Goals from Matej Vydra and Almen Abdi fire Watford to Bolton Wanderers win

Promotion-challenging Watford return to winning ways

Promotion-challenging Watford return to winning ways

Promotion-challenging Watford return to winning ways

Promotion-challenging Watford return to winning ways

Promotion-challenging Watford return to winning ways

Promotion-challenging Watford return to winning ways

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Watford got their promotion push back on track after their unexpected midweek setback at Bristol City by coming from behind to beat Bolton Wanderers 2-1 at Vicarage Road.

After Troy Deeney had missed an early chance to give the hosts the lead, it was the visitors who made the breakthrough when former Hornets striker Marvin Sordell converted a penalty after Daniel Pudil had fouled Sam Ricketts in the area.

Bolton’s lead was to last just four minutes though, and once against it was Matej Vydra who was on the scoresheet with his 19th of the season after beating Adam Bodgan inside his near post.

What proved to be the decisive moment came with 20 minutes remaining when a neat cross-field build-up involving Nathaniel Chalobah, Almen Abdi and Vydra ended with the Swiss midfielder slotting home his seventh of the campaign.

While Watford were not at their free-flowing best and had to grind this win out to a degree, it was a decent performance and kept the Hornets fourth in the table, moving them back to within a point of second.

Like he did for the surprise 2-0 Tuesday night reverse, Gianfranco Zola made six changes but the side he selected to face the Trotters had a much more familiar look to it.

Lloyd Doyley, Marco Cassetti, Cristian Battocchio, Chalobah, Deeney and Vydra were all back in the starting line-up, with Jonathan Hogg, John Eustace, Sean Murray, Nyron Nosworthy, Fernando Forestieri and Alex Geijo dropping to the bench.

By contrast, Dougie Freedman made just the one change to the team which suffered a late 2-1 home defeat to Everton in the FA Cup and that was in goal, with Bogdan replacing Andy Lonergan. That meant Sordell kept his place in attack and faced the club who he left a year ago to move to the Reebok Stadium, while another Vicarage Road old boy, Chris Eagles, was also in the team.

The opening exchanges were fairly equal and it was the visitors, playing a 4-2-3-1 formation, who had the first effort in the fifth minute when Darren Pratley harmlessly fired over from 20 yards.

Zola’s men though, were careless at times early on, conceding possession and making some questionable decisions but they had the first clear opening in the 11th minute when Chalobah found Vydra in space just inside the Bolton half and he played a superb pass to release Deeney to his right. Watford’s 12-goal striker had time to compose himself and pick his spot but he finished up shooting straight at Bogdan and the visitors were able to clear their lines.

Marcos Alonso had an off-target effort blocked at the other end and then Pudil got in a timely interception as Chung-Young Lee was almost set free on the edge of the area. The next opening also fell Bolton’s way in the 19th minute but Eagles hit a half-volley on the turn over from around 12 yards.

The match continued to simmer without really sparking into life, although the hosts were enjoying more controlled possession as the halfway point of the opening period passed but not in too many areas where they could hurt their opponents.

That could have changed in the 26th minute when Deeney did well to get away from Tim Ream down the right before his over-hit cross was well controlled by Pudil. He laid the ball off to Chalobah, who tried to catch Bogdan out with a lob from the left side of the area and his effort across goal was not too far off target.

Next Battocchio fired wide of Bogdan’s left-hand post from 25 yards after being picked up an Abdi pass but in the 32nd minute the visitors made the breakthrough.

Pudil seemed to have few complaints after he was adjudged to have tripped Ricketts towards the left side of the area and Sordell marked his return to Vicarage Road by sending Manuel Almunia the wrong way from 12 yards, although there was to be no celebration from the England Under-21 striker after making it 1-0.

Almunia soon had to be on his guard again to hold an Alonso free-kick from 25 yards after Hall had fouled Sordell, but Bolton’s lead was to be short-lived thanks to Watford’s ace marksman.

Chalobah started the meaningful part of the 36th-minute move when he found Cassetti, who laid it forward to Vydra. The striker initially looked to flick it around the corner with outside of his boot but the movement deceived Ream and Vydra spun away to latch on to the ball, driving it past Bogdan and inside his near post to make it 11 in his last six starts to level things up at 1-1.

Following the equaliser, Deeney saw a shot deflected wide and from the resultant corner which was flicked on by Cassetti, Hall volleyed over the top as the opening half finished all-square.

Watford began the second half with Deeney attempting to slide in his strike partner inside the opening 30 seconds but Bogdan was alert to the danger and raced off his line to smother.

But it was the visitors who had the first shot after the break, with Spearing hitting a left-footed drive which Almunia had to dive full length to divert away from near his right-hand post.

The Hornets soon had a gone chance of their own though, with Pudil laying the ball into Vydra, who dummied it for Deeney and he set it back to Abdi, whose goal-bound shot was deflected wide.

The hosts continued to up the ante but it was Bolton who went closest to taking the lead for a second time in the 59th minute when a Sordell snap-shot from the left side of the area rebounded away off the outside of Almunia’s right-hand upright.

Within seconds though, a fine pass found Vydra in the area but just as he looked set to lift the ball beyond the onrushing Bogdan, Reach got back to clear with an excellent challenge.

Cassetti and Pratley were both booked in the 66th minute following an off-the-ball tussle as territory and possession swung back in Bolton’s favour for a spell. But four minutes later Watford were in front.

The Hornets broke from their own half, working from right to left as Chalobah fed Abdi who in turn laid the ball off to the Czech international on the left side of the area. Watford’s top scorer weighed up his options before passing back to Abdi, who took a touch before slotting the ball beyond Bogdan and into the far corner to make it 2-1 with his seventh of the campign.

The scorer’s next involvement was to be booked for dissent but Spearing was soon to join him following a foul on Vydra.

While the striker was being treated, Freedman went for broke, making a triple change as Steve De Ridder, Craig Davies and Kebin Davies came on for Eagles, Josh Vela and Sordell.

No sooner had they come on though, than Watford weren’t too far away from adding a third when, after Pudil had been caught in the face, Deeney sprinted across the area to get to the ball ahead of Bogdan. The Hornets striker then stood up a cross to the back post where Vydra rose impressively but he was unable to direct his header back down and on target.

Zola made his first change in the 78th minute, bringing on Nosworthy for Ekstrand, who appeared to have picked up a knock. But the hosts then started to sit back a little too much, allowing Craig Davies the opportunity to have a couple of shots, one from a free-kick from the edge of the area.

Chalobah made way for Hogg with six minutes remaining and then Ricketts picked up the game’s fifth yellow card for a foul on Vydra.

The Hornets might have netted a third in injury time when, after forcing three successive corners in trying to run down the block, Bolton lost the ball and Vydra teed up Abdi, but he fired over.

De Ridder was then cautioned for a foul on Pudil before Eustace came on for Battocchio but the Hornets safely negotiated what turned out to be six-and-a-half minutes of injury time to secure another three points.

Watford: Almunia; Doyley, Hall, Ekstrand (Nosworthy 78); Cassetti, Battocchio (Eustace 90), Chalobah (Hall 84), Abdi, Pudil; Deeney, Vydra. Not used: Murray, Bond, Forestieri and Geijo.

Bolton Wanderers: Bogdan; Ricketts, Knight, Ream, Alonso; Vela (C Davies 76), Spearing; Lee, Pratley, Eagles (De Ridder 76); Sordell (K Davies 76). Not used: N’Gog, Wylde, Dawson and Lonergan.

Bookings: Pratley (66); Cassetti (66); Abdi (73); Spearing (75); Ricketts (88); De Ridder (90).

Attendance: 13,223 (787 away).

Referee: James Adcock.

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5:08pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Mohandas says...

Back to winning ways with our diamonds and reliable Doyley and enough with tinkering with squad rotation and we’re looking forwards not backwards.
Back to winning ways with our diamonds and reliable Doyley and enough with tinkering with squad rotation and we’re looking forwards not backwards. Mohandas
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5:25pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Hornet Cornet says...

hope that leicester and the mcpies mess up and we go up as champions.
hope that leicester and the mcpies mess up and we go up as champions. Hornet Cornet
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5:38pm Sat 2 Feb 13

CARDIFFHORN says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
hope that leicester and the mcpies mess up and we go up as champions.
Can't see that happening.
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: hope that leicester and the mcpies mess up and we go up as champions.[/p][/quote]Can't see that happening. CARDIFFHORN
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5:41pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Hopemole says...

Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game
Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game Hopemole
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5:42pm Sat 2 Feb 13

The Rover says...

Good to see the attendance is creeping up. Starting to get close to that 15,000 target.
Good to see the attendance is creeping up. Starting to get close to that 15,000 target. The Rover
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5:48pm Sat 2 Feb 13

mimiperena says...

dare to start dreaming now, just checked the last ten years championship tables and 2 points a game for the rest of the season shouldl see us up automatically.
Its really is going to be tight between us and Leicester so no more messing with a winning team please Mr Zola.
On another positive 52 points always avoids relegation !!!!!!
dare to start dreaming now, just checked the last ten years championship tables and 2 points a game for the rest of the season shouldl see us up automatically. Its really is going to be tight between us and Leicester so no more messing with a winning team please Mr Zola. On another positive 52 points always avoids relegation !!!!!! mimiperena
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5:52pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Prpwfc says...

We are safe now !!!
We are safe now !!! Prpwfc
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5:54pm Sat 2 Feb 13

peter10531089 says...

