcdonalds.
Would you rather it got into a massive state of decay before anything was done about it just so you can moan some more then? Stop being so negative, you'd think nothing good had ever happened to you.

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Reg Edit says...
1:52am Tue 18 Sep 12

kjenfoiwnelk wrote:
Could you all be any more negative!! I think not. Do you not think of the people that have to go through that area many times a week? There is a college just through the underpass and this section of the town is gone through often, it would highly benefit students, as somewhere nicer and outdoors to go on breaks, rather than grimacing as they walk past to mcdonalds.
Would you rather it got into a massive state of decay before anything was done about it just so you can moan some more then? Stop being so negative, you'd think nothing good had ever happened to you.
So, if the large sum of money could be spent more wisely elsewhere in Watford, it doesn't matter, so long as students and other people can walk past the five million pound Liberal folly at the Parade? It's one viewpoint I suppose, but it doesn't seem to have much support on this forum outside of the local councillors.

Should we do what's best for the Town or for the people walking past the Parade, or more pertinently looking out over it from their ivory tower?

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TRT says...
2:33am Tue 18 Sep 12

Negative? Only about spending £4.5m on one part of town which had a facelift only 10 years ago. We're very positive about how that money could secure the future of other areas of Watford that are already massively decayed and have been allowed to slide into ruin. Mind you, a walk round Watford is like a walk through time. You can visit a genuine 1970s street scene complete with corner shop and Access enamel sign above the door.

And as for thinking about the people who walk through there every day... We're dong just that. It's not just a walk to a college you see but to the town hall. By the way, is the college catering so poor that the students all go down to McDs now? I used to work at WHC and walked or cycled through the parade every day. The only shameful or off putting thing in the Parade area was the closed Artichoke pub and the sex shop - the pond itself was always fine. Kids feeding the ducks and spotting fish were often to be seen.

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Sara says...
2:54am Tue 18 Sep 12

DearReg,
I've no idea if it's value for money - I haven't read the full report - or indeed any report - so I don't feel informed enough to make a comment.

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Reg Edit says...
3:24am Tue 18 Sep 12

Sara wrote:
DearReg,
I've no idea if it's value for money - I haven't read the full report - or indeed any report - so I don't feel informed enough to make a comment.
Sara,

will you be reading the full report so we may receive your opinion?

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cathbal66 says...
7:05am Tue 18 Sep 12

"It is also with the genuine belief that culture can regenerate the town and add significant value to quality of life."

"...state of the top of the town and the fact it only came alive at night was the biggest concern the council saw in surveys of residents."


It must surely have been the council's intention over the years to bring the High Street alive at night? Why else would they approve licences for so many pubs and clubs there?

And looking at the age group of most of those pub and club-goers, I would say that many of the students in the town are already enjoying their High Street and all it has to offer!

You can't approve residence of that many pubs and clubs and fast food places and then wonder why the High Street lacks culture!!! Maybe someone should have thought about that 20 years ago when residents and High Street users first started complaining about increased violence, noise and litter.

It's an unbelievable amount of money to spend on non-essential, cosmetic refurbishment during a recession, just to please Warner Brothers. How many other, more worthy projects could this money benefit instead?

Consider community groups who've had funding axed, street-lighting cuts, bus routes cancelled, and the state of dereliction that is St Albans Road. But still, at least we'll have a bridge over the pond....

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The Rover says...
8:43am Tue 18 Sep 12

kjenfoiwnelk wrote:
Could you all be any more negative!! I think not. Do you not think of the people that have to go through that area many times a week? There is a college just through the underpass and this section of the town is gone through often, it would highly benefit students, as somewhere nicer and outdoors to go on breaks, rather than grimacing as they walk past to mcdonalds.
Would you rather it got into a massive state of decay before anything was done about it just so you can moan some more then? Stop being so negative, you'd think nothing good had ever happened to you.
They walk past it. They do not need a bridge to walk over the pond. Almost every unit there is a a pub, a club, or is boarded up. They are still going to just walk past it. £4.3 million for what looks like an unnecessary bridge and some trees. ****, they must be expensive trees!

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Nick Lincoln says...
8:52am Tue 18 Sep 12

cathbal66 wrote:
"It is also with the genuine belief that culture can regenerate the town and add significant value to quality of life."

"...state of the top of the town and the fact it only came alive at night was the biggest concern the council saw in surveys of residents."


