AUDIO: 'Burnt fingers' played a part in Zola's rotation decision (From Watford Observer)
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AUDIO: 'Burnt fingers' played a part in Gianfranco Zola's rotation decision at Ipswich Town
3:29pm Wednesday 20th February 2013 in Sport
By Frank Smith, Deputy Group Sports Editor
Picture: Action Images
Gianfranco Zola admitted the "burnt fingers" he suffered at Bristol City was a factor when he decided to only make three changes against Ipswich Town last night.
Zola has often made wholesale alterations to his line-up when Watford have had three games in eight days and his side lost 2-0 to bottom-of-the-table Bristol City three weeks ago after making six changes.
The Italian opted to make just three adjustments to the starting XI at Portman Road last night, one of which was forced as Daniel Pudil was withdrawn through illness.
"I did that [only made three changes] because I didn't want to upset you any more," Zola joked when asked by the Watford Observer's Frank Smith.
"No I just felt if I could change one player in each part of the pitch - so one striker, one midfielder and one defender - then I could give an injection of freshness. I thought that would be enough and then I wanted to make the other changes during the game.
"I changed the approach slightly because I burnt my fingers last time [at Bristol City]. But I think it is important that we realise we have already played 33 and there are 13 more to go, plus maybe the play-offs, so we need to keep everybody motivated and in good form.
"We cannot think we are going to finish the season with only 11 players. That is the logic behind my changes, especially when we play [another game] after a few days.
"You can see that with every team; when they play on a Saturday, then on Tuesday night it is always difficult. You can see that with the results around today. I bet they maybe didn't make as many changes."
Comments(81)
kojak17
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4:42pm Wed 20 Feb 13
GaryAW Halifax
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4:58pm Wed 20 Feb 13
GaryAW Halifax
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5:04pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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5:25pm Wed 20 Feb 13
mattymashup
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5:31pm Wed 20 Feb 13
As for martin Samuels comments about us going up at the expense of a team who deserve it more...why does a team deserve it more just because they have a big enough budjet to sign great players on big contracts?! Not a level playing field when we were taken over, and it ain't level now, mainly cos we are the ones ripping the league into little yellow pieces!
Forza watford!!!
BigRussMalta
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5:34pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Boosey
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5:51pm Wed 20 Feb 13
GaryAW Halifax wrote:Win the next six games will give us the air of supremacy, no one will fancy their chances against us. Automatic promotion!
It feels really good so far.Hope we can go up in the top two which will give the club more preparation time and more scope to sign up the better players
The Rover
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7:39pm Wed 20 Feb 13
bonserout
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8:17pm Wed 20 Feb 13
I though Fitz Hall was superb when he came but Nos has to be first choice when he's fit.
mellow yellow
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8:18pm Wed 20 Feb 13
bonserout
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8:19pm Wed 20 Feb 13
mattymashup wrote:Funilly enough it was the young Chelsea lad that gave the ball away all evening but in his defence the pitch was in worse condition than ours last year !
I think the changes were needed, although would rather Eustace for Hogg, who just always seems to give the ball away and lose us momentum. I didn't go so don't slate me too much you lucky few who did. But listening on 3cr it constantly sounded like the ball was getting passed around nicely...unroll Hogg lost it and put us on the back foot! Please tell me I am wrong, as Hogg was one of our better players last term, as were yeates and Murray...shows how far we have come I suppose!
As for martin Samuels comments about us going up at the expense of a team who deserve it more...why does a team deserve it more just because they have a big enough budjet to sign great players on big contracts?! Not a level playing field when we were taken over, and it ain't level now, mainly cos we are the ones ripping the league into little yellow pieces!
Forza watford!!!
watford1881
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8:29pm Wed 20 Feb 13
mattymashup
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8:37pm Wed 20 Feb 13
bonserout wrote:Huh, kinda surprised to hear that! Still, nice that he scored...makes up for it!
mattymashup wrote:Funilly enough it was the young Chelsea lad that gave the ball away all evening but in his defence the pitch was in worse condition than ours last year !
I think the changes were needed, although would rather Eustace for Hogg, who just always seems to give the ball away and lose us momentum. I didn't go so don't slate me too much you lucky few who did. But listening on 3cr it constantly sounded like the ball was getting passed around nicely...unroll Hogg lost it and put us on the back foot! Please tell me I am wrong, as Hogg was one of our better players last term, as were yeates and Murray...shows how far we have come I suppose!
As for martin Samuels comments about us going up at the expense of a team who deserve it more...why does a team deserve it more just because they have a big enough budjet to sign great players on big contracts?! Not a level playing field when we were taken over, and it ain't level now, mainly cos we are the ones ripping the league into little yellow pieces!
Forza watford!!!
Bringe
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8:42pm Wed 20 Feb 13
However now is too late to experiment further and with the season at such a crucial stage it is time to pack away such thoughts.
Bush Hornet
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8:52pm Wed 20 Feb 13
mellow yellow wrote:Yes. Although I hear that Hollow Ian loves to read the Daily Mail because it's ***** (5 words, rhymes with kite)
Martin Samuel can just do one. The man is the definition of malodorous, and he typifies the ill-informed jingoistic tripe of a 'newspaper' that his words appear in.
Bush Hornet
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8:55pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Bringe wrote:Agree with all that
I still believe block rotation needs to be worked on and not forgotten. Once perfected it is ideal to have options that pose different problems to those expected by the opposition and as defensive or attacking units there should be far more cohesion and familiarity.
However now is too late to experiment further and with the season at such a crucial stage it is time to pack away such thoughts.
goldanboy
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9:10pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Gianfranco ..oooo
Gianfranco ..oooo
Oven gloves is what he's learnt
From getting his fingers burnt
FelixTheHorn
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9:25pm Wed 20 Feb 13
bonserout wrote:Totally agreed. Curiously the locally based Tractor Times only gave the Nos 6, whereas Hogg got 9!
