Former Hornets director's suite steward Stephen Dunham reflects on 75 years supporting Watford and meeting Liverpool legend Bill Shankly

Stephen Dunham.

Stephen Dunham.

First published in Sport by , Group Sports Editor

Forty-Three years ago last week on February 21, 1970, 34,047 fans crammed into Vicarage Road to watch Watford pull off one of the great results in their history when Ken Furphy’s side beat Bill Shankly’s Liverpool 1-0 in the sixth round of the FA Cup thanks to a famous Barry Endean goal.

It was also the day when Stephen Dunham began work as the director’s suite steward at the club, a role he was to fulfil for 37 years before he was made redundant on the eve of the 2007/08 season.

Six years on and now aged 83, Steve remains a Hornets fan – “Watford was my life” – and last month marked the 75th anniversary of him visiting Vicarage Road for the first time when his elder brother, Peter, took him along to watch a 1-1 draw with Gillingham as a birthday present.

From that January 1938 day onwards, Watford-born Steve was hooked and he went on to have a number of different jobs at the club before his director’s suite role brought him into contact with some of the most famous names in football and beyond, coinciding with the club’s golden era.

Reflecting on his lifelong passion for the club when we met at his Tring home a fortnight ago, the retired sales development manager for John Dickinson at Nash Mills recalled being a ballboy and programme seller at Vicarage Road in the 1940s before starting his national service.

After spending six months in the Royal Navy and 18 months in the army during which “my family used to send me the West Herts Post and Watford Observer every week to keep me in touch with the Blues for football and Kings Langley for cricket”, Steve was back following Watford “north, south, east and west” and became a turnstile operator in the Shrodells Stand.

He soon became involved with Watford Supporters Club, was co-opted on to their committee in 1958 and became area manager for the weekly club tote collecting £150 a week from eight agents in Hemel Hempstead.

“Early in the 1958/59 season I remember Watford FC chairman Mr (Jim) Bonser and director Mr (Doug) Broad turning up for the Supporters Club monthly meeting,” said Steve, whose daughter Lynne is married to John Smith, the son of late director and vice-chairman Geoff Smith.

“They wanted £3,000 to sign a new player and would not go until they convinced the committee to come up with a cheque. They said they could not divulge the name of the player at the time, it was highly confidential.

“The committee finally agreed and gave them a cheque. It turned out to be to sign Cliff Holton from Arsenal, which was probably the best ever signing in the history of Watford FC.”

Steve remained on the Supporters Club until 1965 when he resigned to become membership secretary of the newly-formed Watford FC Supporters Club. Five years later he was appointed director’s suite steward by club secretary Ron Rollitt.

Recalling the events of his first day, Shankly asked for a results sheet to be brought to the dressing room after the game. Steve was invited in and remembered: “When I went in the Liverpool players were just sitting with their heads in their hands. You could have heard a pin drop.

“Mr Shankly put his hand on my shoulder and went through the results, passing comments. He thanked me, kept the results sheet and I went back to my post.

“Before leaving to go back to Liverpool, Mr Shankly came to thank us for our help and hospitality and said Watford were a credit to the game for our friendship and hospitality, which was a lot better than a lot of clubs whom they visited regularly.

“He was such a wonderful friendly and sociable man. No wonder he was so well liked all over the football world. He was a person I will never forget.”

Steve also has good memories of meeting plenty of other football people including Brian Clough – “a really nice friendly man” – and Bill Nicholson, as well as celebrities such as Rod Stewart and Billie Jean King, who were guests of Elton John at games, and politician Michael Foot.

Perhaps unsurprisingly though, it is the Graham Taylor years which is remembered with particular fondness by Steve, whose favourite Watford game was the 7-1 League Cup victory over Southampton after the Hornets had lost the first leg 4-0.

“Not only did he do a great job at Watford, but he did a lot of good for English football,” he said. “I remember when he introduced the Family Enclosure beside the Main Stand, the first to do so in the country and now practically every club has one.

