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No statement on Watford's financial position but money owed to Jimmy Russo not due until tomorrow

Watford are not expected to release a statement confirming their financial position tonight but the Watford Observer understands the deadline to repay former chairman Jimmy Russo the £4.88m he is owed has been extended until tomorrow lunch time.

This morning a statement from the Hornets’ parent company Watford Leisure Plc stated Russo had demanded the immediate repayment of the £4.88m he loaned the club “on or before close of business on 16 December 2009”.

But we understand the club now have until tomorrow afternoon before Russo’s company Valley Grown Salads will demand its money back.

Failure to pay the cash could result in the club going into administration.

Russo decided to recall the money after he, his brother Vince and business associate Robin Williams all resigned from the board at the Watford Leisure AGM last night.

The trio stepped down as they felt they had lost the support of some board members and were going to be ousted by major shareholders Lord Michael Ashcroft and Graham Simpson regardless.

Click here to read this morning’s statement from Watford Leisure

Click here to read our detailed report from last night’s AGM

Comments(38)

duckfan10 says...
7:31pm Wed 16 Dec 09

The dance continues!

smeg says...
7:37pm Wed 16 Dec 09

I guess that would suggest that the money may appear by then? Otherwise what would be the point of extending the deadline?

rhyse848 says...
7:43pm Wed 16 Dec 09

this is good news surely. that means there must be some money in place.:S

Speedydog says...
7:56pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Maybe David Cameroon has told Ashcroft he may be jeopardising that walnut Harrington's chances of getting elected.

Hornet Cornet says...
7:59pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Maybe Elon's going to pump a load of money in and Simpo and Lord Ashcroft will sell their stake, then Spurs will give us £25m for Loach and we can rebuild (again).

I'm jabbering

palmeris60 says...
8:03pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Wouldn't it be great if we could just get a group of people together that could run the club according to its income. Just like most of us run our homes. If we have to drop down a division or two then sobeit. Get rid of all of the players that are on massive salaries. Introduce monthly meetings where balance sheet accounts are thoroughly examined. ( I'll do that! ) We're never really going to know whose been fleecing the club but what we have to ensure that its stops here. I think the only person that i'd currently trust is Graham Taylor. I'll be interested to hear what he says. In the meantime i'll put myself forward for the supporters when it comes to examing the balance sheets of the new set up!

Holly68 says...
8:06pm Wed 16 Dec 09

I wouldnt totally trust Taylor either, at the end of the day everyone including him put their own interests first.

V.o.R says...
8:13pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Holly68 wrote:
I wouldnt totally trust Taylor either, at the end of the day everyone including him put their own interests first.
Gasp !

apatters says...
8:24pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Holly68 wrote:
I wouldnt totally trust Taylor either, at the end of the day everyone including him put their own interests first.
Blasphemy

dal8oy says...
8:36pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Holly68 wrote:
I wouldnt totally trust Taylor either, at the end of the day everyone including him put their own interests first.
Stone him/her!!!

There was only one Scully says...
8:53pm Wed 16 Dec 09

The world and his dog have gone mad! We've heard it all now so lets turn on the saviour, GT as well after all he is the elected acting Chairman currently holding the poison chalice. Lets get back on track and remember who started this bun fight when he brought the Belize tory wide boy to the club with no investment. Instead he offered him the silverware and the money for our future.
He should do the honorable thing now and dissapear on one of his dodgy holidays he sells. A total disgrace!

WFC4ever says...
9:00pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Lets hope this leads to good news...don't really want to make up tomorrow to the bad news.

Richard - Come On You Golden Boys! says...
9:02pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Sorry to spoil things with unnecessary facts, but Ashcroft actually underwrote the entire share issue - organised by Simpson in 2006 - at 20p share, which effectively refinanced the club. So he probably put up about £7million of his own money which is now worth zilch.

the main one says...
9:02pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Wouldn't it just be easier for the club to tell Ashcroft and Simpson to sell up, and let the Russo's take full control?
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The Russo's want to buy the club outright, surely that would include the stadium which the loan is secured on, thus wiping out the £4.88m debt. I'm sure WFC would rather attend matches at The Valley Grown Salads Stadium, rather than the club go into administration and maybe lose the use of the stadium.
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Money shouldn't be the issue here, survival is more important, if Ashcroft and Simpson can't see that then they are the disgrace to the club we all think they are.
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When the club has a buyer (the Russo's) surely it is more sensible to accept it, rather than having Ashcroft and Simpson holding out just for money.
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By the time tomorrow WFC could be in administration, yet it doesn't have to be!!!

