Bassini agrees to pay damages to Sordell's agent (From Watford Observer)
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Former Watford owner Laurence Bassini agrees to pay damages to Marvin Sordell's agent Sky Andrew
11:41am Tuesday 26th February 2013 in Sport
By Frank Smith, Deputy Group Sports Editor
Picture: Pippa Douglas
Laurence Bassini has agreed to pay damages and apologise to agent Sky Andrew over comments he made following the sale of Marvin Sordell to Bolton Wanderers.
The former Watford owner claimed Mr Sordell's agent demanded a "substantial sum" to extend the contract of the striker at the Hornets during an interview in the Watford Observer, which was published on February 17 2012.
Mr Bassini claimed a few months before Sordell's sale to Bolton, Mr Andrew "came to see us and said the only way Marvin would sign a contract is if he [the agent] received a substantial sum of money and that was never going to happen.
"Marvin has done nothing wrong in this whatsoever but his agent wanted a fee to facilitate a new contract and he told me he would do what he did with Sol Campbell and let his contract run down, so that was that."
Mr Andrew issued proceedings against Mr Bassini and stressed the allegations implied he put his own interests ahead of those of his client.
The sports and entertainment agent, who has Frank Bruno and Campbell among his clients, believed Mr Bassini's comments suggested he was seeking to elicit a bribe or other unwarranted payment from Watford so Sordell would extend his contract.
Mr Andrew felt this was defamation of his character and "particularly damaging" as seeking an unwarranted payment to facilitate a contract would be a criminal offence under the UK’s anti-bribery laws, as well as a breach of the FA's Code of Professional Conduct.
A statement was read out at the High Court of Justice Queen's Bench Division this morning. This included comments from Mr Andrew's advocate Korieh Duodu and also Hannah Ready, who was Mr Bassini's advocate.
In the statement, Mr Duodu said: "Mr Bassini does not accept that the words bear that meaning. He states that he intended to convey that the claimant had legitimately asked for his agent’s fee in order to facilitate a new contract.
"Mr Bassini has nevertheless agreed to join in this statement in open court in order to set the record straight and apologise to Mr Andrew for what he said to the Watford Observer.
"The true position is that Mr Andrew never requested any sort of facilitation payment in relation to Marvin Sordell’s contract extension. He negotiated firmly but fairly on behalf of his client, and would have been legally and contractually entitled to a commission on any payments made to Mr Sordell.
"Mr Andrew has painstakingly built a reputation as an honest and ethical football agent, in an industry which is much maligned and criticised. He has never acted in any way corruptly in relation to football transfers.
"Mr Bassini has agreed, as part of the settlement of these proceedings, to join in this statement and apologise to Mr Andrew. Among other terms of redress, he has also agreed not to repeat the words complained of. On that basis, Mr Andrew is content that these proceedings have achieved their purpose and can now be brought to a conclusion."
Mr Bassini has agreed to pay the agent a confidential sum of money in "commensurate damages", make a public apology, undertake not to repeat the allegations and pay Mr Andrew’s legal costs.
In the statement, Mr Bassini’s advocate said: "My Lord, I agree with everything Mr Duodu has said. It was never Mr Bassini’s intention to convey the allegations of which complaint is made or to say anything derogatory about the claimant. He does not dispute and never intended to suggest that Mr Andrew put his own interests before those of his client. He apologises to Mr Andrew sincerely and unreservedly for any contrary and unintended impression that was given."
Mr Andrew said: "This is a very pleasing result and I am delighted that this action has been brought to a successful conclusion. Football agents often get a bad name and I have worked hard to ensure that all my dealings are ethical and professional. These false allegations could have seriously damaged my reputation."
Comments(89)
akureyri
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11:51am Tue 26 Feb 13
MINTYHORNET
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11:54am Tue 26 Feb 13
Oracledave
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11:55am Tue 26 Feb 13
Only 2 Ross Jenkins
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11:59am Tue 26 Feb 13
Harry's Bar
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12:27pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Noodlehornet
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12:27pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote:Personalised Udinese shirt?
Perhaps the next photo of Baz will be a mug shot and him holding up his name and number. Probably wearing a black and white stripey top.
TommmB
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12:30pm Tue 26 Feb 13
The BestTrip2011
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12:42pm Tue 26 Feb 13
akureyri wrote:So I did! I knew we wouldn't have to wait long to see his smug mug pop up. Clown.
besttrip2011 you got your wish. Grinning Bas and red hat.
N Joydegame
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12:42pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Hopefully this will be the first of many lawsuits he loses, including WFC, the Football League, the Russo's and all the other people or companies he's ripped off. Most of all HMRC, and then a lengthy spell with HMP, please.
Congratulations to Sky for proving what a nasty little t*rd this bankrupt ripoff merchant really is !
Harry's Bar
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12:53pm Tue 26 Feb 13
N Joydegame wrote:Did we need any more proof?
Winning is one thing, getting money out of this bankrupt clown is another. Hopefully this will be the first of many lawsuits he loses, including WFC, the Football League, the Russo's and all the other people or companies he's ripped off. Most of all HMRC, and then a lengthy spell with HMP, please. Congratulations to Sky for proving what a nasty little t*rd this bankrupt ripoff merchant really is !
mattymashup
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1:08pm Tue 26 Feb 13
JohnnyHornet
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1:17pm Tue 26 Feb 13
jasonwatford wrote:More worryingly is that he passed the Football leagues fit and proper person test, hope they take some responsibility for their error of judgement in allowing him to be associated with the horns.....Bob Hope and no hope spring to mind.
Can the football league see what we had to deal with ?
Colin West's mullet
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1:18pm Tue 26 Feb 13
hahahahahahahaha
*ahem*
hahahahahaha
*dries eyes*
oh, that's made my day, it really has.
JohnnyHornet
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1:18pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote:What a Udinese strip, I don't think so LOL
Perhaps the next photo of Baz will be a mug shot and him holding up his name and number. Probably wearing a black and white stripey top.
Only 2 Ross Jenkins
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1:37pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Hornet Cornet
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1:38pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Colin West's mullet wrote:Careful, he might take you to court. Ha ha
"Mr Andrew has painstakingly built a reputation as an honest and ethical football agent." hahahahahahahaha *ahem* hahahahahaha *dries eyes* oh, that's made my day, it really has.
lutondown
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1:40pm Tue 26 Feb 13
The silence is deafening.
lutondown
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1:43pm Tue 26 Feb 13
JohnnyHornet wrote:The implications over the allowing of Bas to take over Watford extend to GT, Lord A's team,the FL.
jasonwatford wrote:More worryingly is that he passed the Football leagues fit and proper person test, hope they take some responsibility for their error of judgement in allowing him to be associated with the horns.....Bob Hope and no hope spring to mind.
