Damage to traffic signal causes confusion on Dome Roundabout

First published in News Watford Observer: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

A mother of two said she was nearly struck by a car after a traffic signal at the Dome Roundabout in Watford turned green for pedestrians and drivers at the same time.

Jenna Louise, 27, of Cow Lane said the signal at the pedestrian crossing where North Western Avenue exits the roundabout towards Leavesden had been faulty for some time.

A traffic accident on Monday afternoon also saw one of the other signals demolished on the Colne Way exit, prompting confusion between motorists and pedestrians.

Ms Louise said: “The pedestrian signal goes green for pedestrians and cars at the same time.

“I know there have been near misses, a friend started to walk across with her pram and had to pull it back quickly.

“I was told about it by a friend then I crossed there with my two boys as we were coming back to school and exactly what they said happened.

“I don’t think it is the drivers’ fault, they are only interested in getting from A to B so pull away when the light goes green.”

Ms Louise contacted Hertfordshire County Council to report the problem and, although no fault with the timing was discovered on the remote monitoring system, an engineer from Ringway was sent to inspect the lights.


Matthew Kelley, Ringway Divisional Manager, said the engineer could not see a conflict with the lights but noticed confusion between drivers and pedestrians where the pole had been knocked down.

He said: “We were notified by the police at 15:15 on Monday 8 October 2012 that a traffic light pole had been knocked over on the Dome Roundabout in Watford.

"An incident was immediately logged and an engineer dispatched to make the traffic light pole safe by disabling the electrical supply. The next day, we were informed that the traffic signals were turning green for pedestrians and drivers at the same time. 

"Our remote monitoring systems were analysed and no issues were detected; however, due to the nature of the reported fault an engineer was dispatched to investigate.

“The engineer could detect no conflicts in the lights, but on further observation of pedestrians and drivers it was identified that there was some confusion due to the knocked down traffic pole.

"A decision was made that it would be safer to switch off the pedestrian crossing lights until we could replace the traffic pole. 

“Due to the safety issues presented by the knock down and subsequent switching off of the crossing lights the installation of the new traffic light pole was completed yesterday.”

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5:09pm Sat 13 Oct 12

phil mitchel says...

“I was told about it by a friend then I crossed there with my two boys as we were coming back to school and exactly what they said happened.
Or to put it another way..her friend told her she nearly got run over so she thought she'd see if she could nearly get run over as well.
“I was told about it by a friend then I crossed there with my two boys as we were coming back to school and exactly what they said happened. Or to put it another way..her friend told her she nearly got run over so she thought she'd see if she could nearly get run over as well. phil mitchel
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9:45pm Sat 13 Oct 12

pepsiman says...

All lights,signals,barri
ers etc etc are just to asssist you - dont put your life in their hands, you have to do your own checks. I wouldnt trust my life to a green light bulb! Commen sense?
All lights,signals,barri ers etc etc are just to asssist you - dont put your life in their hands, you have to do your own checks. I wouldnt trust my life to a green light bulb! Commen sense? pepsiman
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12:34am Sun 14 Oct 12

mc77 says...

phil mitchel wrote:
“I was told about it by a friend then I crossed there with my two boys as we were coming back to school and exactly what they said happened.
Or to put it another way..her friend told her she nearly got run over so she thought she'd see if she could nearly get run over as well.
Excuse me? I believe what this woman is referring to, in "risk assessment" speak, is what is called a "near miss". And is absolutely right in bringing it to peoples' attention. There is absolutely no grounds for criticism here. I have never traversed the Dome roundabout on foot, and have always driven through it, but it is obvious to see that the only way to travel across it is to attempt to use the pedestrian crossings. Crossings that should be maintained by HCC, there is no alternative. She clearly wasn't "trying it out", but attempting to get her family from A to B in as safer manner as possible. No accident occurred (thankfully), so where is the need to criticize?
[quote][p][bold]phil mitchel[/bold] wrote: “I was told about it by a friend then I crossed there with my two boys as we were coming back to school and exactly what they said happened. Or to put it another way..her friend told her she nearly got run over so she thought she'd see if she could nearly get run over as well.[/p][/quote]Excuse me? I believe what this woman is referring to, in "risk assessment" speak, is what is called a "near miss". And is absolutely right in bringing it to peoples' attention. There is absolutely no grounds for criticism here. I have never traversed the Dome roundabout on foot, and have always driven through it, but it is obvious to see that the only way to travel across it is to attempt to use the pedestrian crossings. Crossings that should be maintained by HCC, there is no alternative. She clearly wasn't "trying it out", but attempting to get her family from A to B in as safer manner as possible. No accident occurred (thankfully), so where is the need to criticize? mc77
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4:01am Sun 14 Oct 12

jennalouise says...

