Man jailed for selling cannabis (From Watford Observer)
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Cannabis factories discovered after police smell drug in man's car
10:20am Monday 22nd October 2012 in News
TWO cannabis factories were discovered after the police smelt the drug in a Mercedes they had pulled over at Hunton Bridge.
Pedro Faustino, a 37-year-old Portuguese man, was stopped in Watford Road on July 20 this year, St Albans Crown Court heard on Friday.
Prosecutor David Chrimes said the car smelt of cannabis and when it was searched they found a small knife and £3,000 in cash.
Faustino was helpful to the officers and gave them two addresses where cannabis was growing. They found 80 plants in Little Hill, Rickmansworth, and 244 more at Acre Wood in Dimmocks Lane, Sarratt. At Sarratt there was another outbuilding that had been used to dry an earlier crop.
Mr Chrimes said Faustino, a former chauffeur, gave full and frank admissions to the police saying that when he was stopped he had sold 10 ounces of the drug for £1,300. The 324 plants could have yielded 13 kilos of the drug with a potential street value of £130,000, said the prosecutor.
Faustino of Popes Road, Abbots Langley pleaded guilty to possessing 5.67 kilos of cannabis with intent to supply, production of cannabis and having a blade. As each charge was put to him he said: "I am sorry, guilty." He had no previous convictions.
Kate Barbour, defending, asked for credit for Faustino's early guilty plea and the co-operation he had given the police.
She said Faustino, who had come to the UK in 1997, was not aware of the seriousness of the offences.
He had been in a significant amount of debt after his chauffeur business had failed. He had separated from his wife, but they were now reconciled, she said.
Judge Stephen Gullick jailed him for 18 months. A confiscation hearing will be heard at a later date.
Comments(24)
TRT
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12:34pm Mon 22 Oct 12
I agree with the medical uses of the substance, but I can see no reason for a social use for the drug at all.
Hats off to the guy for actually confessing to his role in the crime and providing the police with the information they required to bring about this bigger bust instead of dragging the process out.
stoatstrudle
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12:35pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Babs Stanley here is quite a regular offender as is Jack Stanley Evans(a relative?), poetpeter and Peter Reynolds. A google of the name Peter Reynolds throws up some interesting results, it seems he is the leader of this CLEAR group Babs mentions.
It also seems that alot of people have taken exception to some of Peter Reynolds' comments and i'm not surprised, take a look at his blog or read what the Jewish Chronicle made of Peters comments on Jews.
http://www.thejc.com
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LSC
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12:50pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Which is the best advert for keeping drugs illegal of all.
garston tony
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1:23pm Mon 22 Oct 12
As to the trolls which inevitably will come along and give their copied two pennies worth, whilst the current situation surrounding illegal drugs may not be perfect legalising them will not suddenly magic the issues away. They'll still be there in spades be it the actual adverse effects the drugs have on people, users turning to crime to feed their habits and criminal activity surrounding the supply.
So please don’t wear down your control, c and v buttons on your keyboard by reproducing the same old tired rubbish you have been the past few times the subject of drugs has come up
Babs Stanley
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1:57pm Mon 22 Oct 12
We spend £500,000,000 every year on the criminal justice system for cannabis alone and over one million British citizens have been criminalised for possessing or growing cannabis.
I and everyone who supports CLEAR will continue to do all we can to inform and educate people. The government and most newspapers, at the behest of the alcohol industry, are in the business of untruths and propaganda.
Every time there is a story about cannabis we will provide true and factual information and evidence. Sorry if you don't like it but it will not change.
stoatstrudle
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2:13pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Babs Stanley wrote:Do you know Peter, Babs? Do you support his comments on Jews? What do you make of this from the JC?
It is vital that the truth about cannabis and our present corrupt, dishonest policy is made clear.
We spend £500,000,000 every year on the criminal justice system for cannabis alone and over one million British citizens have been criminalised for possessing or growing cannabis.
I and everyone who supports CLEAR will continue to do all we can to inform and educate people. The government and most newspapers, at the behest of the alcohol industry, are in the business of untruths and propaganda.
Every time there is a story about cannabis we will provide true and factual information and evidence. Sorry if you don't like it but it will not change.
http://www.thejc.com
/news/uk-news/82744/
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garston tony
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2:16pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Babs Stanley wrote:Ctrl C
It is vital that the truth about cannabis and our present corrupt, dishonest policy is made clear. We spend £500,000,000 every year on the criminal justice system for cannabis alone and over one million British citizens have been criminalised for possessing or growing cannabis. I and everyone who supports CLEAR will continue to do all we can to inform and educate people. The government and most newspapers, at the behest of the alcohol industry, are in the business of untruths and propaganda. Every time there is a story about cannabis we will provide true and factual information and evidence. Sorry if you don't like it but it will not change.
