Watford spurn two-goal lead as Crystal Palace fight back for Championship point

Watford Observer: Almen Abdi celebrates giving Watford the lead. Picture: Action Images Almen Abdi celebrates giving Watford the lead. Picture: Action Images

Watford spurned a great opportunity to move into the automatic promotion places as they let slip a two-goal interval lead and fellow play-off hopefuls Crystal Palace battled back to earn a deserved 2-2 draw in front of the live TV cameras at Vicarage Road tonight.

It was almost the clichéd game of two halves from the Hornets, who played with style and confidence for large periods of the first half but after the break seemed unsure what to do from their position of strength. They sat increasingly deep, the quality of their ball retention and passing got worse as they were over-run in midfield with the visitors' half-time substitute Jonathan Williams very influential, and ultimately Gianfranco Zola’s men were holding on for a point.

It had all started so well for Watford as Almen Abdi fired them into a sixth-minute lead with a fine strike before Nathaniel Chalobah double the advantage seven minutes later.

The Hornets had further chances to wrap up the points before the interval but the visitors started to establish a foothold in the contest and then took control for prolonged periods after the break. And once Peter Ramage had pulled one back on 66 minutes, there was a sense Palace would get another and it came just four minutes later from Vicarage Road old boy Kevin Phillips.

Matej Vydra was in the starting line-up after the Pozzos sent a private jet to bring him back from international duty with the Czech Republic on Wednesday but Zola did make two changes from the side which beat Bolton Wanderers on Saturday.

Joel Ekstrand failed to recover from the knee injury that forced him to pull out of Sweden’s mid-week friendly against Argentina. With Nyron Nosworthy also unavailable after being away with Jamica, Tommie Hoban returned for his first appearance since New Year’s Day.

The other change was through choice as Jonathan Hogg came back into the starting line-up at the expense of Cristian Battocchio, who dropped to the bench.

The game was also particularly significant for Lloyd Doyley, who joined a very select band of Watford players to make 350 league appearances for the club.

Palace picked up their first win since New Year’s Day when they beat Charlton Athletic 2-1 last time out and Ian Holloway opted to make just the one change, with Stephen Dobbie replacing Stuart O’Keefe. That meant Phillips had to settle for a place on the bench on his latest return to the club where he started his professional career.

The Hornets began confidently and Julian Speroni was the first keeper called into action in the second minute, diving to his left to push a stinging 20-yard effort from Abdi away for a corner after Daniel Pudil had laid the ball back to the Swiss midfielder from the left.

The resultant set-piece was half-cleared to outside the right edge of the area where it was worked to Abdi, who laid the ball inside to Vydra but unusually for Watford’s ace marksman he snatched his shot high and wide, although he did have to rush the strike.

It took referee Michael Naylor just four minutes to get his cards out, although Fitz Hall could have few complaints about seeing yellow following a clear late challenge on Yannick Bolasie. But within two minutes the Hornets had made the breakthrough in impressive fashion.

There didn’t appear to be too much on as Vydra pursued Ashley Richards towards the left-hand corner but the Eagles right-back’s clearance was poor and latched on to by Abdi. He came inside on his right foot before curling a lovely low right-footed shot past the helpless Speroni from around 20 yards to make it 1-0.

The visitors sought an instant response and they weren’t too far away from getting it when Dobbie unleashed a right-footed drive from the edge of the area which Manuel Almunia had to push around his right-hand post.

Watford were playing with real confidence though, and in the 14th minute they opened up clear daylight over Holloway’s men.

Vydra chanced his arm with a shot from the left edge of the area which was blocked but the ball spun towards the right side of the penalty box where Marco Cassetti was in space. The Italian went for goal with a right-footed half-volley but he struck the ball into the ground, sending it towards the far post where both Chalobah and Tommie Hoban anticipated something might break and the England Under-21 midfielder rose to head in from a tight angle and make it 2-0.

There was a brief moment of alarm when Bolasie was allowed to advance towards the edge of the 18-yard box before striking a right-footed drive over. But twice Vydra could have made it 3-0 before the 25th minute.

First he uncharacteristically didn’t anticipate when a slip from a Palace defender allowed a low Cassetti cross to fizz across the six-yard box before another fine delivery from the former Roma man picked out the head of the Czech international but he slightly mistimed his leap and guided a fine opportunity wide of the far post.

Palace had been on the back foot but they enjoyed a decent spell approaching the half-hour mark, starting with Almunia rather shovelling a Glenn Murray header behind for a corner. The Championship’s top scorer then headed the resultant set piece over the top before, from the visitors’ next move, Dobbie fired a right-footed shot into the side netting.

The card count was levelled up in the 32nd minute when Alex Marrow cynically went through the back of Chalobah. The on-loan Chelsea youngster was struggling for a couple of minutes afterwards but after some treatment he was able to continue.

Holloway’s side continued to try and push for a way back into the game as the opening half entered its closing stages. Their opponents though, were defending well, although Dobbie was allowed to curl a shot from outside the area three minutes before the break which didn’t unduly trouble Almunia.

Watford had the next opportunity in the last minute of the half when a Daniel Pudil cross from the left was headed away to Chalobah. He played it forward to Vydra, who turned it on to Abdi but Watford’s first goalscorer was unable to keep his shot on the turn down.

Abdi had another opportunity in stoppage time when his side were awarded a free-kick towards the left edge of the area and his right-footed free-kick was deflected narrowly wide of the far post.

The Palace boss made a change to his midfield at the start of the second half, bringing on Williams for Marrow. But the visitors had to wait until the 53rd minute for their first attempt of the half when a Dobbie long-range effort was deflected behind.

After the corner had come to nothing, Holloway made his second change, with Phillips replacing Bolasie before Kagisho Dikgacoi let fly from 25 yards and the shot wasn’t too far over Almunia’s bar.

Palace’s best chance of getting back into the game to date came and went just short of the hour-mark when a Wilfried Zaha cross-shot from the right side of the area struck Murray right in front of goal. But the 24-goal striker was unable to react quickly enough to divert the ball past Almunia.

After Cassetti had been booked for a foul on Williams, Zola decided to make his first change and Fernando Forestieri came on for Vydra, who had looked jaded after being away on international duty.

But in the 66th minute, the visitors were back in the game when a corner from the right was blocked on the line by a combination of Almunia, Doyley and Phillips. With the substitute standing his ground, the two Hornets players were unable to clear their lines and Ramage quickest to slam the ball into the net.

The goal had been coming though, because Watford’s ball retention had been shocking since the interval and they had been pushed back but were also inviting pressure on themselves at times.

Within four minutes, Palace were back on terms.

Forestieri initially looked like he might have come out of the situation with credit when he tracked back with Zaha and slid in to make the challenge. However, he only succeeded in diverting the ball into the path of Richards, who had continued his run forward down the right, and he sent over a cross that Phillips met on the volley and dispatched it emphatically past Almunia to level things up at 2-2.

Watford were rocking but in the 73rd minute they thought they’d taken the lead again when Forestieri appeared to shake off a challenge and pulled the ball back to Troy Deeney, who tapped into the guarded net, only for the goal to be ruled out for a foul by the Argentine.

However, the momentum was firmly with the visitors and the Hornets were almost undone again when Zaha was allowed to squeeze in a low cross from the right and Ramage spun and hit the side netting.

A frustrated Chalobah was booked for kicking the ball away before Holloway made his final change, replacing Dobbie with Butterfield and then the Chelsea loanee made way for Battocchio.

Daniel Pudil was the next name to be taken by the referee for a foul on Zaha, even though the foul was committed by Hoban, and from the resultant free-kick on the right side of the area Ramage planted a header straight at Almunia.

There were to be no further openings in four minutes of stoppage time but while there was a sense of frustration after Watford had let a two-goal interval lead slip, there were also feelings of relief after a very disappointing display after the break.

Watford: Almunia; Doyley, Hall, Hoban; Cassetti, Chalobah (Battocchio 89), Hogg, Abdi, Pudil; Deeney, Vydra (Forestieri 65). Not used: Eustace, Yeates, S Murray, Bond and Geijo.

Crystal Palace: Speroni; Richards, Ramage, Delaney, Moxey; Dikgacoi, Marrow (Williams 46); Zaha, Dobbie (Butterfield 86), Bolasie (Phillips 54); G Murray. Not used: Parr, Wilbraham, O’Keefe and Price.

Bookings: Hall for a foul on Bolasie (4); Marrow for a foul on Chalobah (32); Cassetti for a foul on Williams (65); G Murray for a foul on Pudil (81); Chlobah for dissent (86); Pudil for a foul on Zaha (90).

Attendance: 15,079 (2,217 away).

Referee: Michael Naylor.

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10:01pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Dr Johnny Fever says...

Very disappointed, 2-0 and go on to draw, once vidra went off looked like we had no-one up front, didn't look like we would score, played too deep, couldn't cope with Williams when he came on, gave the ball away to easy,could have lost this game and if we meet them in the play off, it will be them, I think that will fancy there chances.
Very disappointed, 2-0 and go on to draw, once vidra went off looked like we had no-one up front, didn't look like we would score, played too deep, couldn't cope with Williams when he came on, gave the ball away to easy,could have lost this game and if we meet them in the play off, it will be them, I think that will fancy there chances. Dr Johnny Fever

10:02pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Diggercally says...

What is so annoying is that we fell for our own propaganda tonight - that we can sit back and win any game on the break. Deeney and Vydra had a few chances to break but weren't on the pace or the same wavelength. And we had no plan B. Time to get a different strategy for occasions when we are winning.
What is so annoying is that we fell for our own propaganda tonight - that we can sit back and win any game on the break. Deeney and Vydra had a few chances to break but weren't on the pace or the same wavelength. And we had no plan B. Time to get a different strategy for occasions when we are winning. Diggercally

10:02pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Mohandas says...

On reflection it was expected from two high scoring teams. A good point against a good Palace side hungry for the preiership. Hopefully a rested Vydra can pick up our winning ways. No point looking back We got the Yellow card too high.
On reflection it was expected from two high scoring teams. A good point against a good Palace side hungry for the preiership. Hopefully a rested Vydra can pick up our winning ways. No point looking back We got the Yellow card too high. Mohandas

10:05pm Fri 8 Feb 13

BigRussMalta says...

We were rubbish after we scored our 2nd and lucky not to lose but still move up a place,we sit back too much when we('re leading rather than carry the momentum and hammer while we were all over them.
We were rubbish after we scored our 2nd and lucky not to lose but still move up a place,we sit back too much when we('re leading rather than carry the momentum and hammer while we were all over them. BigRussMalta

10:08pm Fri 8 Feb 13

mattymashup says...

Keep the faith people! Game came too close after the internationals, we will go up!
Keep the faith people! Game came too close after the internationals, we will go up! mattymashup

10:08pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Feff says...

2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul
arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad. Feff

10:13pm Fri 8 Feb 13

The BestTrip2011 says...

I think, at 2-0 up, we thought it would be easy and we didn't reckon on Palarse taking objection to the fact! They deserved to win it in my book - a great comeback from them. I'll gladly take the point. Deeney and Vydra lacked their usual punch tonight and Abdi faded after 20 minutes. We need to regroup but let's not get too down - Palarse are a good side.
I think, at 2-0 up, we thought it would be easy and we didn't reckon on Palarse taking objection to the fact! They deserved to win it in my book - a great comeback from them. I'll gladly take the point. Deeney and Vydra lacked their usual punch tonight and Abdi faded after 20 minutes. We need to regroup but let's not get too down - Palarse are a good side. The BestTrip2011

10:17pm Fri 8 Feb 13

weeblehorn says...

The constent loud chanting from palace fans won them there point and should have won them all three. Did'nt go but watched on tv and all you could here all through the match was palace fans singing.
The constent loud chanting from palace fans won them there point and should have won them all three. Did'nt go but watched on tv and all you could here all through the match was palace fans singing. weeblehorn

10:23pm Fri 8 Feb 13

YoKsHiRe.....HoRn!!!!!!! says...

We looked very one dimentional and when Vydra went off we looked like we had no tions up front!

Ok some of the players have had a busy week but I'm worried that teams have now worked out how too play us!

Lets hope next week gives us time to re group and work out how to finish second in the Leauge, as we are very capable of this COYH
We looked very one dimentional and when Vydra went off we looked like we had no tions up front! Ok some of the players have had a busy week but I'm worried that teams have now worked out how too play us! Lets hope next week gives us time to re group and work out how to finish second in the Leauge, as we are very capable of this COYH YoKsHiRe.....HoRn!!!!!!!

10:23pm Fri 8 Feb 13

YoKsHiRe.....HoRn!!!!!!! says...

We looked very one dimentional and when Vydra went off we looked like we had no tions up front!

Ok some of the players have had a busy week but I'm worried that teams have now worked out how too play us!

Lets hope next week gives us time to re group and work out how to finish second in the Leauge, as we are very capable of this COYH
We looked very one dimentional and when Vydra went off we looked like we had no tions up front! Ok some of the players have had a busy week but I'm worried that teams have now worked out how too play us! Lets hope next week gives us time to re group and work out how to finish second in the Leauge, as we are very capable of this COYH YoKsHiRe.....HoRn!!!!!!!

10:25pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Stoney77 says...