rochdale away says...
9:21pm Wed 16 Dec 09

have been honoured to meet and get to know a little of the greatest man in our clubs history. If he was a stick of rock his inside would read 'honesty,integrity and watford fc'. As for our friends russo.....'you won't play my game and if you won't give me my toys(money) back NOW....I'll scream and scream and make you suffer(administratio
n). read between the lines of what GT has said.....he didn't see this coming

Elswickhornet says...
9:32pm Wed 16 Dec 09

palmeris60 wrote:
Wouldn't it be great if we could just get a group of people together that could run the club according to its income. Just like most of us run our homes. If we have to drop down a division or two then sobeit. Get rid of all of the players that are on massive salaries. Introduce monthly meetings where balance sheet accounts are thoroughly examined. ( I'll do that! ) We're never really going to know whose been fleecing the club but what we have to ensure that its stops here. I think the only person that i'd currently trust is Graham Taylor. I'll be interested to hear what he says. In the meantime i'll put myself forward for the supporters when it comes to examing the balance sheets of the new set up!
What a great idea Palmeris60. Having supported Watford since the days of Mike Keen (RIP) I think a good dose of reality should be introduced at all football clubs, never mind just Watford. It really doesn't matter what division we play in, each one has it's tough games, good teams etc and it's the anticipaton of the match, the hero worshiping of good honest players and managers (GT) that matter. Players are paid a stupid amount of money and are putting the very clubs they play for at risk. All this baloney about a 'short carer' so they have to be paid well just doesn't wash, no-one has a job for life any more. I may be looking back with rose tinted glasses but lets have a bit of honesty and integrity back in the game.

Speedydog says...
9:32pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Richard - Come On You Golden Boys! wrote:
Sorry to spoil things with unnecessary facts, but Ashcroft actually underwrote the entire share issue - organised by Simpson in 2006 - at 20p share, which effectively refinanced the club. So he probably put up about £7million of his own money which is now worth zilch.
Yes but didn't he get a load of options, which he thought would make him a lot of dosh. Don't think a Tory does anything unless there is a buck to be made somewhere. When have you heard of him being a Watford fan before?

HOOF says...
9:43pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Holly68 wrote:
I wouldnt totally trust Taylor either, at the end of the day everyone including him put their own interests first.
Yet more bull***t from Holly68!!!

pfwhornets says...
9:45pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Thought I saw Julian Winter running around the stadium in the early hours of last night with a petrol can and a box of swan vestas. Knowing our luck we probably didn't pay last months insurance premium.

Gusthehorn says...
9:45pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Did the Russo's not put an offer on the table at the AGM to buy out Ashcroft and Graham Simpson? And the reason they steped down is because they got no response?

Apparently the offer is still on the table from the Russos, I don't blame them steping down, they've had no support and are throwing their own money at a problem that's only going to get worse, its about time Ashcroft and Graham Simpson decided to step up or step away

Safe word - Bind Them

rochdale away says...
9:47pm Wed 16 Dec 09

can we drop the politics, I 'fess' up to being a tory. ashcroft is a nasty piece of work.....as are plenty of labour bods. the goss I heard was he and the Levy bros(spurs) were speculating on an out of town stadium for footie/concerts etc. When the initial planning got laughed at ,ashcroft just saw us a few wasted quid.....at the end of the day we are just pocket money to him. Would also speculate that the russos thought(naively) they could make a few bucks out of him

Derek Payne says...
10:10pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Holly68 wrote:
I wouldnt totally trust Taylor either, at the end of the day everyone including him put their own interests first.
You muppet.

Hornets number 12 fan says...
11:18pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Holly68 wrote:
I wouldnt totally trust Taylor either, at the end of the day everyone including him put their own interests first.
This is the most ridiculous comment I have seen today! Graham Taylor has overseen the very best years of this club!! He could walk away tomorrow and enjoy his retirement he doesn't need this stress.

IRF says...
11:41pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Washing our dirty linen in public comes to mind. Guess we all have to go through this mess, whilst a few businessman play games. Surely it is time to come clean, draw a line and move forward. We are talking about a SME - not ICI, or a high street bank - how difficult is it to run Watford FC, income, expenses, play football - it is not rocket science but it seems beyond certain watches. No one invests in football clubs to make money, hence it is from pleasure status etc. It isn't surprisingly then if the club is not run for profit - that it ends up with cash flow issues. How difficult is it.....that it all I ask. We watch and wait helpless - the board need some fresh faces and need to be open with supporters and shareholders.

derry pigweed says...
11:51pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Is Graham Sterry from the W.S.Trust actually Graham Simpson?

