Watford's Easter Monday game rescheduled (From Watford Observer)

JohnnyHornet wrote:
So why not push our match back 2 hours and twenty minutes to 5:20 on Easter Monday instead of 28:45 later, so now it's on the Tuesday our fans now can't travel and make a day out of Easter Monday, but have to either lose 2 days work or not go, smacks of Hull win / win situation. Sky TV really know how to show total contempt for WFC and it's fans, no thought whatsoever, ignorant moronic setup.

hornet88 wrote:
At the end of the day it is what it is. I can see how many of you may be frustrated that you could of gone had it been a Monday, but some of us travel away on Tuesday nights no matter how far because we love to watch the hornets. Saying advantage hull is a little out. Yes our fans do make an impact at away games, but the ones that do make the impact are always there week in week out. 500 fans or 2500 fans we will make the same noise away from home. Our players will be even more rested than theirs and will want to pay back the fans that do travel. No need to start pointing the blame at football league or the board. This is football and we have to just deal with it. Let's get up there and cheer them on and just take it on the chin the next day at work when we are tired the adrenaline of a watford win will get us through. COYH

hornet88 wrote:
At the end of the day it is what it is. I can see how many of you may be frustrated that you could of gone had it been a Monday, but some of us travel away on Tuesday nights no matter how far because we love to watch the hornets. Saying advantage hull is a little out. Yes our fans do make an impact at away games, but the ones that do make the impact are always there week in week out. 500 fans or 2500 fans we will make the same noise away from home. Our players will be even more rested than theirs and will want to pay back the fans that do travel. No need to start pointing the blame at football league or the board. This is football and we have to just deal with it. Let's get up there and cheer them on and just take it on the chin the next day at work when we are tired the adrenaline of a watford win will get us through. COYH

Harry's Bar wrote:
Don't fully agree. Playing under lights is nearly always an advantage to the home team.

hornet88 wrote:
Cool, well you guys enjoy writing your complaints on easter Monday and I'll enjoy travelling to see the hornets on the Tuesday night instead. I'm sure the football league will see what theyve been doing wrong all these years and change it back to the monday. I didn't come on here to start an argument. Was just my opinion.

hornet88 wrote:
At the end of the day it is what it is. I can see how many of you may be frustrated that you could of gone had it been a Monday, but some of us travel away on Tuesday nights no matter how far because we love to watch the hornets. Saying advantage hull is a little out. Yes our fans do make an impact at away games, but the ones that do make the impact are always there week in week out. 500 fans or 2500 fans we will make the same noise away from home. Our players will be even more rested than theirs and will want to pay back the fans that do travel. No need to start pointing the blame at football league or the board. This is football and we have to just deal with it. Let's get up there and cheer them on and just take it on the chin the next day at work when we are tired the adrenaline of a watford win will get us through. COYH

Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote:
I assume that WFC have to agree to this change too? If so, it would be good to hear why we agreed to it.

palmeris60 wrote:

hornet88 wrote:
Cool, well you guys enjoy writing your complaints on easter Monday and I'll enjoy travelling to see the hornets on the Tuesday night instead. I'm sure the football league will see what theyve been doing wrong all these years and change it back to the monday. I didn't come on here to start an argument. Was just my opinion.

Nothing wrong with having an opinion!

lutondown wrote:

hornet88 wrote: At the end of the day it is what it is. I can see how many of you may be frustrated that you could of gone had it been a Monday, but some of us travel away on Tuesday nights no matter how far because we love to watch the hornets. Saying advantage hull is a little out. Yes our fans do make an impact at away games, but the ones that do make the impact are always there week in week out. 500 fans or 2500 fans we will make the same noise away from home. Our players will be even more rested than theirs and will want to pay back the fans that do travel. No need to start pointing the blame at football league or the board. This is football and we have to just deal with it. Let's get up there and cheer them on and just take it on the chin the next day at work when we are tired the adrenaline of a watford win will get us through. COYH

And as someone who does attend most, thinks this is not a fair comment to those who cannot get time off work School etc, the many who had already booked cheap train tickets in advance. Just because someone does not attend every game or hold an ST does not make them less a fan, possibly a little unluckier.

hornet88 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

hornet88 wrote: At the end of the day it is what it is. I can see how many of you may be frustrated that you could of gone had it been a Monday, but some of us travel away on Tuesday nights no matter how far because we love to watch the hornets. Saying advantage hull is a little out. Yes our fans do make an impact at away games, but the ones that do make the impact are always there week in week out. 500 fans or 2500 fans we will make the same noise away from home. Our players will be even more rested than theirs and will want to pay back the fans that do travel. No need to start pointing the blame at football league or the board. This is football and we have to just deal with it. Let's get up there and cheer them on and just take it on the chin the next day at work when we are tired the adrenaline of a watford win will get us through. COYH

And as someone who does attend most, thinks this is not a fair comment to those who cannot get time off work School etc, the many who had already booked cheap train tickets in advance. Just because someone does not attend every game or hold an ST does not make them less a fan, possibly a little unluckier.

