Iwelumo expects to leave Watford for good in January (From Watford Observer)

Very astute!

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There's our push for promotion gone

Fair play to him if he would rather drop down a division and play regularly (and presumably take a pay cut) rather than pick up his wages from us and not play

Alexander The Great wrote:
I confess that I haven't been monitoring Big Chris's progress since he went on loan, but does 3 starts in a month suggest he's struggling to get in the Notts County side?

4 out 10 and subbed on Saturday says it won't be long! Must of our players out on loan on the subs bench and don't even get on the pitch!

buckler wrote:

Alexander The Great wrote:
I confess that I haven't been monitoring Big Chris's progress since he went on loan, but does 3 starts in a month suggest he's struggling to get in the Notts County side?

4 out 10 and subbed on Saturday says it won't be long! Must of our players out on loan on the subs bench and don't even get on the pitch!

Is this the real Buckler ??
You sound like you know what your talking about !!
surely an imposter ? :-)

An honest bloke that did his best. Tried hard but not able to bang the goals in. Good luck Chris. As for the deadwood comments, I do agree but let's hope they all find work somewhere in football.

Always looked like a gazelle on crack to me. Awfully nice bloke and all that but he was never going to feature for long under GZ was he.

No loss, actually quite a relief if he goes! He's 34 and way past his prime, he also has a very poor goal scoring record!
He's been on loan at Notts County for a while and only played three games and hasn't scored!
Be good to get him of the wage bill along with Garner, Dickinson, Forsyth and Jenkins!
A very poor signing at the man who signed him should be sacked!... Oh he was! Lol

He was always an embarressment and should never have been signed. Zola gave him far too many chances, and he should have gone long ago.

pete50 wrote:
He was always an embarressment and should never have been signed. Zola gave him far too many chances, and he should have gone long ago.

How many starts under Zola? what a pathetic post,typical comment from a supporter that know's jack all.He has age against him and far too many strikers in front of him,even Vydra at times can not get in the side.One thing is that no one can fault his effort and even Britt on loan has said that Chris taught him a lot and has taken that to southend with him,and we can see the benefits.So hats off to Chris.

Yet again someone has to mention Yeates,despite him playing exceptionally well during our unbeaten run before Hull.Where do we get these fans from? shenley? Nothing but Negative morons even though he has helped us in a TEAM up to 7th place..

Brainless w@nkers...Best we get rid of all those that can't get in to the side,even Murray.

I thought big Chris worked his balls of to try and get in the team and if I ever see in Argos I will shake his hand

francowatford wrote:
I thought big Chris worked his balls of to try and get in the team and if I ever see in Argos I will shake his hand

That right he did and while he wasn't exactly prolific, when fit he worked hard and caused plenty of problems for opposing defences.
He's 34 and unlikely to get a run in our 1st team now but he's still a decent player and I hope he does well at his new club when he goes.

Bringe wrote:

francowatford wrote:
I thought big Chris worked his balls of to try and get in the team and if I ever see in Argos I will shake his hand

That right he did and while he wasn't exactly prolific, when fit he worked hard and caused plenty of problems for opposing defences.
He's 34 and unlikely to get a run in our 1st team now but he's still a decent player and I hope he does well at his new club when he goes.

BIg Chris was a great help to Zola at the start of the season. His experience helped settle the upheaval down and even now would be useful talking to the front men and giving them the benefit of his experience ( although I agree that he doesn't warrant a place in the team). Probably the best we have played for a full 45 mins this season was against Birmingham , where he led the line. So good luck to him , hope he does well. As for Yeates he has played as well as anyone in the team so far this season. Some players were awful on Saturday , but they don't seem to get slagged off . AS for deadwood ...THAT deadwood team of last year , plus the manager kept us in the division with EFFORT , if not so much technical ability.Some need to respect last seasons team , even if it wasn't pretty...they did a good job. If we had gone down do you think the POZZO's would have been so happy to take over. Prime example is Deeney who is putting the "international" Vydra and other more skilled players to shame with his effort and improvement so far this season.

