Promotion-challenging Watford return to winning ways (From Watford Observer)
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Goals from Matej Vydra and Almen Abdi fire Watford to Bolton Wanderers win
5:04pm Saturday 2nd February 2013 in Sport By Anthony Matthews, Group Sports Editor
Promotion-challenging Watford return to winning ways
Watford got their promotion push back on track after their unexpected midweek setback at Bristol City by coming from behind to beat Bolton Wanderers 2-1 at Vicarage Road.
After Troy Deeney had missed an early chance to give the hosts the lead, it was the visitors who made the breakthrough when former Hornets striker Marvin Sordell converted a penalty after Daniel Pudil had fouled Sam Ricketts in the area.
Bolton’s lead was to last just four minutes though, and once against it was Matej Vydra who was on the scoresheet with his 19th of the season after beating Adam Bodgan inside his near post.
What proved to be the decisive moment came with 20 minutes remaining when a neat cross-field build-up involving Nathaniel Chalobah, Almen Abdi and Vydra ended with the Swiss midfielder slotting home his seventh of the campaign.
While Watford were not at their free-flowing best and had to grind this win out to a degree, it was a decent performance and kept the Hornets fourth in the table, moving them back to within a point of second.
Like he did for the surprise 2-0 Tuesday night reverse, Gianfranco Zola made six changes but the side he selected to face the Trotters had a much more familiar look to it.
Lloyd Doyley, Marco Cassetti, Cristian Battocchio, Chalobah, Deeney and Vydra were all back in the starting line-up, with Jonathan Hogg, John Eustace, Sean Murray, Nyron Nosworthy, Fernando Forestieri and Alex Geijo dropping to the bench.
By contrast, Dougie Freedman made just the one change to the team which suffered a late 2-1 home defeat to Everton in the FA Cup and that was in goal, with Bogdan replacing Andy Lonergan. That meant Sordell kept his place in attack and faced the club who he left a year ago to move to the Reebok Stadium, while another Vicarage Road old boy, Chris Eagles, was also in the team.
The opening exchanges were fairly equal and it was the visitors, playing a 4-2-3-1 formation, who had the first effort in the fifth minute when Darren Pratley harmlessly fired over from 20 yards.
Zola’s men though, were careless at times early on, conceding possession and making some questionable decisions but they had the first clear opening in the 11th minute when Chalobah found Vydra in space just inside the Bolton half and he played a superb pass to release Deeney to his right. Watford’s 12-goal striker had time to compose himself and pick his spot but he finished up shooting straight at Bogdan and the visitors were able to clear their lines.
Marcos Alonso had an off-target effort blocked at the other end and then Pudil got in a timely interception as Chung-Young Lee was almost set free on the edge of the area. The next opening also fell Bolton’s way in the 19th minute but Eagles hit a half-volley on the turn over from around 12 yards.
The match continued to simmer without really sparking into life, although the hosts were enjoying more controlled possession as the halfway point of the opening period passed but not in too many areas where they could hurt their opponents.
That could have changed in the 26th minute when Deeney did well to get away from Tim Ream down the right before his over-hit cross was well controlled by Pudil. He laid the ball off to Chalobah, who tried to catch Bogdan out with a lob from the left side of the area and his effort across goal was not too far off target.
Next Battocchio fired wide of Bogdan’s left-hand post from 25 yards after being picked up an Abdi pass but in the 32nd minute the visitors made the breakthrough.
Pudil seemed to have few complaints after he was adjudged to have tripped Ricketts towards the left side of the area and Sordell marked his return to Vicarage Road by sending Manuel Almunia the wrong way from 12 yards, although there was to be no celebration from the England Under-21 striker after making it 1-0.
Almunia soon had to be on his guard again to hold an Alonso free-kick from 25 yards after Hall had fouled Sordell, but Bolton’s lead was to be short-lived thanks to Watford’s ace marksman.
Chalobah started the meaningful part of the 36th-minute move when he found Cassetti, who laid it forward to Vydra. The striker initially looked to flick it around the corner with outside of his boot but the movement deceived Ream and Vydra spun away to latch on to the ball, driving it past Bogdan and inside his near post to make it 11 in his last six starts to level things up at 1-1.
Following the equaliser, Deeney saw a shot deflected wide and from the resultant corner which was flicked on by Cassetti, Hall volleyed over the top as the opening half finished all-square.
Watford began the second half with Deeney attempting to slide in his strike partner inside the opening 30 seconds but Bogdan was alert to the danger and raced off his line to smother.
But it was the visitors who had the first shot after the break, with Spearing hitting a left-footed drive which Almunia had to dive full length to divert away from near his right-hand post.
The Hornets soon had a gone chance of their own though, with Pudil laying the ball into Vydra, who dummied it for Deeney and he set it back to Abdi, whose goal-bound shot was deflected wide.
The hosts continued to up the ante but it was Bolton who went closest to taking the lead for a second time in the 59th minute when a Sordell snap-shot from the left side of the area rebounded away off the outside of Almunia’s right-hand upright.
Within seconds though, a fine pass found Vydra in the area but just as he looked set to lift the ball beyond the onrushing Bogdan, Reach got back to clear with an excellent challenge.