Can the football league see what we had to deal with ?
Lord A being very powerful will not appreciate his good name tarnished, I hope that helps our case some.
Rumour ( I underline, rumour) on twitter us that we get a verdict Friday.
Travelling Hornet
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1:55pm Tue 26 Feb 13
a1derek
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1:55pm Tue 26 Feb 13
I just hope that once the FL make their decision (which hopefully will not penalise the current ownership) we can then draw a line under the Baz farce and move forward...and then enjoy the Baz sideshow as "good sport"!
Harry's Bar
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2:04pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Travelling Hornet wrote:I think you mean libel.
In this case I believe Bassini , sounds like he was very foolish to liable himself in the WO by making public a conversation he had no proof ever took place.
Harry's Bar
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2:07pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:A month after the case was heard. I've heard of foot dragging but this is ridiculous.
JohnnyHornet wrote:The implications over the allowing of Bas to take over Watford extend to GT, Lord A's team,the FL. Lord A being very powerful will not appreciate his good name tarnished, I hope that helps our case some. Rumour ( I underline, rumour) on twitter us that we get a verdict Friday.jasonwatford wrote: Can the football league see what we had to deal with ?More worryingly is that he passed the Football leagues fit and proper person test, hope they take some responsibility for their error of judgement in allowing him to be associated with the horns.....Bob Hope and no hope spring to mind.
lutondown
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2:34pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:Was you formerly known as the Dog and Partridge?
lutondown wrote:A month after the case was heard. I've heard of foot dragging but this is ridiculous.
JohnnyHornet wrote:The implications over the allowing of Bas to take over Watford extend to GT, Lord A's team,the FL. Lord A being very powerful will not appreciate his good name tarnished, I hope that helps our case some. Rumour ( I underline, rumour) on twitter us that we get a verdict Friday.jasonwatford wrote: Can the football league see what we had to deal with ?More worryingly is that he passed the Football leagues fit and proper person test, hope they take some responsibility for their error of judgement in allowing him to be associated with the horns.....Bob Hope and no hope spring to mind.
lutondown
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2:38pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:He's half correct because he was a liability.
Travelling Hornet wrote:I think you mean libel.
In this case I believe Bassini , sounds like he was very foolish to liable himself in the WO by making public a conversation he had no proof ever took place.
Think we knew what he meant though.
mk6 hornet
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2:47pm Tue 26 Feb 13
DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian
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2:48pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown
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2:53pm Tue 26 Feb 13
DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote:Ugli fruit! ( yes there is)!
I was wondering when that photo would next make an appearance, good to see it back.
Harry's Bar
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3:27pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Indeed there is.
DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote: I was wondering when that photo would next make an appearance, good to see it back.Ugli fruit! ( yes there is)!
Hope the coach bookings are going well.
lutondown
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3:28pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:What's your point Harry? It's full
lutondown wrote:Indeed there is.
DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote: I was wondering when that photo would next make an appearance, good to see it back.Ugli fruit! ( yes there is)!
Hope the coach bookings are going well.
Eastsussexhornet
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3:28pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:And I hope you have noticed LD that I have remained completely silent after your two posts to Harry's Bar.....!
Harry's Bar wrote:He's half correct because he was a liability.
Travelling Hornet wrote:I think you mean libel.
In this case I believe Bassini , sounds like he was very foolish to liable himself in the WO by making public a conversation he had no proof ever took place.
Think we knew what he meant though.
CARDIFFHORN
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3:30pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown
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3:30pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Eastsussexhornet wrote:Look I couldn't give a flying fig what you say or don't say ok.
lutondown wrote:And I hope you have noticed LD that I have remained completely silent after your two posts to Harry's Bar.....!
Harry's Bar wrote:He's half correct because he was a liability.
Travelling Hornet wrote:I think you mean libel.
In this case I believe Bassini , sounds like he was very foolish to liable himself in the WO by making public a conversation he had no proof ever took place.
Think we knew what he meant though.
If you want to carry a theme on, do so.
lutondown
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3:33pm Tue 26 Feb 13
CARDIFFHORN wrote:Nothing on news now, at all, I suspect we might have to wait until Fridays paper out until all is revealed, unless club put it up on their site.
More to the point what came out of the Q&A last night.
Someone who went posted on twitter that they expect FL verdict by Friday and unreserved seating discussed.
That's all really doing the rounds
Harry's Bar
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3:38pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:That's a shame, I heard that East Sussex was going to see if he could infiltrate.
Harry's Bar wrote:What's your point Harry? It's fulllutondown wrote:Indeed there is. Hope the coach bookings are going well.DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote: I was wondering when that photo would next make an appearance, good to see it back.Ugli fruit! ( yes there is)!
lutondown
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3:44pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:Again your point in carrying this on..it's a faceless row? Well except mine, I'm pretty visible.
lutondown wrote:That's a shame, I heard that East Sussex was going to see if he could infiltrate.
Harry's Bar wrote:What's your point Harry? It's fulllutondown wrote:Indeed there is. Hope the coach bookings are going well.DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote: I was wondering when that photo would next make an appearance, good to see it back.Ugli fruit! ( yes there is)!
Infiltrate? Be pretty hard to do that on a coach of people known to each other. But he could try...
Now you want to go on topic, or carry on with asides? Your choice matey
stevyweavy
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3:55pm Tue 26 Feb 13
mk6 hornet wrote:Just hope they don't take advantage of the fact that we have a 10 point cushion for a play-off place and so dish out a 10 point penalty which would push us down to 5th but importantly still in a play-off place in the hopes that we won't make too much of a fuss about it.
Yes it will be Friday when our punishment is heard do you get the feeling they want to hang us out to dry.
It would be a travesty but it does seem that certain people including the Football League powers that be seem to have it in for us at the moment and this would be a perfect opportunity to dish it out with minimal chance of any comeback. On the otherhand they may rather want to be rid of us so a hefty fine would help swell their coffers and hopefully we will be out of this league come the end of the season and hence would no longer be a problem for them as despite their claims of changing the foreign loan rules there is is by no means a guarantee that FIFA will be prepared to ratify it.
Harry's Bar
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3:56pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Only joshing LD. Let's just leave the asides and stick to topic.
Harry's Bar wrote:Again your point in carrying this on..it's a faceless row? Well except mine, I'm pretty visible. Infiltrate? Be pretty hard to do that on a coach of people known to each other. But he could try... Now you want to go on topic, or carry on with asides? Your choice mateylutondown wrote:That's a shame, I heard that East Sussex was going to see if he could infiltrate.Harry's Bar wrote:What's your point Harry? It's fulllutondown wrote:Indeed there is. Hope the coach bookings are going well.DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote: I was wondering when that photo would next make an appearance, good to see it back.Ugli fruit! ( yes there is)!