Get in! - nice touch from Sordell, not celebrating and good reception when he went off
Get in! - nice touch from Sordell, not celebrating and good reception when he went off peter10531089
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5:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13

mimiperena says...

sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ???? mimiperena
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6:01pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Bush Hornet says...

That was a very well-earned win against 12 men. 2 goals in open play against their questionable pen. Doyley has found another level under Zola! Abdi was majestic as was Vydra. And he's ours at least til the end of the season ha ha! Just hope he stays fit. Love it
That was a very well-earned win against 12 men. 2 goals in open play against their questionable pen. Doyley has found another level under Zola! Abdi was majestic as was Vydra. And he's ours at least til the end of the season ha ha! Just hope he stays fit. Love it Bush Hornet
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6:03pm Sat 2 Feb 13

The Rover says...

mimiperena wrote:
sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
Cardiff will win the league, with Watford as runners up. Last Play-Off place will go to Burnley.

Bristol City and Peterborough will be relegated. Third team to get relegated is a tough call. Could be Birmingham if they go into administration and get a points deduction.
[quote][p][bold]mimiperena[/bold] wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????[/p][/quote]Cardiff will win the league, with Watford as runners up. Last Play-Off place will go to Burnley. Bristol City and Peterborough will be relegated. Third team to get relegated is a tough call. Could be Birmingham if they go into administration and get a points deduction. The Rover
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6:07pm Sat 2 Feb 13

True watford fan says...

The ref next to zat knight was hilarious!!!!! Good win. That's what happens when we play our strongest team!!!
The ref next to zat knight was hilarious!!!!! Good win. That's what happens when we play our strongest team!!! True watford fan
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6:13pm Sat 2 Feb 13

mimiperena says...

Just a thought I am trying to think of the last time that at least one of the three relegated teams from the Premiership the season before were not in the top six at the end of the season, I cant see Bolton/Blackburn or Wolves challenging for the top six spots, more likely a relegation fight for Bolton and possibly even Wolves
Just a thought I am trying to think of the last time that at least one of the three relegated teams from the Premiership the season before were not in the top six at the end of the season, I cant see Bolton/Blackburn or Wolves challenging for the top six spots, more likely a relegation fight for Bolton and possibly even Wolves mimiperena
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6:21pm Sat 2 Feb 13

CARDIFFHORN says...

mimiperena wrote:
sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
Boro are getting caught up in the stick or twist cup scenario.
[quote][p][bold]mimiperena[/bold] wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????[/p][/quote]Boro are getting caught up in the stick or twist cup scenario. CARDIFFHORN
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6:22pm Sat 2 Feb 13

AMP4WATFORD4EVER says...

Good day at the office..... Now lets trash Palace on Friday...... Massive game and lets hope that the boys are up for it. Best of luck.
Good day at the office..... Now lets trash Palace on Friday...... Massive game and lets hope that the boys are up for it. Best of luck. AMP4WATFORD4EVER
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6:39pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Mark-H says...

Good win today in difficult circumstances. A play-off position looks more solid with every win.
Good win today in difficult circumstances. A play-off position looks more solid with every win. Mark-H
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6:40pm Sat 2 Feb 13

a1derek says...

To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again.

Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week.

Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.
To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again. Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week. Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders. a1derek
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6:57pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Eastsussexhornet says...

a1derek wrote:
To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again.

Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week.

Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.
Yes, we were fortunate to win this but it's a good sign if we can win games like that. It is a reflection of the professionalism and the cohesiveness of the team. So it may be a good idea to keep that team from now on.
[quote][p][bold]a1derek[/bold] wrote: To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again. Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week. Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.[/p][/quote]Yes, we were fortunate to win this but it's a good sign if we can win games like that. It is a reflection of the professionalism and the cohesiveness of the team. So it may be a good idea to keep that team from now on. Eastsussexhornet
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7:03pm Sat 2 Feb 13

bigthunder says...

A tough game and a good result , do not agree with you A1derek, although conceeding Bolton played well they were not the better team for large parts of game , and considering the disgraceful ref , that part i do agree with , a good solid result

started slowley , another reason why you should never make so many changes as takes a while to get going , fortunatley today changes involved players coming in who have played regulalrly so only took 30 mins or so to get going , but zola do not want to see a repeat of Tuesday again this season , today proved your best players need to play if we have hope of top 2 finish

well done all though good result , just hope we can still get Vydra & elkstand on pitch friday after international games though we will need them

well done also to doyley and Deeney unsung hero's in my book , by the way what is happeneing re deeney new contract anyone !! needs sorting quick
A tough game and a good result , do not agree with you A1derek, although conceeding Bolton played well they were not the better team for large parts of game , and considering the disgraceful ref , that part i do agree with , a good solid result started slowley , another reason why you should never make so many changes as takes a while to get going , fortunatley today changes involved players coming in who have played regulalrly so only took 30 mins or so to get going , but zola do not want to see a repeat of Tuesday again this season , today proved your best players need to play if we have hope of top 2 finish well done all though good result , just hope we can still get Vydra & elkstand on pitch friday after international games though we will need them well done also to doyley and Deeney unsung hero's in my book , by the way what is happeneing re deeney new contract anyone !! needs sorting quick bigthunder
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7:06pm Sat 2 Feb 13

BigRussMalta says...

Easy with the evens at home....roll on May,either auto promotion or a winning day at Wembley ;-)
U Orns!!!
Easy with the evens at home....roll on May,either auto promotion or a winning day at Wembley ;-) U Orns!!! BigRussMalta
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7:21pm Sat 2 Feb 13

stevemag says...

Watford were great in the second half. Vydra turned the defender inside out for the first goal and showed immense skill and work rate the whole game.

Abdi for me is probably the one with thirst football brain. Challobah outstanding for someone just 18.

As for the ref, what a joke. He completely lost control at various points and seemed to give every decision to the opposition. He looked very young , why do we always get them at the vic !!?
Watford were great in the second half. Vydra turned the defender inside out for the first goal and showed immense skill and work rate the whole game. Abdi for me is probably the one with thirst football brain. Challobah outstanding for someone just 18. As for the ref, what a joke. He completely lost control at various points and seemed to give every decision to the opposition. He looked very young , why do we always get them at the vic !!? stevemag
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7:22pm Sat 2 Feb 13

stevemag says...

stevemag wrote:
Watford were great in the second half. Vydra turned the defender inside out for the first goal and showed immense skill and work rate the whole game.

Abdi for me is probably the one with thirst football brain. Challobah outstanding for someone just 18.

As for the ref, what a joke. He completely lost control at various points and seemed to give every decision to the opposition. He looked very young , why do we always get them at the vic !!?
Best football brain I meant !
[quote][p][bold]stevemag[/bold] wrote: Watford were great in the second half. Vydra turned the defender inside out for the first goal and showed immense skill and work rate the whole game. Abdi for me is probably the one with thirst football brain. Challobah outstanding for someone just 18. As for the ref, what a joke. He completely lost control at various points and seemed to give every decision to the opposition. He looked very young , why do we always get them at the vic !!?[/p][/quote]Best football brain I meant ! stevemag
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7:29pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Bush Hornet says...

Eastsussexhornet wrote:
a1derek wrote:
To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again.

Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week.

Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.
Yes, we were fortunate to win this but it's a good sign if we can win games like that. It is a reflection of the professionalism and the cohesiveness of the team. So it may be a good idea to keep that team from now on.
Eh?? Bolton looked good but we were better. A just result.
[quote][p][bold]Eastsussexhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]a1derek[/bold] wrote: To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again. Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week. Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.[/p][/quote]Yes, we were fortunate to win this but it's a good sign if we can win games like that. It is a reflection of the professionalism and the cohesiveness of the team. So it may be a good idea to keep that team from now on.[/p][/quote]Eh?? Bolton looked good but we were better. A just result. Bush Hornet
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7:35pm Sat 2 Feb 13

bigthunder says...

Ref's name for those that remember these things the very apptly named
James AllCOCK !!
Ref's name for those that remember these things the very apptly named James AllCOCK !! bigthunder
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7:43pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Frelons says...

As someone who falls into that category himself, I must say that refs under 5 ft 7 should not be allowed. Always seem to have little Hitler syndrome. Today's effort at a ref was a complete muppet, it was obvious from a very early stage that he was clueless and going to make many howlers. Had he tossed a coin for every decision he would have achieved a far higher percentage of accuracy.

That said, Bolton played well. We weren't great but a win is a win.
As someone who falls into that category himself, I must say that refs under 5 ft 7 should not be allowed. Always seem to have little Hitler syndrome. Today's effort at a ref was a complete muppet, it was obvious from a very early stage that he was clueless and going to make many howlers. Had he tossed a coin for every decision he would have achieved a far higher percentage of accuracy. That said, Bolton played well. We weren't great but a win is a win. Frelons
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7:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Eastsussexhornet says...

bigthunder wrote:
Ref's name for those that remember these things the very apptly named
James AllCOCK !!
Not forgetting Darren PRATley
[quote][p][bold]bigthunder[/bold] wrote: Ref's name for those that remember these things the very apptly named James AllCOCK !![/p][/quote]Not forgetting Darren PRATley Eastsussexhornet
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8:01pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Mangoputney says...

