Councillor resigns (From Watford Observer)

What a shame that the town councillors, including the Mayor by her own admission above, needed reminding that there are young people in this town.

If she is serious, then we're all in trouble!

Another chance to put another dent in Dorothy's council and elect any party other than the Liberals.

Thank Heaven for that.

Leslie is and was a complete waste of space; wasn't he very nearly beaten into second place by a handful of votes the last time he stood?

I met this councillor several years ago in the town centre as he was checking on all the street lights in his ward, reporting on those which were broken, shame other councillors cant seem to do this basic council work for their wards, i have so many lights out in Gammons Lane area and no one cares. He seemed liked he cared about his ward. Nice chap,

He lives in Gammons Lane.

BCB69 wrote:
Another chance to put another dent in Dorothy's council and elect any party other than the Liberals.

That would certainly send the right message to this over-complacent council!

"Chris has always been a passionate advocate for the night time economy".

Lap-dancing clubs?

BCB69 wrote:
Another chance to put another dent in Dorothy's council and elect any party other than the Liberals.

Let's hope there's a UKIP candidate. We've tried all the others.

Reg Edit to stand in Central ward?

Sanity 750 wrote:
Reg Edit to stand in Central ward?

Thought had crossed my mind too. Perhaps if he did then he can gauge the reaction to the policies he is so keen to air in his numerous posts. Not sure the 'we won't spend any money on anything' one will be well received.

Nascot wrote:

Sanity 750 wrote:
Reg Edit to stand in Central ward?

Thought had crossed my mind too. Perhaps if he did then he can gauge the reaction to the policies he is so keen to air in his numerous posts. Not sure the 'we won't spend any money on anything' one will be well received.

Nascot,

up to your old mischief again?

Don't bother putting "we won't spend any money on anything" in quotes, because it's something you have just made up out of thin air and falsely attributed to me.

You're not the love child of that other poster who keeps making things up are you? Whatsisname, oh yes, Clarkie, that's it.

- I have never made that point nor would I. Only a stupid person would think the council could run on no budget. However, a clever person could try (and succeed) to reduce that budget by a significant amount whilst maintaining services if waste was cut from council spending and woolly Liberal thinking.

Do you work for the council Nascot, do you receive paid consultancy from the council or one of its pet projects? I think you do. Is that what you are afraid of - the council gravy train drying up?

Let me tell you this, when we get into council we will do our utmost to stop the gravy train.

I have campaigned against Liberal wastage at the local council, wasting our money on vanity projects or projects of little or no value. What value a bridge over the pond, eh Nascot?

I campaign on choosing what to spend money on, using the method of "Is it neccessary, is it worthwhile, does it have to be spent?" and "Don't spend more money on something than it takes to get the job done"

- in other words not wasting money in the first place and getting value for money on what is actually spent in the interests of the residents of Watford.

If you can't support that then more fool you, and Watford doesn't need fools driving the council, it's got plenty in place already.

If you and your Liberal friends want to pay more tax than necessary and waste it on projects of little or no value, (Purple flags, bridges...) then that is your right whilst you are in power. Just don't be surprised if the spendthrift Liberals get kicked out at the elections by those who disagree with you, those with common sense who know that they can spend a pound and get far more value from it than the council ever could.

If your ethos really is to waste money then I hope you are in a very small majority in Watford. So that's you, Dotty and the remainder of her loyal but misguided merry men. Anyone apart from Dotty, Nascot and a few nutty Liberals think that wasting tax money is a good idea?

Thought not!



Nascot, you have let yourself down by making things up. I thought you might have been a little better than that. It seems on this occasion, I had credited you with more integrity than you deserve.

@ reg so that is a no is it?
just got a wee bit confused are you standing in Central ward?
A simple yes or no, no need to rant about dotty and her Councillors, although if you wish to I have no complaint, just please answer the question first.

Reg Edit, why bother standing as a mere Councillor, stand for Mayor in 2014?

MaryWatford wrote:
I met this councillor several years ago in the town centre as he was checking on all the street lights in his ward, reporting on those which were broken, shame other councillors cant seem to do this basic council work for their wards, i have so many lights out in Gammons Lane area and no one cares. He seemed liked he cared about his ward. Nice chap,

So now we employ councillors on £7 grand a year to go round gazing at lamp posts do we? And I always thought the men we see so often driving round in a van with a cherry picker on the back were paid to do that.

My, my strange idea of value for money "Mary" (or is that a dragged-up Sharpie?) seems to have

dontknowynot wrote:
@ reg so that is a no is it?
just got a wee bit confused are you standing in Central ward?
A simple yes or no, no need to rant about dotty and her Councillors, although if you wish to I have no complaint, just please answer the question first.

Town councillors (including the Mayor) have no role to play in potholes or lamp posts, they are both in the sole jurisdiction of the county council.

Of course, if the local councillors manage to give the impression they are doing something useful whilst being a councillor then they are happy with that. For some of them it may be the only useful thing they do.

They therefore do it as volunteers, the same as you or I would, and report it in the same way to county council for repair.