A game of two halves. We were great first half, even when we were under the cosh between 30 and 45 mins we still played counter attacking football very well and just couldn't find that final ball to slip Vydra through, if we had then it could have been 4 or 5 by alf time!. 2nd half Palace were awesome and we were guilty of sitting on a 2-0 lead. But 2-0 is always an awkward scoreline. Zaha looked a real handful, what a player. Forestieri offered nothing. And in my opinion Chalobah has been a bit sloppy and given the ball away more than any of our centre mids in the last 3 games. Infuriating at times. Doyley and Hoban were awesome. To be honest I would have taken a point before the game. Finally just to say Abdi rocks my world! COYH! (ps don't normally say this, but Come on Brighton... Beat Hull tomorrow, and do us a nice favour. 8 days off now til Brum. Vydra will be fresh and we will turn them over!
A game of two halves. We were great first half, even when we were under the cosh between 30 and 45 mins we still played counter attacking football very well and just couldn't find that final ball to slip Vydra through, if we had then it could have been 4 or 5 by alf time!. 2nd half Palace were awesome and we were guilty of sitting on a 2-0 lead. But 2-0 is always an awkward scoreline. Zaha looked a real handful, what a player. Forestieri offered nothing. And in my opinion Chalobah has been a bit sloppy and given the ball away more than any of our centre mids in the last 3 games. Infuriating at times. Doyley and Hoban were awesome. To be honest I would have taken a point before the game. Finally just to say Abdi rocks my world! COYH! (ps don't normally say this, but Come on Brighton... Beat Hull tomorrow, and do us a nice favour. 8 days off now til Brum. Vydra will be fresh and we will turn them over! Stoney77

10:25pm Fri 8 Feb 13

peter10531089 says...

Disappointing of course but taking a point when palace deserved all three has to be seen as a bonus. I thought Hogg was dreadful in possession this evening and was surprised battochio didn't replace him. Thought Hoban did well.
Disappointing of course but taking a point when palace deserved all three has to be seen as a bonus. I thought Hogg was dreadful in possession this evening and was surprised battochio didn't replace him. Thought Hoban did well. peter10531089

10:35pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Jazz 'Orns! says...

Hello People, Lifetime fan and longtime time reader, sorry for being a stay away (sadly 1 game a season, poor show, shout me down!!) but having watched the game tonight I can still see the long term plan in effect. Vydra is the man, but not the team, but without him training with the others this week and the international duty surely that will take its toll? Palarse chanting didn't help. It became a drone on Sky. I still have every faith that we can remain in the play-off's, which is more than anyone would have ever expected last summer. I have worked around time off work to head to the Sheff Weds game on Tuesday 5th March (again sorry for staying away) but if anyone cares to welcome a new face down and the Y&R Lion? Regardless chaps your banter, wit and humour keep me happy to follow Watford on a daily basis. Thanks for making my working week bearable and be proud that we share the greatest common goal in the world! COYH!!!!
Hello People, Lifetime fan and longtime time reader, sorry for being a stay away (sadly 1 game a season, poor show, shout me down!!) but having watched the game tonight I can still see the long term plan in effect. Vydra is the man, but not the team, but without him training with the others this week and the international duty surely that will take its toll? Palarse chanting didn't help. It became a drone on Sky. I still have every faith that we can remain in the play-off's, which is more than anyone would have ever expected last summer. I have worked around time off work to head to the Sheff Weds game on Tuesday 5th March (again sorry for staying away) but if anyone cares to welcome a new face down and the Y&R Lion? Regardless chaps your banter, wit and humour keep me happy to follow Watford on a daily basis. Thanks for making my working week bearable and be proud that we share the greatest common goal in the world! COYH!!!! Jazz 'Orns!

10:44pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Jazz 'Orns! says...

Jazz 'Orns! wrote:
Hello People, Lifetime fan and longtime time reader, sorry for being a stay away (sadly 1 game a season, poor show, shout me down!!) but having watched the game tonight I can still see the long term plan in effect. Vydra is the man, but not the team, but without him training with the others this week and the international duty surely that will take its toll? Palarse chanting didn't help. It became a drone on Sky. I still have every faith that we can remain in the play-off's, which is more than anyone would have ever expected last summer. I have worked around time off work to head to the Sheff Weds game on Tuesday 5th March (again sorry for staying away) but if anyone cares to welcome a new face down and the Y&R Lion? Regardless chaps your banter, wit and humour keep me happy to follow Watford on a daily basis. Thanks for making my working week bearable and be proud that we share the greatest common goal in the world! COYH!!!!
R&Y Lion... D'oh!
[quote][p][bold]Jazz 'Orns![/bold] wrote: Hello People, Lifetime fan and longtime time reader, sorry for being a stay away (sadly 1 game a season, poor show, shout me down!!) but having watched the game tonight I can still see the long term plan in effect. Vydra is the man, but not the team, but without him training with the others this week and the international duty surely that will take its toll? Palarse chanting didn't help. It became a drone on Sky. I still have every faith that we can remain in the play-off's, which is more than anyone would have ever expected last summer. I have worked around time off work to head to the Sheff Weds game on Tuesday 5th March (again sorry for staying away) but if anyone cares to welcome a new face down and the Y&R Lion? Regardless chaps your banter, wit and humour keep me happy to follow Watford on a daily basis. Thanks for making my working week bearable and be proud that we share the greatest common goal in the world! COYH!!!![/p][/quote]R&Y Lion... D'oh! Jazz 'Orns!

10:47pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Meadey39 says...

Think we saw tonight that we will have to adapt our game if we are going to beat the sides around us. After going 2-0 up we stopped passing and moving the ball around. When we are under pressure we need a keeper who can organise the defence and command his area. Sadly Almunia is not the man, he gives no confidence to his defenders and again his distribution was shocking. Maybe look at getting a keeper on loan so we can maintain a play off place.
Think we saw tonight that we will have to adapt our game if we are going to beat the sides around us. After going 2-0 up we stopped passing and moving the ball around. When we are under pressure we need a keeper who can organise the defence and command his area. Sadly Almunia is not the man, he gives no confidence to his defenders and again his distribution was shocking. Maybe look at getting a keeper on loan so we can maintain a play off place. Meadey39

10:48pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Guy Bov says...

Not the end of the world, up to 3rd, got a point against a promotion rival and didnt give away a late goal which we have always seemingly been prone to do.
8 days before our next game to regroup and refresh the batteries. You Horns !!
Not the end of the world, up to 3rd, got a point against a promotion rival and didnt give away a late goal which we have always seemingly been prone to do. 8 days before our next game to regroup and refresh the batteries. You Horns !! Guy Bov

10:49pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Jazz 'Orns! says...

peter10531089 wrote:
Disappointing of course but taking a point when palace deserved all three has to be seen as a bonus. I thought Hogg was dreadful in possession this evening and was surprised battochio didn't replace him. Thought Hoban did well.
toyally agree, Hoban showed why there is interest in him. Keeping the faith!
[quote][p][bold]peter10531089[/bold] wrote: Disappointing of course but taking a point when palace deserved all three has to be seen as a bonus. I thought Hogg was dreadful in possession this evening and was surprised battochio didn't replace him. Thought Hoban did well.[/p][/quote]toyally agree, Hoban showed why there is interest in him. Keeping the faith! Jazz 'Orns!

10:52pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Watford-James says...

Great atmosphere in the ground first half, quiet 2nd. Excellent football 1st half, lacked composure 2nd. Deeney looked like he was the one who had a midweek fixture. Geijo start on sat? no point licking our wounds. Plenty of room for improvement based on tonight, which I regard a good thing. looking forward to 3 points at Brum. You Orns!
Great atmosphere in the ground first half, quiet 2nd. Excellent football 1st half, lacked composure 2nd. Deeney looked like he was the one who had a midweek fixture. Geijo start on sat? no point licking our wounds. Plenty of room for improvement based on tonight, which I regard a good thing. looking forward to 3 points at Brum. You Orns! Watford-James

10:53pm Fri 8 Feb 13

gloryhornet4 says...

Jazz 'Orns! wrote:
Jazz 'Orns! wrote:
Hello People, Lifetime fan and longtime time reader, sorry for being a stay away (sadly 1 game a season, poor show, shout me down!!) but having watched the game tonight I can still see the long term plan in effect. Vydra is the man, but not the team, but without him training with the others this week and the international duty surely that will take its toll? Palarse chanting didn't help. It became a drone on Sky. I still have every faith that we can remain in the play-off's, which is more than anyone would have ever expected last summer. I have worked around time off work to head to the Sheff Weds game on Tuesday 5th March (again sorry for staying away) but if anyone cares to welcome a new face down and the Y&R Lion? Regardless chaps your banter, wit and humour keep me happy to follow Watford on a daily basis. Thanks for making my working week bearable and be proud that we share the greatest common goal in the world! COYH!!!!
R&Y Lion... D'oh!
It is actually the Bas Bar.
[quote][p][bold]Jazz 'Orns![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jazz 'Orns![/bold] wrote: Hello People, Lifetime fan and longtime time reader, sorry for being a stay away (sadly 1 game a season, poor show, shout me down!!) but having watched the game tonight I can still see the long term plan in effect. Vydra is the man, but not the team, but without him training with the others this week and the international duty surely that will take its toll? Palarse chanting didn't help. It became a drone on Sky. I still have every faith that we can remain in the play-off's, which is more than anyone would have ever expected last summer. I have worked around time off work to head to the Sheff Weds game on Tuesday 5th March (again sorry for staying away) but if anyone cares to welcome a new face down and the Y&R Lion? Regardless chaps your banter, wit and humour keep me happy to follow Watford on a daily basis. Thanks for making my working week bearable and be proud that we share the greatest common goal in the world! COYH!!!![/p][/quote]R&Y Lion... D'oh![/p][/quote]It is actually the Bas Bar. gloryhornet4

10:55pm Fri 8 Feb 13

micksolly says...

Bit of shame after being two up but palace came back well and we didn't or couldn't respond. Agree with one of the earlier posts should have got Botochio on earlier. Keep the faith it's going well and let's get back on track at St. Andrews next week you orns
Bit of shame after being two up but palace came back well and we didn't or couldn't respond. Agree with one of the earlier posts should have got Botochio on earlier. Keep the faith it's going well and let's get back on track at St. Andrews next week you orns micksolly

10:56pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Jmenezes says...

The problem is that watford play for years npower! The fans belive in big lies like HOGG and DOYLEY is two exemples about poor players that people like. Both have fear with the ball, the first leson to play is how to have the ball under control.and I can talk too about HALL and your big speed
The problem is that watford play for years npower! The fans belive in big lies like HOGG and DOYLEY is two exemples about poor players that people like. Both have fear with the ball, the first leson to play is how to have the ball under control.and I can talk too about HALL and your big speed Jmenezes

11:03pm Fri 8 Feb 13

goldanboy says...

Bright first 30 minutes, then Palace settled on the ball. We took a point from a good side who'll be there at the end, so I'll settle for that, despite Holloways moaning about all our loanees.
When was the last time you saw anyone as talented as Zaha at the Vic?
The boy will be playing Champions League football next season without a doubt.
Bright first 30 minutes, then Palace settled on the ball. We took a point from a good side who'll be there at the end, so I'll settle for that, despite Holloways moaning about all our loanees. When was the last time you saw anyone as talented as Zaha at the Vic? The boy will be playing Champions League football next season without a doubt. goldanboy

11:04pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Hornet Cornet says...

we was rubbish for most of the game. the wheels are falling off my friends. theyre falling off.
we was rubbish for most of the game. the wheels are falling off my friends. theyre falling off. Hornet Cornet

11:05pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Jazz 'Orns! says...

gloryhornet4 wrote:
Jazz 'Orns! wrote:
Jazz 'Orns! wrote:
Hello People, Lifetime fan and longtime time reader, sorry for being a stay away (sadly 1 game a season, poor show, shout me down!!) but having watched the game tonight I can still see the long term plan in effect. Vydra is the man, but not the team, but without him training with the others this week and the international duty surely that will take its toll? Palarse chanting didn't help. It became a drone on Sky. I still have every faith that we can remain in the play-off's, which is more than anyone would have ever expected last summer. I have worked around time off work to head to the Sheff Weds game on Tuesday 5th March (again sorry for staying away) but if anyone cares to welcome a new face down and the Y&R Lion? Regardless chaps your banter, wit and humour keep me happy to follow Watford on a daily basis. Thanks for making my working week bearable and be proud that we share the greatest common goal in the world! COYH!!!!
R&Y Lion... D'oh!
It is actually the Bas Bar.
Ah! I see, when they pour a pint (watered down?) they just ring a no sale through the till and put the money in their pockets, great business sense. I think its the way you should run a football club to great success... No? ;D
[quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jazz 'Orns![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jazz 'Orns![/bold] wrote: Hello People, Lifetime fan and longtime time reader, sorry for being a stay away (sadly 1 game a season, poor show, shout me down!!) but having watched the game tonight I can still see the long term plan in effect. Vydra is the man, but not the team, but without him training with the others this week and the international duty surely that will take its toll? Palarse chanting didn't help. It became a drone on Sky. I still have every faith that we can remain in the play-off's, which is more than anyone would have ever expected last summer. I have worked around time off work to head to the Sheff Weds game on Tuesday 5th March (again sorry for staying away) but if anyone cares to welcome a new face down and the Y&R Lion? Regardless chaps your banter, wit and humour keep me happy to follow Watford on a daily basis. Thanks for making my working week bearable and be proud that we share the greatest common goal in the world! COYH!!!![/p][/quote]R&Y Lion... D'oh![/p][/quote]It is actually the Bas Bar.[/p][/quote]Ah! I see, when they pour a pint (watered down?) they just ring a no sale through the till and put the money in their pockets, great business sense. I think its the way you should run a football club to great success... No? ;D Jazz 'Orns!