Cassetti and Pratley were both booked in the 66th minute following an off-the-ball tussle as territory and possession swung back in Bolton’s favour for a spell. But four minutes later Watford were in front.
The Hornets broke from their own half, working from right to left as Chalobah fed Abdi who in turn laid the ball off to the Czech international on the left side of the area. Watford’s top scorer weighed up his options before passing back to Abdi, who took a touch before slotting the ball beyond Bogdan and into the far corner to make it 2-1 with his seventh of the campign.
The scorer’s next involvement was to be booked for dissent but Spearing was soon to join him following a foul on Vydra.
While the striker was being treated, Freedman went for broke, making a triple change as Steve De Ridder, Craig Davies and Kebin Davies came on for Eagles, Josh Vela and Sordell.
No sooner had they come on though, than Watford weren’t too far away from adding a third when, after Pudil had been caught in the face, Deeney sprinted across the area to get to the ball ahead of Bogdan. The Hornets striker then stood up a cross to the back post where Vydra rose impressively but he was unable to direct his header back down and on target.
Zola made his first change in the 78th minute, bringing on Nosworthy for Ekstrand, who appeared to have picked up a knock. But the hosts then started to sit back a little too much, allowing Craig Davies the opportunity to have a couple of shots, one from a free-kick from the edge of the area.
Chalobah made way for Hogg with six minutes remaining and then Ricketts picked up the game’s fifth yellow card for a foul on Vydra.
The Hornets might have netted a third in injury time when, after forcing three successive corners in trying to run down the block, Bolton lost the ball and Vydra teed up Abdi, but he fired over.
De Ridder was then cautioned for a foul on Pudil before Eustace came on for Battocchio but the Hornets safely negotiated what turned out to be six-and-a-half minutes of injury time to secure another three points.
Watford: Almunia; Doyley, Hall, Ekstrand (Nosworthy 78); Cassetti, Battocchio (Eustace 90), Chalobah (Hall 84), Abdi, Pudil; Deeney, Vydra. Not used: Murray, Bond, Forestieri and Geijo.
Bolton Wanderers: Bogdan; Ricketts, Knight, Ream, Alonso; Vela (C Davies 76), Spearing; Lee, Pratley, Eagles (De Ridder 76); Sordell (K Davies 76). Not used: N’Gog, Wylde, Dawson and Lonergan.
Bookings: Pratley (66); Cassetti (66); Abdi (73); Spearing (75); Ricketts (88); De Ridder (90).
Attendance: 13,223 (787 away).
Referee: James Adcock.
Comments(97)
Hornet Cornet
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5:25pm Sat 2 Feb 13
CARDIFFHORN
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5:38pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Hornet Cornet wrote:Can't see that happening.
hope that leicester and the mcpies mess up and we go up as champions.
Hopemole
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5:41pm Sat 2 Feb 13
The Rover
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5:42pm Sat 2 Feb 13
mimiperena
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5:48pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Its really is going to be tight between us and Leicester so no more messing with a winning team please Mr Zola.
On another positive 52 points always avoids relegation !!!!!!
Prpwfc
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5:52pm Sat 2 Feb 13
peter10531089
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5:54pm Sat 2 Feb 13
mimiperena
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5:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Bush Hornet
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6:01pm Sat 2 Feb 13
The Rover
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6:03pm Sat 2 Feb 13
mimiperena wrote:Cardiff will win the league, with Watford as runners up. Last Play-Off place will go to Burnley.
sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
Bristol City and Peterborough will be relegated. Third team to get relegated is a tough call. Could be Birmingham if they go into administration and get a points deduction.
True watford fan
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6:07pm Sat 2 Feb 13
mimiperena
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6:13pm Sat 2 Feb 13
CARDIFFHORN
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6:21pm Sat 2 Feb 13
mimiperena wrote:Boro are getting caught up in the stick or twist cup scenario.
sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
AMP4WATFORD4EVER
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6:22pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Mark-H
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6:39pm Sat 2 Feb 13
a1derek
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6:40pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week.
Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.
Eastsussexhornet
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6:57pm Sat 2 Feb 13
a1derek wrote:Yes, we were fortunate to win this but it's a good sign if we can win games like that. It is a reflection of the professionalism and the cohesiveness of the team. So it may be a good idea to keep that team from now on.
To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again.
Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week.
Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.
bigthunder
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7:03pm Sat 2 Feb 13
started slowley , another reason why you should never make so many changes as takes a while to get going , fortunatley today changes involved players coming in who have played regulalrly so only took 30 mins or so to get going , but zola do not want to see a repeat of Tuesday again this season , today proved your best players need to play if we have hope of top 2 finish
well done all though good result , just hope we can still get Vydra & elkstand on pitch friday after international games though we will need them
well done also to doyley and Deeney unsung hero's in my book , by the way what is happeneing re deeney new contract anyone !! needs sorting quick
BigRussMalta
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7:06pm Sat 2 Feb 13
U Orns!!!
stevemag
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7:21pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Abdi for me is probably the one with thirst football brain. Challobah outstanding for someone just 18.