“The Graham Taylor era was by far the best in my 75 years as a Watford supporter.”

The manner in which those 37 years were abruptly ended when the Graham Simpson-Mark Ashton regime was at the Vicarage Road helm still hurts though.

“Being made redundant after all those years being part of the match-day team came as a complete shock,” Steve admitted. “I’ve lost a lot of interest not being involved but can’t keep away and still go as often as possible.”

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10:02am Wed 27 Feb 13

craig239 says...

Steve
Ray Luggs cross What a goal!
Watford is in our blood!
Steve Ray Luggs cross What a goal! Watford is in our blood! craig239
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10:22am Wed 27 Feb 13

londomollari says...

Great game, great crowd, great atmosphere, and the greatest game of Ray Luggs career.
This article reminds me of a girl I was friendly with, in the mid 1980's. Having a meal in an Italian Restaurant (opposite the end of Market street) she was sexually molested by a diner at the next table. Her and her sister had to walk out, followed b y the manager who apologised, but refused to do anything else as 'he is my best customer'.
'Dirty, filthy, disgusting old man' she said. 'Told me 'do you know who I am? I am ****** ******'' . My friend and I couldn't believe what she told us---it was a very well known Watford footballer of the 50's. (NOT Big Cliff!)
Great game, great crowd, great atmosphere, and the greatest game of Ray Luggs career. This article reminds me of a girl I was friendly with, in the mid 1980's. Having a meal in an Italian Restaurant (opposite the end of Market street) she was sexually molested by a diner at the next table. Her and her sister had to walk out, followed b y the manager who apologised, but refused to do anything else as 'he is my best customer'. 'Dirty, filthy, disgusting old man' she said. 'Told me 'do you know who I am? I am ****** ******'' . My friend and I couldn't believe what she told us---it was a very well known Watford footballer of the 50's. (NOT Big Cliff!) londomollari
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10:32am Wed 27 Feb 13

londomollari says...

Stephens team---Don't know about the defense, but what a forward line!!!!
Stephens team---Don't know about the defense, but what a forward line!!!! londomollari
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11:12am Wed 27 Feb 13

mellow yellow says...

Can't argue with Coton and McClelland, surely?
Can't argue with Coton and McClelland, surely? mellow yellow
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11:12am Wed 27 Feb 13

watford1881 says...

My grandad played for Watford in these days.. Just before & after the war...
My grandad played for Watford in these days.. Just before & after the war... watford1881
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11:16am Wed 27 Feb 13

Eastsussexhornet says...

craig239 wrote:
Steve
Ray Luggs cross What a goal!
Watford is in our blood!
And I couldn't get a ticket! My dad took me to see Spurs v Stoke that day instead. I then saw the highlights on MOTD....memories.
[quote][p][bold]craig239[/bold] wrote: Steve Ray Luggs cross What a goal! Watford is in our blood![/p][/quote]And I couldn't get a ticket! My dad took me to see Spurs v Stoke that day instead. I then saw the highlights on MOTD....memories. Eastsussexhornet
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12:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Harry's Bar says...

Fancy making that guy redundant. Absolutely classless.
Fancy making that guy redundant. Absolutely classless. Harry's Bar
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12:44pm Wed 27 Feb 13

tommy gunn says...

Absolutely,Steve is a top man who has been a loyal supporter and fine ambassador for the club over many years.To make him redundant was ridiculous.Pleased to see that he is still going to a few games and remembers a few of the old ones in his team especially Cliff, what a player he was.Not enough recognition is given to those who help behind the scenes.
Absolutely,Steve is a top man who has been a loyal supporter and fine ambassador for the club over many years.To make him redundant was ridiculous.Pleased to see that he is still going to a few games and remembers a few of the old ones in his team especially Cliff, what a player he was.Not enough recognition is given to those who help behind the scenes. tommy gunn
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12:56pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Colin West's mullet says...