Than you mc77

Just to clarify I contacted the WO for advice on the matter as Herts County Council were rather unhelpful and I was unsure who else to inform.

I asked observer owl on twitter this question. In responce Ben contacted me the following day. I did not claim I hsd nesrly been struck by a xar as I am always very cautious at crossings because I have lost someone close to me in an RTA. I have 1 son, not two!

That crossing was the "safest" and omly route home for us on foot! I do not live on Cow Lane and the reporter has gained all this information via my twitter!

A friend of mine had mentioned it had happened to her in a conversation days previous however I was reminded by it whilst crossing and realising both lights were greeat the same time.

I merely wanted advice from WO not an inaccurate and exaggerated, poorly worded article!
Than you mc77 Just to clarify I contacted the WO for advice on the matter as Herts County Council were rather unhelpful and I was unsure who else to inform. I asked observer owl on twitter this question. In responce Ben contacted me the following day. I did not claim I hsd nesrly been struck by a xar as I am always very cautious at crossings because I have lost someone close to me in an RTA. I have 1 son, not two! That crossing was the "safest" and omly route home for us on foot! I do not live on Cow Lane and the reporter has gained all this information via my twitter! A friend of mine had mentioned it had happened to her in a conversation days previous however I was reminded by it whilst crossing and realising both lights were greeat the same time. I merely wanted advice from WO not an inaccurate and exaggerated, poorly worded article! jennalouise
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4:02am Sun 14 Oct 12

jennalouise says...

*green*
*green* jennalouise
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4:04am Sun 14 Oct 12

jennalouise says...

Apologies for errors above. My phones predictive text is unpredictable!
Apologies for errors above. My phones predictive text is unpredictable! jennalouise
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11:51am Sun 14 Oct 12

LSC says...

jennalouise wrote:
Apologies for errors above. My phones predictive text is unpredictable!
I don't know quite why, but this made me laugh more than it should have. Not at you, just as some sort of summary of the modern world.
[quote][p][bold]jennalouise[/bold] wrote: Apologies for errors above. My phones predictive text is unpredictable![/p][/quote]I don't know quite why, but this made me laugh more than it should have. Not at you, just as some sort of summary of the modern world. LSC
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10:35pm Sun 14 Oct 12

G_Whiz says...

I see it too! - what we are doing right and doing wrong - All in one hit!
I see it too! - what we are doing right and doing wrong - All in one hit! G_Whiz
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10:39am Mon 15 Oct 12

Honest Rog says...

Easy to solve this one. Turn off the lights which serve no other purpose than to stop traffic and increase air pollutants. 30 metres from each exit from the roundabout instal pedestrian crossings. Result of this is that traffic flows efficiently and cleanly. It would result in safer crossing for pedestrians because when stopped at the kerb one only has to wait for one or two cars to pass before an obliging motorist stops.
Traffic signals on roundabouts are there to control citizens. Oh, of course, and as a source of revenue. Trouble is; are we ready to take control of our lives again?
I bet there's a bloke from Garston who wants cameras every 20 metres who will disagree.
Easy to solve this one. Turn off the lights which serve no other purpose than to stop traffic and increase air pollutants. 30 metres from each exit from the roundabout instal pedestrian crossings. Result of this is that traffic flows efficiently and cleanly. It would result in safer crossing for pedestrians because when stopped at the kerb one only has to wait for one or two cars to pass before an obliging motorist stops. Traffic signals on roundabouts are there to control citizens. Oh, of course, and as a source of revenue. Trouble is; are we ready to take control of our lives again? I bet there's a bloke from Garston who wants cameras every 20 metres who will disagree. Honest Rog
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12:13pm Mon 15 Oct 12

miwe2 says...

The truth is that the A41 from the Sainsburys exit to the roundabout exits is a dangerous, beurocracy inspired mess which has caused more accidents than anything else in this area.
The truth is that the A41 from the Sainsburys exit to the roundabout exits is a dangerous, beurocracy inspired mess which has caused more accidents than anything else in this area. miwe2
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1:44pm Mon 15 Oct 12

WatfordBandB says...

traffic lights on a roundabout, whatever next, unused bus lanes???
traffic lights on a roundabout, whatever next, unused bus lanes??? WatfordBandB
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1:45pm Mon 15 Oct 12

WatfordBandB says...

pot holes? sleeping police men?
pot holes? sleeping police men? WatfordBandB
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