His interview on 3cr this morning was very apathetic and the trust in my opinion are about as useful as a Chocolate Teapot!!

Billie says...
8:28am Thu 17 Dec 09

Richard - Come On You Golden Boys! wrote:
Sorry to spoil things with unnecessary facts, but Ashcroft actually underwrote the entire share issue - organised by Simpson in 2006 - at 20p share, which effectively refinanced the club. So he probably put up about £7million of his own money which is now worth zilch.
At a hefty discount at the time, but a lot more than you would get now!

worthing_hornet says...
8:32am Thu 17 Dec 09

richard, if that is the case, how bad ins the financial advice Ashcroft is getting, if he feels he should continue to side with and support the person, who lost all the money he invested? Surely he must see the russo's as a better opportunity to recoup the money he has already invested?

sceptic says...
8:59am Thu 17 Dec 09

If it actually cost Ashcroft £7 million it would be money he paid no tax on!
If Russo shook hands with him I hope he counted how many fingers he had afterwards.

Chris the Vic says...
9:16am Thu 17 Dec 09

Hornets number 12 I agree with you but:

Jimmy Russo has referred to a lack of board backing as one of the reasons he has gone.

It appears he put a plan to the board to buy the club and the board have not indicated support for or against. Why is that?

Ashcroft has sat on his hands and offerred nothing, Simpson has nothing to offer and the Russos have managed us well in the circumstances and put money in.

The board will have met often to discuss strategies and yet no non-exec has resigned or spoken out.

It makes GT's surprise at the AGm difficult to understand and his comments on administration rather odd. As if the Russos were the only plan available to go forward why wasnt it adopted by the directors as a whole.

Non execs these days have legal obligations and responsibilities, not that it was obvious under Homers reign.

Once the dust has settled I expect GT and his colleagues to explain their actions and reasons fully for their part in the occurrences over the last few months.

GT has always shown integrity and has bundles of common sense but today I wonder but hope i am wrong

tommy gunn says...
10:01am Thu 17 Dec 09

What a complete and utter mess the club is in,sure GT has kept rather quiet but he must be thinking that when he first came to the club he was surrounded by people like Elton,Jim Harrowell, Geoff Smith to name but a few who had the club at heart not like this present bunch.Still look at Burnley,I believe they were close to administration and they haven't done too bad.

bomber18 says...
10:19am Thu 17 Dec 09

Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Holly68 wrote: I wouldnt totally trust Taylor either, at the end of the day everyone including him put their own interests first.
This is the most ridiculous comment I have seen today! Graham Taylor has overseen the very best years of this club!! He could walk away tomorrow and enjoy his retirement he doesn't need this stress.
But didn't GT retire a few years ago and in response to his good service as manager,the Labour Council granted him the freedom of the Borough.We all know what then happened.He scarpered to Aston Villa and took over as their manager.So much for retirement

d_ol says...
10:29am Thu 17 Dec 09

Unfortunatley I always felt this sort of situation was not far away. Thank God for wins against Boro and Forest- points we werent expected to get. Currently if we are deducted 10 points we will sit in 21st 2 points ahead of Sheffield Wednesday. At least it wont plunge us in to the bottom three.

I dont blame the Russos, for me they have a fair point when they get cheesed off at being then only ones to put money in, when dodgy Torrie Ashcroft just twiddles his thumbs.

I dot know what wil happen but MM has done a BRILLIANT job so far, and if we do get deducted points etc, continue to exist AND survive relegation then he needs the Freedom of the Town!

Anyway, back to my prayers......

Hexham Hornet says...
11:03am Thu 17 Dec 09

What I can't understand is if Simpson and Ashcroft had majority shareholding why did they let the Russos take over the Chairmanship and Board? If they then decided they were going to vote them off at the AGM why have they not got somebody else in place? What do they want to do with our club. It doesn't matter who is to blame, but it does matter that there are only enough funds to last 5 days, if the Russos are prepared to wait for their loans to be repaid. Why are Simpson and Ashcroft keeping their heads down? Can GT bring this farce to an end with his wise words? The trouble is we have a club that is not owned by people who want to see it survive, and may possibly prefer to see it go down rather than sell their shares in it a considerably smaller price than they paid for them.