Good that Bolton came and had a go but once again a ref tried his best to ruin the game.Thought we showed professionalism and did not panic.Vydra absolute class and how he remains with us is a footballing miracle!Glad that Marvin refused to fully celebrate the penalty and even managed a clap for the rookery when he was subbed.it was not vintage by any stretch but against any other seasons standards it would have been! How spoilt we have become!
Good that Bolton came and had a go but once again a ref tried his best to ruin the game.Thought we showed professionalism and did not panic.Vydra absolute class and how he remains with us is a footballing miracle!Glad that Marvin refused to fully celebrate the penalty and even managed a clap for the rookery when he was subbed.it was not vintage by any stretch but against any other seasons standards it would have been! How spoilt we have become! Mangoputney
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8:20pm Sat 2 Feb 13

WessexLad says...

You describe it as a trip, but from where I sat in the Rookery, it looked like a good old-fashioned shoulder charge.

I too was going to suggest that short referees are the most officious, but Frelon got in first.

Some excellent long passes to players in acres of space - but wasted by crosses all over the place, when we should be dropping it on Deeney's head.

Still, teams that go places are those that can win when not at their best, and that was certainly us today.
You describe it as a trip, but from where I sat in the Rookery, it looked like a good old-fashioned shoulder charge. I too was going to suggest that short referees are the most officious, but Frelon got in first. Some excellent long passes to players in acres of space - but wasted by crosses all over the place, when we should be dropping it on Deeney's head. Still, teams that go places are those that can win when not at their best, and that was certainly us today. WessexLad
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8:23pm Sat 2 Feb 13

jasonwatford says...

good game today..thought bolton played quite well and how they can 20th and forest be where they are i dont know....thought almen and cristian and majec were fantastic today.
good game today..thought bolton played quite well and how they can 20th and forest be where they are i dont know....thought almen and cristian and majec were fantastic today. jasonwatford
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8:23pm Sat 2 Feb 13

DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian says...

Now that I've dealt with one moron, we can look at the positives. A win when you're not playing at your best is always the sign of a good team so they say. We've certainly done that today, an efficient performance where we took our chances and didn't perform quite to the standard we know we can.
I'm running out of superlatives for Vydra. I've never seen any player finish as clinically as him when one-on-one.
Let's keep the form going for the game against Palace and hope the international fixtures don't interfere too much. Very exciting times.
Now that I've dealt with one moron, we can look at the positives. A win when you're not playing at your best is always the sign of a good team so they say. We've certainly done that today, an efficient performance where we took our chances and didn't perform quite to the standard we know we can. I'm running out of superlatives for Vydra. I've never seen any player finish as clinically as him when one-on-one. Let's keep the form going for the game against Palace and hope the international fixtures don't interfere too much. Very exciting times. DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian
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8:26pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Mr Tee 123 says...

For me, Zydra, Abdi and Ekstrand were top class. Battocchio is looking like he needs to start every game. Would have of been nice to see Forestieri come on and have a run at them but not sure who for.
Getting more than our fair share of shocking refs, think some of the Refs in the Olympian Sunday football league have done better the what we've had!!!
Oh and what a complete tool that 'Pratley' is.
For me, Zydra, Abdi and Ekstrand were top class. Battocchio is looking like he needs to start every game. Would have of been nice to see Forestieri come on and have a run at them but not sure who for. Getting more than our fair share of shocking refs, think some of the Refs in the Olympian Sunday football league have done better the what we've had!!! Oh and what a complete tool that 'Pratley' is. Mr Tee 123
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8:39pm Sat 2 Feb 13

goldanboy says...

Have no idea how Bolton are 3 points from relagation zone. Very good in the first half and a side who are strong who can knock the ball around.
We certainly looked better the longer the game went on and this was a good hard fought victory. It's a shame that our best player today wont be with us next season. Chalobah was amazing, so skillful and he can bring so many other players into play. Battocchio and Vydra were good to, but they all deserve some credit for grinding out a home victory which keeps the pressure on the teams above us. Not many away fans so we probably had a few more home fans than we thought. Palace on Friday and then away to Brum. Let's try and take a huge following to St Andrews....
Have no idea how Bolton are 3 points from relagation zone. Very good in the first half and a side who are strong who can knock the ball around. We certainly looked better the longer the game went on and this was a good hard fought victory. It's a shame that our best player today wont be with us next season. Chalobah was amazing, so skillful and he can bring so many other players into play. Battocchio and Vydra were good to, but they all deserve some credit for grinding out a home victory which keeps the pressure on the teams above us. Not many away fans so we probably had a few more home fans than we thought. Palace on Friday and then away to Brum. Let's try and take a huge following to St Andrews.... goldanboy
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8:45pm Sat 2 Feb 13

jasonwatford says...

No one has talked about 6 changes zola made today ???
No one has talked about 6 changes zola made today ??? jasonwatford
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8:48pm Sat 2 Feb 13

weeblehorn says...

jasonwatford wrote:
No one has talked about 6 changes zola made today ???
It was just normal service that had been resumed.
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: No one has talked about 6 changes zola made today ???[/p][/quote]It was just normal service that had been resumed. weeblehorn
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8:54pm Sat 2 Feb 13

DuffmanWFC says...

Great win today and sets us up nicely for the Palace game!
Abdi, Vydra, Chalobah and Battocchio were class today and if we manage to surprise our doubters this season and do go up these would be great signings! Maybe Chelsea would listen to an offer for Chalobah as I can't see him getting into the Chelsea first team set up?
Great win today and sets us up nicely for the Palace game! Abdi, Vydra, Chalobah and Battocchio were class today and if we manage to surprise our doubters this season and do go up these would be great signings! Maybe Chelsea would listen to an offer for Chalobah as I can't see him getting into the Chelsea first team set up? DuffmanWFC
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9:01pm Sat 2 Feb 13

A Capello says...

Mr Tee 123 wrote:
For me, Zydra, Abdi and Ekstrand were top class. Battocchio is looking like he needs to start every game. Would have of been nice to see Forestieri come on and have a run at them but not sure who for.
Getting more than our fair share of shocking refs, think some of the Refs in the Olympian Sunday football league have done better the what we've had!!!
Oh and what a complete tool that 'Pratley' is.
Thought I was the only one to notice Mr Pratley's antics. Well done to Cassetti for not getting completely sucked into the blatent provocation. Had the Ref been at the same game Pratley could well have been seeing a red card for the running at Cassetti at the throw in and raising his hand to push him in the chest. Having got away with that he then proceeded to grab cassetti around the neck and pull his head towards him then presumably claiming a head butt? I could go on.

Nice one Watford.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Tee 123[/bold] wrote: For me, Zydra, Abdi and Ekstrand were top class. Battocchio is looking like he needs to start every game. Would have of been nice to see Forestieri come on and have a run at them but not sure who for. Getting more than our fair share of shocking refs, think some of the Refs in the Olympian Sunday football league have done better the what we've had!!! Oh and what a complete tool that 'Pratley' is.[/p][/quote]Thought I was the only one to notice Mr Pratley's antics. Well done to Cassetti for not getting completely sucked into the blatent provocation. Had the Ref been at the same game Pratley could well have been seeing a red card for the running at Cassetti at the throw in and raising his hand to push him in the chest. Having got away with that he then proceeded to grab cassetti around the neck and pull his head towards him then presumably claiming a head butt? I could go on. Nice one Watford. A Capello
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9:03pm Sat 2 Feb 13

aussihornet says...

Wasn't at the game, however sounds like we still deserved it, however fair play to both teams going for it.

If only we didn't lose to Bristol, I know in know, was back on Tuesday, but we'd be 2 points clear in 2nd ATM. Only saying it in relation to no other teams doing us a favour v Leicester & Cardiff. Cardiff never win by more than a goal difference, Peterborough was the last team to bother giving them a game & Leicester, last two games, wolves only bothered to start playing when they were 2-1 down, still lost & before that Middlesborough fluffed a last min penalty.

Just be nice if other teams could deny top two wins soon.

Anyways, Battocchio sounds like he's making a cracking contribution.

Palace next week is really important! I really hope Watford request their players who have been called up, only play 45 mins MAX. we still need them on Friday, crucial game as we could go 2nd.

Nosworthy will definitely be out, no way he'd play after a game in Mexico on Wednesday!

Top Job today Watford !!
Wasn't at the game, however sounds like we still deserved it, however fair play to both teams going for it. If only we didn't lose to Bristol, I know in know, was back on Tuesday, but we'd be 2 points clear in 2nd ATM. Only saying it in relation to no other teams doing us a favour v Leicester & Cardiff. Cardiff never win by more than a goal difference, Peterborough was the last team to bother giving them a game & Leicester, last two games, wolves only bothered to start playing when they were 2-1 down, still lost & before that Middlesborough fluffed a last min penalty. Just be nice if other teams could deny top two wins soon. Anyways, Battocchio sounds like he's making a cracking contribution. Palace next week is really important! I really hope Watford request their players who have been called up, only play 45 mins MAX. we still need them on Friday, crucial game as we could go 2nd. Nosworthy will definitely be out, no way he'd play after a game in Mexico on Wednesday! Top Job today Watford !! aussihornet
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9:08pm Sat 2 Feb 13

onion8837 says...

Thank god for that ! Not our best performance by a long chalk but a ground out win....Chalobah had hiw worst game for us today but we can forgive him that. Just keep to the first XI please GFZ
Thank god for that ! Not our best performance by a long chalk but a ground out win....Chalobah had hiw worst game for us today but we can forgive him that. Just keep to the first XI please GFZ onion8837
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9:09pm Sat 2 Feb 13

3Lions4Ever says...