As for the ref, what a joke. He completely lost control at various points and seemed to give every decision to the opposition. He looked very young , why do we always get them at the vic !!?
stevemag
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7:22pm Sat 2 Feb 13
stevemag wrote:Best football brain I meant !
Watford were great in the second half. Vydra turned the defender inside out for the first goal and showed immense skill and work rate the whole game.
Abdi for me is probably the one with thirst football brain. Challobah outstanding for someone just 18.
As for the ref, what a joke. He completely lost control at various points and seemed to give every decision to the opposition. He looked very young , why do we always get them at the vic !!?
Bush Hornet
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7:29pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Eastsussexhornet wrote:Eh?? Bolton looked good but we were better. A just result.
a1derek wrote:Yes, we were fortunate to win this but it's a good sign if we can win games like that. It is a reflection of the professionalism and the cohesiveness of the team. So it may be a good idea to keep that team from now on.
To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again.
Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week.
Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.
bigthunder
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7:35pm Sat 2 Feb 13
James AllCOCK !!
Frelons
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7:43pm Sat 2 Feb 13
That said, Bolton played well. We weren't great but a win is a win.
Eastsussexhornet
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7:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13
bigthunder wrote:Not forgetting Darren PRATley
Ref's name for those that remember these things the very apptly named
James AllCOCK !!
Mangoputney
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8:01pm Sat 2 Feb 13
WessexLad
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8:20pm Sat 2 Feb 13
I too was going to suggest that short referees are the most officious, but Frelon got in first.
Some excellent long passes to players in acres of space - but wasted by crosses all over the place, when we should be dropping it on Deeney's head.
Still, teams that go places are those that can win when not at their best, and that was certainly us today.
jasonwatford
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8:23pm Sat 2 Feb 13
DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian
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8:23pm Sat 2 Feb 13
I'm running out of superlatives for Vydra. I've never seen any player finish as clinically as him when one-on-one.
Let's keep the form going for the game against Palace and hope the international fixtures don't interfere too much. Very exciting times.
Mr Tee 123
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8:26pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Getting more than our fair share of shocking refs, think some of the Refs in the Olympian Sunday football league have done better the what we've had!!!
Oh and what a complete tool that 'Pratley' is.
goldanboy
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8:39pm Sat 2 Feb 13
We certainly looked better the longer the game went on and this was a good hard fought victory. It's a shame that our best player today wont be with us next season. Chalobah was amazing, so skillful and he can bring so many other players into play. Battocchio and Vydra were good to, but they all deserve some credit for grinding out a home victory which keeps the pressure on the teams above us. Not many away fans so we probably had a few more home fans than we thought. Palace on Friday and then away to Brum. Let's try and take a huge following to St Andrews....
jasonwatford
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8:45pm Sat 2 Feb 13
weeblehorn
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8:48pm Sat 2 Feb 13
jasonwatford wrote:It was just normal service that had been resumed.
No one has talked about 6 changes zola made today ???
DuffmanWFC
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8:54pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Abdi, Vydra, Chalobah and Battocchio were class today and if we manage to surprise our doubters this season and do go up these would be great signings! Maybe Chelsea would listen to an offer for Chalobah as I can't see him getting into the Chelsea first team set up?
A Capello
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9:01pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Mr Tee 123 wrote:Thought I was the only one to notice Mr Pratley's antics. Well done to Cassetti for not getting completely sucked into the blatent provocation. Had the Ref been at the same game Pratley could well have been seeing a red card for the running at Cassetti at the throw in and raising his hand to push him in the chest. Having got away with that he then proceeded to grab cassetti around the neck and pull his head towards him then presumably claiming a head butt? I could go on.
For me, Zydra, Abdi and Ekstrand were top class. Battocchio is looking like he needs to start every game. Would have of been nice to see Forestieri come on and have a run at them but not sure who for.
Getting more than our fair share of shocking refs, think some of the Refs in the Olympian Sunday football league have done better the what we've had!!!
Oh and what a complete tool that 'Pratley' is.
Nice one Watford.
aussihornet
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9:03pm Sat 2 Feb 13
If only we didn't lose to Bristol, I know in know, was back on Tuesday, but we'd be 2 points clear in 2nd ATM. Only saying it in relation to no other teams doing us a favour v Leicester & Cardiff. Cardiff never win by more than a goal difference, Peterborough was the last team to bother giving them a game & Leicester, last two games, wolves only bothered to start playing when they were 2-1 down, still lost & before that Middlesborough fluffed a last min penalty.
Just be nice if other teams could deny top two wins soon.
Anyways, Battocchio sounds like he's making a cracking contribution.
Palace next week is really important! I really hope Watford request their players who have been called up, only play 45 mins MAX. we still need them on Friday, crucial game as we could go 2nd.
Nosworthy will definitely be out, no way he'd play after a game in Mexico on Wednesday!
Top Job today Watford !!
onion8837
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9:08pm Sat 2 Feb 13
3Lions4Ever
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9:09pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Hopemole wrote:Hogg, Eustace, Murray, Yeates, etc. against Palace I suppose. Zola will need to inspire performances out of them along the lines of "show everyone you're not just second string". If he can i still think we've got a chance of taking the points.
Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game
SAHornet
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9:31pm Sat 2 Feb 13
3Lions4Ever wrote:The main problem with that midfield line-up would be Murray. Such a hot prospect last season. Should have fitted into this setup perfectly but now sadly gone to seed and needs careful but firm mentoring imo.
Hopemole wrote:Hogg, Eustace, Murray, Yeates, etc. against Palace I suppose. Zola will need to inspire performances out of them along the lines of "show everyone you're not just second string". If he can i still think we've got a chance of taking the points.
Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game
3Lions4Ever
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9:39pm Sat 2 Feb 13
SAHornet wrote:Tough to understand Murray's recent form I agree. Maybe not actually getting any mentoring or enough attention/guidance from Zola or other coaches at the club?
3Lions4Ever wrote:The main problem with that midfield line-up would be Murray. Such a hot prospect last season. Should have fitted into this setup perfectly but now sadly gone to seed and needs careful but firm mentoring imo.
Hopemole wrote:Hogg, Eustace, Murray, Yeates, etc. against Palace I suppose. Zola will need to inspire performances out of them along the lines of "show everyone you're not just second string". If he can i still think we've got a chance of taking the points.
Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game
WessexLad
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9:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13
He is a winger, and needs a full back behind him to work with. There is no such position in Zola's formation: he can't play wing back, as he is not a back, but lacks the presence to operate effectively in midfield.
By all accounts, he could do a lot more to look after himself physically when out on the town. A loan to a no nonsense manager could be the making of him, though.
Mark-H
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10:09pm Sat 2 Feb 13
WessexLad wrote:When he came through, Murray was considered a central attacking midfielder. I still think that if he was Spanish or Italian, he'd be playing in central midfield, maybe doing what Battocchio is doing right now. On his debut against Tottenham he played centre-mid!
Far from Murray "fitting into this setup perfectly", SA Hornet, I don't see where he fits in at all.
He is a winger, and needs a full back behind him to work with. There is no such position in Zola's formation: he can't play wing back, as he is not a back, but lacks the presence to operate effectively in midfield.
By all accounts, he could do a lot more to look after himself physically when out on the town. A loan to a no nonsense manager could be the making of him, though.
That said, going from being a hometown hero to out of the team almost every week must have affected him mentally. Agreed that a loan is the best thing for him - he's not contributing when he gets on the pitch, so a short-term move might sort him out. Somewhere far in the north perhaps!
Hampshire hornet
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11:08pm Sat 2 Feb 13
A Capello wrote:He butted Cassetti... How the tiny ref didn't see it... Oh hang on...
Mr Tee 123 wrote:Thought I was the only one to notice Mr Pratley's antics. Well done to Cassetti for not getting completely sucked into the blatent provocation. Had the Ref been at the same game Pratley could well have been seeing a red card for the running at Cassetti at the throw in and raising his hand to push him in the chest. Having got away with that he then proceeded to grab cassetti around the neck and pull his head towards him then presumably claiming a head butt? I could go on.
For me, Zydra, Abdi and Ekstrand were top class. Battocchio is looking like he needs to start every game. Would have of been nice to see Forestieri come on and have a run at them but not sure who for.
Getting more than our fair share of shocking refs, think some of the Refs in the Olympian Sunday football league have done better the what we've had!!!
Oh and what a complete tool that 'Pratley' is.
Nice one Watford.
Deeney MOM today.. Amazing... He should be Captain...
watford1881
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5:11am Sun 3 Feb 13
a1derek wrote:Agree totally.. Wish these mental fans who think we should win easy would go back to supporting man utd... We could have lost today easy.. The same as the second half at Forest..... Wise up........
To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again.
Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week.
Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.
lutondown
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5:35am Sun 3 Feb 13
watford1881 wrote:Go away Bas, lose at Forest? You're a joke.
a1derek wrote:Agree totally.. Wish these mental fans who think we should win easy would go back to supporting man utd... We could have lost today easy.. The same as the second half at Forest..... Wise up........
To be honest I thought we got away with one today. Bolton looked the better side for large parts of the game and it could easily have gone the other way. But 3 points when I thought we were far from our best bodes well...provided GFZ doesn't start tinkering again.
Having said that I fear he will given Internationals and our Friday kick off next week.
Word about the referee - just where do the football league dig them up from? He really was abject. We have some seen pretty poor officiating this season and this Guy was amongst the worst offenders.
Boosey
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6:11am Sun 3 Feb 13
Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved.
Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were.
So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
lutondown
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6:16am Sun 3 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:You didn't save them, your boozed up body happened to fall the right Way!
I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick.
Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved.
Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were.
So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
Interesting note, yet again 75 posts when we win to the 140 odd when we lose!
We really are a glass half empty lot.
Talking of glasses, mine was filled one too many times yesterday.
Boosey
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6:16am Sun 3 Feb 13
Boosey
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6:19am Sun 3 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:I think Sordell might be a lovechild of that stewardess! It's the eyes!