If administrators come in, not only will we receive the 10 point deduction but we may well lose our sellable players, possibly at a reduced rate, thus ending up in a situation where we will not be strong enough to pull ourselves back up the table.

If the fans could form a Barcelona style consortium then would that work? Would it be better to just go into liqudation and cease trading, then start again as a new club? It is all very worrying.

We cannot expect Elton to step in, but he may be interested if the club was to start as a new company.

dawlishhornet says...
12:08pm Thu 17 Dec 09

bomber18 wrote:
Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Holly68 wrote: I wouldnt totally trust Taylor either, at the end of the day everyone including him put their own interests first.
This is the most ridiculous comment I have seen today! Graham Taylor has overseen the very best years of this club!! He could walk away tomorrow and enjoy his retirement he doesn't need this stress.
But didn't GT retire a few years ago and in response to his good service as manager,the Labour Council granted him the freedom of the Borough.We all know what then happened.He scarpered to Aston Villa and took over as their manager.So much for retirement
GT has only the best interests of our club at heart. If you were offered a chance to see our your managerial career at a premiership club would you not take it?

Goldenboy1960 says...
12:24pm Thu 17 Dec 09

The past regime has put this club into serious problems. Originally by their greed and then their self gratification. The people they have employed at the club, of which some are still there are on big money which the club cannot afford. And then there is all the nonsense like the school which is costing Watford big money. They need to return to people who work for the club, know what the club stands for and where it is in the football hierarchy. Work to a budget that our club can afford with hard work, ability and dedication. That is all that was ever needed. Simpson, Ashton and Boothroyd have a lot to answer for, not just in the way they managed but also in the people they firstly let go and those they decided to bring in. Let's hope that whatever happens whether or not Administration is taken that the club can get back to it's roots with people working at the club who care. I have a feeling that Graham Taylor has something going on by what he said at the AGM on Tuesday. "This club has a future, especially if you believe in those that are leading it" We wait and see.

Holly68 says...
12:36pm Thu 17 Dec 09

Hey, yes I am a Russo advocate, I speak and take as I find, and in my opinion, the Russo's are decent guys, who had (have hopefully) Watford's best interests at heart. I liked them very much, am gutted about what's happened. I know that Jimmy was/is very 'emotional' about what's happened. He had to jump before pushed.

I have supported this club for 40 years, I will remain anonomous so as not to compromise myself or others .....

Julian, Graham & Stuart have hardly been 'snow white' in all this, I reiterate that they are ALL protecting their OWN political interests, yes including GT....
If I get the chance to quiz any of those 3 I will put this directly to them !

No one cares more than me about Watford, all I do is report stories (some of which is rumour), that's why we all read these sites right ?????

Watford Supporters Trust - sorry but what a joke they are too !?

Holly68 says...
12:36pm Thu 17 Dec 09

Hey, yes I am a Russo advocate, I speak and take as I find, and in my opinion, the Russo's are decent guys, who had (have hopefully) Watford's best interests at heart. I liked them very much, am gutted about what's happened. I know that Jimmy was/is very 'emotional' about what's happened. He had to jump before pushed.

I have supported this club for 40 years, I will remain anonomous so as not to compromise myself or others .....

Julian, Graham & Stuart have hardly been 'snow white' in all this, I reiterate that they are ALL protecting their OWN political interests, yes including GT....
If I get the chance to quiz any of those 3 I will put this directly to them !

No one cares more than me about Watford, all I do is report stories (some of which is rumour), that's why we all read these sites right ?????

Watford Supporters Trust - sorry but what a joke they are too !?

bomber18 says...
3:44pm Thu 17 Dec 09

dawlishhornet wrote:
bomber18 wrote:
Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Holly68 wrote: I wouldnt totally trust Taylor either, at the end of the day everyone including him put their own interests first.
This is the most ridiculous comment I have seen today! Graham Taylor has overseen the very best years of this club!! He could walk away tomorrow and enjoy his retirement he doesn't need this stress.
But didn't GT retire a few years ago and in response to his good service as manager,the Labour Council granted him the freedom of the Borough.We all know what then happened.He scarpered to Aston Villa and took over as their manager.So much for retirement
GT has only the best interests of our club at heart. If you were offered a chance to see our your managerial career at a premiership club would you not take it?
No!

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