Last night I thought our best player was Nosworthy. Every time the ball was played into our box he made a strong chalenge and got on the end of it.
I though Fitz Hall was superb when he came but Nos has to be first choice when he's fit.
Not sure which match they were watching. although they acknowledged our 'sumptuous' passing movements and reckon we're the best team to have visited this season.
COYH!
DuffmanWFC
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9:48pm Wed 20 Feb 13
He got it right last night and that's a sign of him willing to put the result first rather then keeping all 21 pros happy!
For me it's all about the results now and as we are so close I think Zola is starting to realise this as he has admitted that he didn't expect to be in this position so quick!
We have a great squad, it's up to the players to hold on to their place or for a fringe player to play there way in like Anya has the last two games!
Zola doesn't need to make wholesale changes as quite naturally players will be suspended, I'll or injured at any point and someone else will rise to the occasion!
Nosworthy has come back into the side and been superb, the same for Doyley and Anya! And that's with having Hall and Hoban out!... That's my point!
DuffmanWFC
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9:58pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Almunia
Ekstrand
Nosworthy
Doyley
Pudil
Anya
Bottacchino
Abdi
Chaloboah
Deeney
Vydra
Subs: Bond, Cassetti, Murray, Forestieri, Geijo, Hogg, Hoban?
I think Zola may rest Cassetti and Hogg and stick the recently impresive Anya on the right!
DuffmanWFC
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10:11pm Wed 20 Feb 13
goldanboy
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10:15pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Holly68
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10:46pm Wed 20 Feb 13
DuffmanWFC wrote:Can't drop Casetti, he's been amazing !
Saturday's side?
Almunia
Ekstrand
Nosworthy
Doyley
Pudil
Anya
Bottacchino
Abdi
Chaloboah
Deeney
Vydra
Subs: Bond, Cassetti, Murray, Forestieri, Geijo, Hogg, Hoban?
I think Zola may rest Cassetti and Hogg and stick the recently impresive Anya on the right!
Team Saturday :
Alumina
Ekstrand
Doyley
Nosworthy
Cassetti
Anya
Chalobah
Battochio
Abdi
Vydra
Geijo
Subs : Deeney, Fessi, Hogg, Bond, Pudil, Thompson, Mbia
willia6692
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10:49pm Wed 20 Feb 13
bonserout wrote:Exactly that, I was asking for him to be taken Off before his goal, glad he wasn't, but he gave an awful lot of ball away.
mattymashup wrote:Funilly enough it was the young Chelsea lad that gave the ball away all evening but in his defence the pitch was in worse condition than ours last year !
I think the changes were needed, although would rather Eustace for Hogg, who just always seems to give the ball away and lose us momentum. I didn't go so don't slate me too much you lucky few who did. But listening on 3cr it constantly sounded like the ball was getting passed around nicely...unroll Hogg lost it and put us on the back foot! Please tell me I am wrong, as Hogg was one of our better players last term, as were yeates and Murray...shows how far we have come I suppose!
As for martin Samuels comments about us going up at the expense of a team who deserve it more...why does a team deserve it more just because they have a big enough budjet to sign great players on big contracts?! Not a level playing field when we were taken over, and it ain't level now, mainly cos we are the ones ripping the league into little yellow pieces!
Forza watford!!!
neilhorn
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11:07pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Jon_mk
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11:11pm Wed 20 Feb 13
mattymashup wrote:Yeates was one of our better players last season?! Are you kidding me!?!!
I think the changes were needed, although would rather Eustace for Hogg, who just always seems to give the ball away and lose us momentum. I didn't go so don't slate me too much you lucky few who did. But listening on 3cr it constantly sounded like the ball was getting passed around nicely...unroll Hogg lost it and put us on the back foot! Please tell me I am wrong, as Hogg was one of our better players last term, as were yeates and Murray...shows how far we have come I suppose!
As for martin Samuels comments about us going up at the expense of a team who deserve it more...why does a team deserve it more just because they have a big enough budjet to sign great players on big contracts?! Not a level playing field when we were taken over, and it ain't level now, mainly cos we are the ones ripping the league into little yellow pieces!
Forza watford!!!
Bush Hornet
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11:19pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Holly68 wrote:Can't drop Cassetti, we've got a song for him
DuffmanWFC wrote:Can't drop Casetti, he's been amazing !
Saturday's side?
Almunia
Ekstrand
Nosworthy
Doyley
Pudil
Anya
Bottacchino
Abdi
Chaloboah
Deeney
Vydra
Subs: Bond, Cassetti, Murray, Forestieri, Geijo, Hogg, Hoban?
I think Zola may rest Cassetti and Hogg and stick the recently impresive Anya on the right!
Team Saturday :
Alumina
Ekstrand
Doyley
Nosworthy
Cassetti
Anya
Chalobah
Battochio
Abdi
Vydra
Geijo
Subs : Deeney, Fessi, Hogg, Bond, Pudil, Thompson, Mbia
mitch kings langley
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8:09am Thu 21 Feb 13
Hogg & Chalobah never stopped running even when they had picked up knocks.
So at no time they were 'giving the ball away' on a better pitch we would have scored at least another couple. If you saw the match all players were caught on the ball or lost it but it seems fashionable to pick on the centre 2 who have the ball most!
DuffmanWFC
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8:30am Thu 21 Feb 13
I would want Cassetti to play but at 35 and with a lot of game time in only a few days I can see Zola resting him and Hogg too!