It must surely have been the council's intention over the years to bring the High Street alive at night? Why else would they approve licences for so many pubs and clubs there?

And looking at the age group of most of those pub and club-goers, I would say that many of the students in the town are already enjoying their High Street and all it has to offer!

You can't approve residence of that many pubs and clubs and fast food places and then wonder why the High Street lacks culture!!! Maybe someone should have thought about that 20 years ago when residents and High Street users first started complaining about increased violence, noise and litter.

It's an unbelievable amount of money to spend on non-essential, cosmetic refurbishment during a recession, just to please Warner Brothers. How many other, more worthy projects could this money benefit instead?

Consider community groups who've had funding axed, street-lighting cuts, bus routes cancelled, and the state of dereliction that is St Albans Road. But still, at least we'll have a bridge over the pond....
Totally agree, and also with @Victor Value who wrote at 8:50pm Mon 17 Sep 12: "Great -not a penny to be spent on the ghetto of boarded up shops and depression that is St Albans Road. Always makes me laugh when I see the "Harry Potter" buses go up there from the station. What must visitors think?"

I'll take bets on how long it will be before an inebriated night-clubber jumps off the bridge into the pond and sues the council when he/she breaks a leg in the shallow water.

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The Rover says...
9:10am Tue 18 Sep 12

Hmmmm, Not a single positive comment so far. I wonder if the mayor reads this?

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TRT says...
9:29am Tue 18 Sep 12

The council needs to be brought to account over this.

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TRT says...
9:32am Tue 18 Sep 12

Doubly so when this "infrastructure" money could have been spent on building repairs for community facilities leased by the council to a certain UK charity...

http://www.watfordob
server.co.uk/news/99
22595.Age_UK__disapp
ointed__at_watchdog_
s_findings/

Disgusting.

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JohnnyHornet says...
10:27am Tue 18 Sep 12

Harry Bee wrote:
So .... 4.5 million to pretty up the pond. Put that money towards the Health Campus instead and maybe, just maybe, Farm Terrace Allotments can be left for generations to come. A much more worthy cause than making the pond even more appealing to the drunken weekend louts.
Reducing the business rates on the empty units would have been a better option, making business " our road to economic recovery" more affordable to the entrepreneur that creating a bridge over the future spew pool, A new definition in the OED for Councillors and Politicians should read, those, who by virtue of their head positioning are deaf and dumb desperately need to extract their heads from the wrong ends on their bodies so they can listen correctly to what people want.

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Mrs Cakeywakey says...
11:24am Tue 18 Sep 12

I don't see why they want to plant more trees at the pond when they uprooted the ones 50 yards up the Parade only a couple of years ago.
I thought the idea of having a massive shopping centre at one end of the High Street & bars/clubs at the other was to do exactly that. They can't have it both ways!
If they're going to spend money on shopping areas please give us a boost in Market Street or St Albans Road. These areas have shops that are open all hours, not just 9-5.
Spend a bit more on the police to help get rid of all the winos, thieves & troublemakers we get here & we might get shoppers & shopkeepers back into our shopping areas.

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TRT says...
11:25am Tue 18 Sep 12

@JohnnyHornet
"future spew pool"
For the WIN.

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Mrs Cakeywakey says...
11:33am Tue 18 Sep 12

Or they could always fill in the pond completely and use the area for an open air market for all the Watford Market Traders to go to when they regenerate Charter Place and pull down our indoor market!

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Reg Edit says...
11:52am Tue 18 Sep 12

Mrs Cakeywakey wrote:
Or they could always fill in the pond completely and use the area for an open air market for all the Watford Market Traders to go to when they regenerate Charter Place and pull down our indoor market!
Come now, Mrs CakeyWakey,

do you really think that is the view our Mayor wants to see when she is looking out of her window for inspiration on what to spend our taxes on next?

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Sara says...
11:52am Tue 18 Sep 12

Reg Edit wrote:
Sara wrote:
DearReg,
I've no idea if it's value for money - I haven't read the full report - or indeed any report - so I don't feel informed enough to make a comment.
Sara,

will you be reading the full report so we may receive your opinion?
Nope - far too much to do that is my responsibility - family, job, council, voluntary work, life. There are only do many hours in a day.

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Reg Edit says...
11:59am Tue 18 Sep 12

Sara,

fair enough, a shame though.