11:07pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Stoney77 says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
we was rubbish for most of the game. the wheels are falling off my friends. theyre falling off.
Have faith brother. We were 1-0 down at weekend and won. 2-0 up tonight and drew. We are 3rd!
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: we was rubbish for most of the game. the wheels are falling off my friends. theyre falling off.[/p][/quote]Have faith brother. We were 1-0 down at weekend and won. 2-0 up tonight and drew. We are 3rd! Stoney77

11:14pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Jazz 'Orns! says...

Jazz 'Orns! wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
Jazz 'Orns! wrote:
Jazz 'Orns! wrote:
Hello People, Lifetime fan and longtime time reader, sorry for being a stay away (sadly 1 game a season, poor show, shout me down!!) but having watched the game tonight I can still see the long term plan in effect. Vydra is the man, but not the team, but without him training with the others this week and the international duty surely that will take its toll? Palarse chanting didn't help. It became a drone on Sky. I still have every faith that we can remain in the play-off's, which is more than anyone would have ever expected last summer. I have worked around time off work to head to the Sheff Weds game on Tuesday 5th March (again sorry for staying away) but if anyone cares to welcome a new face down and the Y&R Lion? Regardless chaps your banter, wit and humour keep me happy to follow Watford on a daily basis. Thanks for making my working week bearable and be proud that we share the greatest common goal in the world! COYH!!!!
R&Y Lion... D'oh!
It is actually the Bas Bar.
Ah! I see, when they pour a pint (watered down?) they just ring a no sale through the till and put the money in their pockets, great business sense. I think its the way you should run a football club to great success... No? ;D
Where does everyone meet so as not to line the pockets of the 3rd Chuckle Brother?
[quote][p][bold]Jazz 'Orns![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jazz 'Orns![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jazz 'Orns![/bold] wrote: Hello People, Lifetime fan and longtime time reader, sorry for being a stay away (sadly 1 game a season, poor show, shout me down!!) but having watched the game tonight I can still see the long term plan in effect. Vydra is the man, but not the team, but without him training with the others this week and the international duty surely that will take its toll? Palarse chanting didn't help. It became a drone on Sky. I still have every faith that we can remain in the play-off's, which is more than anyone would have ever expected last summer. I have worked around time off work to head to the Sheff Weds game on Tuesday 5th March (again sorry for staying away) but if anyone cares to welcome a new face down and the Y&R Lion? Regardless chaps your banter, wit and humour keep me happy to follow Watford on a daily basis. Thanks for making my working week bearable and be proud that we share the greatest common goal in the world! COYH!!!![/p][/quote]R&Y Lion... D'oh![/p][/quote]It is actually the Bas Bar.[/p][/quote]Ah! I see, when they pour a pint (watered down?) they just ring a no sale through the till and put the money in their pockets, great business sense. I think its the way you should run a football club to great success... No? ;D[/p][/quote]Where does everyone meet so as not to line the pockets of the 3rd Chuckle Brother? Jazz 'Orns!

11:14pm Fri 8 Feb 13

KeithMercer says...

2-0 up after 15 and looking the part , the next goal was always going to be the killer either way. We have to be a little more clever and possibly patient and make sure its us who gets the killer goal as we all know it would then have been 5 or 6. Thought we lost our way after the Vydra substitution, would have kept him on for the fear factor and would of made Palace more wary about going all out attack. Sorry FF it wasnt your day and you had a bit of a mare ! you us one , just hope you can pay us back and more pretty sharpish would be nice. Very disappointed but could of been worse, the old days we would have lost that one.
2-0 up after 15 and looking the part , the next goal was always going to be the killer either way. We have to be a little more clever and possibly patient and make sure its us who gets the killer goal as we all know it would then have been 5 or 6. Thought we lost our way after the Vydra substitution, would have kept him on for the fear factor and would of made Palace more wary about going all out attack. Sorry FF it wasnt your day and you had a bit of a mare ! you us one , just hope you can pay us back and more pretty sharpish would be nice. Very disappointed but could of been worse, the old days we would have lost that one. KeithMercer

11:19pm Fri 8 Feb 13

KeithMercer says...

Jazz Orns had enough of you already ! comeback in a year or two ?
Jazz Orns had enough of you already ! comeback in a year or two ? KeithMercer

11:30pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Hornet Cornet says...

Stoney77 wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
we was rubbish for most of the game. the wheels are falling off my friends. theyre falling off.
Have faith brother. We were 1-0 down at weekend and won. 2-0 up tonight and drew. We are 3rd!
I've got to have faith Because I've got to have faith Faith Faith I've got to have faith Faith Faith
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: we was rubbish for most of the game. the wheels are falling off my friends. theyre falling off.[/p][/quote]Have faith brother. We were 1-0 down at weekend and won. 2-0 up tonight and drew. We are 3rd![/p][/quote]I've got to have faith Because I've got to have faith Faith Faith I've got to have faith Faith Faith Hornet Cornet

12:00am Sat 9 Feb 13

Harrydownunder says...

Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul

arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
[quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!" Harrydownunder

12:03am Sat 9 Feb 13

WessexLad says...

Too many misplaced passes in the 2nd half. When we have wing backs in space we need to use them.

Deeney outjumped all night, yet we persisted in giving him aerial balls. We needed a midfield general which a goalkeeper captain can never be.
Too many misplaced passes in the 2nd half. When we have wing backs in space we need to use them. Deeney outjumped all night, yet we persisted in giving him aerial balls. We needed a midfield general which a goalkeeper captain can never be. WessexLad

12:16am Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Harrydownunder wrote:
Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul


arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered.
I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle.
Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often.
Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do.
And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.
[quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"[/p][/quote]He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered. I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle. Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often. Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do. And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again. lutondown

12:33am Sat 9 Feb 13

Jazz 'Orns! says...

KeithMercer wrote:
Jazz Orns had enough of you already ! comeback in a year or two ?
ok
[quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: Jazz Orns had enough of you already ! comeback in a year or two ?[/p][/quote]ok Jazz 'Orns!

12:47am Sat 9 Feb 13

a1derek says...

Brilliant first 20 minutes, but...we sat back again and let Palace into the game. From there on we simply couldn't get back into it.

I know Chalobah is 2-3 years younger than Zaha, but he could do with looking at Zaha's performance tonight. Zaha was outstanding. He only did the tricks in our last third and I can't remember him giving the ball away too many times. Without doubt he is a REAL quality act and will go to the very top - we simply couldn't handle him. Chalobah on the other hand, tried the fancy stuff on the edge of our area or deep in our half and lost the ball too many times.

Same for Hogg (minus the tricks) gave the ball away cheaply too many times and their first goal came from giving the ball away deep in our half (although don't think it was Hogg). Having said that most of our team were guilty in the second half on many occasions.

Not sure why we went almost totally long ball in the second half, but we certainly had no creativity and just gave the ball away constantly - poor second half. I think we have to put that down to the way Palace played and it is something we have to learn to deal with. If teams really "get in our face" we do seem to lose our way somewhat.

But...point gained in the end I guess and lucky to hold on against a good side.

7 more wins will guaratnee playoffs and I think we are more than capable of that and from there anything can happen. 10 more wins for automatic!
Brilliant first 20 minutes, but...we sat back again and let Palace into the game. From there on we simply couldn't get back into it. I know Chalobah is 2-3 years younger than Zaha, but he could do with looking at Zaha's performance tonight. Zaha was outstanding. He only did the tricks in our last third and I can't remember him giving the ball away too many times. Without doubt he is a REAL quality act and will go to the very top - we simply couldn't handle him. Chalobah on the other hand, tried the fancy stuff on the edge of our area or deep in our half and lost the ball too many times. Same for Hogg (minus the tricks) gave the ball away cheaply too many times and their first goal came from giving the ball away deep in our half (although don't think it was Hogg). Having said that most of our team were guilty in the second half on many occasions. Not sure why we went almost totally long ball in the second half, but we certainly had no creativity and just gave the ball away constantly - poor second half. I think we have to put that down to the way Palace played and it is something we have to learn to deal with. If teams really "get in our face" we do seem to lose our way somewhat. But...point gained in the end I guess and lucky to hold on against a good side. 7 more wins will guaratnee playoffs and I think we are more than capable of that and from there anything can happen. 10 more wins for automatic! a1derek

1:23am Sat 9 Feb 13

Mangoputney says...

lutondown wrote:
Harrydownunder wrote:
Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul



arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered.
I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle.
Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often.
Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do.
And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.
The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"[/p][/quote]He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered. I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle. Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often. Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do. And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.[/p][/quote]The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!) Mangoputney

1:46am Sat 9 Feb 13

Bush Hornet says...

lutondown wrote:
Harrydownunder wrote:
Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul



arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered.
I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle.
Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often.
Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do.
And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.
I agree Hollowhead is an attention grabbing berk.

Zola is class, whatever the dunces want to say.
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"[/p][/quote]He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered. I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle. Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often. Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do. And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.[/p][/quote]I agree Hollowhead is an attention grabbing berk. Zola is class, whatever the dunces want to say. Bush Hornet

4:59am Sat 9 Feb 13

SAHornet says...

weeblehorn wrote:
The constent loud chanting from palace fans won them there point and should have won them all three. Did'nt go but watched on tv and all you could here all through the match was palace fans singing.
Yep, totally agree with that. Hardly heard Watford fans at all....on the telly anyway, maybe it was different in the ground ???
[quote][p][bold]weeblehorn[/bold] wrote: The constent loud chanting from palace fans won them there point and should have won them all three. Did'nt go but watched on tv and all you could here all through the match was palace fans singing.[/p][/quote]Yep, totally agree with that. Hardly heard Watford fans at all....on the telly anyway, maybe it was different in the ground ??? SAHornet

5:07am Sat 9 Feb 13

KeithMercer says...

cant sleep tonight (hence why I am on here posting at 4-55 am) just keep turning it over in my mind how could that second half go so badly ? did we have an attempt on goal ?. Agree Mango about the support, as soon as things go against us we shut up and translate our anxieties on to the pitch, not helpful at all.
Afraid Hogg just cant keep possession and offers Zero goal threat.Didnt quite see Chalobah as MOM but that might just be me.Lets try and be positive, if we can go and get wins at Brum and Ipswich we will be back on track ! dont mind even if they are scrappy 1 nillers just get the points please. Oh well back to bed and hopefully when I wake up it was just a bad dream and we actually won 5-0 ;-)
cant sleep tonight (hence why I am on here posting at 4-55 am) just keep turning it over in my mind how could that second half go so badly ? did we have an attempt on goal ?. Agree Mango about the support, as soon as things go against us we shut up and translate our anxieties on to the pitch, not helpful at all. Afraid Hogg just cant keep possession and offers Zero goal threat.Didnt quite see Chalobah as MOM but that might just be me.Lets try and be positive, if we can go and get wins at Brum and Ipswich we will be back on track ! dont mind even if they are scrappy 1 nillers just get the points please. Oh well back to bed and hopefully when I wake up it was just a bad dream and we actually won 5-0 ;-) KeithMercer

5:11am Sat 9 Feb 13

KeithMercer says...

Oh and Jazz Horns sorry pal dont leave it too long but was and still am a bit frustrated ! not a happy bunny at the mo.
Oh and Jazz Horns sorry pal dont leave it too long but was and still am a bit frustrated ! not a happy bunny at the mo. KeithMercer

5:14am Sat 9 Feb 13

SAHornet says...

Mangoputney wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harrydownunder wrote:
Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul




arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered.
I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle.
Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often.
Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do.
And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.
The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)
Yeah, it was a bit embarrassing listening to 2,000 Palace fans out singing us at home.

We have to learn how to cope with a determined opponent trying to get in our face in order to get back into a game. Down to GZ to weave a little magic in the coming week.
[quote][p][bold]Mangoputney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"[/p][/quote]He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered. I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle. Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often. Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do. And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.[/p][/quote]The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)[/p][/quote]Yeah, it was a bit embarrassing listening to 2,000 Palace fans out singing us at home. We have to learn how to cope with a determined opponent trying to get in our face in order to get back into a game. Down to GZ to weave a little magic in the coming week. SAHornet

7:13am Sat 9 Feb 13

John Howard Norfolk says...

Palace's second was scrappy but in the end a draw was a fair result.
Palace's second was scrappy but in the end a draw was a fair result. John Howard Norfolk

7:38am Sat 9 Feb 13

gulfhornet says...

Lifelong Hornets fan restricted to August/December home games,watched the match on TV here in Gulf and feared Palace nicking it (yet again!) at the end.Was wishing for Battocchio to come on and show how to hold and pass.We lost the plot in the second half.Last August would have settled for 3rd place with 15 matches to go.Respect to real Hornets fans at the Vic and world-wide.
Lifelong Hornets fan restricted to August/December home games,watched the match on TV here in Gulf and feared Palace nicking it (yet again!) at the end.Was wishing for Battocchio to come on and show how to hold and pass.We lost the plot in the second half.Last August would have settled for 3rd place with 15 matches to go.Respect to real Hornets fans at the Vic and world-wide. gulfhornet

7:59am Sat 9 Feb 13

CARDIFFHORN says...