(Only I'll never know now what you meant about the "Dog & Partridge" now).
lutondown
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4:01pm Tue 26 Feb 13
stevyweavy wrote:Good points but they do have precedents to observe, ie QPR WHU. Both had third party dealing in transfer deals.
mk6 hornet wrote:Just hope they don't take advantage of the fact that we have a 10 point cushion for a play-off place and so dish out a 10 point penalty which would push us down to 5th but importantly still in a play-off place in the hopes that we won't make too much of a fuss about it.
Yes it will be Friday when our punishment is heard do you get the feeling they want to hang us out to dry.
It would be a travesty but it does seem that certain people including the Football League powers that be seem to have it in for us at the moment and this would be a perfect opportunity to dish it out with minimal chance of any comeback. On the otherhand they may rather want to be rid of us so a hefty fine would help swell their coffers and hopefully we will be out of this league come the end of the season and hence would no longer be a problem for them as despite their claims of changing the foreign loan rules there is is by no means a guarantee that FIFA will be prepared to ratify it.
Well we will know Friday, and what's more it will be the final say as there's no appeal. Facist rule!
PeteBogHorrorHornet
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4:07pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Please can you refresh my memory - what punishment did QPR and WHU get? Thanks
stevyweavy wrote:Good points but they do have precedents to observe, ie QPR WHU. Both had third party dealing in transfer deals.
mk6 hornet wrote:Just hope they don't take advantage of the fact that we have a 10 point cushion for a play-off place and so dish out a 10 point penalty which would push us down to 5th but importantly still in a play-off place in the hopes that we won't make too much of a fuss about it.
Yes it will be Friday when our punishment is heard do you get the feeling they want to hang us out to dry.
It would be a travesty but it does seem that certain people including the Football League powers that be seem to have it in for us at the moment and this would be a perfect opportunity to dish it out with minimal chance of any comeback. On the otherhand they may rather want to be rid of us so a hefty fine would help swell their coffers and hopefully we will be out of this league come the end of the season and hence would no longer be a problem for them as despite their claims of changing the foreign loan rules there is is by no means a guarantee that FIFA will be prepared to ratify it.
Well we will know Friday, and what's more it will be the final say as there's no appeal. Facist rule!
Hampshire hornet
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4:07pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lets talk football matters... LD has had worse thrown at him, if you want to meet a loyal vocal fan -- he is your man...
Lets all move on .. otherwise you will be called Bassini's .. maybe next home game we should all wear Bassini masks in recognition of his outstanding contribution to football...
#teamLD
lutondown
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4:09pm Tue 26 Feb 13
PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:Fines no point deductions.
lutondown wrote:Please can you refresh my memory - what punishment did QPR and WHU get? Thanks
stevyweavy wrote:Good points but they do have precedents to observe, ie QPR WHU. Both had third party dealing in transfer deals.
mk6 hornet wrote:Just hope they don't take advantage of the fact that we have a 10 point cushion for a play-off place and so dish out a 10 point penalty which would push us down to 5th but importantly still in a play-off place in the hopes that we won't make too much of a fuss about it.
Yes it will be Friday when our punishment is heard do you get the feeling they want to hang us out to dry.
It would be a travesty but it does seem that certain people including the Football League powers that be seem to have it in for us at the moment and this would be a perfect opportunity to dish it out with minimal chance of any comeback. On the otherhand they may rather want to be rid of us so a hefty fine would help swell their coffers and hopefully we will be out of this league come the end of the season and hence would no longer be a problem for them as despite their claims of changing the foreign loan rules there is is by no means a guarantee that FIFA will be prepared to ratify it.
Well we will know Friday, and what's more it will be the final say as there's no appeal. Facist rule!
lutondown
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4:11pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:I'm not sure if the fine was actually suspended in West Hams case??
PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:Fines no point deductions.
lutondown wrote:Please can you refresh my memory - what punishment did QPR and WHU get? Thanks
stevyweavy wrote:Good points but they do have precedents to observe, ie QPR WHU. Both had third party dealing in transfer deals.
mk6 hornet wrote:Just hope they don't take advantage of the fact that we have a 10 point cushion for a play-off place and so dish out a 10 point penalty which would push us down to 5th but importantly still in a play-off place in the hopes that we won't make too much of a fuss about it.
Yes it will be Friday when our punishment is heard do you get the feeling they want to hang us out to dry.
It would be a travesty but it does seem that certain people including the Football League powers that be seem to have it in for us at the moment and this would be a perfect opportunity to dish it out with minimal chance of any comeback. On the otherhand they may rather want to be rid of us so a hefty fine would help swell their coffers and hopefully we will be out of this league come the end of the season and hence would no longer be a problem for them as despite their claims of changing the foreign loan rules there is is by no means a guarantee that FIFA will be prepared to ratify it.
Well we will know Friday, and what's more it will be the final say as there's no appeal. Facist rule!
We'd take that!
andyhooked
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4:17pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Travelling Hornet
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4:20pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:Doh!
Travelling Hornet wrote:I think you mean libel.
In this case I believe Bassini , sounds like he was very foolish to liable himself in the WO by making public a conversation he had no proof ever took place.
lutondown
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4:25pm Tue 26 Feb 13
andyhooked wrote:Sorry mate, there is no appeal, fact. And I think the leak is a result of last nights
A virdict on Friday? Hope twitter is right because either way it should stop the uncertainty. Should the the FL verdict go against us than there are appeal processes. Such A God **** shame that we have this hanging over us when everything else is so brill! I wonder who is leaking on twitter or is it just the press trying to make a story.
Q and A with Scott Duxburry, and the so called Leaker was none other than Jon Marks!
DAVE THE HORNET
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4:35pm Tue 26 Feb 13
andyhooked
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4:36pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown
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4:41pm Tue 26 Feb 13
andyhooked wrote:It is not a leak FFS, it's just an answer to the question posed that do the club know when the FL will give verdict?Where's the leak? The date?! And ok if a process has a no appeal, Im Sure no court will over turn. But I remain confident the precedent is observed and until Friday what's the point of speculating?
Perhaps Luton Down there are processes outside of the FL including UK Courts and the Swiss-based Court of Arbitration. Quite honestly mate I do not know. If the leak is internal then that is bad because, as understand it, all parties were meant to keep shtum until the verdict is officialy made known
I'm stating the facts as they stand Andy not perhaps.