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TRT says...
12:07pm Wed 19 Sep 12

I've been in touch with my local councillor. They are very positive about the scheme, and would like to know what areas of the Borough are suffering due to infrastructure neglect. So as well as my own opinions, and as I can't get all the way round the borough quickly myself, would anyone care to share knowledge of areas of grot and rot that they know of? Has to be council owned, but could include areas that have had tax receipts spent recently where the works could otherwise have been funded by the money being proposed for the Pond.

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jayjai says...
1:07pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Charter Place redevelopment the money should be spent on Watford falling behind place's like Derby London Nottingham that are spending millions on redevelopment of there town centre's that are creating jobs in a recession with new shop's Leisure Facilities. restaurants we have lost Watford springs leggatts way pool all under her and her monkeys but she was voted them in why what's up people haven't you learned anything and yes queen's road look like a war zone shop windows board up and now the half way house is two look good when your walking up to the harlequin from Watford junction and they say people first inspiration is made in the first two minuets so well done there on one of the main routes in to town with 2 big Westfield just a train a way soon there be no shopping centre worth having if the mayor don't pull her finger out as Watford own's 7 % share in the harlequin to be honest think both party should sell to Westfield and spend all the money made doing up all the place's everyone has said as more foot-full means more shop not empty and more jobs

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jayjai says...
1:41pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Reg Edit wrote:
Reg Edit wrote:
Sara wrote:
"When Warner Brothers came to the top of the town they were dismayed and made adverse comments."

Probably why the Warner Studios and Tour are in Three Rivers, not Watford...
Split as many hairs as you wish Sara, but shall we keep to the point?
In fact Sara, let's see what you're really made of.

Do you think this scheme for the pond is really the best use of £5,000,000 in Watford?

Will we get an honest answer or the Liberal line? I'm curious as you seem to have something about you that I have not seen in other Liberals locally.
when was Warner Brothers ever going to be at the top of the town there's no where bigger enough for the studio tour ? they was going to put a cinema in the retail park by Tesco and have it like woodside
complex but Tesco kick off and said would affect there cafe lol and sale having restaurant's and a cinema there so we end up with 2 next 2 boots 2 argos in Watford what made me laugh to day walking thought that end of town is the sign by yates that calls that end of the town the Cafe Quarte lmao i lived in Singapore and Florida never have i see shop and banks in a Cafe Quarte of town it where all the restaurants bar's clubs

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jayjai says...
1:47pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Reg Edit wrote:
Reg Edit wrote:
Sara wrote:
"When Warner Brothers came to the top of the town they were dismayed and made adverse comments."

Probably why the Warner Studios and Tour are in Three Rivers, not Watford...
Split as many hairs as you wish Sara, but shall we keep to the point?
In fact Sara, let's see what you're really made of.

Do you think this scheme for the pond is really the best use of £5,000,000 in Watford?

Will we get an honest answer or the Liberal line? I'm curious as you seem to have something about you that I have not seen in other Liberals locally.
when was Warner Brothers ever going to be at the top of the town there's no where bigger enough for the studio tour ? they was going to put a cinema in the retail park by Tesco and have it like woodside
complex but Tesco kick off and said would affect there cafe lol and sale having restaurant's and a cinema there so we end up with 2 next 2 boots 2 argos in Watford what made me laugh to day walking thought that end of town is the sign by yates that calls that end of the town the Cafe Quarte lmao i lived in Singapore and Florida never have i see shop and banks in a Cafe Quarte of town it where all the restaurants bar's clubs

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Sara says...
3:52pm Wed 19 Sep 12

@jayjai The closure of Watford Springs was agreed in October 2000 under the previous Labour administration, more than 18 months before Dorothy became Mayor. And of course a new pool has been built at Woodside, together with a replacement at Central.

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TRT says...
1:07pm Thu 20 Sep 12

Please can someone, anyone, point me in the direction of the "surveys of residents" which appears to have sparked this degree of concern over the state of the top end of town?

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Reg Edit says...
12:45pm Fri 21 Sep 12

TRT wrote:
Please can someone, anyone, point me in the direction of the "surveys of residents" which appears to have sparked this degree of concern over the state of the top end of town?
Ask your councillor. If they can't produce it, you know it's a lie.

I live in Watford and I have never been asked about it.

It's probably just a figment of their wishful thinking.

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TRT says...
3:06pm Fri 21 Sep 12

I found a 2010 survey.
Searching for "watford consultation shop 2010" should yield a pdf file for download, but the URL is too cumbersome for the WO's restrictive comments system.