LD I can't believe you're awake already, you was well lagging yesterday. How's the head? LOL
lutondown
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6:21am Sun 3 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:He he he, that stewardess loves me! When getting my telling off I wasn't sure if it was me or Almunia she was rollicking!
Boosey wrote:I think Sordell might be a lovechild of that stewardess! It's the eyes!
LD I can't believe you're awake already, you was well lagging yesterday. How's the head? LOL
The heads sore by the way! Must of been the bitter, Guinness, lager combo. Not a good mix
Boosey
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6:48am Sun 3 Feb 13
mellow yellow
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7:10am Sun 3 Feb 13
As for yesterday, Abdi was absolutely superb. I spent a lot of time just watching his movement. The guy has so much awareness he always knows what he's about to do BEFORE he gets the ball. A joy to watch. I thought we were excellent in patches. Bolton came to play a bit too, which helps. And well done Sordell, for practically apologising. (The penalty decision itself was a bit iffy. An old fashioned shoulder barge, and the Bolton player threw himself down after, in the words of my mate, stepping aside like a horse doing dressage).
We march on.
mellow yellow
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7:32am Sun 3 Feb 13
Bring on Palarse.
SAHornet
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7:47am Sun 3 Feb 13
3Lions4Ever wrote:He's still a youngster and I would have thought that a proper parental or mentoring guide at home could & should have guided him away from the high-life with his mates to a much more responsible attitude towards his highly privileged life as a pro-footballer.
SAHornet wrote:Tough to understand Murray's recent form I agree. Maybe not actually getting any mentoring or enough attention/guidance from Zola or other coaches at the club?
3Lions4Ever wrote:The main problem with that midfield line-up would be Murray. Such a hot prospect last season. Should have fitted into this setup perfectly but now sadly gone to seed and needs careful but firm mentoring imo.
Hopemole wrote:Hogg, Eustace, Murray, Yeates, etc. against Palace I suppose. Zola will need to inspire performances out of them along the lines of "show everyone you're not just second string". If he can i still think we've got a chance of taking the points.
Good to see Battochio's contribution continuing to develop. Thankfully Bolton wanted to compete rather than sit back and both teams tried to play football. I wonder what kind of side we will put out against Crystal Palace after the internationals. In terms of second place this will be a crucial game
mk6 hornet
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7:49am Sun 3 Feb 13
SAHornet
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7:51am Sun 3 Feb 13
WessexLad wrote:Agree entirely Wessex. I meant that he had the potential to fit in but has effectively blown it with his poor attitude to his profession.
Far from Murray "fitting into this setup perfectly", SA Hornet, I don't see where he fits in at all.
He is a winger, and needs a full back behind him to work with. There is no such position in Zola's formation: he can't play wing back, as he is not a back, but lacks the presence to operate effectively in midfield.
By all accounts, he could do a lot more to look after himself physically when out on the town. A loan to a no nonsense manager could be the making of him, though.
SAHornet
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7:55am Sun 3 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick.
Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved.
Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were.
So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
Boosey
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8:06am Sun 3 Feb 13
SAHornet wrote:where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
Kingswoodhornet
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8:34am Sun 3 Feb 13
I honestly thought the ref was going to keep playing and/or giving them more and more ludicrous free kicks until justice was done in his eyes and the ex prem side equalised.
A hard fought win, coming from one down to a dodgy pen, a dodgy ref and against an ex prem side makes it all the sweeter, possibly more so than rolling an oppo over by 3 or 4?
Love it. These are good times promotion or not....enjoy the game!
Watfordwes
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8:48am Sun 3 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes.
SAHornet wrote:where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too late
Boosey
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9:29am Sun 3 Feb 13
Watfordwes wrote:What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick?
Boosey wrote:There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too lateSAHornet wrote:where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
I would back my method against any other.
Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.
lutondown
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10:09am Sun 3 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol
Watfordwes wrote:What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick?
Boosey wrote:There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too lateSAHornet wrote:where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
I would back my method against any other.
Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.
Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad!
Ha ha
Kingswoodhornet
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10:13am Sun 3 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Looks like the halftime penalty shoot outs all sorted for a future home game then. :)
Boosey wrote:But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol
Watfordwes wrote:What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick?
Boosey wrote:There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too lateSAHornet wrote:where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
I would back my method against any other.
Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.
Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad!
Ha ha
Boosey
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10:30am Sun 3 Feb 13
Kingswoodhornet wrote:The shoots outs at half time did cross my mind.
lutondown wrote:Looks like the halftime penalty shoot outs all sorted for a future home game then. :)Boosey wrote:But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad! Ha haWatfordwes wrote:What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick? I would back my method against any other. Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.Boosey wrote:There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too lateSAHornet wrote:where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
Boosey
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10:36am Sun 3 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:You sat down with a pint, I turned away and a second later I turn back round and it's on the floor. LOL Didn't take you long to drink half of mine did it?
Boosey wrote:But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad! Ha haWatfordwes wrote:What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick? I would back my method against any other. Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.Boosey wrote:There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too lateSAHornet wrote:where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
Every home game old matey comes up from Brighton, that's dedication.
I'm going to ask my boss for a pay rise because I need to kick the ball harder.