This morning I reported a gas leak down my road, a far more serious issue - I don't expect any payment for it, any decent person would do it. I've done similar things several times in the past 10 years.

Last year I reported a damaged lamp post that had to be removed as it was unsafe - it was cracked and leaning slightly above the crack. I went one step further by remaining with it and warning people from walking underneath it until it had been inspected by the police for safety, well over an hour. I thought it was unsafe.

I'm not a councillor, just a good citizen of Watford. I wonder how many councillors go around reporting potholes and out-of-order lamp posts when they are not either in office or hoping for office?

What I'm trying to say is that this is done by councillors and prospective councillors for cheap political advantage, rather than for more altruistic reasons like "doing the right thing for Watford".

It is therefore ridiculous for MaryWatford to argue they are doing a good job and worth the money for doing something that actually isn't their job at all, whilst all the time wasting huge amounts of council tax money on pet projects like the pond revamp. Money that could be spent better elsewhere by all accounts.

Basically, we need a better council.

Arthur wrote:

MaryWatford wrote:
I met this councillor several years ago in the town centre as he was checking on all the street lights in his ward, reporting on those which were broken, shame other councillors cant seem to do this basic council work for their wards, i have so many lights out in Gammons Lane area and no one cares. He seemed liked he cared about his ward. Nice chap,

So now we employ councillors on £7 grand a year to go round gazing at lamp posts do we? And I always thought the men we see so often driving round in a van with a cherry picker on the back were paid to do that.

My, my strange idea of value for money "Mary" (or is that a dragged-up Sharpie?) seems to have

Sorry, wrong quote, I meant to quote this one instead.

Mary should realise that if the Councillor can’t even report what is going on in his own street (Gammons Lane) it doesn’t say much for his community spirit.

Reg Edit wrote:

Nascot wrote:

Sanity 750 wrote: Reg Edit to stand in Central ward?

Thought had crossed my mind too. Perhaps if he did then he can gauge the reaction to the policies he is so keen to air in his numerous posts. Not sure the 'we won't spend any money on anything' one will be well received.

Nascot, up to your old mischief again? Don't bother putting "we won't spend any money on anything" in quotes, because it's something you have just made up out of thin air and falsely attributed to me. You're not the love child of that other poster who keeps making things up are you? Whatsisname, oh yes, Clarkie, that's it. - I have never made that point nor would I. Only a stupid person would think the council could run on no budget. However, a clever person could try (and succeed) to reduce that budget by a significant amount whilst maintaining services if waste was cut from council spending and woolly Liberal thinking. Do you work for the council Nascot, do you receive paid consultancy from the council or one of its pet projects? I think you do. Is that what you are afraid of - the council gravy train drying up? Let me tell you this, when we get into council we will do our utmost to stop the gravy train. I have campaigned against Liberal wastage at the local council, wasting our money on vanity projects or projects of little or no value. What value a bridge over the pond, eh Nascot? I campaign on choosing what to spend money on, using the method of "Is it neccessary, is it worthwhile, does it have to be spent?" and "Don't spend more money on something than it takes to get the job done" - in other words not wasting money in the first place and getting value for money on what is actually spent in the interests of the residents of Watford. If you can't support that then more fool you, and Watford doesn't need fools driving the council, it's got plenty in place already. If you and your Liberal friends want to pay more tax than necessary and waste it on projects of little or no value, (Purple flags, bridges...) then that is your right whilst you are in power. Just don't be surprised if the spendthrift Liberals get kicked out at the elections by those who disagree with you, those with common sense who know that they can spend a pound and get far more value from it than the council ever could. If your ethos really is to waste money then I hope you are in a very small majority in Watford. So that's you, Dotty and the remainder of her loyal but misguided merry men. Anyone apart from Dotty, Nascot and a few nutty Liberals think that wasting tax money is a good idea? Thought not! Nascot, you have let yourself down by making things up. I thought you might have been a little better than that. It seems on this occasion, I had credited you with more integrity than you deserve.

Reg. No to all of those, I have told you many times that I am not a member of the Liberal Party. By the way I am not employed by the Council either.

Would you also stand on the -no fines to litter droppers either - manifesto

Nascot,

have you ever received pay for work done in the councils interest? A yes or no will suffice.

On policy matters and principles, it seems that you have either misunderstood my position on common sense or choose to misrepresent it willingly.

I am all for common sense in the approach to council and governing.

I am for low taxes, removing wasteful spending and taking a common-sense approach to enforcing by-laws.

By way of example, I am the sort of person who thinks it wrong to clamp cars and charge a fortune to get them released, often with the threat of menaces and much inconvenience. I am for giving people a warning if they break a minor law rather than imposing hefty fines for first offences.

We differ on such matters. I do not believe that fining people large amounts of money is the first and only solution to a problem (£75 is a large amount of money to a good many people).

So, in answer to your question, I would not agree to stand on "no fines for litterer droppers", it's not a policy I or any sensible person would support. I am (almost) surprised at you for suggesting it.

BTW, do you know Clarkie personally?