Hopemole wrote:
Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game
Hogg, Eustace, Murray, Yeates, etc. against Palace I suppose. Zola will need to inspire performances out of them along the lines of "show everyone you're not just second string". If he can i still think we've got a chance of taking the points.
[quote][p][bold]Hopemole[/bold] wrote: Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game[/p][/quote]Hogg, Eustace, Murray, Yeates, etc. against Palace I suppose. Zola will need to inspire performances out of them along the lines of "show everyone you're not just second string". If he can i still think we've got a chance of taking the points. 3Lions4Ever
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9:31pm Sat 2 Feb 13

SAHornet says...

3Lions4Ever wrote:
Hopemole wrote:
Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game
Hogg, Eustace, Murray, Yeates, etc. against Palace I suppose. Zola will need to inspire performances out of them along the lines of "show everyone you're not just second string". If he can i still think we've got a chance of taking the points.
The main problem with that midfield line-up would be Murray. Such a hot prospect last season. Should have fitted into this setup perfectly but now sadly gone to seed and needs careful but firm mentoring imo.
[quote][p][bold]3Lions4Ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hopemole[/bold] wrote: Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game[/p][/quote]Hogg, Eustace, Murray, Yeates, etc. against Palace I suppose. Zola will need to inspire performances out of them along the lines of "show everyone you're not just second string". If he can i still think we've got a chance of taking the points.[/p][/quote]The main problem with that midfield line-up would be Murray. Such a hot prospect last season. Should have fitted into this setup perfectly but now sadly gone to seed and needs careful but firm mentoring imo. SAHornet
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9:39pm Sat 2 Feb 13

3Lions4Ever says...

SAHornet wrote:
3Lions4Ever wrote:
Hopemole wrote:
Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game
Hogg, Eustace, Murray, Yeates, etc. against Palace I suppose. Zola will need to inspire performances out of them along the lines of "show everyone you're not just second string". If he can i still think we've got a chance of taking the points.
The main problem with that midfield line-up would be Murray. Such a hot prospect last season. Should have fitted into this setup perfectly but now sadly gone to seed and needs careful but firm mentoring imo.
Tough to understand Murray's recent form I agree. Maybe not actually getting any mentoring or enough attention/guidance from Zola or other coaches at the club?
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]3Lions4Ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hopemole[/bold] wrote: Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game[/p][/quote]Hogg, Eustace, Murray, Yeates, etc. against Palace I suppose. Zola will need to inspire performances out of them along the lines of "show everyone you're not just second string". If he can i still think we've got a chance of taking the points.[/p][/quote]The main problem with that midfield line-up would be Murray. Such a hot prospect last season. Should have fitted into this setup perfectly but now sadly gone to seed and needs careful but firm mentoring imo.[/p][/quote]Tough to understand Murray's recent form I agree. Maybe not actually getting any mentoring or enough attention/guidance from Zola or other coaches at the club? 3Lions4Ever
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9:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13

WessexLad says...

Far from Murray "fitting into this setup perfectly", SA Hornet, I don't see where he fits in at all.

He is a winger, and needs a full back behind him to work with. There is no such position in Zola's formation: he can't play wing back, as he is not a back, but lacks the presence to operate effectively in midfield.

By all accounts, he could do a lot more to look after himself physically when out on the town. A loan to a no nonsense manager could be the making of him, though.
Far from Murray "fitting into this setup perfectly", SA Hornet, I don't see where he fits in at all. He is a winger, and needs a full back behind him to work with. There is no such position in Zola's formation: he can't play wing back, as he is not a back, but lacks the presence to operate effectively in midfield. By all accounts, he could do a lot more to look after himself physically when out on the town. A loan to a no nonsense manager could be the making of him, though. WessexLad
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10:09pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Mark-H says...

WessexLad wrote:
Far from Murray "fitting into this setup perfectly", SA Hornet, I don't see where he fits in at all.

He is a winger, and needs a full back behind him to work with. There is no such position in Zola's formation: he can't play wing back, as he is not a back, but lacks the presence to operate effectively in midfield.

By all accounts, he could do a lot more to look after himself physically when out on the town. A loan to a no nonsense manager could be the making of him, though.
When he came through, Murray was considered a central attacking midfielder. I still think that if he was Spanish or Italian, he'd be playing in central midfield, maybe doing what Battocchio is doing right now. On his debut against Tottenham he played centre-mid!

That said, going from being a hometown hero to out of the team almost every week must have affected him mentally. Agreed that a loan is the best thing for him - he's not contributing when he gets on the pitch, so a short-term move might sort him out. Somewhere far in the north perhaps!
[quote][p][bold]WessexLad[/bold] wrote: Far from Murray "fitting into this setup perfectly", SA Hornet, I don't see where he fits in at all. He is a winger, and needs a full back behind him to work with. There is no such position in Zola's formation: he can't play wing back, as he is not a back, but lacks the presence to operate effectively in midfield. By all accounts, he could do a lot more to look after himself physically when out on the town. A loan to a no nonsense manager could be the making of him, though.[/p][/quote]When he came through, Murray was considered a central attacking midfielder. I still think that if he was Spanish or Italian, he'd be playing in central midfield, maybe doing what Battocchio is doing right now. On his debut against Tottenham he played centre-mid! That said, going from being a hometown hero to out of the team almost every week must have affected him mentally. Agreed that a loan is the best thing for him - he's not contributing when he gets on the pitch, so a short-term move might sort him out. Somewhere far in the north perhaps! Mark-H
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11:08pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Hampshire hornet says...

A Capello wrote:
Mr Tee 123 wrote:
For me, Zydra, Abdi and Ekstrand were top class. Battocchio is looking like he needs to start every game. Would have of been nice to see Forestieri come on and have a run at them but not sure who for.
Getting more than our fair share of shocking refs, think some of the Refs in the Olympian Sunday football league have done better the what we've had!!!
Oh and what a complete tool that 'Pratley' is.
Thought I was the only one to notice Mr Pratley's antics. Well done to Cassetti for not getting completely sucked into the blatent provocation. Had the Ref been at the same game Pratley could well have been seeing a red card for the running at Cassetti at the throw in and raising his hand to push him in the chest. Having got away with that he then proceeded to grab cassetti around the neck and pull his head towards him then presumably claiming a head butt? I could go on.

Nice one Watford.
He butted Cassetti... How the tiny ref didn't see it... Oh hang on...
Deeney MOM today.. Amazing... He should be Captain...
[quote][p][bold]A Capello[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Tee 123[/bold] wrote: For me, Zydra, Abdi and Ekstrand were top class. Battocchio is looking like he needs to start every game. Would have of been nice to see Forestieri come on and have a run at them but not sure who for. Getting more than our fair share of shocking refs, think some of the Refs in the Olympian Sunday football league have done better the what we've had!!! Oh and what a complete tool that 'Pratley' is.[/p][/quote]Thought I was the only one to notice Mr Pratley's antics. Well done to Cassetti for not getting completely sucked into the blatent provocation. Had the Ref been at the same game Pratley could well have been seeing a red card for the running at Cassetti at the throw in and raising his hand to push him in the chest. Having got away with that he then proceeded to grab cassetti around the neck and pull his head towards him then presumably claiming a head butt? I could go on. Nice one Watford.[/p][/quote]He butted Cassetti... How the tiny ref didn't see it... Oh hang on... Deeney MOM today.. Amazing... He should be Captain... Hampshire hornet
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5:11am Sun 3 Feb 13

watford1881 says...

a1derek wrote:
To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again.

Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week.

Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.
Agree totally.. Wish these mental fans who think we should win easy would go back to supporting man utd... We could have lost today easy.. The same as the second half at Forest..... Wise up........
[quote][p][bold]a1derek[/bold] wrote: To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again. Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week. Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.[/p][/quote]Agree totally.. Wish these mental fans who think we should win easy would go back to supporting man utd... We could have lost today easy.. The same as the second half at Forest..... Wise up........ watford1881
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5:35am Sun 3 Feb 13

lutondown says...

watford1881 wrote:
a1derek wrote:
To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again.

Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week.

Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.
Agree totally.. Wish these mental fans who think we should win easy would go back to supporting man utd... We could have lost today easy.. The same as the second half at Forest..... Wise up........
Go away Bas, lose at Forest? You're a joke.
[quote][p][bold]watford1881[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]a1derek[/bold] wrote: To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again. Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week. Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.[/p][/quote]Agree totally.. Wish these mental fans who think we should win easy would go back to supporting man utd... We could have lost today easy.. The same as the second half at Forest..... Wise up........[/p][/quote]Go away Bas, lose at Forest? You're a joke. lutondown
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6:11am Sun 3 Feb 13

Boosey says...

I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick.
Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved.
Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were.
So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving. Boosey
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6:16am Sun 3 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Boosey wrote:
I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick.
Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved.
Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were.
So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
You didn't save them, your boozed up body happened to fall the right Way!

Interesting note, yet again 75 posts when we win to the 140 odd when we lose!
We really are a glass half empty lot.
Talking of glasses, mine was filled one too many times yesterday.
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]You didn't save them, your boozed up body happened to fall the right Way! Interesting note, yet again 75 posts when we win to the 140 odd when we lose! We really are a glass half empty lot. Talking of glasses, mine was filled one too many times yesterday. lutondown
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6:16am Sun 3 Feb 13

Boosey says...