WessexLad wrote:
Too many misplaced passes in the 2nd half. When we have wing backs in space we need to use them.

Deeney outjumped all night, yet we persisted in giving him aerial balls. We needed a midfield general which a goalkeeper captain can never be.
Totally agree with this comment, Aluminia is not a captain, when it all started going wrong if not from thhe start JE was required.
[quote][p][bold]WessexLad[/bold] wrote: Too many misplaced passes in the 2nd half. When we have wing backs in space we need to use them. Deeney outjumped all night, yet we persisted in giving him aerial balls. We needed a midfield general which a goalkeeper captain can never be.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with this comment, Aluminia is not a captain, when it all started going wrong if not from thhe start JE was required. CARDIFFHORN

8:34am Sat 9 Feb 13

wheelsonfire says...

Think we lost (seems like anyway) on new years day! After the criticism GFZ got after the Charlton game he was reluctant to 'change a winning team'.
Vydra looked tired and pehaps should have been rested, at least for the start.
Thought Deeney was poor. He doesn't seem quick enough, both physically and mentally, to play alongside Vydra lately. Would liked to have seen Geijo on with Vydra.
Still doing much better than anyone thought in August.
Did anyone hear that moron Hollowords on Skye rubbishing our loanees!
Think we lost (seems like anyway) on new years day! After the criticism GFZ got after the Charlton game he was reluctant to 'change a winning team'. Vydra looked tired and pehaps should have been rested, at least for the start. Thought Deeney was poor. He doesn't seem quick enough, both physically and mentally, to play alongside Vydra lately. Would liked to have seen Geijo on with Vydra. Still doing much better than anyone thought in August. Did anyone hear that moron Hollowords on Skye rubbishing our loanees! wheelsonfire

8:35am Sat 9 Feb 13

endean2 says...

I think its all been said above by now
but here is my 2 pennyworth.

Zola your obviously a great man and we realise that your still learning the ropes but your (our) team does need a plan B at least and also a C.

After 30 minutes the whole game changed as Palace woke up, what did we do? nothing whatsoever.

Vydra was running on empty and FF
coming on was very poor to put it kindly. Palace must be kicking themselves as they should have put four or five past us in the 2nd half.

no its not a disaster , we got a point and who knows we may have learnt something from it.

Final word for the supporters, what a gold plated embarrassment your vocal support was!!!!!!!!!!
palace were carried on a wave of emotion by their fans,
our mob simply dragged us down.

Can we have 3000 up in Brum cheering us on to victory please
I think its all been said above by now but here is my 2 pennyworth. Zola your obviously a great man and we realise that your still learning the ropes but your (our) team does need a plan B at least and also a C. After 30 minutes the whole game changed as Palace woke up, what did we do? nothing whatsoever. Vydra was running on empty and FF coming on was very poor to put it kindly. Palace must be kicking themselves as they should have put four or five past us in the 2nd half. no its not a disaster , we got a point and who knows we may have learnt something from it. Final word for the supporters, what a gold plated embarrassment your vocal support was!!!!!!!!!! palace were carried on a wave of emotion by their fans, our mob simply dragged us down. Can we have 3000 up in Brum cheering us on to victory please endean2

10:14am Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

endean2 wrote:
I think its all been said above by now
but here is my 2 pennyworth.

Zola your obviously a great man and we realise that your still learning the ropes but your (our) team does need a plan B at least and also a C.

After 30 minutes the whole game changed as Palace woke up, what did we do? nothing whatsoever.

Vydra was running on empty and FF
coming on was very poor to put it kindly. Palace must be kicking themselves as they should have put four or five past us in the 2nd half.

no its not a disaster , we got a point and who knows we may have learnt something from it.

Final word for the supporters, what a gold plated embarrassment your vocal support was!!!!!!!!!!
palace were carried on a wave of emotion by their fans,
our mob simply dragged us down.

Can we have 3000 up in Brum cheering us on to victory please
And that's what we will do, and if ever there's evidence we need an area for fans to get behind their team it was last night.
Show any passion and the looks you get are comical from the rug and flask brigade, who by the way are about my age in the main but a hundred years older in the main.
Those calling for JE I think are wide of the mark, they'd have zipped it around them. Battocchio should have replaced Hogg and those who dig out FF what do they expect from a guy whose getting the odd few minutes here and there?
[quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: I think its all been said above by now but here is my 2 pennyworth. Zola your obviously a great man and we realise that your still learning the ropes but your (our) team does need a plan B at least and also a C. After 30 minutes the whole game changed as Palace woke up, what did we do? nothing whatsoever. Vydra was running on empty and FF coming on was very poor to put it kindly. Palace must be kicking themselves as they should have put four or five past us in the 2nd half. no its not a disaster , we got a point and who knows we may have learnt something from it. Final word for the supporters, what a gold plated embarrassment your vocal support was!!!!!!!!!! palace were carried on a wave of emotion by their fans, our mob simply dragged us down. Can we have 3000 up in Brum cheering us on to victory please[/p][/quote]And that's what we will do, and if ever there's evidence we need an area for fans to get behind their team it was last night. Show any passion and the looks you get are comical from the rug and flask brigade, who by the way are about my age in the main but a hundred years older in the main. Those calling for JE I think are wide of the mark, they'd have zipped it around them. Battocchio should have replaced Hogg and those who dig out FF what do they expect from a guy whose getting the odd few minutes here and there? lutondown

10:19am Sat 9 Feb 13

bigthunder says...

Very disappointing and i have to say now i fear under Zola we will not get promoted, sorry and i know i will probably get slaughtered with the " we are top 3 e.t.c e.t.c , but with the players at Zolas disposal that should be the minimum , unfortuntley i fear the manager is a one trick pony , yes the one trick is very good but ....

Once a decent knowledgable manager with a tactical brain susses out this watford team Zola is found wanting

Last night had no answer to the constant palace attacks , no clue how to change it , takes off the only goalscorer that could maybe stretch them at the back , yes he was not his usual self but ... brings on the poor forresiteri or whatever his name is ! clueless and cost us the game with his selfish heads down approach losing possession leading to 2nd goal !!

More examples of Zolas lack of plan b, Blackpool away 2 nil up , appleton changes it , lucky we got a point , Charlton at home "tactical changes " 6 odd changes lose the game, Bristol City the disgraceful changing of the team that night , we lose to bottom team with poorest goalscoring record in league

so sorry Zola needs a plan b and c , we are being gradually sussed out , if plan A does not work , we are in trouble , Holloway was on touchline constantly willing his team on , kicking every ball , Zola sat still doing nothing ,poor !
Very disappointing and i have to say now i fear under Zola we will not get promoted, sorry and i know i will probably get slaughtered with the " we are top 3 e.t.c e.t.c , but with the players at Zolas disposal that should be the minimum , unfortuntley i fear the manager is a one trick pony , yes the one trick is very good but .... Once a decent knowledgable manager with a tactical brain susses out this watford team Zola is found wanting Last night had no answer to the constant palace attacks , no clue how to change it , takes off the only goalscorer that could maybe stretch them at the back , yes he was not his usual self but ... brings on the poor forresiteri or whatever his name is ! clueless and cost us the game with his selfish heads down approach losing possession leading to 2nd goal !! More examples of Zolas lack of plan b, Blackpool away 2 nil up , appleton changes it , lucky we got a point , Charlton at home "tactical changes " 6 odd changes lose the game, Bristol City the disgraceful changing of the team that night , we lose to bottom team with poorest goalscoring record in league so sorry Zola needs a plan b and c , we are being gradually sussed out , if plan A does not work , we are in trouble , Holloway was on touchline constantly willing his team on , kicking every ball , Zola sat still doing nothing ,poor ! bigthunder

11:06am Sat 9 Feb 13

KeithMercer says...

bigthunder wrote:
Very disappointing and i have to say now i fear under Zola we will not get promoted, sorry and i know i will probably get slaughtered with the " we are top 3 e.t.c e.t.c , but with the players at Zolas disposal that should be the minimum , unfortuntley i fear the manager is a one trick pony , yes the one trick is very good but ....

Once a decent knowledgable manager with a tactical brain susses out this watford team Zola is found wanting

Last night had no answer to the constant palace attacks , no clue how to change it , takes off the only goalscorer that could maybe stretch them at the back , yes he was not his usual self but ... brings on the poor forresiteri or whatever his name is ! clueless and cost us the game with his selfish heads down approach losing possession leading to 2nd goal !!

More examples of Zolas lack of plan b, Blackpool away 2 nil up , appleton changes it , lucky we got a point , Charlton at home "tactical changes " 6 odd changes lose the game, Bristol City the disgraceful changing of the team that night , we lose to bottom team with poorest goalscoring record in league

so sorry Zola needs a plan b and c , we are being gradually sussed out , if plan A does not work , we are in trouble , Holloway was on touchline constantly willing his team on , kicking every ball , Zola sat still doing nothing ,poor !
Some of this stuff is rubbish Big T and well you know it in particular the last couple of sentences. You wrote a really good post on the other subject of Hollowheads comments and obviously we cant all agree on everything but its a shame to hear you go down the negative route and focus on the negatives.
Would like to hear Chris Bottom,Holtonian and duffmans perspective on last nights proceedings .
Also does anyone know what the problem was with the Red Lion last night ? not keen on draught Budweiser.
[quote][p][bold]bigthunder[/bold] wrote: Very disappointing and i have to say now i fear under Zola we will not get promoted, sorry and i know i will probably get slaughtered with the " we are top 3 e.t.c e.t.c , but with the players at Zolas disposal that should be the minimum , unfortuntley i fear the manager is a one trick pony , yes the one trick is very good but .... Once a decent knowledgable manager with a tactical brain susses out this watford team Zola is found wanting Last night had no answer to the constant palace attacks , no clue how to change it , takes off the only goalscorer that could maybe stretch them at the back , yes he was not his usual self but ... brings on the poor forresiteri or whatever his name is ! clueless and cost us the game with his selfish heads down approach losing possession leading to 2nd goal !! More examples of Zolas lack of plan b, Blackpool away 2 nil up , appleton changes it , lucky we got a point , Charlton at home "tactical changes " 6 odd changes lose the game, Bristol City the disgraceful changing of the team that night , we lose to bottom team with poorest goalscoring record in league so sorry Zola needs a plan b and c , we are being gradually sussed out , if plan A does not work , we are in trouble , Holloway was on touchline constantly willing his team on , kicking every ball , Zola sat still doing nothing ,poor ![/p][/quote]Some of this stuff is rubbish Big T and well you know it in particular the last couple of sentences. You wrote a really good post on the other subject of Hollowheads comments and obviously we cant all agree on everything but its a shame to hear you go down the negative route and focus on the negatives. Would like to hear Chris Bottom,Holtonian and duffmans perspective on last nights proceedings . Also does anyone know what the problem was with the Red Lion last night ? not keen on draught Budweiser. KeithMercer

12:28pm Sat 9 Feb 13

mk6 hornet says...

Firstly well done palace and there fans who were immense.
We really need a singing section also whose idea was it to sell them clappy stick i had row of ten to 12 year olds clapping them things all game and whats with harry the hornet banging the drum trying to drum up the crowd(Excuse the pun) it is embarrassing are a laughing stock around the country when it comes to our vocal efforts what is the problem.
Firstly well done palace and there fans who were immense. We really need a singing section also whose idea was it to sell them clappy stick i had row of ten to 12 year olds clapping them things all game and whats with harry the hornet banging the drum trying to drum up the crowd(Excuse the pun) it is embarrassing are a laughing stock around the country when it comes to our vocal efforts what is the problem. mk6 hornet

12:47pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Only 2 Ross Jenkins says...

bigthunder wrote:
Very disappointing and i have to say now i fear under Zola we will not get promoted, sorry and i know i will probably get slaughtered with the " we are top 3 e.t.c e.t.c , but with the players at Zolas disposal that should be the minimum , unfortuntley i fear the manager is a one trick pony , yes the one trick is very good but ....

Once a decent knowledgable manager with a tactical brain susses out this watford team Zola is found wanting

Last night had no answer to the constant palace attacks , no clue how to change it , takes off the only goalscorer that could maybe stretch them at the back , yes he was not his usual self but ... brings on the poor forresiteri or whatever his name is ! clueless and cost us the game with his selfish heads down approach losing possession leading to 2nd goal !!