Mind you we do have to pinch ourselves don't we? Well who shall we leave out?.... Geijo, Fessi, Munji Bai, Murray, Yeates, Eustace? Oh at that's with the possibly missing Hall and Hoban AND with the deffo missing Neuton and Bauban!
We surely must have the best squad in this division by a country mile! And because of this surely we CAN win it!
Come on you horns! Gianfranco's yellow army!
AMP4WATFORD4EVER
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8:51am Thu 21 Feb 13
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:Absolutely spot on, Mickey. I have the upmost respect for Zola when he admits his mistakes and even jokes about it. It shows me that he has class and wisdom enough to be better. In Zola we trust. Can´t wait to plan a trip from Denmark to the Vic next year when we hit the Prem.
He is a megastar but still prepared to accept when he got it wrong and learn from his mistakes! Total respect for the guy.
Wimbledonhorn
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11:35am Thu 21 Feb 13
We can catch Cardiff no doubt about it - they will wobble. Reading the articles on 'walesonline' anyone would think they have promotion in the bag. Talk about back slapping and high fives before they've got the prize.
BigRussMalta
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11:44am Thu 21 Feb 13
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=GDsyAb40l
fU
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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12:00pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Wimbledonhorn wrote:If this was Dec I would agree but there are too few games left to catch Cardiff. They would need to collapse rather than wobble and, with the quality they have bought this season, I don't see it happening sadly. In reality we are one of 4 racing for that 2nd spot.
Would like to GEIJO AND VYDRA start up front on Saturday. Deeney needs a rest.
We can catch Cardiff no doubt about it - they will wobble. Reading the articles on 'walesonline' anyone would think they have promotion in the bag. Talk about back slapping and high fives before they've got the prize.
Harry's Bar
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12:21pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:Have another look at the table.
Wimbledonhorn wrote: Would like to GEIJO AND VYDRA start up front on Saturday. Deeney needs a rest. We can catch Cardiff no doubt about it - they will wobble. Reading the articles on 'walesonline' anyone would think they have promotion in the bag. Talk about back slapping and high fives before they've got the prize.If this was Dec I would agree but there are too few games left to catch Cardiff. They would need to collapse rather than wobble and, with the quality they have bought this season, I don't see it happening sadly. In reality we are one of 4 racing for that 2nd spot.
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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12:37pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:yep 8 points ahead and a game in hand. As I said a wobble would not be enough and sadly I dont believe they'll collapse. Would be more likely that Brighton in 7th would overtake us, taking into account games to play, than we would catch cardiff ....but that also wont happen !!
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:Have another look at the table.
Wimbledonhorn wrote: Would like to GEIJO AND VYDRA start up front on Saturday. Deeney needs a rest. We can catch Cardiff no doubt about it - they will wobble. Reading the articles on 'walesonline' anyone would think they have promotion in the bag. Talk about back slapping and high fives before they've got the prize.If this was Dec I would agree but there are too few games left to catch Cardiff. They would need to collapse rather than wobble and, with the quality they have bought this season, I don't see it happening sadly. In reality we are one of 4 racing for that 2nd spot.
Eastsussexhornet
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1:05pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:Catching Cardiff would take some doing, agreed, but I am not quite so accepting as you that 2nd place is all we can hope for. They always fade at the end and may be it's just started again and Wolves away next will be tricky for them. Playing teams down there at this stage of the season is difficult. I would rather that Cardiff ARE patting themselves on the back already. And remember, we have to play them yet.
Harry's Bar wrote:yep 8 points ahead and a game in hand. As I said a wobble would not be enough and sadly I dont believe they'll collapse. Would be more likely that Brighton in 7th would overtake us, taking into account games to play, than we would catch cardiff ....but that also wont happen !!
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:Have another look at the table.
Wimbledonhorn wrote: Would like to GEIJO AND VYDRA start up front on Saturday. Deeney needs a rest. We can catch Cardiff no doubt about it - they will wobble. Reading the articles on 'walesonline' anyone would think they have promotion in the bag. Talk about back slapping and high fives before they've got the prize.If this was Dec I would agree but there are too few games left to catch Cardiff. They would need to collapse rather than wobble and, with the quality they have bought this season, I don't see it happening sadly. In reality we are one of 4 racing for that 2nd spot.
lutondown
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1:08pm Thu 21 Feb 13
bonserout wrote:Hogg and Chalobah both gave up possession easily. Hogg because he's not sharp enough and Chalobah because he can get casual.
mattymashup wrote:Funilly enough it was the young Chelsea lad that gave the ball away all evening but in his defence the pitch was in worse condition than ours last year !
I think the changes were needed, although would rather Eustace for Hogg, who just always seems to give the ball away and lose us momentum. I didn't go so don't slate me too much you lucky few who did. But listening on 3cr it constantly sounded like the ball was getting passed around nicely...unroll Hogg lost it and put us on the back foot! Please tell me I am wrong, as Hogg was one of our better players last term, as were yeates and Murray...shows how far we have come I suppose!
As for martin Samuels comments about us going up at the expense of a team who deserve it more...why does a team deserve it more just because they have a big enough budjet to sign great players on big contracts?! Not a level playing field when we were taken over, and it ain't level now, mainly cos we are the ones ripping the league into little yellow pieces!
Forza watford!!!
Zola is dead right we will not complete season with same 11, so changes will be made.
There has been a lobby that hanker for Hogg and Eustace, well they played at Bristol, and our midfield was dire.
Saturday? Geijo and Vydra for me, Deeney has worked his socks off and must be tired.
jasonwatford
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1:30pm Thu 21 Feb 13
exeterhornet
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1:46pm Thu 21 Feb 13
As regards Saturday, return of the bat and otter please - anything else is up to you GFZ
Mohandas
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1:54pm Thu 21 Feb 13
AMP4WATFORD4EVER wrote:GFZ is big enough to admit his mistake and that speaks volume for his leadership and this will only add to the team spirit. Who in today's world ever admits when they've got it wrong? He's got my respect.