Fair comment, and your right. I didn't think before submitting so apologies to anyone affected by the change. I don't think people are lesser fans for not going to every game. Never been a big poster on here because I always see myself getting in trouble for saying something like this. The main point I was trying to get across was that we could stick two fingers up at hull by taking a load of us up there anyway rather than letting them get there own way. I'm sure there are a few people who can now make it to the game because of the change but probably not as many who can't.

lockerbiehornet wrote:
Absolute BS, Hull play against a team no more then an 1 and half hours drive away and will be home for 9pm Saturday, yet if they were playing against Bristol City away they wouldn't be home til gone midnight and they would still need to play on the Monday. Another ludicrous decision by the coffin dodgers at the FL!!

D.unstable wrote:
Translated message from the Pozzo's: The sooner we are in the Premier League the better, get away from the tin pot Football League for good!!!

palmeris60 wrote:
ok most people who know me know that i've just been "put in my place" by Mr.Walker so i'm going to start out by saying this isn't a personal attack on him but crikey the silence from the club is deafening! A statement should have been released at the time this information was released. Its time to start making the fans feel valued again.At the moment they dont. We dont want to be made to feel like we are just cash machines for the use of football clubs.This latest decision highlights just how little those in power have for the average fan.This match should have been something to look forward too, not feel angry about.Not one fan has even mentioned cost in the thread but by changing the date and time of the game i bet every single fan who goes will incur extra costs.Its time for the league and clubs to put fans ahead of tv money. Of cause it wont happen because how else are clubs going to pay over rated players such high salaries.No easy answers here.I personally dont know if the cub could have objected to this disgraceful decision.Until someone speaks to us we have little to go on....

Guy Bov wrote:

palmeris60 wrote:
ok most people who know me know that i've just been "put in my place" by Mr.Walker so i'm going to start out by saying this isn't a personal attack on him but crikey the silence from the club is deafening! A statement should have been released at the time this information was released. Its time to start making the fans feel valued again.At the moment they dont. We dont want to be made to feel like we are just cash machines for the use of football clubs.This latest decision highlights just how little those in power have for the average fan.This match should have been something to look forward too, not feel angry about.Not one fan has even mentioned cost in the thread but by changing the date and time of the game i bet every single fan who goes will incur extra costs.Its time for the league and clubs to put fans ahead of tv money. Of cause it wont happen because how else are clubs going to pay over rated players such high salaries.No easy answers here.I personally dont know if the cub could have objected to this disgraceful decision.Until someone speaks to us we have little to go on....

Clubs PR is still reactive rather than proactive.

Am totally behind what the club are doing on the pitch but off it there is still sadly rather a lack of communication

For example

What is happening re the south west corner.. thought work was due to start by now

What is the state of play re football league inquiry ... when is decision likely

Would be nice to get the views of Mr Pozzo now the season well underway

gilesy97 wrote:

D.unstable wrote:
Translated message from the Pozzo's: The sooner we are in the Premier League the better, get away from the tin pot Football League for good!!!

......and then we'll be kicking off anytime between Saturday midday or Monday evening.

mk6 hornet wrote:

Guy Bov wrote:

palmeris60 wrote:
ok most people who know me know that i've just been "put in my place" by Mr.Walker so i'm going to start out by saying this isn't a personal attack on him but crikey the silence from the club is deafening! A statement should have been released at the time this information was released. Its time to start making the fans feel valued again.At the moment they dont. We dont want to be made to feel like we are just cash machines for the use of football clubs.This latest decision highlights just how little those in power have for the average fan.This match should have been something to look forward too, not feel angry about.Not one fan has even mentioned cost in the thread but by changing the date and time of the game i bet every single fan who goes will incur extra costs.Its time for the league and clubs to put fans ahead of tv money. Of cause it wont happen because how else are clubs going to pay over rated players such high salaries.No easy answers here.I personally dont know if the cub could have objected to this disgraceful decision.Until someone speaks to us we have little to go on....

Clubs PR is still reactive rather than proactive.