The consultation responses make for interesting reading, along with the town's character survey TLC2b from November 2010 (which is full of silly mistakes like calling Beechen Grove Beecham Grove - can we really say they did their homework on this?). On page 11 of TLC2b, they say the Parade Masterplan includes "improved comparison and convenience retail offer, some residential development and centrally relocated car parking". Fair enough. But not the reason we are given for the urgency of this spending. Page 33 of the same report says "Watford town centre offers a pleasant environment The Parade is
entirely pedestrianised and its wide promenade is broken up with a large pond and punctuated by
regular seating and planting." then goes on to say "quality of the environment along High Street slightly deteriorates in character as it runs
south", "The roads running off the main High Street offer a less attractive pedestrian experience" and "Charter Place has a slightly run-down feel to it due to its age". The report also highlights low footfall around the southern end particularly, adding in that this is mirrored in the north.

In other words, the report says that it is the SOUTH end of the High Street which is suffering most from poor environmental quality, with the east and west feeder routes to the high street mentioned as poor, as well as Charter Place.
The Consultation Shop feedback, although only comprising just over 250 responses, mainly expresses concerns over any reduction to the pond, concern over the Women's Centre, positive comments about the CRL (both gateways from the CRL to the High Street are NOT addressed by the scheme under discussion in this article) and wanting a cinema back in the town centre.

The Consultation Shop held in July 2010 invited comments on the proposed WJ redevelopment, the Health Campus, the CRL and Charter Place redevelopment. There may be other schemes that were highlighted, but the archive of public consultation material made available on the WWW by the council is very limited and mostly now missing.

I'm not sure where the money is coming from for this project as it's only described as "Capital Funding", which could be a central grant, but could equally well come from the sale of council assets like the £10m blown on the last High Street revamp in 2000 which came from the sale of land in Waterfields, if I recall correctly

To be honest, any case one could put to the councillors that these monies are not being spent efficiently is going to fall on deaf ears. They've decided this is what they want to do, and they're doing it. The key question is does WBC get value for money? Now, they have completed some pretty good projects recently, the first in decades, like the central baths and the Peace Hospice, but can you say that they got VFM from the 2000 High Street refit? Less than 10 years life span. Then they go and commission these high street health check surveys. They invariably come back saying that the look and feel is not modern. Well, I've got news for you... architectural design moves at a rate you can measure in decades. We can't afford to redress even the high street every 10 years, let alone the rest of the town. Is the look and feel of a town intrinsically linked to its economic prosperity anyway? If so, what hope is there for St. Alban's Road? Market Street? Vicarage Road? Does this factoid mean that historic Stratford-Upon-Avon is doomed to economic stagnation? I doubt it. The fact that in the 60s/70s the history was ripped bleeding out of the heart of the town centre is the real crime here. We should be looking to protect what we have left and replace what was removed.

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antday78 says...
7:38pm Sat 22 Sep 12

The Parade area looks rubbish at the moment, I don't know anyone from round here who doesn't think it could do with a major spruce up!

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TRT says...
8:42pm Sat 22 Sep 12

Noone denies that there are things that could be done to tidy the Parade up, but it's a mere 10 years since the whole high street had £10m spent on it. I went there today deliberately to look at the state of it. Structurally it's not too bad, functionally there were dozens of people old and young enjoying the area. Much quieter than outside burger king where a rap group had assembled. I can't help but think that it's such impromptu acts that the mayor wishes to move, but the act follows the people not the other way round. Even with these regular street performances (culture) there are shops that are still empty like the one being used as an art gallery space where the bookstore used to be next to Lloyds tsb. And then there's the question of value for money. Did you know that in May a report was presented to the council relating to a possible deal which would see a Waitrose built on the redundant gasometer site on lower high street? The cost of decontaminating the land and refurbishing the grade 2* listed Frogmore House £4m. Throw in another half mil and for the same money as they are spending on a bridge over a 100metre long pond and a bit of landscaping you could get a 3 acre park and historical house.
Tell me if that £4.5 million seems like good value.
What about the old telephone exchange? It looks like a bomb site round the back of Jacksons and they've been trying to turn it into a bus station for the last 20 years. Now tell me getting the busses off the high street wouldn't improve the experience.
So it's not that anyone wouldn't see the parade sorted out IF WE HAD THE CASH but we don't.

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TRT says...
1:18pm Sun 23 Sep 12

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-lan
cashire-19691078

£5m has bought Blackburn a new bus station.

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