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:Absolutely spot on, Mickey. I have the upmost respect for Zola when he admits his mistakes and even jokes about it. It shows me that he has class and wisdom enough to be better. In Zola we trust. Can´t wait to plan a trip from Denmark to the Vic next year when we hit the Prem.
He is a megastar but still prepared to accept when he got it wrong and learn from his mistakes! Total respect for the guy.
lutondown
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1:56pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Holly68 wrote:holly man for man spot on. Rest Cassetti? No way, he oozes class.
DuffmanWFC wrote:Can't drop Casetti, he's been amazing !
Saturday's side?
Almunia
Ekstrand
Nosworthy
Doyley
Pudil
Anya
Bottacchino
Abdi
Chaloboah
Deeney
Vydra
Subs: Bond, Cassetti, Murray, Forestieri, Geijo, Hogg, Hoban?
I think Zola may rest Cassetti and Hogg and stick the recently impresive Anya on the right!
Team Saturday :
Alumina
Ekstrand
Doyley
Nosworthy
Cassetti
Anya
Chalobah
Battochio
Abdi
Vydra
Geijo
Subs : Deeney, Fessi, Hogg, Bond, Pudil, Thompson, Mbia
lutondown
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1:59pm Thu 21 Feb 13
exeterhornet wrote:Already up? No there's over a quarter of season left. An old team. I agree they will probably make it, but another loss, and who knows?
That last game between Hull and Cardiff bothers me, even at this early stage. I can see either Cardiff already up and in passport and suitcase mode in which case it's a given three points to the tigers, or less likely, the draw suits both and we see a game where both sides f**t about in the middle third and produce a very adequate 0-0 draw.
As regards Saturday, return of the bat and otter please - anything else is up to you GFZ
Talk that they are already up is like us saying we have definitely made play offs. We haven't nor are they up. Yet.
And when are we all going to stop referring to Bristol City? FFS The last tinker was Tuesday and we won, lets talk about that.
mellow yellow
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2:23pm Thu 21 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:LD and Holly... Totally agree. Would be the line up I want to see on Saturday as well.
Holly68 wrote:holly man for man spot on. Rest Cassetti? No way, he oozes class.
DuffmanWFC wrote:Can't drop Casetti, he's been amazing !
Saturday's side?
Almunia
Ekstrand
Nosworthy
Doyley
Pudil
Anya
Bottacchino
Abdi
Chaloboah
Deeney
Vydra
Subs: Bond, Cassetti, Murray, Forestieri, Geijo, Hogg, Hoban?
I think Zola may rest Cassetti and Hogg and stick the recently impresive Anya on the right!
Team Saturday :
Alumina
Ekstrand
Doyley
Nosworthy
Cassetti
Anya
Chalobah
Battochio
Abdi
Vydra
Geijo
Subs : Deeney, Fessi, Hogg, Bond, Pudil, Thompson, Mbia
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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2:42pm Thu 21 Feb 13
jasonwatford wrote:If we won 9 and drew 1 of our last 13, Cardiff could afford to win 6 draw 3 and lose 5 of their 14 and still finish above us. Forget them, we must overtake hull and stay ahead of CP and L to avoid the playoff lottery
Cardiff have to come to us and they have leicester to go to them...charlton must go there and they can take points off anyone as we have seen. Lat day of season cardiff have to travel to Hull so as long as they dont both need a draw we do have a chance.
lutondown
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2:48pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:No, it's not over till the fat lady sings. Cardiff have yet to wobble, if they don't then they deserve that place but for me there's two places to go for, and we have Cardiff here, that could be a six pointer. I honestly think if we fire on all, ten wins is a possibility.
jasonwatford wrote:If we won 9 and drew 1 of our last 13, Cardiff could afford to win 6 draw 3 and lose 5 of their 14 and still finish above us. Forget them, we must overtake hull and stay ahead of CP and L to avoid the playoff lottery
Cardiff have to come to us and they have leicester to go to them...charlton must go there and they can take points off anyone as we have seen. Lat day of season cardiff have to travel to Hull so as long as they dont both need a draw we do have a chance.
Pointless arguing Quinny. Im an optimist and your in bad need of a diet to cheer you up! ;-)
lutondown
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2:50pm Thu 21 Feb 13
mellow yellow wrote:We only disagree on new songs! ;-)
lutondown wrote:LD and Holly... Totally agree. Would be the line up I want to see on Saturday as well.
Holly68 wrote:holly man for man spot on. Rest Cassetti? No way, he oozes class.
DuffmanWFC wrote:Can't drop Casetti, he's been amazing !
Saturday's side?
Almunia
Ekstrand
Nosworthy
Doyley
Pudil
Anya
Bottacchino
Abdi
Chaloboah
Deeney
Vydra
Subs: Bond, Cassetti, Murray, Forestieri, Geijo, Hogg, Hoban?
I think Zola may rest Cassetti and Hogg and stick the recently impresive Anya on the right!
Team Saturday :
Alumina
Ekstrand
Doyley
Nosworthy
Cassetti
Anya
Chalobah
Battochio
Abdi
Vydra
Geijo
Subs : Deeney, Fessi, Hogg, Bond, Pudil, Thompson, Mbia
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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2:51pm Thu 21 Feb 13
mellow yellow wrote:hmmm will Cassetti play every game to the end of the season ? If not now would be good time to rest him for 1 match with anya on fire. I'd go with duffmans 11.
lutondown wrote:LD and Holly... Totally agree. Would be the line up I want to see on Saturday as well.