JohnnyHornet
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4:48pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Yeah, but you forget that West Ham are a big club, QPR lambs in the big world and we are " Little " Watford who dare not be allowed to want bigger things in a reputable way, thus the FL must stop them at all costs...............
lutondown wrote:I'm not sure if the fine was actually suspended in West Hams case??
PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:Fines no point deductions.
lutondown wrote:Please can you refresh my memory - what punishment did QPR and WHU get? Thanks
stevyweavy wrote:Good points but they do have precedents to observe, ie QPR WHU. Both had third party dealing in transfer deals.
mk6 hornet wrote:Just hope they don't take advantage of the fact that we have a 10 point cushion for a play-off place and so dish out a 10 point penalty which would push us down to 5th but importantly still in a play-off place in the hopes that we won't make too much of a fuss about it.
Yes it will be Friday when our punishment is heard do you get the feeling they want to hang us out to dry.
It would be a travesty but it does seem that certain people including the Football League powers that be seem to have it in for us at the moment and this would be a perfect opportunity to dish it out with minimal chance of any comeback. On the otherhand they may rather want to be rid of us so a hefty fine would help swell their coffers and hopefully we will be out of this league come the end of the season and hence would no longer be a problem for them as despite their claims of changing the foreign loan rules there is is by no means a guarantee that FIFA will be prepared to ratify it.
Well we will know Friday, and what's more it will be the final say as there's no appeal. Facist rule!
We'd take that!
...........COYGB
lutondown
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4:53pm Tue 26 Feb 13
JohnnyHornet wrote:I know that mate, but not even the 52 old **** at FL would surely dare dole out different punishments for same crimes? Anyway, we will know soon, and I really hope I'm right this time!
lutondown wrote:Yeah, but you forget that West Ham are a big club, QPR lambs in the big world and we are " Little " Watford who dare not be allowed to want bigger things in a reputable way, thus the FL must stop them at all costs...............
lutondown wrote:I'm not sure if the fine was actually suspended in West Hams case??
PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:Fines no point deductions.
lutondown wrote:Please can you refresh my memory - what punishment did QPR and WHU get? Thanks
stevyweavy wrote:Good points but they do have precedents to observe, ie QPR WHU. Both had third party dealing in transfer deals.
mk6 hornet wrote:Just hope they don't take advantage of the fact that we have a 10 point cushion for a play-off place and so dish out a 10 point penalty which would push us down to 5th but importantly still in a play-off place in the hopes that we won't make too much of a fuss about it.
Yes it will be Friday when our punishment is heard do you get the feeling they want to hang us out to dry.
It would be a travesty but it does seem that certain people including the Football League powers that be seem to have it in for us at the moment and this would be a perfect opportunity to dish it out with minimal chance of any comeback. On the otherhand they may rather want to be rid of us so a hefty fine would help swell their coffers and hopefully we will be out of this league come the end of the season and hence would no longer be a problem for them as despite their claims of changing the foreign loan rules there is is by no means a guarantee that FIFA will be prepared to ratify it.
Well we will know Friday, and what's more it will be the final say as there's no appeal. Facist rule!
We'd take that!
...........COYGB
andyhooked
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4:53pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown
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4:55pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:It's a pub! Now called Harry's bar.
lutondown wrote:Only joshing LD. Let's just leave the asides and stick to topic.
Harry's Bar wrote:Again your point in carrying this on..it's a faceless row? Well except mine, I'm pretty visible. Infiltrate? Be pretty hard to do that on a coach of people known to each other. But he could try... Now you want to go on topic, or carry on with asides? Your choice mateylutondown wrote:That's a shame, I heard that East Sussex was going to see if he could infiltrate.Harry's Bar wrote:What's your point Harry? It's fulllutondown wrote:Indeed there is. Hope the coach bookings are going well.DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote: I was wondering when that photo would next make an appearance, good to see it back.Ugli fruit! ( yes there is)!
(Only I'll never know now what you meant about the "Dog & Partridge" now).
JohnnyHornet
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4:57pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:It was 2 years ago ? they done QPR dementia would have set in with those old croaks by now.
JohnnyHornet wrote:I know that mate, but not even the 52 old **** at FL would surely dare dole out different punishments for same crimes? Anyway, we will know soon, and I really hope I'm right this time!
lutondown wrote:Yeah, but you forget that West Ham are a big club, QPR lambs in the big world and we are " Little " Watford who dare not be allowed to want bigger things in a reputable way, thus the FL must stop them at all costs...............
lutondown wrote:I'm not sure if the fine was actually suspended in West Hams case??
PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:Fines no point deductions.
lutondown wrote:Please can you refresh my memory - what punishment did QPR and WHU get? Thanks
stevyweavy wrote:Good points but they do have precedents to observe, ie QPR WHU. Both had third party dealing in transfer deals.
mk6 hornet wrote:Just hope they don't take advantage of the fact that we have a 10 point cushion for a play-off place and so dish out a 10 point penalty which would push us down to 5th but importantly still in a play-off place in the hopes that we won't make too much of a fuss about it.
Yes it will be Friday when our punishment is heard do you get the feeling they want to hang us out to dry.
It would be a travesty but it does seem that certain people including the Football League powers that be seem to have it in for us at the moment and this would be a perfect opportunity to dish it out with minimal chance of any comeback. On the otherhand they may rather want to be rid of us so a hefty fine would help swell their coffers and hopefully we will be out of this league come the end of the season and hence would no longer be a problem for them as despite their claims of changing the foreign loan rules there is is by no means a guarantee that FIFA will be prepared to ratify it.
Well we will know Friday, and what's more it will be the final say as there's no appeal. Facist rule!
We'd take that!
...........COYGB
lutondown
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5:20pm Tue 26 Feb 13
JohnnyHornet wrote:Good point...lol!
lutondown wrote:It was 2 years ago ? they done QPR dementia would have set in with those old croaks by now.
JohnnyHornet wrote:I know that mate, but not even the 52 old **** at FL would surely dare dole out different punishments for same crimes? Anyway, we will know soon, and I really hope I'm right this time!
lutondown wrote:Yeah, but you forget that West Ham are a big club, QPR lambs in the big world and we are " Little " Watford who dare not be allowed to want bigger things in a reputable way, thus the FL must stop them at all costs...............
lutondown wrote:I'm not sure if the fine was actually suspended in West Hams case??
PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:Fines no point deductions.
lutondown wrote:Please can you refresh my memory - what punishment did QPR and WHU get? Thanks
stevyweavy wrote:Good points but they do have precedents to observe, ie QPR WHU. Both had third party dealing in transfer deals.
mk6 hornet wrote:Just hope they don't take advantage of the fact that we have a 10 point cushion for a play-off place and so dish out a 10 point penalty which would push us down to 5th but importantly still in a play-off place in the hopes that we won't make too much of a fuss about it.