What a load of cods!
Bush Hornet
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11:17am Sun 3 Feb 13
Kingswoodhornet wrote:Totally agree Kingswood. And we could've gone 3-1 up if the ref hadn't stopped play for no reason when Deeney was about to pull the trigger. Once we went ahead Bolton offered v little and I was impressed with how we didn't panic and ground it out.
What I liked about yesterday's performance was that we ground out the result by sticking to our passing game. Last season we'd have put a big lump of a forward or a centre back up front and try to batter our way through. Yesterday we kept passing and moving our way through a very organised Bolton team. Boltons inspired substitution was to bring on the lump Davies and take off a more skill full player! Sound familiar?
I honestly thought the ref was going to keep playing and/or giving them more and more ludicrous free kicks until justice was done in his eyes and the ex prem side equalised.
A hard fought win, coming from one down to a dodgy pen, a dodgy ref and against an ex prem side makes it all the sweeter, possibly more so than rolling an oppo over by 3 or 4?
Love it. These are good times promotion or not....enjoy the game!
Abdi, Doyley, Vydra, Deeney all superb. Didn't think anyone had a bad game. But I do think Almunia should drink more the night before. It's a well known fact that if you're hungover the ball may just hit you if you don't move.
Berko Horn
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11:17am Sun 3 Feb 13
1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring
2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction.
Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
buckler
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11:41am Sun 3 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:I played in a team where our centre back and local hard man/ bouncer used to threaten the penalty taker! The same tactic was used at corners. Worked a treat!
I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick.
Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved.
Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were.
So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
lutondown
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12:44pm Sun 3 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Yep mungonutney and Chris don't mention his bottom both travel 50 odd mile each. Every game an away game!
lutondown wrote:You sat down with a pint, I turned away and a second later I turn back round and it's on the floor. LOL Didn't take you long to drink half of mine did it?
Boosey wrote:But you couldn't save my pint from spilling yesterday..and you hadn't moved when I dropped it...lol Just taking up your normal position to whip it all up a tad! Ha haWatfordwes wrote:What a load of bull! Just because someone gets paid doesn't mean they can kick a ball harder. Are you also saying the more they earn the harder they can kick? I would back my method against any other. Even at my age now, you can have your method, I'll take mine and I would save more penalties than you.Boosey wrote:There is science behind it. More penalties get saved by random diving than waiting to see which way a player goes. You saved penalties from amateurs, pros kick it harder and nearer the corners meaning if you wait its too lateSAHornet wrote:where did I say unfit? And trust me, I know that waiting for the ball to be kicked will result in more penalties saved than not. A lot of penalties I have seen this year have been straight down the middle, I rest my case.Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.Think that Almunia and the coaches and all the other keepers that play pro-football might know more than an unfit fella that played Sunday League footie many years ago. Just saying.....
Every home game old matey comes up from Brighton, that's dedication.
I'm going to ask my boss for a pay rise because I need to kick the ball harder.
What a load of cods!
SAHornet
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12:47pm Sun 3 Feb 13
Berko Horn wrote:John Marks & Derek Payne were horrified that the ref gave a penalty. Marks said he had simply stood his ground and the man went down
A very good win, but two points about the game.
1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring
2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction.
Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
gilesy97
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12:51pm Sun 3 Feb 13
Berko Horn wrote:I asked referee Steve Bennet this a year or so back .He said obstruction , ie an indirect free-kick is only given if no contact is made. If there's contact its no longer obstruction , just a foul..ie direct. Not sure the law changed , just the interpretation of it from FIFA ( ie there are interpretation notes for each Law given to referees). Yesterdays decision , therefore was rightly a penalty.
A very good win, but two points about the game.
1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring
2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction.
Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian
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1:06pm Sun 3 Feb 13
Berko Horn wrote:It was definitely a missed flick from Vydra, but good reactions to get on with it and run into the space.
A very good win, but two points about the game.
1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring
2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction.
Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
Boosey
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1:46pm Sun 3 Feb 13
Bush Hornet wrote:If you watch Almunia facing that penalty yesterday you will see if he didn't move he would have saved it.
Kingswoodhornet wrote: What I liked about yesterday's performance was that we ground out the result by sticking to our passing game. Last season we'd have put a big lump of a forward or a centre back up front and try to batter our way through. Yesterday we kept passing and moving our way through a very organised Bolton team. Boltons inspired substitution was to bring on the lump Davies and take off a more skill full player! Sound familiar? I honestly thought the ref was going to keep playing and/or giving them more and more ludicrous free kicks until justice was done in his eyes and the ex prem side equalised. A hard fought win, coming from one down to a dodgy pen, a dodgy ref and against an ex prem side makes it all the sweeter, possibly more so than rolling an oppo over by 3 or 4? Love it. These are good times promotion or not....enjoy the game!Totally agree Kingswood. And we could've gone 3-1 up if the ref hadn't stopped play for no reason when Deeney was about to pull the trigger. Once we went ahead Bolton offered v little and I was impressed with how we didn't panic and ground it out. Abdi, Doyley, Vydra, Deeney all superb. Didn't think anyone had a bad game. But I do think Almunia should drink more the night before. It's a well known fact that if you're hungover the ball may just hit you if you don't move.