Holly68 wrote:holly man for man spot on. Rest Cassetti? No way, he oozes class.
DuffmanWFC wrote:Can't drop Casetti, he's been amazing !
Saturday's side?
Almunia
Ekstrand
Nosworthy
Doyley
Pudil
Anya
Bottacchino
Abdi
Chaloboah
Deeney
Vydra
Subs: Bond, Cassetti, Murray, Forestieri, Geijo, Hogg, Hoban?
I think Zola may rest Cassetti and Hogg and stick the recently impresive Anya on the right!
Team Saturday :
Alumina
Ekstrand
Doyley
Nosworthy
Cassetti
Anya
Chalobah
Battochio
Abdi
Vydra
Geijo
Subs : Deeney, Fessi, Hogg, Bond, Pudil, Thompson, Mbia
lutondown
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2:52pm Thu 21 Feb 13
This will get going, librarians buy ear muffs in matching colours to your blankets!
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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2:55pm Thu 21 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:You're an optimist and I'm a realist !! I really hope you're right, just think its very very unlikely. If we could beat C, L and H we'd be in a fantastic position !
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:No, it's not over till the fat lady sings. Cardiff have yet to wobble, if they don't then they deserve that place but for me there's two places to go for, and we have Cardiff here, that could be a six pointer. I honestly think if we fire on all, ten wins is a possibility.
jasonwatford wrote:If we won 9 and drew 1 of our last 13, Cardiff could afford to win 6 draw 3 and lose 5 of their 14 and still finish above us. Forget them, we must overtake hull and stay ahead of CP and L to avoid the playoff lottery
Cardiff have to come to us and they have leicester to go to them...charlton must go there and they can take points off anyone as we have seen. Lat day of season cardiff have to travel to Hull so as long as they dont both need a draw we do have a chance.
Pointless arguing Quinny. Im an optimist and your in bad need of a diet to cheer you up! ;-)
JohnnyHornet
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2:59pm Thu 21 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:I think it will hinge on how we do against Cardiff and Hull, although the rest are vitally important, we can't afford a slip up though but must maintain that self belief if we have a minor slip.
exeterhornet wrote:Already up? No there's over a quarter of season left. An old team. I agree they will probably make it, but another loss, and who knows?
That last game between Hull and Cardiff bothers me, even at this early stage. I can see either Cardiff already up and in passport and suitcase mode in which case it's a given three points to the tigers, or less likely, the draw suits both and we see a game where both sides f**t about in the middle third and produce a very adequate 0-0 draw.
As regards Saturday, return of the bat and otter please - anything else is up to you GFZ
Talk that they are already up is like us saying we have definitely made play offs. We haven't nor are they up. Yet.
And when are we all going to stop referring to Bristol City? FFS The last tinker was Tuesday and we won, lets talk about that.
weeblehorn
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3:01pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Gianfranco ..oooooh
one metre 63
he comes from Italy
jasonwatford
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3:06pm Thu 21 Feb 13
lutondown
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3:14pm Thu 21 Feb 13
jasonwatford wrote:Jase if you cd email words I will put onto sheet I'm printing for coach
Just to let you know LD i passed the cassetti song onto the lads who do the podcast " from the rookery end" asked them if they could feature on next podcast.
Lutondown@me.com
Thanks mate
Btw emails are free, so no excuses!
jasonwatford
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3:30pm Thu 21 Feb 13
MJ1
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3:51pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Mohandas wrote:Like others I am pleased if he admits mistakes and learns from them but his 'burnt fingers' comments contrast starkly from his comments immediately after the Bristol City defeat when he defended his six changes and said he'd do it again. Read what he said on this web site
AMP4WATFORD4EVER wrote:GFZ is big enough to admit his mistake and that speaks volume for his leadership and this will only add to the team spirit. Who in today's world ever admits when they've got it wrong? He's got my respect.Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote: He is a megastar but still prepared to accept when he got it wrong and learn from his mistakes! Total respect for the guy.Absolutely spot on, Mickey. I have the upmost respect for Zola when he admits his mistakes and even jokes about it. It shows me that he has class and wisdom enough to be better. In Zola we trust. Can´t wait to plan a trip from Denmark to the Vic next year when we hit the Prem.
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mellow yellow
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4:12pm Thu 21 Feb 13
MJ1 wrote:Possibly because he knows how to handle people, didn't want to say anything rash, and now has had time to properly consider the situation. In other words, behaving with some dignity and self reflection. Strewth. You'll be criticising his taste in underwear next.
Mohandas wrote:Like others I am pleased if he admits mistakes and learns from them but his 'burnt fingers' comments contrast starkly from his comments immediately after the Bristol City defeat when he defended his six changes and said he'd do it again. Read what he said on this web site
AMP4WATFORD4EVER wrote:GFZ is big enough to admit his mistake and that speaks volume for his leadership and this will only add to the team spirit. Who in today's world ever admits when they've got it wrong? He's got my respect.Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote: He is a megastar but still prepared to accept when he got it wrong and learn from his mistakes! Total respect for the guy.Absolutely spot on, Mickey. I have the upmost respect for Zola when he admits his mistakes and even jokes about it. It shows me that he has class and wisdom enough to be better. In Zola we trust. Can´t wait to plan a trip from Denmark to the Vic next year when we hit the Prem.
http://www.watfordob
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SAHornet
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4:27pm Thu 21 Feb 13
MJ1 wrote:Jeeeeez !