LD I can't believe you're awake already, you was well lagging yesterday. How's the head? LOL
LD I can't believe you're awake already, you was well lagging yesterday. How's the head? LOL Boosey
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6:19am Sun 3 Feb 13

Boosey says...

Boosey wrote:
LD I can't believe you're awake already, you was well lagging yesterday. How's the head? LOL
I think Sordell might be a lovechild of that stewardess! It's the eyes!
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: LD I can't believe you're awake already, you was well lagging yesterday. How's the head? LOL[/p][/quote]I think Sordell might be a lovechild of that stewardess! It's the eyes! Boosey
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6:21am Sun 3 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Boosey wrote:
Boosey wrote:
LD I can't believe you're awake already, you was well lagging yesterday. How's the head? LOL
I think Sordell might be a lovechild of that stewardess! It's the eyes!
He he he, that stewardess loves me! When getting my telling off I wasn't sure if it was me or Almunia she was rollicking!
The heads sore by the way! Must of been the bitter, Guinness, lager combo. Not a good mix
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: LD I can't believe you're awake already, you was well lagging yesterday. How's the head? LOL[/p][/quote]I think Sordell might be a lovechild of that stewardess! It's the eyes![/p][/quote]He he he, that stewardess loves me! When getting my telling off I wasn't sure if it was me or Almunia she was rollicking! The heads sore by the way! Must of been the bitter, Guinness, lager combo. Not a good mix lutondown
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6:48am Sun 3 Feb 13

Boosey says...

Ha ha! Hartlepool won 2-1 The scorers were Hartley and Poole, wonder what the odds on that were? And whilst on the subject of other teams congratulations to Granada on beating Real Madrid.
Ha ha! Hartlepool won 2-1 The scorers were Hartley and Poole, wonder what the odds on that were? And whilst on the subject of other teams congratulations to Granada on beating Real Madrid. Boosey
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7:10am Sun 3 Feb 13

mellow yellow says...

Agree totally Boosey, when it comes to keepers the best penalty stoppers always wait just that fraction more. And yes, well done Granada. Awesome result.

As for yesterday, Abdi was absolutely superb. I spent a lot of time just watching his movement. The guy has so much awareness he always knows what he's about to do BEFORE he gets the ball. A joy to watch. I thought we were excellent in patches. Bolton came to play a bit too, which helps. And well done Sordell, for practically apologising. (The penalty decision itself was a bit iffy. An old fashioned shoulder barge, and the Bolton player threw himself down after, in the words of my mate, stepping aside like a horse doing dressage).

We march on.
Agree totally Boosey, when it comes to keepers the best penalty stoppers always wait just that fraction more. And yes, well done Granada. Awesome result. As for yesterday, Abdi was absolutely superb. I spent a lot of time just watching his movement. The guy has so much awareness he always knows what he's about to do BEFORE he gets the ball. A joy to watch. I thought we were excellent in patches. Bolton came to play a bit too, which helps. And well done Sordell, for practically apologising. (The penalty decision itself was a bit iffy. An old fashioned shoulder barge, and the Bolton player threw himself down after, in the words of my mate, stepping aside like a horse doing dressage). We march on. mellow yellow
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7:32am Sun 3 Feb 13

mellow yellow says...

...and having just seen Vydra's goal it's even better than I thought yesterday. Superb turn, and bang...

Bring on Palarse.
...and having just seen Vydra's goal it's even better than I thought yesterday. Superb turn, and bang... Bring on Palarse. mellow yellow
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7:47am Sun 3 Feb 13

SAHornet says...

3Lions4Ever wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
3Lions4Ever wrote:
Hopemole wrote:
Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game
Hogg, Eustace, Murray, Yeates, etc. against Palace I suppose. Zola will need to inspire performances out of them along the lines of "show everyone you're not just second string". If he can i still think we've got a chance of taking the points.
The main problem with that midfield line-up would be Murray. Such a hot prospect last season. Should have fitted into this setup perfectly but now sadly gone to seed and needs careful but firm mentoring imo.
Tough to understand Murray's recent form I agree. Maybe not actually getting any mentoring or enough attention/guidance from Zola or other coaches at the club?
He's still a youngster and I would have thought that a proper parental or mentoring guide at home could & should have guided him away from the high-life with his mates to a much more responsible attitude towards his highly privileged life as a pro-footballer.
[quote][p][bold]3Lions4Ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]3Lions4Ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hopemole[/bold] wrote: Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game[/p][/quote]Hogg, Eustace, Murray, Yeates, etc. against Palace I suppose. Zola will need to inspire performances out of them along the lines of "show everyone you're not just second string". If he can i still think we've got a chance of taking the points.[/p][/quote]The main problem with that midfield line-up would be Murray. Such a hot prospect last season. Should have fitted into this setup perfectly but now sadly gone to seed and needs careful but firm mentoring imo.[/p][/quote]Tough to understand Murray's recent form I agree. Maybe not actually getting any mentoring or enough attention/guidance from Zola or other coaches at the club?[/p][/quote]He's still a youngster and I would have thought that a proper parental or mentoring guide at home could & should have guided him away from the high-life with his mates to a much more responsible attitude towards his highly privileged life as a pro-footballer. SAHornet
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7:49am Sun 3 Feb 13

mk6 hornet says...

In my opinion that was the toughest game we have had this season and we came through it well done boys.
In my opinion that was the toughest game we have had this season and we came through it well done boys. mk6 hornet
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7:51am Sun 3 Feb 13

SAHornet says...

WessexLad wrote:
Far from Murray "fitting into this setup perfectly", SA Hornet, I don't see where he fits in at all.

He is a winger, and needs a full back behind him to work with. There is no such position in Zola's formation: he can't play wing back, as he is not a back, but lacks the presence to operate effectively in midfield.

By all accounts, he could do a lot more to look after himself physically when out on the town. A loan to a no nonsense manager could be the making of him, though.
Agree entirely Wessex. I meant that he had the potential to fit in but has effectively blown it with his poor attitude to his profession.
[quote][p][bold]WessexLad[/bold] wrote: Far from Murray "fitting into this setup perfectly", SA Hornet, I don't see where he fits in at all. He is a winger, and needs a full back behind him to work with. There is no such position in Zola's formation: he can't play wing back, as he is not a back, but lacks the presence to operate effectively in midfield. By all accounts, he could do a lot more to look after himself physically when out on the town. A loan to a no nonsense manager could be the making of him, though.[/p][/quote]Agree entirely Wessex. I meant that he had the potential to fit in but has effectively blown it with his poor attitude to his profession. SAHornet
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7:55am Sun 3 Feb 13

SAHornet says...

Boosey wrote:
I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick.
Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved.
Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were.
So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying..... SAHornet
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8:06am Sun 3 Feb 13

Boosey says...

SAHornet wrote:
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....[/p][/quote]where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case. Boosey
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8:34am Sun 3 Feb 13

Kingswoodhornet says...

What I liked about yesterday's performance was that we ground out the result by sticking to our passing game. Last season we'd have put a big lump of a forward or a centre back up front and try to batter our way through. Yesterday we kept passing and moving our way through a very organised Bolton team. Boltons inspired substitution was to bring on the lump Davies and take off a more skill full player! Sound familiar?
I honestly thought the ref was going to keep playing and/or giving them more and more ludicrous free kicks until justice was done in his eyes and the ex prem side equalised.
A hard fought win, coming from one down to a dodgy pen, a dodgy ref and against an ex prem side makes it all the sweeter, possibly more so than rolling an oppo over by 3 or 4?
Love it. These are good times promotion or not....enjoy the game!
What I liked about yesterday's performance was that we ground out the result by sticking to our passing game. Last season we'd have put a big lump of a forward or a centre back up front and try to batter our way through. Yesterday we kept passing and moving our way through a very organised Bolton team. Boltons inspired substitution was to bring on the lump Davies and take off a more skill full player! Sound familiar? I honestly thought the ref was going to keep playing and/or giving them more and more ludicrous free kicks until justice was done in his eyes and the ex prem side equalised. A hard fought win, coming from one down to a dodgy pen, a dodgy ref and against an ex prem side makes it all the sweeter, possibly more so than rolling an oppo over by 3 or 4? Love it. These are good times promotion or not....enjoy the game! Kingswoodhornet
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8:48am Sun 3 Feb 13

Watfordwes says...

Boosey wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.
There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes.

You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....[/p][/quote]where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.[/p][/quote]There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late Watfordwes
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9:29am Sun 3 Feb 13

Boosey says...

Watfordwes wrote:
Boosey wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.
There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late
What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick?
I would back my method against any other.
Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.
[quote][p][bold]Watfordwes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....[/p][/quote]where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.[/p][/quote]There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late[/p][/quote]What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick? I would back my method against any other. Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you. Boosey
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10:09am Sun 3 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Boosey wrote:
Watfordwes wrote:
Boosey wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.
There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late
What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick?
I would back my method against any other.
Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.
But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol
Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad!
Ha ha
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Watfordwes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....[/p][/quote]where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.[/p][/quote]There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late[/p][/quote]What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick? I would back my method against any other. Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.[/p][/quote]But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad! Ha ha lutondown
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10:13am Sun 3 Feb 13

Kingswoodhornet says...

lutondown wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Watfordwes wrote:
Boosey wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.
There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late
What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick?
I would back my method against any other.
Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.
But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol
Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad!
Ha ha
Looks like the halftime penalty shoot outs all sorted for a future home game then. :)
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Watfordwes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....[/p][/quote]where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.[/p][/quote]There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late[/p][/quote]What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick? I would back my method against any other. Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.[/p][/quote]But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad! Ha ha[/p][/quote]Looks like the halftime penalty shoot outs all sorted for a future home game then. :) Kingswoodhornet
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10:30am Sun 3 Feb 13

Boosey says...