More examples of Zolas lack of plan b, Blackpool away 2 nil up , appleton changes it , lucky we got a point , Charlton at home "tactical changes " 6 odd changes lose the game, Bristol City the disgraceful changing of the team that night , we lose to bottom team with poorest goalscoring record in league

so sorry Zola needs a plan b and c , we are being gradually sussed out , if plan A does not work , we are in trouble , Holloway was on touchline constantly willing his team on , kicking every ball , Zola sat still doing nothing ,poor !
Dear oh dear. You can forget the first 8 or 10 games of this season for reasons we all know. So based on the last 20 odd games I am fairly sure we are either the form team or the 2nd best. Yeah, Zola clearly is useless. Ship him out!
[quote][p][bold]bigthunder[/bold] wrote: Very disappointing and i have to say now i fear under Zola we will not get promoted, sorry and i know i will probably get slaughtered with the " we are top 3 e.t.c e.t.c , but with the players at Zolas disposal that should be the minimum , unfortuntley i fear the manager is a one trick pony , yes the one trick is very good but .... Once a decent knowledgable manager with a tactical brain susses out this watford team Zola is found wanting Last night had no answer to the constant palace attacks , no clue how to change it , takes off the only goalscorer that could maybe stretch them at the back , yes he was not his usual self but ... brings on the poor forresiteri or whatever his name is ! clueless and cost us the game with his selfish heads down approach losing possession leading to 2nd goal !! More examples of Zolas lack of plan b, Blackpool away 2 nil up , appleton changes it , lucky we got a point , Charlton at home "tactical changes " 6 odd changes lose the game, Bristol City the disgraceful changing of the team that night , we lose to bottom team with poorest goalscoring record in league so sorry Zola needs a plan b and c , we are being gradually sussed out , if plan A does not work , we are in trouble , Holloway was on touchline constantly willing his team on , kicking every ball , Zola sat still doing nothing ,poor ![/p][/quote]Dear oh dear. You can forget the first 8 or 10 games of this season for reasons we all know. So based on the last 20 odd games I am fairly sure we are either the form team or the 2nd best. Yeah, Zola clearly is useless. Ship him out! Only 2 Ross Jenkins

12:48pm Sat 9 Feb 13

JonBoy says...

Mangoputney wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harrydownunder wrote:
Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul




arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered.
I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle.
Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often.
Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do.
And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.
The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)
If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters
[quote][p][bold]Mangoputney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"[/p][/quote]He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered. I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle. Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often. Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do. And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.[/p][/quote]The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)[/p][/quote]If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters JonBoy

12:54pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

JonBoy wrote:
Mangoputney wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harrydownunder wrote:
Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul





arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered.
I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle.
Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often.
Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do.
And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.
The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)
If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters
I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without.
We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.
[quote][p][bold]JonBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mangoputney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"[/p][/quote]He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered. I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle. Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often. Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do. And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.[/p][/quote]The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)[/p][/quote]If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters[/p][/quote]I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without. We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury. lutondown

12:57pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Only 2 Ross Jenkins says...

mk6 hornet wrote:
Firstly well done palace and there fans who were immense.
We really need a singing section also whose idea was it to sell them clappy stick i had row of ten to 12 year olds clapping them things all game and whats with harry the hornet banging the drum trying to drum up the crowd(Excuse the pun) it is embarrassing are a laughing stock around the country when it comes to our vocal efforts what is the problem.
We are some of the quietest fans in the league. I seriously do think that some fans think they have gone to the theatre and not a football match. When we do sing, some of the chants are just embarrassing (but better than nowt I guess). The club HAS to address this by introducing unreserved seating, pay on the day turnstiles to get the crowds up. And the fans, well, we all need to grow some balls and be loud and proud for our team. Through thick and thin. Our support 2nd half was atrocious, beyond belief. We should all be ashamed of ourselves. EVERYONE is responsible.
[quote][p][bold]mk6 hornet[/bold] wrote: Firstly well done palace and there fans who were immense. We really need a singing section also whose idea was it to sell them clappy stick i had row of ten to 12 year olds clapping them things all game and whats with harry the hornet banging the drum trying to drum up the crowd(Excuse the pun) it is embarrassing are a laughing stock around the country when it comes to our vocal efforts what is the problem.[/p][/quote]We are some of the quietest fans in the league. I seriously do think that some fans think they have gone to the theatre and not a football match. When we do sing, some of the chants are just embarrassing (but better than nowt I guess). The club HAS to address this by introducing unreserved seating, pay on the day turnstiles to get the crowds up. And the fans, well, we all need to grow some balls and be loud and proud for our team. Through thick and thin. Our support 2nd half was atrocious, beyond belief. We should all be ashamed of ourselves. EVERYONE is responsible. Only 2 Ross Jenkins

1:13pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote:
mk6 hornet wrote:
Firstly well done palace and there fans who were immense.
We really need a singing section also whose idea was it to sell them clappy stick i had row of ten to 12 year olds clapping them things all game and whats with harry the hornet banging the drum trying to drum up the crowd(Excuse the pun) it is embarrassing are a laughing stock around the country when it comes to our vocal efforts what is the problem.
We are some of the quietest fans in the league. I seriously do think that some fans think they have gone to the theatre and not a football match. When we do sing, some of the chants are just embarrassing (but better than nowt I guess). The club HAS to address this by introducing unreserved seating, pay on the day turnstiles to get the crowds up. And the fans, well, we all need to grow some balls and be loud and proud for our team. Through thick and thin. Our support 2nd half was atrocious, beyond belief. We should all be ashamed of ourselves. EVERYONE is responsible.
I agree except not all of us were responsible, I for one.
[quote][p][bold]Only 2 Ross Jenkins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mk6 hornet[/bold] wrote: Firstly well done palace and there fans who were immense. We really need a singing section also whose idea was it to sell them clappy stick i had row of ten to 12 year olds clapping them things all game and whats with harry the hornet banging the drum trying to drum up the crowd(Excuse the pun) it is embarrassing are a laughing stock around the country when it comes to our vocal efforts what is the problem.[/p][/quote]We are some of the quietest fans in the league. I seriously do think that some fans think they have gone to the theatre and not a football match. When we do sing, some of the chants are just embarrassing (but better than nowt I guess). The club HAS to address this by introducing unreserved seating, pay on the day turnstiles to get the crowds up. And the fans, well, we all need to grow some balls and be loud and proud for our team. Through thick and thin. Our support 2nd half was atrocious, beyond belief. We should all be ashamed of ourselves. EVERYONE is responsible.[/p][/quote]I agree except not all of us were responsible, I for one. lutondown

1:15pm Sat 9 Feb 13

mk6 hornet says...

Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote:
mk6 hornet wrote:
Firstly well done palace and there fans who were immense.
We really need a singing section also whose idea was it to sell them clappy stick i had row of ten to 12 year olds clapping them things all game and whats with harry the hornet banging the drum trying to drum up the crowd(Excuse the pun) it is embarrassing are a laughing stock around the country when it comes to our vocal efforts what is the problem.
We are some of the quietest fans in the league. I seriously do think that some fans think they have gone to the theatre and not a football match. When we do sing, some of the chants are just embarrassing (but better than nowt I guess). The club HAS to address this by introducing unreserved seating, pay on the day turnstiles to get the crowds up. And the fans, well, we all need to grow some balls and be loud and proud for our team. Through thick and thin. Our support 2nd half was atrocious, beyond belief. We should all be ashamed of ourselves. EVERYONE is responsible.
100% Agree with everything you said our away support is ok vocally a few more in terms of numbers would be nice.
[quote][p][bold]Only 2 Ross Jenkins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mk6 hornet[/bold] wrote: Firstly well done palace and there fans who were immense. We really need a singing section also whose idea was it to sell them clappy stick i had row of ten to 12 year olds clapping them things all game and whats with harry the hornet banging the drum trying to drum up the crowd(Excuse the pun) it is embarrassing are a laughing stock around the country when it comes to our vocal efforts what is the problem.[/p][/quote]We are some of the quietest fans in the league. I seriously do think that some fans think they have gone to the theatre and not a football match. When we do sing, some of the chants are just embarrassing (but better than nowt I guess). The club HAS to address this by introducing unreserved seating, pay on the day turnstiles to get the crowds up. And the fans, well, we all need to grow some balls and be loud and proud for our team. Through thick and thin. Our support 2nd half was atrocious, beyond belief. We should all be ashamed of ourselves. EVERYONE is responsible.[/p][/quote]100% Agree with everything you said our away support is ok vocally a few more in terms of numbers would be nice. mk6 hornet

2:26pm Sat 9 Feb 13

@ChrisBottom16 says...

lutondown wrote:
JonBoy wrote:
Mangoputney wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harrydownunder wrote:
Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul






arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered.
I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle.
Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often.
Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do.
And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.
The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)
If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters
I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without.
We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.
Hello Jon.

You Can't have read What Mango said.

He said he does not like some of our fan's. He did not say he does not like the football.

From day one Mango has been right behind the Pozzo ethos, the player's and Zola. I know this because i sit next to him at every home game and reckon we have done at least half the away game's so far.

Away from home our fan's are top draw. At away game's it's the same old face's. That create's an atmosphere as people who travel are willing to get involved and make our player's proud of us.

At home game's, too many people expect thing's to be spoon fed to them. To many of our fan's are stuck in 1980 with good old GT. This is 2013. We have the best owner's and player's the club has ever had and given time Zola will be the best manager we have ever had. We should be showing our support and showing how gratefull we are to be treated to what the Pozzo's have given us.

We support our club and we are proud to stand up and sing, shout and get pumped up.

What is not ok is for the majority who go to sit there and only make a noise when a pass is misplaced or a shot missed. On Geijo's debut the bloke next to me said he was rubbish and the worst player he had ever seen. He had been on the pitch for 5 minute's.

I call on the real fan's to stand up and make a noise. If anyone tell's you to sit down and not to make a noise i urge you to confront them and stick to what you want to do. The sooner this club get's rid of the boring stiff's, the better.

Jon, read Mango's piece again and this time properly.

I think you will find you actually agree with him.

Chris
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JonBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mangoputney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"[/p][/quote]He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered. I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle. Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often. Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do. And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.[/p][/quote]The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)[/p][/quote]If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters[/p][/quote]I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without. We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.[/p][/quote]Hello Jon. You Can't have read What Mango said. He said he does not like some of our fan's. He did not say he does not like the football. From day one Mango has been right behind the Pozzo ethos, the player's and Zola. I know this because i sit next to him at every home game and reckon we have done at least half the away game's so far. Away from home our fan's are top draw. At away game's it's the same old face's. That create's an atmosphere as people who travel are willing to get involved and make our player's proud of us. At home game's, too many people expect thing's to be spoon fed to them. To many of our fan's are stuck in 1980 with good old GT. This is 2013. We have the best owner's and player's the club has ever had and given time Zola will be the best manager we have ever had. We should be showing our support and showing how gratefull we are to be treated to what the Pozzo's have given us. We support our club and we are proud to stand up and sing, shout and get pumped up. What is not ok is for the majority who go to sit there and only make a noise when a pass is misplaced or a shot missed. On Geijo's debut the bloke next to me said he was rubbish and the worst player he had ever seen. He had been on the pitch for 5 minute's. I call on the real fan's to stand up and make a noise. If anyone tell's you to sit down and not to make a noise i urge you to confront them and stick to what you want to do. The sooner this club get's rid of the boring stiff's, the better. Jon, read Mango's piece again and this time properly. I think you will find you actually agree with him. Chris @ChrisBottom16

2:32pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Hampshire hornet says...

lutondown wrote:
JonBoy wrote:
Mangoputney wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harrydownunder wrote:
Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul






arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered.
I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle.
Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often.
Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do.
And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.
The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)
If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters
I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without.
We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.
JonBoy... I guess you are one of the majority who sits the whole match, tuts and moans every time a misplaced pass is made, or a tackle mistimed, in fact are you the bloke who sits next to me moaning he whole match that we pass the ball too much., Chalobah gives the ball away too easily (did you see him drop his shoulder and wrong foot 3 Palarse players?), FF should never play for us...? Apparently he is 'useless'.I guess these comments apply to many, I do think that we can do without your sort...I would rather 6/8000 passionate fans who make the Vic a fortress than near 13k who have just come for an afternoon or evening away from the TV at home..,. Hate to judge, your post is a joke, Mango is an avid supporter who is always behind the team, you 'Sir' I think has just come on here to stir it up.
Fair play to the guys in the Vic rd end who tried to start a few songs... Sadly we are made to feel awkward and we are an embarrassment.
I deliberately stood up at every opportunity during the match... To all around me that became pi55ed off ... Well pi55 off...
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JonBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mangoputney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"[/p][/quote]He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered. I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle. Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often. Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do. And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.[/p][/quote]The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)[/p][/quote]If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters[/p][/quote]I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without. We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.[/p][/quote]JonBoy... I guess you are one of the majority who sits the whole match, tuts and moans every time a misplaced pass is made, or a tackle mistimed, in fact are you the bloke who sits next to me moaning he whole match that we pass the ball too much., Chalobah gives the ball away too easily (did you see him drop his shoulder and wrong foot 3 Palarse players?), FF should never play for us...? Apparently he is 'useless'.I guess these comments apply to many, I do think that we can do without your sort...I would rather 6/8000 passionate fans who make the Vic a fortress than near 13k who have just come for an afternoon or evening away from the TV at home..,. Hate to judge, your post is a joke, Mango is an avid supporter who is always behind the team, you 'Sir' I think has just come on here to stir it up. Fair play to the guys in the Vic rd end who tried to start a few songs... Sadly we are made to feel awkward and we are an embarrassment. I deliberately stood up at every opportunity during the match... To all around me that became pi55ed off ... Well pi55 off... Hampshire hornet

2:42pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Chris and Hamps bang on
Chris and Hamps bang on lutondown

3:11pm Sat 9 Feb 13

KeithMercer says...