Plenty of ex players worthy of a few insults and abuse, such as lazy overpaid Ellington, short greedy Connoly, ex scummer Dixon etc, but lets not all just start knocking every player that turns out surplus to requirements such as The Big Man.

It amazes me that he did not have a better conversion rate, however don't think that you can really question the guys effort in particular early season.

I am sure it is best all round if he moves on and I wish him well, only because we are in such a wonderful place right now with an influx of talent at a much higher level. We were unfortunately in the midst of very dark days when he joined on a free and he did his best to help pull together a very cheap and young squad.

Will the same be belittling the efforts of Fessi in a couple of years time when we ship him out to make room for Messi?

D.unstable wrote:
Plenty of ex players worthy of a few insults and abuse, such as lazy overpaid Ellington, short greedy Connoly, ex scummer Dixon etc, but lets not all just start knocking every player that turns out surplus to requirements such as The Big Man.

It amazes me that he did not have a better conversion rate, however don't think that you can really question the guys effort in particular early season.

I am sure it is best all round if he moves on and I wish him well, only because we are in such a wonderful place right now with an influx of talent at a much higher level. We were unfortunately in the midst of very dark days when he joined on a free and he did his best to help pull together a very cheap and young squad.

Will the same be belittling the efforts of Fessi in a couple of years time when we ship him out to make room for Messi?

good post.

D.unstable wrote:
Plenty of ex players worthy of a few insults and abuse, such as lazy overpaid Ellington, short greedy Connoly, ex scummer Dixon etc, but lets not all just start knocking every player that turns out surplus to requirements such as The Big Man.

It amazes me that he did not have a better conversion rate, however don't think that you can really question the guys effort in particular early season.

I am sure it is best all round if he moves on and I wish him well, only because we are in such a wonderful place right now with an influx of talent at a much higher level. We were unfortunately in the midst of very dark days when he joined on a free and he did his best to help pull together a very cheap and young squad.

Will the same be belittling the efforts of Fessi in a couple of years time when we ship him out to make room for Messi?

Well said Dusty. As for Yeates, surprised that he's getting slagged off. His last few performances have been decent at the least. He's made me revalue his worth.
As for Big Chris, not our greatest signing, but he was a nuisance and drew defenders around him leaving space for others. It's not always the guy on the ball doing the hard work.
We mustn't get above ourselves as we climb.

D.unstable wrote:
Plenty of ex players worthy of a few insults and abuse, such as lazy overpaid Ellington, short greedy Connoly, ex scummer Dixon etc, but lets not all just start knocking every player that turns out surplus to requirements such as The Big Man.

It amazes me that he did not have a better conversion rate, however don't think that you can really question the guys effort in particular early season.

I am sure it is best all round if he moves on and I wish him well, only because we are in such a wonderful place right now with an influx of talent at a much higher level. We were unfortunately in the midst of very dark days when he joined on a free and he did his best to help pull together a very cheap and young squad.

Will the same be belittling the efforts of Fessi in a couple of years time when we ship him out to make room for Messi?

Don't always agree with you, D, but spot on with this post as far as I'm concerned. Although he failed to score on most appearances, I felt his sheer workrate, effort and leadership, particularly at the tail end of last season, helped pull the team to their final good finish. Good luck to him for the future.

pete50 wrote:
He was always an embarressment and should never have been signed. Zola gave him far too many chances, and he should have gone long ago.

Don't agree with you on this Peter - Chris when fit played some great games for us and was often quoted as being the difference between the two teams. The problem is a lack of consistency and the age factor - big guys become slower quicker.

a couple of Months back i was parked up at St albans station waiting for my missus' train to come in, and i got blocked in by big Chris' big 4x4! It was worth it though, coz when his wife arrived she was FIT!!

McHornet wrote:
a couple of Months back i was parked up at St albans station waiting for my missus' train to come in, and i got blocked in by big Chris' big 4x4! It was worth it though, coz when his wife arrived she was FIT!!