Where in my comments does it state I was hungover? Smart ar5e
Boosey
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1:50pm Sun 3 Feb 13
buckler wrote:Sounds like the Bull and Tiger Borehamwood from years ago.
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.I played in a team where our centre back and local hard man/ bouncer used to threaten the penalty taker! The same tactic was used at corners. Worked a treat!
CARDIFFHORN
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1:53pm Sun 3 Feb 13
Berko Horn wrote:Totally agree with point 1.
A very good win, but two points about the game.
1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring
2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction.
Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.
Point 2 harsh but penalties given for less and worse not given.
Now having watched highlights penalty should of been retaken as BW No 3 nearly level with Sordell when he hit it.
Was TD in an
offside position when AA scored?
lutondown
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2:14pm Sun 3 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Only they had eleven hard man and an even harder man on the bench!
buckler wrote:Sounds like the Bull and Tiger Borehamwood from years ago.
Boosey wrote: I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick. Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved. Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were. So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.I played in a team where our centre back and local hard man/ bouncer used to threaten the penalty taker! The same tactic was used at corners. Worked a treat!
exeterhornet
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2:53pm Sun 3 Feb 13
1) Scoredell, you really are a deluded retard if you believe your match opinion.
2) The referee was truly appalling. Suffers from what I call "small man syndrome" - ie, probably hen pecked at home by a huge fat wife who never lets him win an argument so strolls around the pitch playing the big time Charlie. Well you idiot, I do not pay money to watch you, and you really spoilt my afternoon.
3) Enjoyed the game as a whole and thought Bolton contributed greatly to the entertainment. People's expectations are changing - last year that would have been hailed as an excellent performance. But, of course, we know the capabilities of this team and expect more. I think (an I am just as guilty) we are becoming too expectant because of the numerous excellent performances to date.
4) AT TIMES, I thought we were sublime again but also, at times, gave away posession too cheaply. Over the ninety minutes, I was thoroughly entertained despite the efforts of the idiot in black, and thought the result was thoroughly deserved.
5) Think the Bristol tinkering and result probably cost us 500 or so off the gate (we are still fickle) and hope that despite the cameras, with 2000 Palace and kids a quid , we get well over 15000 on Friday.
Great times!
Bush Hornet
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4:41pm Sun 3 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:calm down pal. I never suggested you would be hungover. I'm guessing hair of the dog
Bush Hornet wrote:If you watch Almunia facing that penalty yesterday you will see if he didn't move he would have saved it.
Kingswoodhornet wrote: What I liked about yesterday's performance was that we ground out the result by sticking to our passing game. Last season we'd have put a big lump of a forward or a centre back up front and try to batter our way through. Yesterday we kept passing and moving our way through a very organised Bolton team. Boltons inspired substitution was to bring on the lump Davies and take off a more skill full player! Sound familiar? I honestly thought the ref was going to keep playing and/or giving them more and more ludicrous free kicks until justice was done in his eyes and the ex prem side equalised. A hard fought win, coming from one down to a dodgy pen, a dodgy ref and against an ex prem side makes it all the sweeter, possibly more so than rolling an oppo over by 3 or 4? Love it. These are good times promotion or not....enjoy the game!Totally agree Kingswood. And we could've gone 3-1 up if the ref hadn't stopped play for no reason when Deeney was about to pull the trigger. Once we went ahead Bolton offered v little and I was impressed with how we didn't panic and ground it out. Abdi, Doyley, Vydra, Deeney all superb. Didn't think anyone had a bad game. But I do think Almunia should drink more the night before. It's a well known fact that if you're hungover the ball may just hit you if you don't move.
Where in my comments does it state I was hungover? Smart ar5e
tommy gunn
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5:34pm Sun 3 Feb 13
s no. 3 was almost behind Sordell when he struck the ball for the penalty kick.Should have been retaken.Poor ref to miss this.
Mangoputney
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5:58pm Sun 3 Feb 13
tommy gunn wrote:And when he rightly played advantage to Bolton who nearly scored but he decided to give them a free kick anyway! Ludicrous!
As someone has already commented,has the ref. ever heard of encroachment,Bolton'
s no. 3 was almost behind Sordell when he struck the ball for the penalty kick.Should have been retaken.Poor ref to miss this.
lutondown
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6:20pm Sun 3 Feb 13
Mangoputney wrote:Agreed he was a complete tool.
tommy gunn wrote:And when he rightly played advantage to Bolton who nearly scored but he decided to give them a free kick anyway! Ludicrous!
As someone has already commented,has the ref. ever heard of encroachment,Bolton'
s no. 3 was almost behind Sordell when he struck the ball for the penalty kick.Should have been retaken.Poor ref to miss this.
Vet_kills_puppy
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7:40pm Sun 3 Feb 13
(VKP making the effort to post after a win...)
:-)
Vet_kills_puppy
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8:10pm Sun 3 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:About 114 posts now LD...
Boosey wrote:You didn't save them, your boozed up body happened to fall the right Way!