Mohandas wrote:Like others I am pleased if he admits mistakes and learns from them but his 'burnt fingers' comments contrast starkly from his comments immediately after the Bristol City defeat when he defended his six changes and said he'd do it again. Read what he said on this web site
AMP4WATFORD4EVER wrote:GFZ is big enough to admit his mistake and that speaks volume for his leadership and this will only add to the team spirit. Who in today's world ever admits when they've got it wrong? He's got my respect.Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote: He is a megastar but still prepared to accept when he got it wrong and learn from his mistakes! Total respect for the guy.Absolutely spot on, Mickey. I have the upmost respect for Zola when he admits his mistakes and even jokes about it. It shows me that he has class and wisdom enough to be better. In Zola we trust. Can´t wait to plan a trip from Denmark to the Vic next year when we hit the Prem.
http://www.watfordob
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_regret_making_six_c
hanges_against_City/
lutondown
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4:27pm Thu 21 Feb 13
jasonwatford wrote:We are sitting on a coach, drunk, why would we be piddling about with podcasts?
All done...by the way ask a younger person about podcasts as your a bit old for all that with your pen and paper :-)
A sheet of paper in one hand, bottle of bud in the other..
Boosey
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4:32pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Post whole song how you all want it and I'll print some off for Saturday.
lutondown
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4:34pm Thu 21 Feb 13
MJ1 wrote:And what's your point? As if he can come out and say the players I picked were poor.
Mohandas wrote:Like others I am pleased if he admits mistakes and learns from them but his 'burnt fingers' comments contrast starkly from his comments immediately after the Bristol City defeat when he defended his six changes and said he'd do it again. Read what he said on this web site
AMP4WATFORD4EVER wrote:GFZ is big enough to admit his mistake and that speaks volume for his leadership and this will only add to the team spirit. Who in today's world ever admits when they've got it wrong? He's got my respect.Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote: He is a megastar but still prepared to accept when he got it wrong and learn from his mistakes! Total respect for the guy.Absolutely spot on, Mickey. I have the upmost respect for Zola when he admits his mistakes and even jokes about it. It shows me that he has class and wisdom enough to be better. In Zola we trust. Can´t wait to plan a trip from Denmark to the Vic next year when we hit the Prem.
http://www.watfordob
server.co.uk/sport/1
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_regret_making_six_c
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Can't you give it rest? It's gone, past.
I find it slightly worrying you keep these links to wave about as some kind of inference that GFZ is backtracking.
This, coming off the back of a run of 8 games that has seen us win 6 draw 1 and lose 1. Scoring 13 conceding 5.
They are the things I want o be discussing.
Travelling Hornet
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5:00pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Great that 'Just one Cassetti ' is gaining momentum.
The last line of the song, would it be better from Italy than Udinese? It rolls of the tongue easier.
Post whole song how you all want it and I'll print some off for Saturday.
One thing , I put Udinese as the last word of the second verse as the first verse finishes with 'Italy '
It still scans and can be emphasised with a flourish!
lutondown
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5:04pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:I'll email to you! Jason sent over earlier and agree Italy does roll better, but Udi would upset the opposition more! Either way.
The last line of the song, would it be better from Italy than Udinese? It rolls of the tongue easier.
Post whole song how you all want it and I'll print some off for Saturday.
I was doing that with first verse of yellow, for coach trip?
hornet88
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5:07pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Play him for me,
Delicious football,
From Italy,
He's bearded,
And 6ft 3,
Marco cassetti,
From Italy.
Fits better with Italy if you ask me.
Another song I made and posted on another thread... To the tune of the national anthem...
God (or poz if you prefer) saved our football team,
From that crook bassini,
Watford fc,
Do do do do,
He sent us cassetti,
Vydra and aaaabdi,
Into the premier league,
Watford f.c.
*takes a bow* *the crowd go wild*
lutondown
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5:08pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:I've sent over matey
The last line of the song, would it be better from Italy than Udinese? It rolls of the tongue easier.
Post whole song how you all want it and I'll print some off for Saturday.
lutondown
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5:09pm Thu 21 Feb 13
hornet88 wrote:88 get it going buddy! We'll join in.
Just one cassetti,
Play him for me,
Delicious football,
From Italy,
He's bearded,
And 6ft 3,
Marco cassetti,
From Italy.
Fits better with Italy if you ask me.
Another song I made and posted on another thread... To the tune of the national anthem...
God (or poz if you prefer) saved our football team,
From that crook bassini,
Watford fc,
Do do do do,
He sent us cassetti,
Vydra and aaaabdi,
Into the premier league,
Watford f.c.
*takes a bow* *the crowd go wild*
Remember middle bar, under TV.
hornet88
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5:16pm Thu 21 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Will do my best....and I'll find you, I'm sure there's not many people who cross dress at football ;-)
hornet88 wrote: Just one cassetti, Play him for me, Delicious football, From Italy, He's bearded, And 6ft 3, Marco cassetti, From Italy. Fits better with Italy if you ask me. Another song I made and posted on another thread... To the tune of the national anthem... God (or poz if you prefer) saved our football team, From that crook bassini, Watford fc, Do do do do, He sent us cassetti, Vydra and aaaabdi, Into the premier league, Watford f.c. *takes a bow* *the crowd go wild*88 get it going buddy! We'll join in. Remember middle bar, under TV.
Boosey
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5:18pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Boosey
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5:20pm Thu 21 Feb 13
lutondown
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5:21pm Thu 21 Feb 13
hornet88 wrote:Cross dress? Yeah ok.
lutondown wrote:Will do my best....and I'll find you, I'm sure there's not many people who cross dress at football ;-)
hornet88 wrote: Just one cassetti, Play him for me, Delicious football, From Italy, He's bearded, And 6ft 3, Marco cassetti, From Italy. Fits better with Italy if you ask me. Another song I made and posted on another thread... To the tune of the national anthem... God (or poz if you prefer) saved our football team, From that crook bassini, Watford fc, Do do do do, He sent us cassetti, Vydra and aaaabdi, Into the premier league, Watford f.c. *takes a bow* *the crowd go wild*88 get it going buddy! We'll join in. Remember middle bar, under TV.