Am totally behind what the club are doing on the pitch but off it there is still sadly rather a lack of communication

For example

What is happening re the south west corner.. thought work was due to start by now

What is the state of play re football league inquiry ... when is decision likely

Would be nice to get the views of Mr Pozzo now the season well underway

agree,agree,agree

lutondown wrote:

mk6 hornet wrote:

Guy Bov wrote:

palmeris60 wrote:
ok most people who know me know that i've just been "put in my place" by Mr.Walker so i'm going to start out by saying this isn't a personal attack on him but crikey the silence from the club is deafening! A statement should have been released at the time this information was released. Its time to start making the fans feel valued again.At the moment they dont. We dont want to be made to feel like we are just cash machines for the use of football clubs.This latest decision highlights just how little those in power have for the average fan.This match should have been something to look forward too, not feel angry about.Not one fan has even mentioned cost in the thread but by changing the date and time of the game i bet every single fan who goes will incur extra costs.Its time for the league and clubs to put fans ahead of tv money. Of cause it wont happen because how else are clubs going to pay over rated players such high salaries.No easy answers here.I personally dont know if the cub could have objected to this disgraceful decision.Until someone speaks to us we have little to go on....

Clubs PR is still reactive rather than proactive.

Am totally behind what the club are doing on the pitch but off it there is still sadly rather a lack of communication

For example

What is happening re the south west corner.. thought work was due to start by now

What is the state of play re football league inquiry ... when is decision likely

Would be nice to get the views of Mr Pozzo now the season well underway

agree,agree,agree

I'll try and help you on a few.
South west corner is jointly owned i understand, so an agreement between WFC and NHS trust needed to commence.Watford cannot make dates without agreement.
The FL enquiry? How can the club be responsible for timescale on verdict of a case against them? I'm say pure they'd like to know.
Pozzo statement? I'm sending you lots of great players to push for premiership football, my son is moving to the area to confirm our commitment. I'll give you GFZ and sexy football.
And as for Hull, FL made decision today and it was put out today.
No reds under the bed as I see, lots this time last year though.

lutondown wrote:

gilesy97 wrote:

D.unstable wrote:
Translated message from the Pozzo's: The sooner we are in the Premier League the better, get away from the tin pot Football League for good!!!

......and then we'll be kicking off anytime between Saturday midday or Monday evening.

So come on then Gilesy what would you prefer?

Holly68 wrote:
Everyone calm down FFS !

Watford had NO CHOICE IN THIS

So No BLAME on Watford

So rather than waste negative energy on blaming the club lets look to make best of a situation outside Watfords control !!!

I have asked VERY NICELY if Watford would consider giving free coach travel , they are under NO obligation to do so, HOWEVER this idea is being given SERIOUS CONSIDERATION

so all CALM DOWN, stop attacking the club or certain individuals, give them breathing space (this was thrust on them today), and I am hopeful of a good outcome !!!!!

We are all on same side .....

There are good ways to get a good outcome

COYH

Holly68 wrote:
Everyone calm down FFS !

Watford had NO CHOICE IN THIS

So No BLAME on Watford

So rather than waste negative energy on blaming the club lets look to make best of a situation outside Watfords control !!!

I have asked VERY NICELY if Watford would consider giving free coach travel , they are under NO obligation to do so, HOWEVER this idea is being given SERIOUS CONSIDERATION

so all CALM DOWN, stop attacking the club or certain individuals, give them breathing space (this was thrust on them today), and I am hopeful of a good outcome !!!!!

We are all on same side .....

There are good ways to get a good outcome

COYH

Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote:
Surely WFC have to mutually agree to a change in date? I mean, that sounds like common sense to me. We'll just need to be sure that we are 10 points clear of Hull when we play them...

gilesy97 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

gilesy97 wrote:

D.unstable wrote:
Translated message from the Pozzo's: The sooner we are in the Premier League the better, get away from the tin pot Football League for good!!!

......and then we'll be kicking off anytime between Saturday midday or Monday evening.

So come on then Gilesy what would you prefer?

Premier League Football...3pm kick off :-) I'm lucky , I'm able to go to 95% + of games as they mostly kick off at the "correct" time at the moment.......so WHEN we go up , I'm probably one of the few that will actual get to LESS games ( apart from the obvious reason that there ARE less games in the Prem).
As we can see above the Hull fans aren't happy about their game v Huddersfield.,.....a

nd as far as I can see Hull haven't announced the ko change in our game yet on their website!!! I suspect some of their fans will be unhappy too.Be interesting to see the ticket prices for the Hull clash. Our club have made a short statement on the change , and to be honest its not good enough. That, and other things that GuyBov has ,mentioned about , plus the lack of signings in Jan ( and the reason why they weren't ....etc) is making me wonder what's going on in the PR dept. Looking forward to going to the AYP next week , where hopefully these questions will be answered . It's a shame because on the field its all good.

gilesy97 wrote:

Holly68 wrote:
Everyone calm down FFS !