Kingswoodhornet wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Watfordwes wrote:
Boosey wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.
There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late
What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick? I would back my method against any other. Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.
But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad! Ha ha
Looks like the halftime penalty shoot outs all sorted for a future home game then. :)
The shoots outs at half time did cross my mind.
[quote][p][bold]Kingswoodhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Watfordwes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....[/p][/quote]where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.[/p][/quote]There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late[/p][/quote]What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick? I would back my method against any other. Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.[/p][/quote]But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad! Ha ha[/p][/quote]Looks like the halftime penalty shoot outs all sorted for a future home game then. :)[/p][/quote]The shoots outs at half time did cross my mind. Boosey
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10:36am Sun 3 Feb 13

Boosey says...

lutondown wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Watfordwes wrote:
Boosey wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.
There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late
What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick? I would back my method against any other. Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.
But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad! Ha ha
You sat down with a pint, I turned away and a second later I turn back round and it's on the floor. LOL Didn't take you long to drink half of mine did it?
Every home game old matey comes up from Brighton, that's dedication.
I'm going to ask my boss for a pay rise because I need to kick the ball harder.
What a load of cods!
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Watfordwes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....[/p][/quote]where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.[/p][/quote]There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late[/p][/quote]What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick? I would back my method against any other. Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.[/p][/quote]But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad! Ha ha[/p][/quote]You sat down with a pint, I turned away and a second later I turn back round and it's on the floor. LOL Didn't take you long to drink half of mine did it? Every home game old matey comes up from Brighton, that's dedication. I'm going to ask my boss for a pay rise because I need to kick the ball harder. What a load of cods! Boosey
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11:17am Sun 3 Feb 13

Bush Hornet says...

Kingswoodhornet wrote:
What I liked about yesterday's performance was that we ground out the result by sticking to our passing game. Last season we'd have put a big lump of a forward or a centre back up front and try to batter our way through. Yesterday we kept passing and moving our way through a very organised Bolton team. Boltons inspired substitution was to bring on the lump Davies and take off a more skill full player! Sound familiar?
I honestly thought the ref was going to keep playing and/or giving them more and more ludicrous free kicks until justice was done in his eyes and the ex prem side equalised.
A hard fought win, coming from one down to a dodgy pen, a dodgy ref and against an ex prem side makes it all the sweeter, possibly more so than rolling an oppo over by 3 or 4?
Love it. These are good times promotion or not....enjoy the game!
Totally agree Kingswood. And we could've gone 3-1 up if the ref hadn't stopped play for no reason when Deeney was about to pull the trigger. Once we went ahead Bolton offered v little and I was impressed with how we didn't panic and ground it out.

Abdi, Doyley, Vydra, Deeney all superb. Didn't think anyone had a bad game. But I do think Almunia should drink more the night before. It's a well known fact that if you're hungover the ball may just hit you if you don't move.
[quote][p][bold]Kingswoodhornet[/bold] wrote: What I liked about yesterday's performance was that we ground out the result by sticking to our passing game. Last season we'd have put a big lump of a forward or a centre back up front and try to batter our way through. Yesterday we kept passing and moving our way through a very organised Bolton team. Boltons inspired substitution was to bring on the lump Davies and take off a more skill full player! Sound familiar? I honestly thought the ref was going to keep playing and/or giving them more and more ludicrous free kicks until justice was done in his eyes and the ex prem side equalised. A hard fought win, coming from one down to a dodgy pen, a dodgy ref and against an ex prem side makes it all the sweeter, possibly more so than rolling an oppo over by 3 or 4? Love it. These are good times promotion or not....enjoy the game![/p][/quote]Totally agree Kingswood. And we could've gone 3-1 up if the ref hadn't stopped play for no reason when Deeney was about to pull the trigger. Once we went ahead Bolton offered v little and I was impressed with how we didn't panic and ground it out. Abdi, Doyley, Vydra, Deeney all superb. Didn't think anyone had a bad game. But I do think Almunia should drink more the night before. It's a well known fact that if you're hungover the ball may just hit you if you don't move. Bush Hornet
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11:17am Sun 3 Feb 13

Berko Horn says...

A very good win, but two points about the game.

1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring
2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction.

Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night. Berko Horn
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11:41am Sun 3 Feb 13

buckler says...

Boosey wrote:
I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick.
Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved.
Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were.
So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
I played in a team where our centre back and local hard man/ bouncer used to threaten the penalty taker! The same tactic was used at corners. Worked a treat!
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]I played in a team where our centre back and local hard man/ bouncer used to threaten the penalty taker! The same tactic was used at corners. Worked a treat! buckler
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12:44pm Sun 3 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Boosey wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Watfordwes wrote:
Boosey wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.
There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late
What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick? I would back my method against any other. Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.
But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad! Ha ha
You sat down with a pint, I turned away and a second later I turn back round and it's on the floor. LOL Didn't take you long to drink half of mine did it?
Every home game old matey comes up from Brighton, that's dedication.
I'm going to ask my boss for a pay rise because I need to kick the ball harder.
What a load of cods!
Yep mungonutney and Chris don't mention his bottom both travel 50 odd mile each. Every game an away game!
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Watfordwes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....[/p][/quote]where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.[/p][/quote]There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late[/p][/quote]What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick? I would back my method against any other. Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.[/p][/quote]But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad! Ha ha[/p][/quote]You sat down with a pint, I turned away and a second later I turn back round and it's on the floor. LOL Didn't take you long to drink half of mine did it? Every home game old matey comes up from Brighton, that's dedication. I'm going to ask my boss for a pay rise because I need to kick the ball harder. What a load of cods![/p][/quote]Yep mungonutney and Chris don't mention his bottom both travel 50 odd mile each. Every game an away game! lutondown
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12:47pm Sun 3 Feb 13

SAHornet says...

Berko Horn wrote:
A very good win, but two points about the game.

1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring
2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction.

Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
John Marks & Derek Payne were horrified that the ref gave a penalty. Marks said he had simply stood his ground and the man went down
[quote][p][bold]Berko Horn[/bold] wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.[/p][/quote]John Marks & Derek Payne were horrified that the ref gave a penalty. Marks said he had simply stood his ground and the man went down SAHornet
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12:51pm Sun 3 Feb 13

gilesy97 says...

Berko Horn wrote:
A very good win, but two points about the game.

1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring
2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction.

Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
I asked referee Steve Bennet this a year or so back .He said obstruction , ie an indirect free-kick is only given if no contact is made. If there's contact its no longer obstruction , just a foul..ie direct. Not sure the law changed , just the interpretation of it from FIFA ( ie there are interpretation notes for each Law given to referees). Yesterdays decision , therefore was rightly a penalty.
[quote][p][bold]Berko Horn[/bold] wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.[/p][/quote]I asked referee Steve Bennet this a year or so back .He said obstruction , ie an indirect free-kick is only given if no contact is made. If there's contact its no longer obstruction , just a foul..ie direct. Not sure the law changed , just the interpretation of it from FIFA ( ie there are interpretation notes for each Law given to referees). Yesterdays decision , therefore was rightly a penalty. gilesy97
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1:06pm Sun 3 Feb 13

DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian says...

Berko Horn wrote:
A very good win, but two points about the game.

1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring
2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction.

Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
It was definitely a missed flick from Vydra, but good reactions to get on with it and run into the space.
[quote][p][bold]Berko Horn[/bold] wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.[/p][/quote]It was definitely a missed flick from Vydra, but good reactions to get on with it and run into the space. DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian
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1:46pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Boosey says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
Kingswoodhornet wrote: What I liked about yesterday's performance was that we ground out the result by sticking to our passing game. Last season we'd have put a big lump of a forward or a centre back up front and try to batter our way through. Yesterday we kept passing and moving our way through a very organised Bolton team. Boltons inspired substitution was to bring on the lump Davies and take off a more skill full player! Sound familiar? I honestly thought the ref was going to keep playing and/or giving them more and more ludicrous free kicks until justice was done in his eyes and the ex prem side equalised. A hard fought win, coming from one down to a dodgy pen, a dodgy ref and against an ex prem side makes it all the sweeter, possibly more so than rolling an oppo over by 3 or 4? Love it. These are good times promotion or not....enjoy the game!
Totally agree Kingswood. And we could've gone 3-1 up if the ref hadn't stopped play for no reason when Deeney was about to pull the trigger. Once we went ahead Bolton offered v little and I was impressed with how we didn't panic and ground it out. Abdi, Doyley, Vydra, Deeney all superb. Didn't think anyone had a bad game. But I do think Almunia should drink more the night before. It's a well known fact that if you're hungover the ball may just hit you if you don't move.
If you watch Almunia facing that penalty yesterday you will see if he didn't move he would have saved it.
Where in my comments does it state I was hungover? Smart ar5e
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kingswoodhornet[/bold] wrote: What I liked about yesterday's performance was that we ground out the result by sticking to our passing game. Last season we'd have put a big lump of a forward or a centre back up front and try to batter our way through. Yesterday we kept passing and moving our way through a very organised Bolton team. Boltons inspired substitution was to bring on the lump Davies and take off a more skill full player! Sound familiar? I honestly thought the ref was going to keep playing and/or giving them more and more ludicrous free kicks until justice was done in his eyes and the ex prem side equalised. A hard fought win, coming from one down to a dodgy pen, a dodgy ref and against an ex prem side makes it all the sweeter, possibly more so than rolling an oppo over by 3 or 4? Love it. These are good times promotion or not....enjoy the game![/p][/quote]Totally agree Kingswood. And we could've gone 3-1 up if the ref hadn't stopped play for no reason when Deeney was about to pull the trigger. Once we went ahead Bolton offered v little and I was impressed with how we didn't panic and ground it out. Abdi, Doyley, Vydra, Deeney all superb. Didn't think anyone had a bad game. But I do think Almunia should drink more the night before. It's a well known fact that if you're hungover the ball may just hit you if you don't move.[/p][/quote]If you watch Almunia facing that penalty yesterday you will see if he didn't move he would have saved it. Where in my comments does it state I was hungover? Smart ar5e Boosey
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1:50pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Boosey says...