Tim Sherwood ahead of Brian Talbot?
Tim Sherwood ahead of Brian Talbot? Colin West's mullet
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12:57pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Harry's Bar says...

tommy gunn wrote:
Absolutely,Steve is a top man who has been a loyal supporter and fine ambassador for the club over many years.To make him redundant was ridiculous.Pleased to see that he is still going to a few games and remembers a few of the old ones in his team especially Cliff, what a player he was.Not enough recognition is given to those who help behind the scenes.
It would be a nice gesture for the club to invite him to a game as their guest.
[quote][p][bold]tommy gunn[/bold] wrote: Absolutely,Steve is a top man who has been a loyal supporter and fine ambassador for the club over many years.To make him redundant was ridiculous.Pleased to see that he is still going to a few games and remembers a few of the old ones in his team especially Cliff, what a player he was.Not enough recognition is given to those who help behind the scenes.[/p][/quote]It would be a nice gesture for the club to invite him to a game as their guest. Harry's Bar
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1:19pm Wed 27 Feb 13

gloryhornet4 says...

Eastsussexhornet wrote:
craig239 wrote:
Steve
Ray Luggs cross What a goal!
Watford is in our blood!
And I couldn't get a ticket! My dad took me to see Spurs v Stoke that day instead. I then saw the highlights on MOTD....memories.
The MOTD highlights are on You Tube.

Later Shankly said of that game WFC were the worst side ever to beat Scousepie. Sour grapes especially as WFC should have scored more. Lucky to beat WFC earlier in the season in the League Cup.
[quote][p][bold]Eastsussexhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]craig239[/bold] wrote: Steve Ray Luggs cross What a goal! Watford is in our blood![/p][/quote]And I couldn't get a ticket! My dad took me to see Spurs v Stoke that day instead. I then saw the highlights on MOTD....memories.[/p][/quote]The MOTD highlights are on You Tube. Later Shankly said of that game WFC were the worst side ever to beat Scousepie. Sour grapes especially as WFC should have scored more. Lucky to beat WFC earlier in the season in the League Cup. gloryhornet4
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1:23pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Chris the Vic says...

Steve never saw Eggleston play ..a couple of years before my time, Glad to hear you still attend and are going strong.

Great team but shame there was no place for Duncan W and Keith Eddy. As for the five forwards...suspect Luther would get in way but you have to include him. As for Holton and Uphill they were not pretty but were so very effective, best pairing I have ever seen at the Vic and Ross and Luther were very good.

As for best result...7.1 against Soton was great but they rested Keegan and Shilton, but when we beat a full strength Forest 4.1 and they were reigning European Champions it has to be the best in the history of WFC
Great days under GT and Elton, and what great support we had then.
Steve never saw Eggleston play ..a couple of years before my time, Glad to hear you still attend and are going strong. Great team but shame there was no place for Duncan W and Keith Eddy. As for the five forwards...suspect Luther would get in way but you have to include him. As for Holton and Uphill they were not pretty but were so very effective, best pairing I have ever seen at the Vic and Ross and Luther were very good. As for best result...7.1 against Soton was great but they rested Keegan and Shilton, but when we beat a full strength Forest 4.1 and they were reigning European Champions it has to be the best in the history of WFC Great days under GT and Elton, and what great support we had then. Chris the Vic
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1:56pm Wed 27 Feb 13

TommmB says...