Watford had NO CHOICE IN THIS

So No BLAME on Watford

So rather than waste negative energy on blaming the club lets look to make best of a situation outside Watfords control !!!

I have asked VERY NICELY if Watford would consider giving free coach travel , they are under NO obligation to do so, HOWEVER this idea is being given SERIOUS CONSIDERATION

so all CALM DOWN, stop attacking the club or certain individuals, give them breathing space (this was thrust on them today), and I am hopeful of a good outcome !!!!!

We are all on same side .....

There are good ways to get a good outcome

COYH

Not sure how much FREE coach travel is going to solve the problem. It's the fact that its been moved from a bank holiday to the Tuesday ..ie people that have to work won't be able to make it whether its free or not.
I would expect the club in the near future to make a statement regarding the reasons ...and did we protest etc and that they have also tried to negotiate a ticket price reduction. Also give us a contact withing the FL so we can ALL complain . This is not any old weekend ..it is easter and some people would have made plans , and already paid out money so that they could see the game on Monday.

gilesy97 wrote:

Holly68 wrote: Everyone calm down FFS ! Watford had NO CHOICE IN THIS So No BLAME on Watford So rather than waste negative energy on blaming the club lets look to make best of a situation outside Watfords control !!! I have asked VERY NICELY if Watford would consider giving free coach travel , they are under NO obligation to do so, HOWEVER this idea is being given SERIOUS CONSIDERATION so all CALM DOWN, stop attacking the club or certain individuals, give them breathing space (this was thrust on them today), and I am hopeful of a good outcome !!!!! We are all on same side ..... There are good ways to get a good outcome COYH

Not sure how much FREE coach travel is going to solve the problem. It's the fact that its been moved from a bank holiday to the Tuesday ..ie people that have to work won't be able to make it whether its free or not. I would expect the club in the near future to make a statement regarding the reasons ...and did we protest etc and that they have also tried to negotiate a ticket price reduction. Also give us a contact withing the FL so we can ALL complain . This is not any old weekend ..it is easter and some people would have made plans , and already paid out money so that they could see the game on Monday.

hornet88 wrote:
Holly any chance you could send a request for the pozzos private jet? We could go to work and the game :) I know, not a sensible suggestion.... But worth a try right?

gilesy97 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

gilesy97 wrote:

D.unstable wrote:
Translated message from the Pozzo's: The sooner we are in the Premier League the better, get away from the tin pot Football League for good!!!

......and then we'll be kicking off anytime between Saturday midday or Monday evening.

So come on then Gilesy what would you prefer?

Premier League Football...3pm kick off :-) I'm lucky , I'm able to go to 95% + of games as they mostly kick off at the "correct" time at the moment.......so WHEN we go up , I'm probably one of the few that will actual get to LESS games ( apart from the obvious reason that there ARE less games in the Prem).
As we can see above the Hull fans aren't happy about their game v Huddersfield.,.....a

nd as far as I can see Hull haven't announced the ko change in our game yet on their website!!! I suspect some of their fans will be unhappy too.Be interesting to see the ticket prices for the Hull clash. Our club have made a short statement on the change , and to be honest its not good enough. That, and other things that GuyBov has ,mentioned about , plus the lack of signings in Jan ( and the reason why they weren't ....etc) is making me wonder what's going on in the PR dept. Looking forward to going to the AYP next week , where hopefully these questions will be answered . It's a shame because on the field its all good.

JohnnyHornet wrote:
So why not push our match back 2 hours and twenty minutes to 5:20 on Easter Monday instead of 28:45 later, so now it's on the Tuesday our fans now can't travel and make a day out of Easter Monday, but have to either lose 2 days work or not go, smacks of Hull win / win situation. Sky TV really know how to show total contempt for WFC and it's fans, no thought whatsoever, ignorant moronic setup.

Holly68 wrote:

hornet88 wrote: Holly any chance you could send a request for the pozzos private jet? We could go to work and the game :) I know, not a sensible suggestion.... But worth a try right?

Perfect solution I'm sure we'd take 12,000 if we all got a free ride in the Pozzo Jet

Harry's Bar wrote:

JohnnyHornet wrote:
So why not push our match back 2 hours and twenty minutes to 5:20 on Easter Monday instead of 28:45 later, so now it's on the Tuesday our fans now can't travel and make a day out of Easter Monday, but have to either lose 2 days work or not go, smacks of Hull win / win situation. Sky TV really know how to show total contempt for WFC and it's fans, no thought whatsoever, ignorant moronic setup.