Yes it will be Friday when our punishment is heard do you get the feeling they want to hang us out to dry.
It would be a travesty but it does seem that certain people including the Football League powers that be seem to have it in for us at the moment and this would be a perfect opportunity to dish it out with minimal chance of any comeback. On the otherhand they may rather want to be rid of us so a hefty fine would help swell their coffers and hopefully we will be out of this league come the end of the season and hence would no longer be a problem for them as despite their claims of changing the foreign loan rules there is is by no means a guarantee that FIFA will be prepared to ratify it.
Well we will know Friday, and what's more it will be the final say as there's no appeal. Facist rule!
We'd take that!
...........COYGB
But be careful what you say about people with dementia, there's a few on here with that! Especially those ex Bas fans who've forgotten their love for the so called saviour!
Back from Hammerau
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6:19pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Stuart Timperley, who's sat on FL disciplinary panels in the past and is on the board, sounded pretty confident about the chances of there not being a serious punishment when he spoke at the fans forum.
lutondown
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6:22pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Back from Hammerau wrote:QPR were certainly in the FL and it was they who ruled not the PL but surely the FL and FA have parallel ideas on this? Who knows?
As I understand it, the West Ham and QPR cases weren't heard by the FL, so neither should create a precedent to be followed in our case.
Stuart Timperley, who's sat on FL disciplinary panels in the past and is on the board, sounded pretty confident about the chances of there not being a serious punishment when he spoke at the fans forum.
I think Timperley / Ashton connection will hold sway. I hope...!
Back from Hammerau
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6:46pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:QPR were in the FL at the time the offence was committed, but the case was brought by the FA, possibly because their promotion to the PL might have taken them outside the FL's jurisdiction by the time it was completed or a punishment had to be imposed.
Back from Hammerau wrote: As I understand it, the West Ham and QPR cases weren't heard by the FL, so neither should create a precedent to be followed in our case. Stuart Timperley, who's sat on FL disciplinary panels in the past and is on the board, sounded pretty confident about the chances of there not being a serious punishment when he spoke at the fans forum.QPR were certainly in the FL and it was they who ruled not the PL but surely the FL and FA have parallel ideas on this? Who knows? I think Timperley / Ashton connection will hold sway. I hope...!
The FL and FA may have similar rules, but they wouldn't be bound by each other's precedents.
There was only one Scully
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7:02pm Tue 26 Feb 13
a1derek wrote:GT walked away cos he did not agree with what was happening to our club especially with Baz (ask Timperly) The crook known as Lord Ashton was very instrumental and played a big roll in his introduction.
The entire Baz episode is a complete mess, we are so lucky to have Pozzos as owners now. GT probably knows an awful lot more than he has ever let on, indeed, his silence during the Baz era was deafening. I can only think he stayed on as long as he did to save the club from certain doom and as soon as he knew Pozzos were for real resigned to prompt the takeover. The "Good Lord" just wanted out ASAP he didn't give two hoots about Baz's suitability as long as he got his money out and washed his hands.
I just hope that once the FL make their decision (which hopefully will not penalise the current ownership) we can then draw a line under the Baz farce and move forward...and then enjoy the Baz sideshow as "good sport"!
Typical greedy f***ing tory only in it for what he was hoping to get out.
What ever happened to the Surgeon who rode shotgun with Baz at the time?
No mention and by all accounts he was his front/stooge and should be made accountable also!
All will be revealed very soon and I expect a points deduction!
peter10531089
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7:12pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Thank you Pozzo family
Back from Hammerau
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7:33pm Tue 26 Feb 13
There was only one Scully wrote:A few corrections
a1derek wrote: The entire Baz episode is a complete mess, we are so lucky to have Pozzos as owners now. GT probably knows an awful lot more than he has ever let on, indeed, his silence during the Baz era was deafening. I can only think he stayed on as long as he did to save the club from certain doom and as soon as he knew Pozzos were for real resigned to prompt the takeover. The "Good Lord" just wanted out ASAP he didn't give two hoots about Baz's suitability as long as he got his money out and washed his hands. I just hope that once the FL make their decision (which hopefully will not penalise the current ownership) we can then draw a line under the Baz farce and move forward...and then enjoy the Baz sideshow as "good sport"!GT walked away cos he did not agree with what was happening to our club especially with Baz (ask Timperly) The crook known as Lord Ashton was very instrumental and played a big roll in his introduction. Typical greedy f***ing tory only in it for what he was hoping to get out. What ever happened to the Surgeon who rode shotgun with Baz at the time? No mention and by all accounts he was his front/stooge and should be made accountable also! All will be revealed very soon and I expect a points deduction!
1) It's Ashcroft, not Ashton.
2) Lord Ashcroft did not intoduce anyone to anyone. Bassini was the only person who came to him offering to buy his shares in the club to whom he was prepared to sell.
3) Lord Ashcroft has made a loss as a result of his involvement with the club. On several occasions it was an injection of his money (including when the Russos were about to force it into administration) that kept the club afloat.
4) Graham Taylor resigned as chairman a couple of months before it was certain that the takeover would happen.
lutondown
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7:53pm Tue 26 Feb 13
There was only one Scully wrote:Well you only ever emerge when there's bad news!
a1derek wrote:GT walked away cos he did not agree with what was happening to our club especially with Baz (ask Timperly) The crook known as Lord Ashton was very instrumental and played a big roll in his introduction.
The entire Baz episode is a complete mess, we are so lucky to have Pozzos as owners now. GT probably knows an awful lot more than he has ever let on, indeed, his silence during the Baz era was deafening. I can only think he stayed on as long as he did to save the club from certain doom and as soon as he knew Pozzos were for real resigned to prompt the takeover. The "Good Lord" just wanted out ASAP he didn't give two hoots about Baz's suitability as long as he got his money out and washed his hands.
I just hope that once the FL make their decision (which hopefully will not penalise the current ownership) we can then draw a line under the Baz farce and move forward...and then enjoy the Baz sideshow as "good sport"!
Typical greedy f***ing tory only in it for what he was hoping to get out.
What ever happened to the Surgeon who rode shotgun with Baz at the time?
No mention and by all accounts he was his front/stooge and should be made accountable also!
All will be revealed very soon and I expect a points deduction!
lutondown
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7:58pm Tue 26 Feb 13
andyhooked wrote:As we all do mate. But I do think that in Duxburry we have a proper player.