buckler wrote:
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
I played in a team where our centre back and local hard man/ bouncer used to threaten the penalty taker! The same tactic was used at corners. Worked a treat!
Sounds like the Bull and Tiger Borehamwood from years ago.
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]I played in a team where our centre back and local hard man/ bouncer used to threaten the penalty taker! The same tactic was used at corners. Worked a treat![/p][/quote]Sounds like the Bull and Tiger Borehamwood from years ago. Boosey
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1:53pm Sun 3 Feb 13

CARDIFFHORN says...

Berko Horn wrote:
A very good win, but two points about the game.

1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring
2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction.

Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
Totally agree with point 1.
Point 2 harsh but penalties given for less and worse not given.

Now having watched highlights penalty should of been retaken as BW No 3 nearly level with Sordell when he hit it.

Was TD in an
offside position when AA scored?
[quote][p][bold]Berko Horn[/bold] wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with point 1. Point 2 harsh but penalties given for less and worse not given. Now having watched highlights penalty should of been retaken as BW No 3 nearly level with Sordell when he hit it. Was TD in an offside position when AA scored? CARDIFFHORN
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2:14pm Sun 3 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Boosey wrote:
buckler wrote:
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
I played in a team where our centre back and local hard man/ bouncer used to threaten the penalty taker! The same tactic was used at corners. Worked a treat!
Sounds like the Bull and Tiger Borehamwood from years ago.
Only they had eleven hard man and an even harder man on the bench!
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]I played in a team where our centre back and local hard man/ bouncer used to threaten the penalty taker! The same tactic was used at corners. Worked a treat![/p][/quote]Sounds like the Bull and Tiger Borehamwood from years ago.[/p][/quote]Only they had eleven hard man and an even harder man on the bench! lutondown
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2:53pm Sun 3 Feb 13

exeterhornet says...

Just got back so have spent the last hour reading the above etc. Here are my honeyed words of wisdom, for what it's worth.
1) Scoredell, you really are a deluded retard if you believe your match opinion.
2) The referee was truly appalling. Suffers from what I call "small man syndrome" - ie, probably hen pecked at home by a huge fat wife who never lets him win an argument so strolls around the pitch playing the big time Charlie. Well you idiot, I do not pay money to watch you, and you really spoilt my afternoon.
3) Enjoyed the game as a whole and thought Bolton contributed greatly to the entertainment. People's expectations are changing - last year that would have been hailed as an excellent performance. But, of course, we know the capabilities of this team and expect more. I think (an I am just as guilty) we are becoming too expectant because of the numerous excellent performances to date.
4) AT TIMES, I thought we were sublime again but also, at times, gave away posession too cheaply. Over the ninety minutes, I was thoroughly entertained despite the efforts of the idiot in black, and thought the result was thoroughly deserved.
5) Think the Bristol tinkering and result probably cost us 500 or so off the gate (we are still fickle) and hope that despite the cameras, with 2000 Palace and kids a quid , we get well over 15000 on Friday.
Great times!
Just got back so have spent the last hour reading the above etc. Here are my honeyed words of wisdom, for what it's worth. 1) Scoredell, you really are a deluded retard if you believe your match opinion. 2) The referee was truly appalling. Suffers from what I call "small man syndrome" - ie, probably hen pecked at home by a huge fat wife who never lets him win an argument so strolls around the pitch playing the big time Charlie. Well you idiot, I do not pay money to watch you, and you really spoilt my afternoon. 3) Enjoyed the game as a whole and thought Bolton contributed greatly to the entertainment. People's expectations are changing - last year that would have been hailed as an excellent performance. But, of course, we know the capabilities of this team and expect more. I think (an I am just as guilty) we are becoming too expectant because of the numerous excellent performances to date. 4) AT TIMES, I thought we were sublime again but also, at times, gave away posession too cheaply. Over the ninety minutes, I was thoroughly entertained despite the efforts of the idiot in black, and thought the result was thoroughly deserved. 5) Think the Bristol tinkering and result probably cost us 500 or so off the gate (we are still fickle) and hope that despite the cameras, with 2000 Palace and kids a quid , we get well over 15000 on Friday. Great times! exeterhornet
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4:41pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Bush Hornet says...

Boosey wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote:
Kingswoodhornet wrote: What I liked about yesterday's performance was that we ground out the result by sticking to our passing game. Last season we'd have put a big lump of a forward or a centre back up front and try to batter our way through. Yesterday we kept passing and moving our way through a very organised Bolton team. Boltons inspired substitution was to bring on the lump Davies and take off a more skill full player! Sound familiar? I honestly thought the ref was going to keep playing and/or giving them more and more ludicrous free kicks until justice was done in his eyes and the ex prem side equalised. A hard fought win, coming from one down to a dodgy pen, a dodgy ref and against an ex prem side makes it all the sweeter, possibly more so than rolling an oppo over by 3 or 4? Love it. These are good times promotion or not....enjoy the game!
Totally agree Kingswood. And we could've gone 3-1 up if the ref hadn't stopped play for no reason when Deeney was about to pull the trigger. Once we went ahead Bolton offered v little and I was impressed with how we didn't panic and ground it out. Abdi, Doyley, Vydra, Deeney all superb. Didn't think anyone had a bad game. But I do think Almunia should drink more the night before. It's a well known fact that if you're hungover the ball may just hit you if you don't move.
If you watch Almunia facing that penalty yesterday you will see if he didn't move he would have saved it.
Where in my comments does it state I was hungover? Smart ar5e
calm down pal. I never suggested you would be hungover. I'm guessing hair of the dog
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kingswoodhornet[/bold] wrote: What I liked about yesterday's performance was that we ground out the result by sticking to our passing game. Last season we'd have put a big lump of a forward or a centre back up front and try to batter our way through. Yesterday we kept passing and moving our way through a very organised Bolton team. Boltons inspired substitution was to bring on the lump Davies and take off a more skill full player! Sound familiar? I honestly thought the ref was going to keep playing and/or giving them more and more ludicrous free kicks until justice was done in his eyes and the ex prem side equalised. A hard fought win, coming from one down to a dodgy pen, a dodgy ref and against an ex prem side makes it all the sweeter, possibly more so than rolling an oppo over by 3 or 4? Love it. These are good times promotion or not....enjoy the game![/p][/quote]Totally agree Kingswood. And we could've gone 3-1 up if the ref hadn't stopped play for no reason when Deeney was about to pull the trigger. Once we went ahead Bolton offered v little and I was impressed with how we didn't panic and ground it out. Abdi, Doyley, Vydra, Deeney all superb. Didn't think anyone had a bad game. But I do think Almunia should drink more the night before. It's a well known fact that if you're hungover the ball may just hit you if you don't move.[/p][/quote]If you watch Almunia facing that penalty yesterday you will see if he didn't move he would have saved it. Where in my comments does it state I was hungover? Smart ar5e[/p][/quote]calm down pal. I never suggested you would be hungover. I'm guessing hair of the dog Bush Hornet
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5:34pm Sun 3 Feb 13

tommy gunn says...

As someone has already commented,has the ref. ever heard of encroachment,Bolton'
s no. 3 was almost behind Sordell when he struck the ball for the penalty kick.Should have been retaken.Poor ref to miss this.
As someone has already commented,has the ref. ever heard of encroachment,Bolton' s no. 3 was almost behind Sordell when he struck the ball for the penalty kick.Should have been retaken.Poor ref to miss this. tommy gunn
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5:58pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Mangoputney says...

tommy gunn wrote:
As someone has already commented,has the ref. ever heard of encroachment,Bolton'

s no. 3 was almost behind Sordell when he struck the ball for the penalty kick.Should have been retaken.Poor ref to miss this.
And when he rightly played advantage to Bolton who nearly scored but he decided to give them a free kick anyway! Ludicrous!
[quote][p][bold]tommy gunn[/bold] wrote: As someone has already commented,has the ref. ever heard of encroachment,Bolton' s no. 3 was almost behind Sordell when he struck the ball for the penalty kick.Should have been retaken.Poor ref to miss this.[/p][/quote]And when he rightly played advantage to Bolton who nearly scored but he decided to give them a free kick anyway! Ludicrous! Mangoputney
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6:20pm Sun 3 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Mangoputney wrote:
tommy gunn wrote:
As someone has already commented,has the ref. ever heard of encroachment,Bolton'


s no. 3 was almost behind Sordell when he struck the ball for the penalty kick.Should have been retaken.Poor ref to miss this.
And when he rightly played advantage to Bolton who nearly scored but he decided to give them a free kick anyway! Ludicrous!
Agreed he was a complete tool.
[quote][p][bold]Mangoputney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tommy gunn[/bold] wrote: As someone has already commented,has the ref. ever heard of encroachment,Bolton' s no. 3 was almost behind Sordell when he struck the ball for the penalty kick.Should have been retaken.Poor ref to miss this.[/p][/quote]And when he rightly played advantage to Bolton who nearly scored but he decided to give them a free kick anyway! Ludicrous![/p][/quote]Agreed he was a complete tool. lutondown
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7:40pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Vet_kills_puppy says...