Isn't it our friends from the Football League who make the decision?

Holly68 wrote:

gilesy97 wrote:

Holly68 wrote: Everyone calm down FFS ! Watford had NO CHOICE IN THIS So No BLAME on Watford So rather than waste negative energy on blaming the club lets look to make best of a situation outside Watfords control !!! I have asked VERY NICELY if Watford would consider giving free coach travel , they are under NO obligation to do so, HOWEVER this idea is being given SERIOUS CONSIDERATION so all CALM DOWN, stop attacking the club or certain individuals, give them breathing space (this was thrust on them today), and I am hopeful of a good outcome !!!!! We are all on same side ..... There are good ways to get a good outcome COYH

Not sure how much FREE coach travel is going to solve the problem. It's the fact that its been moved from a bank holiday to the Tuesday ..ie people that have to work won't be able to make it whether its free or not. I would expect the club in the near future to make a statement regarding the reasons ...and did we protest etc and that they have also tried to negotiate a ticket price reduction. Also give us a contact withing the FL so we can ALL complain . This is not any old weekend ..it is easter and some people would have made plans , and already paid out money so that they could see the game on Monday.

What more can the club do then ?

They have NO SAY in the date change, so what more would you want them to consider other than free travel (which has not been agreed, it's just a request at the moment which is being considered) ?

Sensible ideas very welcome !

mk6 hornet wrote:
Hull fans have got the right hump now as west yorkshire police have stipulated that they are only allowed 1,500 tickets for huudersfield and you have to travel on official club coaches so it is not just us who are upset this has messed up a lot peoples plans.

Hayes Hornet wrote:

Harry's Bar wrote:

JohnnyHornet wrote:
So why not push our match back 2 hours and twenty minutes to 5:20 on Easter Monday instead of 28:45 later, so now it's on the Tuesday our fans now can't travel and make a day out of Easter Monday, but have to either lose 2 days work or not go, smacks of Hull win / win situation. Sky TV really know how to show total contempt for WFC and it's fans, no thought whatsoever, ignorant moronic setup.

Isn't it our friends from the Football League who make the decision?

just checked and no refund allowed on the train I had booked. I cant leave work till 2.00 from Basingstoke so not sure how I can get there even if free coach travel.
Looks like my first miss of the season for what will likely to be our most important game. GREAT!!!!! Still as long as Hull and the FL are happy who cares about the real fans. See you all at Ipswich!!!

rob west wrote:
As a hull fan, this is bloody stupid the game should go ahead on monday....for some reason our game against Huddersfield has been move twice now and the police are restricting our away support...some thing not right is going on out there. we should play the game at 3 on monday

rob west wrote:
As a hull fan, this is bloody stupid the game should go ahead on monday....for some reason our game against Huddersfield has been move twice now and the police are restricting our away support...some thing not right is going on out there. we should play the game at 3 on monday

exeterhornet wrote:
I'm afraid I'm becoming paranoid and a conspiracy theorist when it comes to my beloved club and the football league. As detailed in the Daily Mail today, we have seriously pi55ed off the FL with our loan policy (even though it is within the rules) and I note now they are not only going to change the loan terms but also permanent transfers to stop clubs like ours getting players for nothing with high value sell on clauses.
The FL do not want WFC to get promoted ubder any circumstances and this Hull situation is just another chapter of the victimisation.
I fully expect a points deduction for the Bassini situation even though previous (and worse) cases got off with a fine, which if forthcoming will merely prove my suspicions than the FL have well and truly got it in for us.

JohnnyHornet wrote:
From FL

John,

Thank you for your email, your comments have been noted.

With reference to the Hull City v Watford fixture change, this was authorised by The League to ensure that both clubs have equal and adequate recovery time between games. As you are no doubt aware, Watford are playing on Good Friday at 3pm.

Whilst we understand your frustrations, all Football League fixtures are subject to change, and along with TV scheduling, games can be moved at any time due to a whole variety reasons. In this case the movement of the Huddersfield Town v Hull City fixture for live television impacted on the recovery times which lead to our decision to agree to Hull City’s request to defer the fixture with Watford by 24 hours.

It is of course regrettable that any fans may encounter difficulty with travel bookings in relation to this fixture change and we do attempt to keep changes to a minimum throughout a season.

Thank you for contacting The League.

Regards,

Amanda