But I've just sang your song, it works!
Larrythe Loafer 'Orn
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5:23pm Thu 21 Feb 13
If we play to our potential then we can and will beat anyone in this division and with Warnock saying he will quit if Leeds dont get promotion, I would love to be assured of automatic promotion by 27th April (Leicester) celebrate at Vicarage Road the next week and put 5 past Leeds to stop them being in the playoffs and wave goodbye to NW - Sweet!!!!!!
How about this for a song?
Franco Zola's yellow armani !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boosey
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5:24pm Thu 21 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Just sang it? I have sung it hundreds of times already! LOL
hornet88 wrote:Cross dress? Yeah ok.
lutondown wrote:Will do my best....and I'll find you, I'm sure there's not many people who cross dress at football ;-)
hornet88 wrote: Just one cassetti, Play him for me, Delicious football, From Italy, He's bearded, And 6ft 3, Marco cassetti, From Italy. Fits better with Italy if you ask me. Another song I made and posted on another thread... To the tune of the national anthem... God (or poz if you prefer) saved our football team, From that crook bassini, Watford fc, Do do do do, He sent us cassetti, Vydra and aaaabdi, Into the premier league, Watford f.c. *takes a bow* *the crowd go wild*88 get it going buddy! We'll join in. Remember middle bar, under TV.
But I've just sang your song, it works!
lutondown
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5:24pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Don't let Paul Holden aka Holly 68 see, as he will overrule the song sheet, add verses with words we cannot pronounce, and then hide in legends lounge!!
We have lift off!
hornet88
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5:31pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Glad you like it.
lutondown wrote:Just sang it? I have sung it hundreds of times already! LOLhornet88 wrote:Cross dress? Yeah ok. But I've just sang your song, it works!lutondown wrote:Will do my best....and I'll find you, I'm sure there's not many people who cross dress at football ;-)hornet88 wrote: Just one cassetti, Play him for me, Delicious football, From Italy, He's bearded, And 6ft 3, Marco cassetti, From Italy. Fits better with Italy if you ask me. Another song I made and posted on another thread... To the tune of the national anthem... God (or poz if you prefer) saved our football team, From that crook bassini, Watford fc, Do do do do, He sent us cassetti, Vydra and aaaabdi, Into the premier league, Watford f.c. *takes a bow* *the crowd go wild*88 get it going buddy! We'll join in. Remember middle bar, under TV.
LD the cross dress joke was to do with the secretary role you now have. Never mind.... I should work on my jokes rather than so many songs.
Boosey
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5:35pm Thu 21 Feb 13
hornet88 wrote:I would like to unravel the crossed wires regarding LD's cross dressing. It's only on a Friday night and will answer to knickers down!
Boosey wrote:Glad you like it.
lutondown wrote:Just sang it? I have sung it hundreds of times already! LOLhornet88 wrote:Cross dress? Yeah ok. But I've just sang your song, it works!lutondown wrote:Will do my best....and I'll find you, I'm sure there's not many people who cross dress at football ;-)hornet88 wrote: Just one cassetti, Play him for me, Delicious football, From Italy, He's bearded, And 6ft 3, Marco cassetti, From Italy. Fits better with Italy if you ask me. Another song I made and posted on another thread... To the tune of the national anthem... God (or poz if you prefer) saved our football team, From that crook bassini, Watford fc, Do do do do, He sent us cassetti, Vydra and aaaabdi, Into the premier league, Watford f.c. *takes a bow* *the crowd go wild*88 get it going buddy! We'll join in. Remember middle bar, under TV.
LD the cross dress joke was to do with the secretary role you now have. Never mind.... I should work on my jokes rather than so many songs.
lutondown
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5:40pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Well if I do so be it, but I'd be the only one in my house doing so! Such is the chill! Lol
hornet88 wrote:I would like to unravel the crossed wires regarding LD's cross dressing. It's only on a Friday night and will answer to knickers down!
Boosey wrote:Glad you like it.
lutondown wrote:Just sang it? I have sung it hundreds of times already! LOLhornet88 wrote:Cross dress? Yeah ok. But I've just sang your song, it works!lutondown wrote:Will do my best....and I'll find you, I'm sure there's not many people who cross dress at football ;-)hornet88 wrote: Just one cassetti, Play him for me, Delicious football, From Italy, He's bearded, And 6ft 3, Marco cassetti, From Italy. Fits better with Italy if you ask me. Another song I made and posted on another thread... To the tune of the national anthem... God (or poz if you prefer) saved our football team, From that crook bassini, Watford fc, Do do do do, He sent us cassetti, Vydra and aaaabdi, Into the premier league, Watford f.c. *takes a bow* *the crowd go wild*88 get it going buddy! We'll join in. Remember middle bar, under TV.
LD the cross dress joke was to do with the secretary role you now have. Never mind.... I should work on my jokes rather than so many songs.
Boosey
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5:51pm Thu 21 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Buy her a season ticket for last seven home games, that will definately warm her to you.
Boosey wrote:Well if I do so be it, but I'd be the only one in my house doing so! Such is the chill! Lol
hornet88 wrote:I would like to unravel the crossed wires regarding LD's cross dressing. It's only on a Friday night and will answer to knickers down!