Echo that !
Echo that ! KeithMercer

3:11pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Willow23 says...

Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun.
Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides.
Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put
They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo...
Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that
Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun. Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides. Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo... Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that Willow23

3:16pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Willow23 wrote:
Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun.
Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides.
Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put
They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo...
Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that
And I think you are one of a legion of fans who we need to somehow find a way to make it easier to watch games on ad hoc basis.
Being an ST holder does not make someone a better fan than those who can only attend a few games through circumstances.
That stand sounds spot on and the Rug and flask brigade must be barred from entering.
[quote][p][bold]Willow23[/bold] wrote: Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun. Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides. Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo... Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that[/p][/quote]And I think you are one of a legion of fans who we need to somehow find a way to make it easier to watch games on ad hoc basis. Being an ST holder does not make someone a better fan than those who can only attend a few games through circumstances. That stand sounds spot on and the Rug and flask brigade must be barred from entering. lutondown

3:31pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Willow23 says...

lutondown wrote:
Willow23 wrote:
Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun.
Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides.
Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put
They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo...
Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that
And I think you are one of a legion of fans who we need to somehow find a way to make it easier to watch games on ad hoc basis.
Being an ST holder does not make someone a better fan than those who can only attend a few games through circumstances.
That stand sounds spot on and the Rug and flask brigade must be barred from entering.
Vic road end whole stand away fans
Lower rous family stand
Upper rous for investment bankers etc
Rookery for season ticket holders
New east stand nothing flash just a standard stand of about 5k taking total up to about 22k
For pay on day over 18 unreserved seating gives everyone a choice and then maybe the like minded people can find their place and everyone will be happy?
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willow23[/bold] wrote: Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun. Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides. Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo... Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that[/p][/quote]And I think you are one of a legion of fans who we need to somehow find a way to make it easier to watch games on ad hoc basis. Being an ST holder does not make someone a better fan than those who can only attend a few games through circumstances. That stand sounds spot on and the Rug and flask brigade must be barred from entering.[/p][/quote]Vic road end whole stand away fans Lower rous family stand Upper rous for investment bankers etc Rookery for season ticket holders New east stand nothing flash just a standard stand of about 5k taking total up to about 22k For pay on day over 18 unreserved seating gives everyone a choice and then maybe the like minded people can find their place and everyone will be happy? Willow23

3:35pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Willow23 wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Willow23 wrote:
Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun.
Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides.
Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put
They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo...
Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that
And I think you are one of a legion of fans who we need to somehow find a way to make it easier to watch games on ad hoc basis.
Being an ST holder does not make someone a better fan than those who can only attend a few games through circumstances.
That stand sounds spot on and the Rug and flask brigade must be barred from entering.
Vic road end whole stand away fans
Lower rous family stand
Upper rous for investment bankers etc
Rookery for season ticket holders
New east stand nothing flash just a standard stand of about 5k taking total up to about 22k
For pay on day over 18 unreserved seating gives everyone a choice and then maybe the like minded people can find their place and everyone will be happy?
Only one flaw half the Vic will be empty for most games. Other than that couldn't agree more.
[quote][p][bold]Willow23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willow23[/bold] wrote: Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun. Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides. Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo... Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that[/p][/quote]And I think you are one of a legion of fans who we need to somehow find a way to make it easier to watch games on ad hoc basis. Being an ST holder does not make someone a better fan than those who can only attend a few games through circumstances. That stand sounds spot on and the Rug and flask brigade must be barred from entering.[/p][/quote]Vic road end whole stand away fans Lower rous family stand Upper rous for investment bankers etc Rookery for season ticket holders New east stand nothing flash just a standard stand of about 5k taking total up to about 22k For pay on day over 18 unreserved seating gives everyone a choice and then maybe the like minded people can find their place and everyone will be happy?[/p][/quote]Only one flaw half the Vic will be empty for most games. Other than that couldn't agree more. lutondown

3:36pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Mangoputney says...

Willow23 wrote:
Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun.
Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides.
Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put
They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo...
Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that
Yep many of them treat it like its their big day/night out at the theatre 'Thearte Of Mongs'
[quote][p][bold]Willow23[/bold] wrote: Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun. Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides. Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo... Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that[/p][/quote]Yep many of them treat it like its their big day/night out at the theatre 'Thearte Of Mongs' Mangoputney

3:36pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Mangoputney says...

Willow23 wrote:
Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun.
Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides.
Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put
They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo...
Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that
Yep many of them treat it like its their big day/night out at the theatre 'Thearte Of Mongs'
[quote][p][bold]Willow23[/bold] wrote: Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun. Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides. Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo... Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that[/p][/quote]Yep many of them treat it like its their big day/night out at the theatre 'Thearte Of Mongs' Mangoputney

3:39pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Hampshire hornet says...

Willow23 wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Willow23 wrote:
Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun.
Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides.
Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put
They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo...
Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that
And I think you are one of a legion of fans who we need to somehow find a way to make it easier to watch games on ad hoc basis.
Being an ST holder does not make someone a better fan than those who can only attend a few games through circumstances.
That stand sounds spot on and the Rug and flask brigade must be barred from entering.
Vic road end whole stand away fans
Lower rous family stand
Upper rous for investment bankers etc
Rookery for season ticket holders
New east stand nothing flash just a standard stand of about 5k taking total up to about 22k
For pay on day over 18 unreserved seating gives everyone a choice and then maybe the like minded people can find their place and everyone will be happy?
Why give the away support a decent view/ stand... Stick our die hards next to the away support..let's have a sing off...as mentioned many times.. Watford take note... Have Vic rd end pay on the day or ticket unreserved area , ... Get someone in there with a drum ... Palarse did... They took the Pi55 ... The chant 2-0 and your support is 5hit was a true reflection...
We need to encourage an atmosphere! Even if we try it for the rest of the season!, I know I would like to choose where I stand (sit)
[quote][p][bold]Willow23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willow23[/bold] wrote: Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun. Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides. Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo... Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that[/p][/quote]And I think you are one of a legion of fans who we need to somehow find a way to make it easier to watch games on ad hoc basis. Being an ST holder does not make someone a better fan than those who can only attend a few games through circumstances. That stand sounds spot on and the Rug and flask brigade must be barred from entering.[/p][/quote]Vic road end whole stand away fans Lower rous family stand Upper rous for investment bankers etc Rookery for season ticket holders New east stand nothing flash just a standard stand of about 5k taking total up to about 22k For pay on day over 18 unreserved seating gives everyone a choice and then maybe the like minded people can find their place and everyone will be happy?[/p][/quote]Why give the away support a decent view/ stand... Stick our die hards next to the away support..let's have a sing off...as mentioned many times.. Watford take note... Have Vic rd end pay on the day or ticket unreserved area , ... Get someone in there with a drum ... Palarse did... They took the Pi55 ... The chant 2-0 and your support is 5hit was a true reflection... We need to encourage an atmosphere! Even if we try it for the rest of the season!, I know I would like to choose where I stand (sit) Hampshire hornet

3:41pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Boosey says...

Deeney was pants last night, he looks overweight and ran like a carthorse, he should have been subbed instead of Vydra and I'm a Deeney fan.
I also think Chalobah is a very good player but he believes he is better than he really is, one day he will become that player but sometimes he lacks the discipline required for the midfield and loses concentration which results in losing the ball.
Saying that I would love to see them start the next game.
I actually thought our support in the first half was vocally very good combined with a good display on the pitch but when we started to throw it away you could feel the anxiety creep in.
Whatever happened to the drummer in the Rookery? Maybe he gave up as well!
Deeney was pants last night, he looks overweight and ran like a carthorse, he should have been subbed instead of Vydra and I'm a Deeney fan. I also think Chalobah is a very good player but he believes he is better than he really is, one day he will become that player but sometimes he lacks the discipline required for the midfield and loses concentration which results in losing the ball. Saying that I would love to see them start the next game. I actually thought our support in the first half was vocally very good combined with a good display on the pitch but when we started to throw it away you could feel the anxiety creep in. Whatever happened to the drummer in the Rookery? Maybe he gave up as well! Boosey

3:57pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Willow23 says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
Willow23 wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Willow23 wrote:
Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun.
Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides.
Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put
They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo...
Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that
And I think you are one of a legion of fans who we need to somehow find a way to make it easier to watch games on ad hoc basis.
Being an ST holder does not make someone a better fan than those who can only attend a few games through circumstances.
That stand sounds spot on and the Rug and flask brigade must be barred from entering.
Vic road end whole stand away fans
Lower rous family stand
Upper rous for investment bankers etc
Rookery for season ticket holders
New east stand nothing flash just a standard stand of about 5k taking total up to about 22k
For pay on day over 18 unreserved seating gives everyone a choice and then maybe the like minded people can find their place and everyone will be happy?
Why give the away support a decent view/ stand... Stick our die hards next to the away support..let's have a sing off...as mentioned many times.. Watford take note... Have Vic rd end pay on the day or ticket unreserved area , ... Get someone in there with a drum ... Palarse did... They took the Pi55 ... The chant 2-0 and your support is 5hit was a true reflection...
We need to encourage an atmosphere! Even if we try it for the rest of the season!, I know I would like to choose where I stand (sit)
Only because of where we wanna be will need us to give a better away allocation and then it will alow the rest of the stadium to maybe fill up a bit... So if the away end is only half full it makes the away teams fans look ****.
I'm only saying do that though if and when the new east stand is made.
We used to get 19-20k all the time we could again if they just made some sensible choices instead of trying to force us this family club tag... I'm all for kids coming to the games but they can go in the family stand like I used to go when I was a kid in the family terrace.... Wouldn't dream of going in the vicarage terrace back then would have been trampled to death by some angry printer/brewer.
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willow23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willow23[/bold] wrote: Just watched the game as i worked last night. Would have made a rare appearance if I hadn't been but what I heard on the tv justified in my head why I stopped going.... £25 to sit in the cold in what can only be described as a morgue is not my idea of fun. Loved going back when the ground rocked, back when you wasn't told where to sit, back when if you wanted to sing you got there an hour before kick off with all the others at the back and the flask and blanket brigade sat at the front or the sides. Even when they was two goals down the palace fans were all you could hear, as I am sure our fans are when we play away as others have put They in my humble opinion should if they ever bother make a new east stand pay on the day unreservered seating and maybe over 18 only I know you have to have the future fans but I also would like to go to a game scream and shout and swear without getting dirty looks and with like minded working blokes something that seams to be lacking at the mo... Everyone will probably slate me saying how can I have an opinion if I don't go etc but I would and so would loads of people I know if it was like that[/p][/quote]And I think you are one of a legion of fans who we need to somehow find a way to make it easier to watch games on ad hoc basis. Being an ST holder does not make someone a better fan than those who can only attend a few games through circumstances. That stand sounds spot on and the Rug and flask brigade must be barred from entering.[/p][/quote]Vic road end whole stand away fans Lower rous family stand Upper rous for investment bankers etc Rookery for season ticket holders New east stand nothing flash just a standard stand of about 5k taking total up to about 22k For pay on day over 18 unreserved seating gives everyone a choice and then maybe the like minded people can find their place and everyone will be happy?[/p][/quote]Why give the away support a decent view/ stand... Stick our die hards next to the away support..let's have a sing off...as mentioned many times.. Watford take note... Have Vic rd end pay on the day or ticket unreserved area , ... Get someone in there with a drum ... Palarse did... They took the Pi55 ... The chant 2-0 and your support is 5hit was a true reflection... We need to encourage an atmosphere! Even if we try it for the rest of the season!, I know I would like to choose where I stand (sit)[/p][/quote]Only because of where we wanna be will need us to give a better away allocation and then it will alow the rest of the stadium to maybe fill up a bit... So if the away end is only half full it makes the away teams fans look ****. I'm only saying do that though if and when the new east stand is made. We used to get 19-20k all the time we could again if they just made some sensible choices instead of trying to force us this family club tag... I'm all for kids coming to the games but they can go in the family stand like I used to go when I was a kid in the family terrace.... Wouldn't dream of going in the vicarage terrace back then would have been trampled to death by some angry printer/brewer. Willow23

4:00pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Hampshire hornet says...

Wasn't a criticism.. Just a thought.. My two boys 10 and 5 both sing away at the games.. I would be happy to have them in a vocal area..swearing or not
Wasn't a criticism.. Just a thought.. My two boys 10 and 5 both sing away at the games.. I would be happy to have them in a vocal area..swearing or not Hampshire hornet

4:01pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Hampshire hornet says...