I get really angry when a goalkeeper goes the wrong way for a penalty kick.
Years ago I played Sunday league football as a keeper. The majority of those mornings were after a heavy night out on the town. I hardly trained during the week but when a penalty was given against us I never went the wrong way and saved about 9 penalties in one season. I always waited for the ball to be kicked before I moved.
Now I'm sure with all the training the professionals have, their reflexs must be better than mine ever were.
So Almunia if you're reading this WAIT for the ball to be kicked before moving.
Interesting note, yet again 75 posts when we win to the 140 odd when we lose!
We really are a glass half empty lot.
Talking of glasses, mine was filled one too many times yesterday.
Chin chin!!!
londomollari
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10:48pm Sun 3 Feb 13
115
Hampshire hornet
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10:54pm Sun 3 Feb 13
Zola out
Vet_kills_puppy
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11:20pm Sun 3 Feb 13
Boosey
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4:37am Mon 4 Feb 13
CARDIFFHORN wrote:I watched it again and that's what I thought. Deeney involved in play by being in the goalkeepers line of vision in an offside position, think we were lucky on that one.
Berko Horn wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.Totally agree with point 1. Point 2 harsh but penalties given for less and worse not given. Now having watched highlights penalty should of been retaken as BW No 3 nearly level with Sordell when he hit it. Was TD in an offside position when AA scored?
Harry's Bar
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10:05am Mon 4 Feb 13
mimiperena wrote:Blackburn.
sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
Harry's Bar
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10:12am Mon 4 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Yes, what was Deeney doing, it was like he had completely switched off.
CARDIFFHORN wrote:I watched it again and that's what I thought. Deeney involved in play by being in the goalkeepers line of vision in an offside position, think we were lucky on that one.Berko Horn wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.Totally agree with point 1. Point 2 harsh but penalties given for less and worse not given. Now having watched highlights penalty should of been retaken as BW No 3 nearly level with Sordell when he hit it. Was TD in an offside position when AA scored?
lutondown
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12:35pm Mon 4 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:Watford
mimiperena wrote:Blackburn.
sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????
lutondown
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12:41pm Mon 4 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:Moving on, we'll take that it's the only thing the ref gave us.
Boosey wrote:Yes, what was Deeney doing, it was like he had completely switched off.
CARDIFFHORN wrote:I watched it again and that's what I thought. Deeney involved in play by being in the goalkeepers line of vision in an offside position, think we were lucky on that one.Berko Horn wrote: A very good win, but two points about the game. 1) Others have commented upon Vyda's skill for the first goal. From my view in the Vic, Matej tried to flick the ball to a teammate, totally missed it and that threw the defender. He then made the most of the space by scoring 2) Have I missed something or is obstruction no longer in the rule book? How often do you see a direct free kick nowadays for this? I felt the penalty was, at worst, obstruction. Looking forward to Friday already. Should be great night.Totally agree with point 1. Point 2 harsh but penalties given for less and worse not given. Now having watched highlights penalty should of been retaken as BW No 3 nearly level with Sordell when he hit it. Was TD in an offside position when AA scored?
Harry's Bar
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12:51pm Mon 4 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Have we timed our run too early, might we run out of steam, fizzle out in the run in like Cardiff did last season?
Harry's Bar wrote:Watfordmimiperena wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????Blackburn.
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1:00pm Mon 4 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:That's pessimistic Harry, I think we would have racked more points if the squad had come together earlier than they did. I'd rather be where we are than sitting mid table hoping that a late run might happen.
lutondown wrote:Have we timed our run too early, might we run out of steam, fizzle out in the run in like Cardiff did last season?
Harry's Bar wrote:Watfordmimiperena wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????Blackburn.
Harry's Bar
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1:49pm Mon 4 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:We have faded in the run in for the last 2 seasons but I actually don't think that will happen this time. The squad is so much stronger this season.
Harry's Bar wrote:That's pessimistic Harry, I think we would have racked more points if the squad had come together earlier than they did. I'd rather be where we are than sitting mid table hoping that a late run might happen.lutondown wrote:Have we timed our run too early, might we run out of steam, fizzle out in the run in like Cardiff did last season?Harry's Bar wrote:Watfordmimiperena wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????Blackburn.
lutondown
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1:59pm Mon 4 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:Two different set ups mate. Chalk and cheese really
lutondown wrote:We have faded in the run in for the last 2 seasons but I actually don't think that will happen this time. The squad is so much stronger this season.
Harry's Bar wrote:That's pessimistic Harry, I think we would have racked more points if the squad had come together earlier than they did. I'd rather be where we are than sitting mid table hoping that a late run might happen.lutondown wrote:Have we timed our run too early, might we run out of steam, fizzle out in the run in like Cardiff did last season?Harry's Bar wrote:Watfordmimiperena wrote: sorry us Leicester and Hull I should have said. I do however think this season with the exception of Middlesbrough the top 6 places are already sorted out. Usually one team comes with a late run, hard even to speculate who. Any ideas ????Blackburn.
JonBoy
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2:59pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Mohandas says...
5:08pm Sat 2 Feb 13