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garston tony
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2:19pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Google 'conspiracy theory'
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Seriously, the drinks companies are behind this are they now?
LSC
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2:25pm Mon 22 Oct 12
You mis-typed this sentence. You wrote: 'been criminalised' when you meant 'are criminals'
Hope this helps, there is no charge for this service.
LSC
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2:28pm Mon 22 Oct 12
LSC wrote:And yes, you druggies do cost us a lot don't you? Why don't you just stop it?
"We spend £500,000,000 every year on the criminal justice system for cannabis alone and over one million British citizens have been criminalised for possessing or growing cannabis."
You mis-typed this sentence. You wrote: 'been criminalised' when you meant 'are criminals'
Hope this helps, there is no charge for this service.
Oh, you can't.
SuperSilverSourDiesel
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3:22pm Mon 22 Oct 12
the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races
You smoke a joint and your likely to kill your brother
Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind
There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others
Years and years of lies and propaganda have left the public misinformed and scared. The 'reefer madness' propaganda still exists, we see it in the Daily Mail all the time. So cannabis wasnt outlawed because it may have a small potential for harm when abused by an underdeveloped brain, it was everything to do with Money, vested interest and lies, and nothing to do with harm reduction. In fact, prohibiting cannabis has caused many more problems, harms and dangers than the cannabis itself. Simply by disallowing regulation gifting the control to the only people in society will taking to take a risk for freedom, criminals.
Why is cannabis still illegal today, even though we should have learnt our lesson from alcohol prohibition?
Vested Interest, Corrupt/Cowardly politicians, Propaganda and misinformation, The pressure from the alcohol lobby, GWpharma (who grow cannabis in Kent), the people getting paid thanks to prohibition (Alcohol, tobacco, pharmaceutical companies, drug testing companies, i could go on...) and of course, personal prejudices. Im not saying cannabis is harmless, but compared to aspirin, its MUCH safer. Its a medicine, and has been considered a medicine a lot longer than its been considered a street drug. No one would consider any psychoactive substance 'safe', but compared to alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceuticals, its so much safer for responsible adults to use.
''im fairly confident that cannabis is safe for over-18 brains, but risky for under-18 brains'' - Professor Terrie Moffitt, Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, 2012
But the media love to lie about cannabis or any other drug for that matter.
"If a scientist announces their research has found ecstasy to be safer than alcohol, I know my job as a tabloid reporter is to portray this man as a quack." - Richard Peppiatt, Daily Star reporter, the Leveson inquiry
We need to take the control away from criminals. Undercutting prices and bringing it into a regulated market will see a decline in criminals selling it and children buying it. When a country regulates cannabis, drug use goes down and age of first use goes up. 99% of associated crimes decline. Prohibition has always done the opposite of what its meant to. Its a failed experiment having nothing to do with Expert advice, scientific evidence or our health and safety. Just say No to prohibition, it causes more harm than cannabis ever could.
SuperSilverSourDiesel
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3:24pm Mon 22 Oct 12
garston tony wrote:LOL alcohol companies have openly lobbied against legal regulation of cannabis as it is a threat to their profits. Sheep these days, keep mindlessly grazing the field.
I would add;
Google 'conspiracy theory'
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Seriously, the drinks companies are behind this are they now?
JINGLE BOP
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3:55pm Mon 22 Oct 12
SuperSilverSourDiesel
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4:23pm Mon 22 Oct 12
LSC
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4:39pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Is there ANY straw you wont clutch at to justify your addiction?
LSC
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4:42pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Go on, you know you want to.
LSC
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4:59pm Mon 22 Oct 12
You quote a professor I've never heard of being unsure and using the word 'risky' and a reporter from the Daily Star.
Go for it, you're winning.
G_Whiz
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9:41pm Mon 22 Oct 12
The following risks are associated with cannabis use:
Even hardcore smokers can become anxious, panicky, suspicious or paranoid.
Cannabis affects your co-ordination, which is one of the reasons why drug driving, like drink driving, is illegal.
Some people think cannabis is harmless because it’s a plant, but it isn’t harmless. Cannabis, like tobacco, has lots of chemical 'nasties', which, with long-term or heavy use, can cause lung disease and possibly cancer. The risk is greater because cannabis is often mixed with tobacco and smoked without a filter. It can also make asthma worse, and cause wheezing in people without asthma.