Best post of the day me old boner

tonyevans22 wrote:

pete50 wrote:
He was always an embarressment and should never have been signed. Zola gave him far too many chances, and he should have gone long ago.

How many starts under Zola? what a pathetic post,typical comment from a supporter that know's jack all.He has age against him and far too many strikers in front of him,even Vydra at times can not get in the side.One thing is that no one can fault his effort and even Britt on loan has said that Chris taught him a lot and has taken that to southend with him,and we can see the benefits.So hats off to Chris.

Yet again someone has to mention Yeates,despite him playing exceptionally well during our unbeaten run before Hull.Where do we get these fans from? shenley? Nothing but Negative morons even though he has helped us in a TEAM up to 7th place..

Brainless w@nkers...Best we get rid of all those that can't get in to the side,even Murray.

It's this sort of posting that dragged this website down a couple of months ago. Northofwatfordpete showed a civilised way of disagreeing. This post makes up comments I haven't made attacks them as well and ends with a bit of personal abuse! He was in our squad 8 times this year. As for his effort the Burnley boards were full of comments about how we had been sold a pup and our own fanzine had an aerobics article by him.
I saw him play two good away games and one effective home game in his time here. The home game was where a big centre half had been bullying Garner - Chris came on and first cross his elbow was in the defender's midriff and the guy just backed off. Effective but not pretty!
He was slow, poor positionally and did not have the ability to hold the ball up like a Jenkins or Rasiak. He is currently struggling to get into the Notts County team - what a star!

Funny he's at Notts County. I believe those fan's favourites, Jordan Stewert and Gavin Mahon are there.
I don't blame his playing abilities, I blame the decision to buy him. We new what we were getting, a player which would play flick the ball on and maybe muscle the ball into the net every now and again. He looked incredibly slow at times, but I believe he tried harder than some other players. He was panic buy...let's move on.

lutondown wrote:

D.unstable wrote:
Plenty of ex players worthy of a few insults and abuse, such as lazy overpaid Ellington, short greedy Connoly, ex scummer Dixon etc, but lets not all just start knocking every player that turns out surplus to requirements such as The Big Man.

It amazes me that he did not have a better conversion rate, however don't think that you can really question the guys effort in particular early season.

I am sure it is best all round if he moves on and I wish him well, only because we are in such a wonderful place right now with an influx of talent at a much higher level. We were unfortunately in the midst of very dark days when he joined on a free and he did his best to help pull together a very cheap and young squad.

Will the same be belittling the efforts of Fessi in a couple of years time when we ship him out to make room for Messi?

Well said Dusty. As for Yeates, surprised that he's getting slagged off. His last few performances have been decent at the least. He's made me revalue his worth.
As for Big Chris, not our greatest signing, but he was a nuisance and drew defenders around him leaving space for others. It's not always the guy on the ball doing the hard work.
We mustn't get above ourselves as we climb.

Your final sentence LD is so true in life as well as in football. Don't forget where you come from!!!

tonyevans22 wrote:

pete50 wrote: He was always an embarressment and should never have been signed. Zola gave him far too many chances, and he should have gone long ago.

How many starts under Zola? what a pathetic post,typical comment from a supporter that know's jack all.He has age against him and far too many strikers in front of him,even Vydra at times can not get in the side.One thing is that no one can fault his effort and even Britt on loan has said that Chris taught him a lot and has taken that to southend with him,and we can see the benefits.So hats off to Chris. Yet again someone has to mention Yeates,despite him playing exceptionally well during our unbeaten run before Hull.Where do we get these fans from? shenley? Nothing but Negative morons even though he has helped us in a TEAM up to 7th place.. Brainless w@nkers...Best we get rid of all those that can't get in to the side,even Murray.

Shenley! I haven't heard that one for a while.
Agree that these sort of posts are not needed. Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether you agree or not.... A little more tolerant fella.