Not my kids.. The support around us!
Not my kids.. The support around us! Hampshire hornet

4:02pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Boosey wrote:
Deeney was pants last night, he looks overweight and ran like a carthorse, he should have been subbed instead of Vydra and I'm a Deeney fan.
I also think Chalobah is a very good player but he believes he is better than he really is, one day he will become that player but sometimes he lacks the discipline required for the midfield and loses concentration which results in losing the ball.
Saying that I would love to see them start the next game.
I actually thought our support in the first half was vocally very good combined with a good display on the pitch but when we started to throw it away you could feel the anxiety creep in.
Whatever happened to the drummer in the Rookery? Maybe he gave up as well!
Agree, but I think there is an under the surface tension with those who want to be vocal in their support opposed to those who wish to have their picnics in silence.
It's not a good mix and we need our separate areas as we've said.
Just a bit miffed if the change had to take place, I'd have put Battocchio in earlier for Hogg, Geijo for Deeney and Fessi added to the mix.
God it still feels like a loss!
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: Deeney was pants last night, he looks overweight and ran like a carthorse, he should have been subbed instead of Vydra and I'm a Deeney fan. I also think Chalobah is a very good player but he believes he is better than he really is, one day he will become that player but sometimes he lacks the discipline required for the midfield and loses concentration which results in losing the ball. Saying that I would love to see them start the next game. I actually thought our support in the first half was vocally very good combined with a good display on the pitch but when we started to throw it away you could feel the anxiety creep in. Whatever happened to the drummer in the Rookery? Maybe he gave up as well![/p][/quote]Agree, but I think there is an under the surface tension with those who want to be vocal in their support opposed to those who wish to have their picnics in silence. It's not a good mix and we need our separate areas as we've said. Just a bit miffed if the change had to take place, I'd have put Battocchio in earlier for Hogg, Geijo for Deeney and Fessi added to the mix. God it still feels like a loss! lutondown

4:04pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
Not my kids.. The support around us!
I think the 18 and over was meant at sensitive parents!
Have you had any luck in getting moved from Vic Rd end?
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: Not my kids.. The support around us![/p][/quote]I think the 18 and over was meant at sensitive parents! Have you had any luck in getting moved from Vic Rd end? lutondown

4:08pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Willow23 says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
Wasn't a criticism.. Just a thought.. My two boys 10 and 5 both sing away at the games.. I would be happy to have them in a vocal area..swearing or not
Yeah I'm not saying I have all the answers and I doubt anything will change anyway I just know that even though we are playing some brilliant football there aint a flood of fans wanting to come to the games and the reason I don't go is probably the same as a for a lot of people of my age group (25-35)
To be honest I couldn't care less what football we was playing if I went to a game with a brilliant atmosphere. Just seems to me like they have a good plan for the football and that but no plan how to get the fans back
Anyway these are the ramblings of someone who hasn't even been this season so are probably not valid
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: Wasn't a criticism.. Just a thought.. My two boys 10 and 5 both sing away at the games.. I would be happy to have them in a vocal area..swearing or not[/p][/quote]Yeah I'm not saying I have all the answers and I doubt anything will change anyway I just know that even though we are playing some brilliant football there aint a flood of fans wanting to come to the games and the reason I don't go is probably the same as a for a lot of people of my age group (25-35) To be honest I couldn't care less what football we was playing if I went to a game with a brilliant atmosphere. Just seems to me like they have a good plan for the football and that but no plan how to get the fans back Anyway these are the ramblings of someone who hasn't even been this season so are probably not valid Willow23

4:11pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Chris the Vic says...

A point won.

With the International calls effecting so many of our players and so few of theirs the game should not have been played on Friday night.

No Nosworthy, a worn out Hoban...not helped by stupid uncaring international management, a jet lagged Vydra I think we did well.

As for the idiot Holloway...is he suggesting it is right they sell Zaha, get the money and him back wages paid. We had Almunia, Doyley, Hoban, Hogg, Deeney and Hall with 5 borrowed players. He had Zaha,Dobbin and Kevin P all on loan or s/term signings and few call ups and yet he deems we have an unfair advantage...what a whinger.
A point won. With the International calls effecting so many of our players and so few of theirs the game should not have been played on Friday night. No Nosworthy, a worn out Hoban...not helped by stupid uncaring international management, a jet lagged Vydra I think we did well. As for the idiot Holloway...is he suggesting it is right they sell Zaha, get the money and him back wages paid. We had Almunia, Doyley, Hoban, Hogg, Deeney and Hall with 5 borrowed players. He had Zaha,Dobbin and Kevin P all on loan or s/term signings and few call ups and yet he deems we have an unfair advantage...what a whinger. Chris the Vic

4:12pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Willow23 says...

lutondown wrote:
Hampshire hornet wrote:
Not my kids.. The support around us!
I think the 18 and over was meant at sensitive parents!
Have you had any luck in getting moved from Vic Rd end?
Yeah like you could have a sign saying under 18's must be with an adult and enter at their own risk.... Parents who are happy for their kids to sample some real atmosphere will be like yeah that's fine sensitive parents will think nah I will go in the family stand
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: Not my kids.. The support around us![/p][/quote]I think the 18 and over was meant at sensitive parents! Have you had any luck in getting moved from Vic Rd end?[/p][/quote]Yeah like you could have a sign saying under 18's must be with an adult and enter at their own risk.... Parents who are happy for their kids to sample some real atmosphere will be like yeah that's fine sensitive parents will think nah I will go in the family stand Willow23

4:13pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Boosey says...

Don't allow O'Malley to be cheerleader, we would all be asleep by time he got the first words out!
Don't allow O'Malley to be cheerleader, we would all be asleep by time he got the first words out! Boosey

4:33pm Sat 9 Feb 13

KeithMercer says...

Bang Bang Bang Bang AL BANGURA
good to see the boy still knows where his loyalties lie.
Bang Bang Bang Bang AL BANGURA good to see the boy still knows where his loyalties lie. KeithMercer

4:52pm Sat 9 Feb 13

KeithMercer says...

Now looking like a point gained last night my friends !
Those of you on here that expect to win every game and slaughter the manager when we dont have a look at this afternoons results .
Now looking like a point gained last night my friends ! Those of you on here that expect to win every game and slaughter the manager when we dont have a look at this afternoons results . KeithMercer

4:55pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Hampshire hornet says...

ZOLA Is a God, he foresaw the Saturday results, he just wants to keep the league interesting.. No point in running away with it...
ZOLA Is a God, he foresaw the Saturday results, he just wants to keep the league interesting.. No point in running away with it... Hampshire hornet

4:55pm Sat 9 Feb 13

JonBoy says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
lutondown wrote:
JonBoy wrote:
Mangoputney wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harrydownunder wrote:
Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul







arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered.
I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle.
Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often.
Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do.
And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.
The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)
If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters
I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without.
We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.
JonBoy... I guess you are one of the majority who sits the whole match, tuts and moans every time a misplaced pass is made, or a tackle mistimed, in fact are you the bloke who sits next to me moaning he whole match that we pass the ball too much., Chalobah gives the ball away too easily (did you see him drop his shoulder and wrong foot 3 Palarse players?), FF should never play for us...? Apparently he is 'useless'.I guess these comments apply to many, I do think that we can do without your sort...I would rather 6/8000 passionate fans who make the Vic a fortress than near 13k who have just come for an afternoon or evening away from the TV at home..,. Hate to judge, your post is a joke, Mango is an avid supporter who is always behind the team, you 'Sir' I think has just come on here to stir it up.
Fair play to the guys in the Vic rd end who tried to start a few songs... Sadly we are made to feel awkward and we are an embarrassment.
I deliberately stood up at every opportunity during the match... To all around me that became pi55ed off ... Well pi55 off...
funny man :-)
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JonBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mangoputney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"[/p][/quote]He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered. I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle. Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often. Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do. And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.[/p][/quote]The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)[/p][/quote]If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters[/p][/quote]I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without. We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.[/p][/quote]JonBoy... I guess you are one of the majority who sits the whole match, tuts and moans every time a misplaced pass is made, or a tackle mistimed, in fact are you the bloke who sits next to me moaning he whole match that we pass the ball too much., Chalobah gives the ball away too easily (did you see him drop his shoulder and wrong foot 3 Palarse players?), FF should never play for us...? Apparently he is 'useless'.I guess these comments apply to many, I do think that we can do without your sort...I would rather 6/8000 passionate fans who make the Vic a fortress than near 13k who have just come for an afternoon or evening away from the TV at home..,. Hate to judge, your post is a joke, Mango is an avid supporter who is always behind the team, you 'Sir' I think has just come on here to stir it up. Fair play to the guys in the Vic rd end who tried to start a few songs... Sadly we are made to feel awkward and we are an embarrassment. I deliberately stood up at every opportunity during the match... To all around me that became pi55ed off ... Well pi55 off...[/p][/quote]funny man :-) JonBoy

5:01pm Sat 9 Feb 13

JonBoy says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
lutondown wrote:
JonBoy wrote:
Mangoputney wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harrydownunder wrote:
Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul







arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered.
I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle.
Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often.
Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do.
And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.
The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)
If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters
I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without.
We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.
JonBoy... I guess you are one of the majority who sits the whole match, tuts and moans every time a misplaced pass is made, or a tackle mistimed, in fact are you the bloke who sits next to me moaning he whole match that we pass the ball too much., Chalobah gives the ball away too easily (did you see him drop his shoulder and wrong foot 3 Palarse players?), FF should never play for us...? Apparently he is 'useless'.I guess these comments apply to many, I do think that we can do without your sort...I would rather 6/8000 passionate fans who make the Vic a fortress than near 13k who have just come for an afternoon or evening away from the TV at home..,. Hate to judge, your post is a joke, Mango is an avid supporter who is always behind the team, you 'Sir' I think has just come on here to stir it up.
Fair play to the guys in the Vic rd end who tried to start a few songs... Sadly we are made to feel awkward and we are an embarrassment.
I deliberately stood up at every opportunity during the match... To all around me that became pi55ed off ... Well pi55 off...
It's a good job we have wise people running the club . Grow up and accept that not everyone is like you and the club is for everyone.
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JonBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mangoputney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"[/p][/quote]He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered. I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle. Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often. Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do. And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.[/p][/quote]The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)[/p][/quote]If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters[/p][/quote]I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without. We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.[/p][/quote]JonBoy... I guess you are one of the majority who sits the whole match, tuts and moans every time a misplaced pass is made, or a tackle mistimed, in fact are you the bloke who sits next to me moaning he whole match that we pass the ball too much., Chalobah gives the ball away too easily (did you see him drop his shoulder and wrong foot 3 Palarse players?), FF should never play for us...? Apparently he is 'useless'.I guess these comments apply to many, I do think that we can do without your sort...I would rather 6/8000 passionate fans who make the Vic a fortress than near 13k who have just come for an afternoon or evening away from the TV at home..,. Hate to judge, your post is a joke, Mango is an avid supporter who is always behind the team, you 'Sir' I think has just come on here to stir it up. Fair play to the guys in the Vic rd end who tried to start a few songs... Sadly we are made to feel awkward and we are an embarrassment. I deliberately stood up at every opportunity during the match... To all around me that became pi55ed off ... Well pi55 off...[/p][/quote]It's a good job we have wise people running the club . Grow up and accept that not everyone is like you and the club is for everyone. JonBoy

5:02pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Boosey says...

KeithMercer wrote:
Bang Bang Bang Bang AL BANGURA good to see the boy still knows where his loyalties lie.
Yeah well done Al.
[quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: Bang Bang Bang Bang AL BANGURA good to see the boy still knows where his loyalties lie.[/p][/quote]Yeah well done Al. Boosey

5:44pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Hampshire hornet says...

JonBoy wrote:
Hampshire hornet wrote:
lutondown wrote:
JonBoy wrote:
Mangoputney wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harrydownunder wrote:
Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul








arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered.
I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle.
Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often.
Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do.
And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.
The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)
If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters
I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without.
We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.
JonBoy... I guess you are one of the majority who sits the whole match, tuts and moans every time a misplaced pass is made, or a tackle mistimed, in fact are you the bloke who sits next to me moaning he whole match that we pass the ball too much., Chalobah gives the ball away too easily (did you see him drop his shoulder and wrong foot 3 Palarse players?), FF should never play for us...? Apparently he is 'useless'.I guess these comments apply to many, I do think that we can do without your sort...I would rather 6/8000 passionate fans who make the Vic a fortress than near 13k who have just come for an afternoon or evening away from the TV at home..,. Hate to judge, your post is a joke, Mango is an avid supporter who is always behind the team, you 'Sir' I think has just come on here to stir it up.
Fair play to the guys in the Vic rd end who tried to start a few songs... Sadly we are made to feel awkward and we are an embarrassment.
I deliberately stood up at every opportunity during the match... To all around me that became pi55ed off ... Well pi55 off...
It's a good job we have wise people running the club . Grow up and accept that not everyone is like you and the club is for everyone.
Hypocrite.... Are you Mr Holloway?
[quote][p][bold]JonBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JonBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mangoputney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"[/p][/quote]He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered. I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle. Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often. Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do. And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.[/p][/quote]The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)[/p][/quote]If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters[/p][/quote]I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without. We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.[/p][/quote]JonBoy... I guess you are one of the majority who sits the whole match, tuts and moans every time a misplaced pass is made, or a tackle mistimed, in fact are you the bloke who sits next to me moaning he whole match that we pass the ball too much., Chalobah gives the ball away too easily (did you see him drop his shoulder and wrong foot 3 Palarse players?), FF should never play for us...? Apparently he is 'useless'.I guess these comments apply to many, I do think that we can do without your sort...I would rather 6/8000 passionate fans who make the Vic a fortress than near 13k who have just come for an afternoon or evening away from the TV at home..,. Hate to judge, your post is a joke, Mango is an avid supporter who is always behind the team, you 'Sir' I think has just come on here to stir it up. Fair play to the guys in the Vic rd end who tried to start a few songs... Sadly we are made to feel awkward and we are an embarrassment. I deliberately stood up at every opportunity during the match... To all around me that became pi55ed off ... Well pi55 off...[/p][/quote]It's a good job we have wise people running the club . Grow up and accept that not everyone is like you and the club is for everyone.[/p][/quote]Hypocrite.... Are you Mr Holloway? Hampshire hornet