londomollari wrote:
Great game, great crowd, great atmosphere, and the greatest game of Ray Luggs career. This article reminds me of a girl I was friendly with, in the mid 1980's. Having a meal in an Italian Restaurant (opposite the end of Market street) she was sexually molested by a diner at the next table. Her and her sister had to walk out, followed b y the manager who apologised, but refused to do anything else as 'he is my best customer'. 'Dirty, filthy, disgusting old man' she said. 'Told me 'do you know who I am? I am ****** ******'' . My friend and I couldn't believe what she told us---it was a very well known Watford footballer of the 50's. (NOT Big Cliff!)
Marlon King?
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Great game, great crowd, great atmosphere, and the greatest game of Ray Luggs career. This article reminds me of a girl I was friendly with, in the mid 1980's. Having a meal in an Italian Restaurant (opposite the end of Market street) she was sexually molested by a diner at the next table. Her and her sister had to walk out, followed b y the manager who apologised, but refused to do anything else as 'he is my best customer'. 'Dirty, filthy, disgusting old man' she said. 'Told me 'do you know who I am? I am ****** ******'' . My friend and I couldn't believe what she told us---it was a very well known Watford footballer of the 50's. (NOT Big Cliff!)[/p][/quote]Marlon King? TommmB
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2:06pm Wed 27 Feb 13

JonBoy says...

londomollari wrote:
Great game, great crowd, great atmosphere, and the greatest game of Ray Luggs career.
This article reminds me of a girl I was friendly with, in the mid 1980's. Having a meal in an Italian Restaurant (opposite the end of Market street) she was sexually molested by a diner at the next table. Her and her sister had to walk out, followed b y the manager who apologised, but refused to do anything else as 'he is my best customer'.
'Dirty, filthy, disgusting old man' she said. 'Told me 'do you know who I am? I am ****** ******'' . My friend and I couldn't believe what she told us---it was a very well known Watford footballer of the 50's. (NOT Big Cliff!)
That was called the Casa Roma I believe, next door to the Empire cinema more or less.
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Great game, great crowd, great atmosphere, and the greatest game of Ray Luggs career. This article reminds me of a girl I was friendly with, in the mid 1980's. Having a meal in an Italian Restaurant (opposite the end of Market street) she was sexually molested by a diner at the next table. Her and her sister had to walk out, followed b y the manager who apologised, but refused to do anything else as 'he is my best customer'. 'Dirty, filthy, disgusting old man' she said. 'Told me 'do you know who I am? I am ****** ******'' . My friend and I couldn't believe what she told us---it was a very well known Watford footballer of the 50's. (NOT Big Cliff!)[/p][/quote]That was called the Casa Roma I believe, next door to the Empire cinema more or less. JonBoy
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2:07pm Wed 27 Feb 13

holtonian says...

One thing for certain is i doubt if many struck a ball harder than Cliff.Its nice to read of old timers best players.It is hard to judge as a lot of players played at a lower level in the past.Just as an instance no mention of Pat Rice or of Pat Jennings.But its nice to see opinions.
One thing for certain is i doubt if many struck a ball harder than Cliff.Its nice to read of old timers best players.It is hard to judge as a lot of players played at a lower level in the past.Just as an instance no mention of Pat Rice or of Pat Jennings.But its nice to see opinions. holtonian
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2:08pm Wed 27 Feb 13

JonBoy says...

TommmB wrote:
londomollari wrote:
Great game, great crowd, great atmosphere, and the greatest game of Ray Luggs career. This article reminds me of a girl I was friendly with, in the mid 1980's. Having a meal in an Italian Restaurant (opposite the end of Market street) she was sexually molested by a diner at the next table. Her and her sister had to walk out, followed b y the manager who apologised, but refused to do anything else as 'he is my best customer'. 'Dirty, filthy, disgusting old man' she said. 'Told me 'do you know who I am? I am ****** ******'' . My friend and I couldn't believe what she told us---it was a very well known Watford footballer of the 50's. (NOT Big Cliff!)
Marlon King?
Nah King would have broken her jaw
[quote][p][bold]TommmB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Great game, great crowd, great atmosphere, and the greatest game of Ray Luggs career. This article reminds me of a girl I was friendly with, in the mid 1980's. Having a meal in an Italian Restaurant (opposite the end of Market street) she was sexually molested by a diner at the next table. Her and her sister had to walk out, followed b y the manager who apologised, but refused to do anything else as 'he is my best customer'. 'Dirty, filthy, disgusting old man' she said. 'Told me 'do you know who I am? I am ****** ******'' . My friend and I couldn't believe what she told us---it was a very well known Watford footballer of the 50's. (NOT Big Cliff!)[/p][/quote]Marlon King?[/p][/quote]Nah King would have broken her jaw JonBoy
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2:14pm Wed 27 Feb 13

londomollari says...