And there was me thinking the Vydra goal was an absolutely sublime dummy. Still, what do I know eh?
(VKP making the effort to post after a win...)
:-)
And there was me thinking the Vydra goal was an absolutely sublime dummy. Still, what do I know eh? (VKP making the effort to post after a win...) :-) Vet_kills_puppy
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8:10pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Vet_kills_puppy says...

lutondown wrote:
Boosey wrote:
I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick.
Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved.
Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were.
So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
You didn't save them, your boozed up body happened to fall the right Way!

Interesting note, yet again 75 posts when we win to the 140 odd when we lose!
We really are a glass half empty lot.
Talking of glasses, mine was filled one too many times yesterday.
About 114 posts now LD...
Chin chin!!!
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.[/p][/quote]You didn't save them, your boozed up body happened to fall the right Way! Interesting note, yet again 75 posts when we win to the 140 odd when we lose! We really are a glass half empty lot. Talking of glasses, mine was filled one too many times yesterday.[/p][/quote]About 114 posts now LD... Chin chin!!! Vet_kills_puppy
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10:48pm Sun 3 Feb 13

londomollari says...

Just posting this to up the number.
115
Just posting this to up the number. 115 londomollari
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10:54pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Hampshire hornet says...

Did we win? This will be my final post on this subject then..

Zola out
Did we win? This will be my final post on this subject then.. Zola out Hampshire hornet
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11:20pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Vet_kills_puppy says...

The number of changes made was nothing short of a scandal...
The number of changes made was nothing short of a scandal... Vet_kills_puppy
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4:37am Mon 4 Feb 13

Boosey says...

CARDIFFHORN wrote:
Berko Horn wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
Totally agree with point 1. Point 2 harsh but penalties given for less and worse not given. Now having watched highlights penalty should of been retaken as BW No 3 nearly level with Sordell when he hit it. Was TD in an offside position when AA scored?
I watched it again and that's what I thought. Deeney involved in play by being in the goalkeepers line of vision in an offside position, think we were lucky on that one.
[quote][p][bold]CARDIFFHORN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Berko Horn[/bold] wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with point 1. Point 2 harsh but penalties given for less and worse not given. Now having watched highlights penalty should of been retaken as BW No 3 nearly level with Sordell when he hit it. Was TD in an offside position when AA scored?[/p][/quote]I watched it again and that's what I thought. Deeney involved in play by being in the goalkeepers line of vision in an offside position, think we were lucky on that one. Boosey
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10:05am Mon 4 Feb 13

Harry's Bar says...

mimiperena wrote:
sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
Blackburn.
[quote][p][bold]mimiperena[/bold] wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????[/p][/quote]Blackburn. Harry's Bar
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10:12am Mon 4 Feb 13

Harry's Bar says...

Boosey wrote:
CARDIFFHORN wrote:
Berko Horn wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
Totally agree with point 1. Point 2 harsh but penalties given for less and worse not given. Now having watched highlights penalty should of been retaken as BW No 3 nearly level with Sordell when he hit it. Was TD in an offside position when AA scored?
I watched it again and that's what I thought. Deeney involved in play by being in the goalkeepers line of vision in an offside position, think we were lucky on that one.
Yes, what was Deeney doing, it was like he had completely switched off.
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CARDIFFHORN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Berko Horn[/bold] wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with point 1. Point 2 harsh but penalties given for less and worse not given. Now having watched highlights penalty should of been retaken as BW No 3 nearly level with Sordell when he hit it. Was TD in an offside position when AA scored?[/p][/quote]I watched it again and that's what I thought. Deeney involved in play by being in the goalkeepers line of vision in an offside position, think we were lucky on that one.[/p][/quote]Yes, what was Deeney doing, it was like he had completely switched off. Harry's Bar
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12:35pm Mon 4 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Harry's Bar wrote:
mimiperena wrote:
sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
Blackburn.
Watford
[quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mimiperena[/bold] wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????[/p][/quote]Blackburn.[/p][/quote]Watford lutondown
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12:41pm Mon 4 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Harry's Bar wrote:
Boosey wrote:
CARDIFFHORN wrote:
Berko Horn wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
Totally agree with point 1. Point 2 harsh but penalties given for less and worse not given. Now having watched highlights penalty should of been retaken as BW No 3 nearly level with Sordell when he hit it. Was TD in an offside position when AA scored?
I watched it again and that's what I thought. Deeney involved in play by being in the goalkeepers line of vision in an offside position, think we were lucky on that one.
Yes, what was Deeney doing, it was like he had completely switched off.
Moving on, we'll take that it's the only thing the ref gave us.
[quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CARDIFFHORN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Berko Horn[/bold] wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with point 1. Point 2 harsh but penalties given for less and worse not given. Now having watched highlights penalty should of been retaken as BW No 3 nearly level with Sordell when he hit it. Was TD in an offside position when AA scored?[/p][/quote]I watched it again and that's what I thought. Deeney involved in play by being in the goalkeepers line of vision in an offside position, think we were lucky on that one.[/p][/quote]Yes, what was Deeney doing, it was like he had completely switched off.[/p][/quote]Moving on, we'll take that it's the only thing the ref gave us. lutondown
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12:51pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Harry's Bar says...

lutondown wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
mimiperena wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
Blackburn.
Watford
Have we timed our run too early, might we run out of steam, fizzle out in the run in like Cardiff did last season?
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mimiperena[/bold] wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????[/p][/quote]Blackburn.[/p][/quote]Watford[/p][/quote]Have we timed our run too early, might we run out of steam, fizzle out in the run in like Cardiff did last season? Harry's Bar
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1:00pm Mon 4 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Harry's Bar wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
mimiperena wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
Blackburn.
Watford
Have we timed our run too early, might we run out of steam, fizzle out in the run in like Cardiff did last season?
That's pessimistic Harry, I think we would have racked more points if the squad had come together earlier than they did. I'd rather be where we are than sitting mid table hoping that a late run might happen.
[quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mimiperena[/bold] wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????[/p][/quote]Blackburn.[/p][/quote]Watford[/p][/quote]Have we timed our run too early, might we run out of steam, fizzle out in the run in like Cardiff did last season?[/p][/quote]That's pessimistic Harry, I think we would have racked more points if the squad had come together earlier than they did. I'd rather be where we are than sitting mid table hoping that a late run might happen. lutondown
  • Score: 0

1:49pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Harry's Bar says...

lutondown wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
mimiperena wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
Blackburn.
Watford
Have we timed our run too early, might we run out of steam, fizzle out in the run in like Cardiff did last season?
That's pessimistic Harry, I think we would have racked more points if the squad had come together earlier than they did. I'd rather be where we are than sitting mid table hoping that a late run might happen.
We have faded in the run in for the last 2 seasons but I actually don't think that will happen this time. The squad is so much stronger this season.
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mimiperena[/bold] wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????[/p][/quote]Blackburn.[/p][/quote]Watford[/p][/quote]Have we timed our run too early, might we run out of steam, fizzle out in the run in like Cardiff did last season?[/p][/quote]That's pessimistic Harry, I think we would have racked more points if the squad had come together earlier than they did. I'd rather be where we are than sitting mid table hoping that a late run might happen.[/p][/quote]We have faded in the run in for the last 2 seasons but I actually don't think that will happen this time. The squad is so much stronger this season. Harry's Bar
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1:59pm Mon 4 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Harry's Bar wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
mimiperena wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
Blackburn.
Watford
Have we timed our run too early, might we run out of steam, fizzle out in the run in like Cardiff did last season?
That's pessimistic Harry, I think we would have racked more points if the squad had come together earlier than they did. I'd rather be where we are than sitting mid table hoping that a late run might happen.
We have faded in the run in for the last 2 seasons but I actually don't think that will happen this time. The squad is so much stronger this season.
Two different set ups mate. Chalk and cheese really
[quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mimiperena[/bold] wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????[/p][/quote]Blackburn.[/p][/quote]Watford[/p][/quote]Have we timed our run too early, might we run out of steam, fizzle out in the run in like Cardiff did last season?[/p][/quote]That's pessimistic Harry, I think we would have racked more points if the squad had come together earlier than they did. I'd rather be where we are than sitting mid table hoping that a late run might happen.[/p][/quote]We have faded in the run in for the last 2 seasons but I actually don't think that will happen this time. The squad is so much stronger this season.[/p][/quote]Two different set ups mate. Chalk and cheese really lutondown
  • Score: 0

2:59pm Wed 6 Feb 13

JonBoy says...

I think we're still improving
I think we're still improving JonBoy
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