Okay Luton Down. I understand where you are now coming from. Not at first clear to me as I was not at the Q&A session. Thank you but I still feel that should the FL not have followed the rules of natural justice then an appeal to the courts is a possibilty. In many walks of life Administrative Tribunals can review unjust decisions taken by government departments etc. You are right though. No point in speculating. A few sleepless nights for me though as I love my club through and through
I'm like you hoping it goes our way, and prefer to take the optimists view!
A public hanging whatever the decision eh?!
lutondown
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8:03pm Tue 26 Feb 13
There was only one Scully wrote:Tony Blair and his awful money grabbing wife not greedy eh? And Ashcroft though uninterested in club saved us, whether your socialist sensibilities are offended or not, and GT was one of parties who accepted Bas. He walked later.
a1derek wrote:GT walked away cos he did not agree with what was happening to our club especially with Baz (ask Timperly) The crook known as Lord Ashton was very instrumental and played a big roll in his introduction.
The entire Baz episode is a complete mess, we are so lucky to have Pozzos as owners now. GT probably knows an awful lot more than he has ever let on, indeed, his silence during the Baz era was deafening. I can only think he stayed on as long as he did to save the club from certain doom and as soon as he knew Pozzos were for real resigned to prompt the takeover. The "Good Lord" just wanted out ASAP he didn't give two hoots about Baz's suitability as long as he got his money out and washed his hands.
I just hope that once the FL make their decision (which hopefully will not penalise the current ownership) we can then draw a line under the Baz farce and move forward...and then enjoy the Baz sideshow as "good sport"!
Typical greedy f***ing tory only in it for what he was hoping to get out.
What ever happened to the Surgeon who rode shotgun with Baz at the time?
No mention and by all accounts he was his front/stooge and should be made accountable also!
All will be revealed very soon and I expect a points deduction!
Labour took us into two winless wars, left us skint, sold the nations Gold, opened the flood gates etc etc.
I'm neither party, they are all traitorous scum that have no place on our forums.
Sydneyhornet
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9:06pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Lets hope we get a fair verdict.
Then lets turn our focus to the remaining matches!
Wish I was there, but sentanta at 5:30am with a cuppa is all I can do!
I'll be listening to hear the new songs from the rookery - coyh
ChunkeyMonkey
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9:37pm Tue 26 Feb 13
There was only one Scully wrote:Er, not by the account I read - the Salad Boys are claiming against Bassini over money they claim they loaned him to buy the club, Bassini is claiming the money was not a loan. So, on the face of it Bassini might have been a front for the Russo's in their battle with Ashcroft and Simpson.
a1derek wrote:GT walked away cos he did not agree with what was happening to our club especially with Baz (ask Timperly) The crook known as Lord Ashton was very instrumental and played a big roll in his introduction.
The entire Baz episode is a complete mess, we are so lucky to have Pozzos as owners now. GT probably knows an awful lot more than he has ever let on, indeed, his silence during the Baz era was deafening. I can only think he stayed on as long as he did to save the club from certain doom and as soon as he knew Pozzos were for real resigned to prompt the takeover. The "Good Lord" just wanted out ASAP he didn't give two hoots about Baz's suitability as long as he got his money out and washed his hands.
I just hope that once the FL make their decision (which hopefully will not penalise the current ownership) we can then draw a line under the Baz farce and move forward...and then enjoy the Baz sideshow as "good sport"!
Typical greedy f***ing tory only in it for what he was hoping to get out.
What ever happened to the Surgeon who rode shotgun with Baz at the time?
No mention and by all accounts he was his front/stooge and should be made accountable also!
All will be revealed very soon and I expect a points deduction!
Like most I hope this all turns into an interesting sideshow as the 'Orns march onwards and upwards after the announcement due on Friday.
Bush Hornet
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10:03pm Tue 26 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Mate you know Blair was as much a socialist PM as Bas was a legitimate owner of a football club.
There was only one Scully wrote:Tony Blair and his awful money grabbing wife not greedy eh? And Ashcroft though uninterested in club saved us, whether your socialist sensibilities are offended or not, and GT was one of parties who accepted Bas. He walked later.
a1derek wrote:GT walked away cos he did not agree with what was happening to our club especially with Baz (ask Timperly) The crook known as Lord Ashton was very instrumental and played a big roll in his introduction.
The entire Baz episode is a complete mess, we are so lucky to have Pozzos as owners now. GT probably knows an awful lot more than he has ever let on, indeed, his silence during the Baz era was deafening. I can only think he stayed on as long as he did to save the club from certain doom and as soon as he knew Pozzos were for real resigned to prompt the takeover. The "Good Lord" just wanted out ASAP he didn't give two hoots about Baz's suitability as long as he got his money out and washed his hands.
I just hope that once the FL make their decision (which hopefully will not penalise the current ownership) we can then draw a line under the Baz farce and move forward...and then enjoy the Baz sideshow as "good sport"!
Typical greedy f***ing tory only in it for what he was hoping to get out.
What ever happened to the Surgeon who rode shotgun with Baz at the time?
No mention and by all accounts he was his front/stooge and should be made accountable also!
All will be revealed very soon and I expect a points deduction!
Labour took us into two winless wars, left us skint, sold the nations Gold, opened the flood gates etc etc.
I'm neither party, they are all traitorous scum that have no place on our forums.
Anyway, back to the thread, I remember GT once said he'd like to line up all players' agents against a wall and shoot the lot of them. Baz's big mistake was singling out just one and making it personal.
lutondown
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10:07pm Tue 26 Feb 13
Bush Hornet wrote:GT was right, Bas wrong.
lutondown wrote:Mate you know Blair was as much a socialist PM as Bas was a legitimate owner of a football club.
There was only one Scully wrote:Tony Blair and his awful money grabbing wife not greedy eh? And Ashcroft though uninterested in club saved us, whether your socialist sensibilities are offended or not, and GT was one of parties who accepted Bas. He walked later.
a1derek wrote:GT walked away cos he did not agree with what was happening to our club especially with Baz (ask Timperly) The crook known as Lord Ashton was very instrumental and played a big roll in his introduction.
The entire Baz episode is a complete mess, we are so lucky to have Pozzos as owners now. GT probably knows an awful lot more than he has ever let on, indeed, his silence during the Baz era was deafening. I can only think he stayed on as long as he did to save the club from certain doom and as soon as he knew Pozzos were for real resigned to prompt the takeover. The "Good Lord" just wanted out ASAP he didn't give two hoots about Baz's suitability as long as he got his money out and washed his hands.
I just hope that once the FL make their decision (which hopefully will not penalise the current ownership) we can then draw a line under the Baz farce and move forward...and then enjoy the Baz sideshow as "good sport"!
Typical greedy f***ing tory only in it for what he was hoping to get out.
What ever happened to the Surgeon who rode shotgun with Baz at the time?
No mention and by all accounts he was his front/stooge and should be made accountable also!