JonBoy wrote:
londomollari wrote:
Great game, great crowd, great atmosphere, and the greatest game of Ray Luggs career.
This article reminds me of a girl I was friendly with, in the mid 1980's. Having a meal in an Italian Restaurant (opposite the end of Market street) she was sexually molested by a diner at the next table. Her and her sister had to walk out, followed b y the manager who apologised, but refused to do anything else as 'he is my best customer'.
'Dirty, filthy, disgusting old man' she said. 'Told me 'do you know who I am? I am ****** ******'' . My friend and I couldn't believe what she told us---it was a very well known Watford footballer of the 50's. (NOT Big Cliff!)
That was called the Casa Roma I believe, next door to the Empire cinema more or less.
That's the one! Couldn't remember the name. My friend (who was 'going out' with the girl) was going to find the guy and give him a kicking---we told him no---unless he wanted to be on the front page of the Wobby. The girl was fiery and had a full repertoir of Anglo Saxon---it would have been a very loud encounter---.
[quote][p][bold]JonBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Great game, great crowd, great atmosphere, and the greatest game of Ray Luggs career. This article reminds me of a girl I was friendly with, in the mid 1980's. Having a meal in an Italian Restaurant (opposite the end of Market street) she was sexually molested by a diner at the next table. Her and her sister had to walk out, followed b y the manager who apologised, but refused to do anything else as 'he is my best customer'. 'Dirty, filthy, disgusting old man' she said. 'Told me 'do you know who I am? I am ****** ******'' . My friend and I couldn't believe what she told us---it was a very well known Watford footballer of the 50's. (NOT Big Cliff!)[/p][/quote]That was called the Casa Roma I believe, next door to the Empire cinema more or less.[/p][/quote]That's the one! Couldn't remember the name. My friend (who was 'going out' with the girl) was going to find the guy and give him a kicking---we told him no---unless he wanted to be on the front page of the Wobby. The girl was fiery and had a full repertoir of Anglo Saxon---it would have been a very loud encounter---. londomollari
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3:12pm Wed 27 Feb 13

hornet1968 says...

It was a great day went with my Dad & Mum I was 5, we stood at the Vic end, my dad went for a pee at half time we did not see him untill we got home. I remember my mum holding the hood on my coat on the way out as my feet did not touch the ground until we got down as far as the lights past the hospital. What a day!
It was a great day went with my Dad & Mum I was 5, we stood at the Vic end, my dad went for a pee at half time we did not see him untill we got home. I remember my mum holding the hood on my coat on the way out as my feet did not touch the ground until we got down as far as the lights past the hospital. What a day! hornet1968
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3:43pm Wed 27 Feb 13

andyhooked says...

I was there and what a great day. Even when some Scouser scum bag nicked the scarf off of my neck it was still a great day. Remember queing up for tickets and as a kid it was a long walk to pick up the old 347 bus to get to the ground from Northwood Hills and a long walk to get the bus. Now, with this story in mind, I am banging on again about the SW corner when completed being named after Ken Furphy!!!
I was there and what a great day. Even when some Scouser scum bag nicked the scarf off of my neck it was still a great day. Remember queing up for tickets and as a kid it was a long walk to pick up the old 347 bus to get to the ground from Northwood Hills and a long walk to get the bus. Now, with this story in mind, I am banging on again about the SW corner when completed being named after Ken Furphy!!! andyhooked
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3:53pm Wed 27 Feb 13

SAHornet says...