5:56pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Willow23 wrote:
Hampshire hornet wrote:
Wasn't a criticism.. Just a thought.. My two boys 10 and 5 both sing away at the games.. I would be happy to have them in a vocal area..swearing or not
Yeah I'm not saying I have all the answers and I doubt anything will change anyway I just know that even though we are playing some brilliant football there aint a flood of fans wanting to come to the games and the reason I don't go is probably the same as a for a lot of people of my age group (25-35)
To be honest I couldn't care less what football we was playing if I went to a game with a brilliant atmosphere. Just seems to me like they have a good plan for the football and that but no plan how to get the fans back
Anyway these are the ramblings of someone who hasn't even been this season so are probably not valid
No mate more valid than you realise, we need to get you and your ilk back in the Vic. You keep posting them ideas, they are looked at a higher level.
[quote][p][bold]Willow23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: Wasn't a criticism.. Just a thought.. My two boys 10 and 5 both sing away at the games.. I would be happy to have them in a vocal area..swearing or not[/p][/quote]Yeah I'm not saying I have all the answers and I doubt anything will change anyway I just know that even though we are playing some brilliant football there aint a flood of fans wanting to come to the games and the reason I don't go is probably the same as a for a lot of people of my age group (25-35) To be honest I couldn't care less what football we was playing if I went to a game with a brilliant atmosphere. Just seems to me like they have a good plan for the football and that but no plan how to get the fans back Anyway these are the ramblings of someone who hasn't even been this season so are probably not valid[/p][/quote]No mate more valid than you realise, we need to get you and your ilk back in the Vic. You keep posting them ideas, they are looked at a higher level. lutondown

5:57pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Boosey wrote:
Don't allow O'Malley to be cheerleader, we would all be asleep by time he got the first words out!
LOL
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: Don't allow O'Malley to be cheerleader, we would all be asleep by time he got the first words out![/p][/quote]LOL lutondown

5:58pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Boosey wrote:
KeithMercer wrote:
Bang Bang Bang Bang AL BANGURA good to see the boy still knows where his loyalties lie.
Yeah well done Al.
What have I missed?
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: Bang Bang Bang Bang AL BANGURA good to see the boy still knows where his loyalties lie.[/p][/quote]Yeah well done Al.[/p][/quote]What have I missed? lutondown

6:00pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

JonBoy wrote:
Hampshire hornet wrote:
lutondown wrote:
JonBoy wrote:
Mangoputney wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Harrydownunder wrote:
Feff wrote:
2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul








arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.
Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"
He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered.
I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle.
Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often.
Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do.
And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.
The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)
If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters
I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without.
We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.
JonBoy... I guess you are one of the majority who sits the whole match, tuts and moans every time a misplaced pass is made, or a tackle mistimed, in fact are you the bloke who sits next to me moaning he whole match that we pass the ball too much., Chalobah gives the ball away too easily (did you see him drop his shoulder and wrong foot 3 Palarse players?), FF should never play for us...? Apparently he is 'useless'.I guess these comments apply to many, I do think that we can do without your sort...I would rather 6/8000 passionate fans who make the Vic a fortress than near 13k who have just come for an afternoon or evening away from the TV at home..,. Hate to judge, your post is a joke, Mango is an avid supporter who is always behind the team, you 'Sir' I think has just come on here to stir it up.
Fair play to the guys in the Vic rd end who tried to start a few songs... Sadly we are made to feel awkward and we are an embarrassment.
I deliberately stood up at every opportunity during the match... To all around me that became pi55ed off ... Well pi55 off...
It's a good job we have wise people running the club . Grow up and accept that not everyone is like you and the club is for everyone.
And could it be the club actually want more of us? I think so, ask the players how much they enjoy the crowd behind them, look at the momentum Palace built on their support. That's of course if you was awake to witness it.
[quote][p][bold]JonBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JonBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mangoputney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feff[/bold] wrote: 2-0 up after 15 minutes yet lucky to escape with a draw. Perhaps Zola showed his inexperience this evening. He did not really make use of his substitutes,particul arly Battocchio. Perhaps he should have started with Forestieri and Geijo, bringing on the tired Vydra and Deeney in the second half. The defence looked shaky and so did Almunia. Abdi, Chalobah and dear old Doyley were my men of the match for Watford. Hoban also played well. But, I repeat, we were lucky to draw and Zola must learn to use his whole squad.[/p][/quote]Had he done that, everyone would have been screaming about his rotation policy!"[/p][/quote]He can't win. But I'd have Battocchio over Hogg every day, didn't think Deeney had his best and thought Geijo might have been considered. I dislike Olly with a passion, and think his Ollyisms that the media climax over are twaddle. Think Hornet Cornet is on the powder, and think JizzHorns needs to get out more often. Me, I'm depressed at the prospect of the anti brigade expressing their delight at GFZs supposed failure, as they do. And to the bloke who asked me to sit down, don't ever touch my shoulder again.[/p][/quote]The majority of our fans really pi55 me off. They moan when we are doing well. They do not sing when we are doing well. This is a football match FFS Sing & be proud FFS. The 2nd half the players needed our support and they got nothing, nothing at all. pi55 poor support Watford. Surely this is not normal behaviour from 'football fans'. I am sure every club has a few but why have we got circa 10,000 fans with no voice? Are these people real? Our fan base is being compared to the extras from Shaun Of The Dead. 'Your support is fu3king ****' they sing and they are right in the majority of cases. The Pozzo's were there tonight. I wonder what they make of it? Most of the mongs are more interested in what GT would make of it. It's never good when your own supporters embarrass you. Shame on you (if you know you fit any of the above criteria that is!)[/p][/quote]If you don't like what you are seeing at the Vic then pi55 off to the club in Bedfordshire or support Palace who have noisy supporters[/p][/quote]I suggest you take your own advice as its your ilk we could do without. We like what we are seeing football wise, it's the Mongs that are less than savoury.[/p][/quote]JonBoy... I guess you are one of the majority who sits the whole match, tuts and moans every time a misplaced pass is made, or a tackle mistimed, in fact are you the bloke who sits next to me moaning he whole match that we pass the ball too much., Chalobah gives the ball away too easily (did you see him drop his shoulder and wrong foot 3 Palarse players?), FF should never play for us...? Apparently he is 'useless'.I guess these comments apply to many, I do think that we can do without your sort...I would rather 6/8000 passionate fans who make the Vic a fortress than near 13k who have just come for an afternoon or evening away from the TV at home..,. Hate to judge, your post is a joke, Mango is an avid supporter who is always behind the team, you 'Sir' I think has just come on here to stir it up. Fair play to the guys in the Vic rd end who tried to start a few songs... Sadly we are made to feel awkward and we are an embarrassment. I deliberately stood up at every opportunity during the match... To all around me that became pi55ed off ... Well pi55 off...[/p][/quote]It's a good job we have wise people running the club . Grow up and accept that not everyone is like you and the club is for everyone.[/p][/quote]And could it be the club actually want more of us? I think so, ask the players how much they enjoy the crowd behind them, look at the momentum Palace built on their support. That's of course if you was awake to witness it. lutondown

6:16pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Hampshire hornet says...

lutondown wrote:
Boosey wrote:
KeithMercer wrote:
Bang Bang Bang Bang AL BANGURA good to see the boy still knows where his loyalties lie.
Yeah well done Al.
What have I missed?
He was sent off against that non league side up the M1
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: Bang Bang Bang Bang AL BANGURA good to see the boy still knows where his loyalties lie.[/p][/quote]Yeah well done Al.[/p][/quote]What have I missed?[/p][/quote]He was sent off against that non league side up the M1 Hampshire hornet

7:27pm Sat 9 Feb 13

KeithMercer says...

Won £600 on the gee gees ,
all our rivals either lost or in the case of Mactosh skanked a point and Al Bangura gets sent off for violent conduct at Scum town.
Oh if Carlsberg did saturdays this would be one of them !!
Now I wonder where Kelly Brook is hanging out tonight ?
Won £600 on the gee gees , all our rivals either lost or in the case of Mactosh skanked a point and Al Bangura gets sent off for violent conduct at Scum town. Oh if Carlsberg did saturdays this would be one of them !! Now I wonder where Kelly Brook is hanging out tonight ? KeithMercer

12:38am Sun 10 Feb 13

KeithMercer says...

Sorry for being such a smugf**% !!
oh and Kelly wasnt in the Dog and Duck.
Sorry for being such a smugf**% !! oh and Kelly wasnt in the Dog and Duck. KeithMercer

7:40am Sun 10 Feb 13

lutondown says...

KeithMercer wrote:
Won £600 on the gee gees ,
all our rivals either lost or in the case of Mactosh skanked a point and Al Bangura gets sent off for violent conduct at Scum town.
Oh if Carlsberg did saturdays this would be one of them !!
Now I wonder where Kelly Brook is hanging out tonight ?
Kelly Brook? Dream on buddy! But please get out of that same recurring dream of mine!
[quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: Won £600 on the gee gees , all our rivals either lost or in the case of Mactosh skanked a point and Al Bangura gets sent off for violent conduct at Scum town. Oh if Carlsberg did saturdays this would be one of them !! Now I wonder where Kelly Brook is hanging out tonight ?[/p][/quote]Kelly Brook? Dream on buddy! But please get out of that same recurring dream of mine! lutondown

10:07am Sun 10 Feb 13

tommy gunn says...

I really cannot understand people who say they don't go to the game because there is no atmosphere.Yes I realise the crowd at the Vic is not vocal which is a shame but not to go when we are playing the best football in ages is, it seems, hard to understand.I assume these people are not really interested in the game but just go for other reasons unknown to me.
I really cannot understand people who say they don't go to the game because there is no atmosphere.Yes I realise the crowd at the Vic is not vocal which is a shame but not to go when we are playing the best football in ages is, it seems, hard to understand.I assume these people are not really interested in the game but just go for other reasons unknown to me. tommy gunn

12:54pm Sun 10 Feb 13

lutondown says...

tommy gunn wrote:
I really cannot understand people who say they don't go to the game because there is no atmosphere.Yes I realise the crowd at the Vic is not vocal which is a shame but not to go when we are playing the best football in ages is, it seems, hard to understand.I assume these people are not really interested in the game but just go for other reasons unknown to me.
I go home and away, regardless but I remember my first game at the Vic 1971 v Blackburn. I remember the raw noise and energy, I was hooked. I think we won 2-1 but of the game that's all I recall. Point is mate, we want the whole place to be exciting, it will help the team. If you think we're advocating pitched battles with the away fans, you're mistaken.
I certainly don't want to be told to sit down when our team are on the attack.
[quote][p][bold]tommy gunn[/bold] wrote: I really cannot understand people who say they don't go to the game because there is no atmosphere.Yes I realise the crowd at the Vic is not vocal which is a shame but not to go when we are playing the best football in ages is, it seems, hard to understand.I assume these people are not really interested in the game but just go for other reasons unknown to me.[/p][/quote]I go home and away, regardless but I remember my first game at the Vic 1971 v Blackburn. I remember the raw noise and energy, I was hooked. I think we won 2-1 but of the game that's all I recall. Point is mate, we want the whole place to be exciting, it will help the team. If you think we're advocating pitched battles with the away fans, you're mistaken. I certainly don't want to be told to sit down when our team are on the attack. lutondown

5:52pm Sun 10 Feb 13

tommy gunn says...

LD I take your point but I just think its a real pity that people are staying away for the wrong reasons when theres a chance of seeing a team in with a real chance of promotion.
LD I take your point but I just think its a real pity that people are staying away for the wrong reasons when theres a chance of seeing a team in with a real chance of promotion. tommy gunn

6:09pm Sun 10 Feb 13

lutondown says...

tommy gunn wrote:
LD I take your point but I just think its a real pity that people are staying away for the wrong reasons when theres a chance of seeing a team in with a real chance of promotion.
There's now a stigma among some of the youngsters in supporting Watford.
I try telling all and sundry about our wonderful expansive game, yet they still stay away.
For some reason, our club has become very middle class and I suspect it's from the estates that missing fans are, or potential fans at least.
I suppose winning promotion will get a few thousand neutrals in to see Premiership football, but we really need a bit of passion in the Vic.
GT once said Watford fans like their football, but are not passionate about it. I always thought that a bit rich as he was instrumental in discouraging the more vocal fans from coming.
I've Just dissed God and await abuse!
[quote][p][bold]tommy gunn[/bold] wrote: LD I take your point but I just think its a real pity that people are staying away for the wrong reasons when theres a chance of seeing a team in with a real chance of promotion.[/p][/quote]There's now a stigma among some of the youngsters in supporting Watford. I try telling all and sundry about our wonderful expansive game, yet they still stay away. For some reason, our club has become very middle class and I suspect it's from the estates that missing fans are, or potential fans at least. I suppose winning promotion will get a few thousand neutrals in to see Premiership football, but we really need a bit of passion in the Vic. GT once said Watford fans like their football, but are not passionate about it. I always thought that a bit rich as he was instrumental in discouraging the more vocal fans from coming. I've Just dissed God and await abuse! lutondown

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