All will be revealed very soon and I expect a points deduction!
Labour took us into two winless wars, left us skint, sold the nations Gold, opened the flood gates etc etc.
I'm neither party, they are all traitorous scum that have no place on our forums.
Anyway, back to the thread, I remember GT once said he'd like to line up all players' agents against a wall and shoot the lot of them. Baz's big mistake was singling out just one and making it personal.
And I agree that Blair no socialist!
But Scully just a dour wee griper.
Liblabcon all wrong! Wrong forum!
neilhorn
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11:46pm Tue 26 Feb 13
But let's say they do. Ok, bring it on. Just imagine how much sweetermit will be when we still get automatic promotion anyway, cos we will, 10 point deduction or no 10 point deduction.
Harry's Bar
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10:28am Wed 27 Feb 13
ChunkeyMonkey wrote:I have to admit to being taken in by the surgeon connection, it leant Bas an air of respectability.
There was only one Scully wrote:Er, not by the account I read - the Salad Boys are claiming against Bassini over money they claim they loaned him to buy the club, Bassini is claiming the money was not a loan. So, on the face of it Bassini might have been a front for the Russo's in their battle with Ashcroft and Simpson. Like most I hope this all turns into an interesting sideshow as the 'Orns march onwards and upwards after the announcement due on Friday.a1derek wrote: The entire Baz episode is a complete mess, we are so lucky to have Pozzos as owners now. GT probably knows an awful lot more than he has ever let on, indeed, his silence during the Baz era was deafening. I can only think he stayed on as long as he did to save the club from certain doom and as soon as he knew Pozzos were for real resigned to prompt the takeover. The "Good Lord" just wanted out ASAP he didn't give two hoots about Baz's suitability as long as he got his money out and washed his hands. I just hope that once the FL make their decision (which hopefully will not penalise the current ownership) we can then draw a line under the Baz farce and move forward...and then enjoy the Baz sideshow as "good sport"!GT walked away cos he did not agree with what was happening to our club especially with Baz (ask Timperly) The crook known as Lord Ashton was very instrumental and played a big roll in his introduction. Typical greedy f***ing tory only in it for what he was hoping to get out. What ever happened to the Surgeon who rode shotgun with Baz at the time? No mention and by all accounts he was his front/stooge and should be made accountable also! All will be revealed very soon and I expect a points deduction!
Did anyone at the club check out the surgeon's credentials, was he a surgeon, did he actually exist?
lutondown
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10:33am Wed 27 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:Ah the elusive Doc Pantyhose! Second beloved after Bas to the dribbling tool 'ilovbas' I wonder what worm hole that nutjob slithered down?
ChunkeyMonkey wrote:I have to admit to being taken in by the surgeon connection, it leant Bas an air of respectability.
There was only one Scully wrote:Er, not by the account I read - the Salad Boys are claiming against Bassini over money they claim they loaned him to buy the club, Bassini is claiming the money was not a loan. So, on the face of it Bassini might have been a front for the Russo's in their battle with Ashcroft and Simpson. Like most I hope this all turns into an interesting sideshow as the 'Orns march onwards and upwards after the announcement due on Friday.a1derek wrote: The entire Baz episode is a complete mess, we are so lucky to have Pozzos as owners now. GT probably knows an awful lot more than he has ever let on, indeed, his silence during the Baz era was deafening. I can only think he stayed on as long as he did to save the club from certain doom and as soon as he knew Pozzos were for real resigned to prompt the takeover. The "Good Lord" just wanted out ASAP he didn't give two hoots about Baz's suitability as long as he got his money out and washed his hands. I just hope that once the FL make their decision (which hopefully will not penalise the current ownership) we can then draw a line under the Baz farce and move forward...and then enjoy the Baz sideshow as "good sport"!GT walked away cos he did not agree with what was happening to our club especially with Baz (ask Timperly) The crook known as Lord Ashton was very instrumental and played a big roll in his introduction. Typical greedy f***ing tory only in it for what he was hoping to get out. What ever happened to the Surgeon who rode shotgun with Baz at the time? No mention and by all accounts he was his front/stooge and should be made accountable also! All will be revealed very soon and I expect a points deduction!
Did anyone at the club check out the surgeon's credentials, was he a surgeon, did he actually exist?
A twice bankrupt, a name changer? Nothing could have convinced me. I do remember the flak I got for saying that!
Harry's Bar
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12:36pm Wed 27 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:God yes, let's not bring politics into it. There's been enough infighting recently.
Bush Hornet wrote:GT was right, Bas wrong. And I agree that Blair no socialist! But Scully just a dour wee griper. Liblabcon all wrong! Wrong forum!lutondown wrote:Mate you know Blair was as much a socialist PM as Bas was a legitimate owner of a football club. Anyway, back to the thread, I remember GT once said he'd like to line up all players' agents against a wall and shoot the lot of them. Baz's big mistake was singling out just one and making it personal.There was only one Scully wrote:Tony Blair and his awful money grabbing wife not greedy eh? And Ashcroft though uninterested in club saved us, whether your socialist sensibilities are offended or not, and GT was one of parties who accepted Bas. He walked later. Labour took us into two winless wars, left us skint, sold the nations Gold, opened the flood gates etc etc. I'm neither party, they are all traitorous scum that have no place on our forums.a1derek wrote: The entire Baz episode is a complete mess, we are so lucky to have Pozzos as owners now. GT probably knows an awful lot more than he has ever let on, indeed, his silence during the Baz era was deafening. I can only think he stayed on as long as he did to save the club from certain doom and as soon as he knew Pozzos were for real resigned to prompt the takeover. The "Good Lord" just wanted out ASAP he didn't give two hoots about Baz's suitability as long as he got his money out and washed his hands. I just hope that once the FL make their decision (which hopefully will not penalise the current ownership) we can then draw a line under the Baz farce and move forward...and then enjoy the Baz sideshow as "good sport"!GT walked away cos he did not agree with what was happening to our club especially with Baz (ask Timperly) The crook known as Lord Ashton was very instrumental and played a big roll in his introduction. Typical greedy f***ing tory only in it for what he was hoping to get out. What ever happened to the Surgeon who rode shotgun with Baz at the time? No mention and by all accounts he was his front/stooge and should be made accountable also! All will be revealed very soon and I expect a points deduction!
Boosey
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1:46pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Sydneyhornet wrote:Turn the volume up full blast and you just might hear!
Come on lads! Lets hope we get a fair verdict. Then lets turn our focus to the remaining matches! Wish I was there, but sentanta at 5:30am with a cuppa is all I can do! I'll be listening to hear the new songs from the rookery - coyh
Boosey
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1:48pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:Gramma police!