Cannabis itself can affect many different systems in the body, including the heart. It increases the heart rate and can affect blood pressure.
If you have a history of mental health problems, taking cannabis is not a good idea. It can cause paranoia in the short term, but in those with a pre-existing psychotic illness, such as schizophrenia, it can contribute to relapse.
If you use cannabis and have a family background of mental illness, such as schizophrenia, you may be at increased risk of developing a psychotic illness.
It is reported that frequent use of cannabis can cut a man's sperm count and reduce sperm motility. It can suppress ovulation in women and so may affect fertility.
If you’re pregnant, smoking cannabis frequently may increase the risk of the baby being born smaller than expected.
Regular, heavy use of cannabis makes it difficult to learn and concentrate. Some people begin to feel tired all the time and can't seem to get motivated.
Some users buy strong herbal cannabis (also known as skunk) to get ‘a bigger high’. Unpleasant reactions can be more powerful when you use strong cannabis, and it is possible that using strong cannabis repeatedly could increase the risk of harmful effects such as dependence or developing mental health problems.
Any other country and the bloke would be deported! We have enough criminals of our own!
drunkenduck
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11:54pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Who gives a flying hoot about cannabis and the users. It's a drug that if it ever (not) gets illegalize, criminals will still make money from it.
Like many drugs including illegal drugs, over the counter and proscription drugs. Criminals will still make money from either by making counterfeit drugs and/or try to smuggle the drug in. Even ecstasy, lsd etc drugs get counterfeit with ingredients i.e. with rat poison are added. So what's stopping criminals adding something to cannabis that can cause more harm to the the user?
All criminals want is to make profits end of the day and sod the heath of the customer even proscription drugs are copied and tobacco is smuggled in. But these always a catch with illegal drugs, you have no idea what has been added if any, ingredients until it's too late and die.
So you are not resolving the over all problem, just pushing it to one side and been arrogant and only thinking about yourselves. Sod the victims, their families etc.
garston tony
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11:25am Tue 23 Oct 12
It seems that some of the pro drug lot havent managed to grasp the point that two wrongs don’t make a right. Just because alcohol and tobacco are legal does not mean other harmful products should also be made legal.
As I've said before and drunkenduck alluded to legalising drugs will not get rid of ANY of the associated issues. They will still be detrimental to health, the users will still turn to crime to fund their habits / be unproductive members of society / leaches, friends and families will still be affected by the changes taking place in the users, innocent people will still be murdered/enslaved/ma
ined/petrified over its control, dealing with the effects will still be a burden to the tax payer (NHS/police and so on) and criminals will still have their tentacles all over it.
The current situation may not be perfect but legalising drugs will not change anything
HertsPeter
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11:48am Tue 23 Oct 12
A combination of education to teach of the dangers, alongside strict, harsh sentencing for possession, use, and dealing - that's the way ahead.
Additionally, alcohol and tobacco must always be demonstrated as dangerous lethal drugs which just happen to be legal.
LSC
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1:25pm Tue 23 Oct 12
I think our cut and pasters have moved on to the Croydon Gazette or somewhere now anyway.
Or perhaps they have the munchies and are at the shops.
garston tony
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1:33pm Wed 24 Oct 12
LSC wrote:I'm sure we'll here from them again (word for word repeating what they've posted before).
Hahahaha Tony, I knew they would come up but didn't think it would be you! I think our cut and pasters have moved on to the Croydon Gazette or somewhere now anyway. Or perhaps they have the munchies and are at the shops.
As to the Nazi's they get a lot of bad press and quite rightly so, which makes the occassional things they got right more astonishing I guess.
I think technically me bringing them up means that I lost the argument however. Oh dear
Babs Stanley says...
12:22pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Doctors would be able to prescribe one of the most effective medicines that has no serious side effects at all. At the moment the government has given GW Pharmaceuticals an illegal monopoly on cannabis so they make millions out of a medicine that you can grow in your greenhouse for virtually nothing.
If we introduced a legally regulated system we would solve nearly all the problems around cannabis. Science proves how much safer it is than tobacco, alcohol, prescription medicines and all other recreational drugs. If anyone does have a problem with it they could get help without having to confess to a crime.
CLEAR published independent, expert research last year which shows that a tax and regulate policy on cannabis would produce a net gain to the UK economy of up to £9.3 billion per annum.
It is a scandal that our government, our judges, our courts, our police and our newspapers keep misleading us about cannabis. Find out the truth for yourself and wake up to the lies you have been told.