Boosey wrote:Glad you like it.
lutondown wrote:Just sang it? I have sung it hundreds of times already! LOLhornet88 wrote:Cross dress? Yeah ok. But I've just sang your song, it works!lutondown wrote:Will do my best....and I'll find you, I'm sure there's not many people who cross dress at football ;-)hornet88 wrote: Just one cassetti, Play him for me, Delicious football, From Italy, He's bearded, And 6ft 3, Marco cassetti, From Italy. Fits better with Italy if you ask me. Another song I made and posted on another thread... To the tune of the national anthem... God (or poz if you prefer) saved our football team, From that crook bassini, Watford fc, Do do do do, He sent us cassetti, Vydra and aaaabdi, Into the premier league, Watford f.c. *takes a bow* *the crowd go wild*88 get it going buddy! We'll join in. Remember middle bar, under TV.
LD the cross dress joke was to do with the secretary role you now have. Never mind.... I should work on my jokes rather than so many songs.
If only Carlesberg done apologies!
hornet88
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5:55pm Thu 21 Feb 13
lutondown
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6:05pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:I'd still drink bitter!
lutondown wrote:Buy her a season ticket for last seven home games, that will definately warm her to you.
Boosey wrote:Well if I do so be it, but I'd be the only one in my house doing so! Such is the chill! Lol
hornet88 wrote:I would like to unravel the crossed wires regarding LD's cross dressing. It's only on a Friday night and will answer to knickers down!
Boosey wrote:Glad you like it.
lutondown wrote:Just sang it? I have sung it hundreds of times already! LOLhornet88 wrote:Cross dress? Yeah ok. But I've just sang your song, it works!lutondown wrote:Will do my best....and I'll find you, I'm sure there's not many people who cross dress at football ;-)hornet88 wrote: Just one cassetti, Play him for me, Delicious football, From Italy, He's bearded, And 6ft 3, Marco cassetti, From Italy. Fits better with Italy if you ask me. Another song I made and posted on another thread... To the tune of the national anthem... God (or poz if you prefer) saved our football team, From that crook bassini, Watford fc, Do do do do, He sent us cassetti, Vydra and aaaabdi, Into the premier league, Watford f.c. *takes a bow* *the crowd go wild*88 get it going buddy! We'll join in. Remember middle bar, under TV.
LD the cross dress joke was to do with the secretary role you now have. Never mind.... I should work on my jokes rather than so many songs.
If only Carlesberg done apologies!
I'll live on my own i'll live on my own..that boy LD he'll live on his own!
Football widows just don't understand!
Boosey
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6:08pm Thu 21 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Be careful what you wish for. . . . . . . . .
Boosey wrote:I'd still drink bitter!
lutondown wrote:Buy her a season ticket for last seven home games, that will definately warm her to you.
Boosey wrote:Well if I do so be it, but I'd be the only one in my house doing so! Such is the chill! Lol
hornet88 wrote:I would like to unravel the crossed wires regarding LD's cross dressing. It's only on a Friday night and will answer to knickers down!
Boosey wrote:Glad you like it.
lutondown wrote:Just sang it? I have sung it hundreds of times already! LOLhornet88 wrote:Cross dress? Yeah ok. But I've just sang your song, it works!lutondown wrote:Will do my best....and I'll find you, I'm sure there's not many people who cross dress at football ;-)hornet88 wrote: Just one cassetti, Play him for me, Delicious football, From Italy, He's bearded, And 6ft 3, Marco cassetti, From Italy. Fits better with Italy if you ask me. Another song I made and posted on another thread... To the tune of the national anthem... God (or poz if you prefer) saved our football team, From that crook bassini, Watford fc, Do do do do, He sent us cassetti, Vydra and aaaabdi, Into the premier league, Watford f.c. *takes a bow* *the crowd go wild*88 get it going buddy! We'll join in. Remember middle bar, under TV.
LD the cross dress joke was to do with the secretary role you now have. Never mind.... I should work on my jokes rather than so many songs.
If only Carlesberg done apologies!
I'll live on my own i'll live on my own..that boy LD he'll live on his own!
Football widows just don't understand!
That LD bloke is gonna live on his own!
You might have to house share with a few of us!
lutondown
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8:15pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Yellow walls, a bar, 24 hrs u p**n on 54inch screen, a polish cleaner twice a week...yeah, I see that!
lutondown wrote:Be careful what you wish for. . . . . . . . .
Boosey wrote:I'd still drink bitter!
lutondown wrote:Buy her a season ticket for last seven home games, that will definately warm her to you.
Boosey wrote:Well if I do so be it, but I'd be the only one in my house doing so! Such is the chill! Lol
hornet88 wrote:I would like to unravel the crossed wires regarding LD's cross dressing. It's only on a Friday night and will answer to knickers down!
Boosey wrote:Glad you like it.
lutondown wrote:Just sang it? I have sung it hundreds of times already! LOLhornet88 wrote:Cross dress? Yeah ok. But I've just sang your song, it works!lutondown wrote:Will do my best....and I'll find you, I'm sure there's not many people who cross dress at football ;-)hornet88 wrote: Just one cassetti, Play him for me, Delicious football, From Italy, He's bearded, And 6ft 3, Marco cassetti, From Italy. Fits better with Italy if you ask me. Another song I made and posted on another thread... To the tune of the national anthem... God (or poz if you prefer) saved our football team, From that crook bassini, Watford fc, Do do do do, He sent us cassetti, Vydra and aaaabdi, Into the premier league, Watford f.c. *takes a bow* *the crowd go wild*88 get it going buddy! We'll join in. Remember middle bar, under TV.
LD the cross dress joke was to do with the secretary role you now have. Never mind.... I should work on my jokes rather than so many songs.
If only Carlesberg done apologies!
I'll live on my own i'll live on my own..that boy LD he'll live on his own!
Football widows just don't understand!
That LD bloke is gonna live on his own!
You might have to house share with a few of us!
andyhooked says...
3:45pm Wed 20 Feb 13