Travelling Hornet wrote: In this case I believe Bassini , sounds like he was very foolish to liable himself in the WO by making public a conversation he had no proof ever took place.I think you mean libel.
Boosey
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1:58pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Sorry but only a few people will understand this post!
If you do, feel free to reply.
lutondown
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2:04pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:And it goes to show how liberal and diverse our coach is..Vince is on it! Lol
We will get 20pt deduction or a 6 hour sermon on how to boil an egg from Mr. O Malley, take your pick. I know it's a very difficult decision.
Sorry but only a few people will understand this post!
If you do, feel free to reply.
Boosey
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2:14pm Wed 27 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:And it's now full, what a shame, was hoping Harry's bar and ESH would be joining us but they would have enjoyed themselves too much, so just as well.
Boosey wrote: We will get 20pt deduction or a 6 hour sermon on how to boil an egg from Mr. O Malley, take your pick. I know it's a very difficult decision. Sorry but only a few people will understand this post! If you do, feel free to reply.And it goes to show how liberal and diverse our coach is..Vince is on it! Lol
Maybe next time .
Harry's Bar
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3:13pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:I genuinly hope you guys have a great day.
lutondown wrote:And it's now full, what a shame, was hoping Harry's bar and ESH would be joining us but they would have enjoyed themselves too much, so just as well. Maybe next time .Boosey wrote: We will get 20pt deduction or a 6 hour sermon on how to boil an egg from Mr. O Malley, take your pick. I know it's a very difficult decision. Sorry but only a few people will understand this post! If you do, feel free to reply.And it goes to show how liberal and diverse our coach is..Vince is on it! Lol
I just can't see the point of singing on a coach, no one can hear you. For me it's rather akin to a child that keeps crying even though nobody comes.... futile.
Each to their own though. LD, please don't take offence.
Boosey
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3:41pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:Some parent you are!
Boosey wrote:I genuinly hope you guys have a great day. I just can't see the point of singing on a coach, no one can hear you. For me it's rather akin to a child that keeps crying even though nobody comes.... futile. Each to their own though. LD, please don't take offence.lutondown wrote:And it's now full, what a shame, was hoping Harry's bar and ESH would be joining us but they would have enjoyed themselves too much, so just as well. Maybe next time .Boosey wrote: We will get 20pt deduction or a 6 hour sermon on how to boil an egg from Mr. O Malley, take your pick. I know it's a very difficult decision. Sorry but only a few people will understand this post! If you do, feel free to reply.And it goes to show how liberal and diverse our coach is..Vince is on it! Lol
lutondown
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4:30pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:Why would I take offence Harry? It's mandatory we sing on our coach, so we have 57 people go into ground and these new songs get lift off.
Boosey wrote:I genuinly hope you guys have a great day.
lutondown wrote:And it's now full, what a shame, was hoping Harry's bar and ESH would be joining us but they would have enjoyed themselves too much, so just as well. Maybe next time .Boosey wrote: We will get 20pt deduction or a 6 hour sermon on how to boil an egg from Mr. O Malley, take your pick. I know it's a very difficult decision. Sorry but only a few people will understand this post! If you do, feel free to reply.And it goes to show how liberal and diverse our coach is..Vince is on it! Lol
I just can't see the point of singing on a coach, no one can hear you. For me it's rather akin to a child that keeps crying even though nobody comes.... futile.
Each to their own though. LD, please don't take offence.
Whatever people think of 'noise' the players love it, and we need to start changing the passive, Sunday afternoon feel to the Vic.
I do appreciate it's not for everyone, but all the more reason for like minded souls to have their own patch.
I know it's not only youngsters, as myself and Boosey are sadly not that any more, And i know of a 65 Year old neighbour that would like to be among atmosphere.
I've only ever got annoyed twice on this forum Harry, where people have very deliberately twisted words to suit their own agenda.
So you carry on
londomollari
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4:39pm Wed 27 Feb 13
KeithMercer
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4:39pm Wed 27 Feb 13
neilhorn wrote:Liking your positivity and spirit Neil !
If we get a ten point pen, it will be ridiculous. Who will suffer, Baz? No, he couldn't give a toss. So what would it achieve? One ca only assume then that should we get a points deduction, that it's designed to stop us getting promoted. Why would the FL want to do that? The common perception seems to be because we registered loads of loan players with them. I don't think realistically they would be that vindictive tbh, and it would be so transparent.
But let's say they do. Ok, bring it on. Just imagine how much sweetermit will be when we still get automatic promotion anyway, cos we will, 10 point deduction or no 10 point deduction.
would rather do things the easy way though and have automatic wrapped up with games to spare.Fingers crossed guys for a fair outcome to BAZ,S mess.
lutondown
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4:45pm Wed 27 Feb 13
londomollari wrote:Fair play. It's all a bit new to me as well. But I've often thought this ground is like a bloody morgue, so I'm just trying to shake off the self conscious chains and let go. The beer helps!
I am a quiet, reserved sort (yes, really) who goes to a match, groans, cheers and so on. But I have never been able to join in the songs and chants. Why? Dunno---just the way I am. But I love the songs and chants just the same, and am perfectly happy if those around me join in. It is the moaning minnies that annoy me---the ones who go to the match to whings and criticise. So good luck to all of you who make the noise and atmosphere. But I promise to try to join in--!
mk6 hornet
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5:27pm Wed 27 Feb 13
lutondown
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5:49pm Wed 27 Feb 13
mk6 hornet wrote:Be glad when it's done and dusted.
We will be fine just a fine and possible suspended points deduction.
londomollari
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6:34pm Wed 27 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Being a natural pessimist, I expect a points deduction. But the good thing is, I am often wrong, and I look forward to the pleasure of being proved wrong. I, too, will be glad when it's over.
mk6 hornet wrote:Be glad when it's done and dusted.
We will be fine just a fine and possible suspended points deduction.
mk6 hornet
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6:34pm Wed 27 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Agreed not long now we will find out by friday so more than likely tommorrow.
mk6 hornet wrote:Be glad when it's done and dusted.
We will be fine just a fine and possible suspended points deduction.
mk6 hornet
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6:37pm Wed 27 Feb 13
londomollari wrote:even if we do it will be ten points so will still be in the top 6
lutondown wrote:Being a natural pessimist, I expect a points deduction. But the good thing is, I am often wrong, and I look forward to the pleasure of being proved wrong. I, too, will be glad when it's over.
mk6 hornet wrote:Be glad when it's done and dusted.
We will be fine just a fine and possible suspended points deduction.
Back from Hammerau
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8:40am Thu 28 Feb 13
jasonwatford says...
11:49am Tue 26 Feb 13