Remember it well. Tumbling forward in The Rookery as Endean's header hit the back of the net and the pitch invasion after the final whistle went. I was 14 years old. Ahhh, happy days.
Remember it well. Tumbling forward in The Rookery as Endean's header hit the back of the net and the pitch invasion after the final whistle went. I was 14 years old. Ahhh, happy days. SAHornet
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4:26pm Wed 27 Feb 13

londomollari says...

andyhooked wrote:
I was there and what a great day. Even when some Scouser scum bag nicked the scarf off of my neck it was still a great day. Remember queing up for tickets and as a kid it was a long walk to pick up the old 347 bus to get to the ground from Northwood Hills and a long walk to get the bus. Now, with this story in mind, I am banging on again about the SW corner when completed being named after Ken Furphy!!!
If you want backing for the Ken Furphy Corner, write me down! Great memories. Once in your place, you were stuck there---no loo, no half time tea. I was against the barrier, which had some space advantage, but dangerous in a surge---which happened at the goal! I remember a guy fainting (not sure if it was this game) and big problems getting him to the front to recover. Great cupo matches under Furphy---the game at Old Trafford against some of the United legends, the Scullion goal past Stepney----.
[quote][p][bold]andyhooked[/bold] wrote: I was there and what a great day. Even when some Scouser scum bag nicked the scarf off of my neck it was still a great day. Remember queing up for tickets and as a kid it was a long walk to pick up the old 347 bus to get to the ground from Northwood Hills and a long walk to get the bus. Now, with this story in mind, I am banging on again about the SW corner when completed being named after Ken Furphy!!![/p][/quote]If you want backing for the Ken Furphy Corner, write me down! Great memories. Once in your place, you were stuck there---no loo, no half time tea. I was against the barrier, which had some space advantage, but dangerous in a surge---which happened at the goal! I remember a guy fainting (not sure if it was this game) and big problems getting him to the front to recover. Great cupo matches under Furphy---the game at Old Trafford against some of the United legends, the Scullion goal past Stepney----. londomollari
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4:36pm Wed 27 Feb 13

andyhooked says...

Wish I was old enough to have gone and seen Scully's goal at Man U. If the replay had not been postponed who knows but then they had a certain Dennis Law
Wish I was old enough to have gone and seen Scully's goal at Man U. If the replay had not been postponed who knows but then they had a certain Dennis Law andyhooked
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4:51pm Wed 27 Feb 13

londomollari says...

andyhooked wrote:
Wish I was old enough to have gone and seen Scully's goal at Man U. If the replay had not been postponed who knows but then they had a certain Dennis Law
Cracking shot from out side the area--Stepney had no chance.
[quote][p][bold]andyhooked[/bold] wrote: Wish I was old enough to have gone and seen Scully's goal at Man U. If the replay had not been postponed who knows but then they had a certain Dennis Law[/p][/quote]Cracking shot from out side the area--Stepney had no chance. londomollari
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5:52pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Welbourne's Chopper says...

I am in memory lane heaven reading these posts. Lucky to have been at Old Trafford at the far end when Scully skipped round Nobby Stiles and put that screamer past Stepney. 9 times out of 10 it would have ended up in the Manchester Ship Canal, but was that some goal? Got back to Watford at 7.00am and immediately joined the queue for tickets for the replay - good old days when there wasn't a 2 week delay before replays.
Witnessed the flying pig AKA Tommy Lawrence clutching at thin air as Endean's header flew in the top corner in '70. Awesome!
I am in memory lane heaven reading these posts. Lucky to have been at Old Trafford at the far end when Scully skipped round Nobby Stiles and put that screamer past Stepney. 9 times out of 10 it would have ended up in the Manchester Ship Canal, but was that some goal? Got back to Watford at 7.00am and immediately joined the queue for tickets for the replay - good old days when there wasn't a 2 week delay before replays. Witnessed the flying pig AKA Tommy Lawrence clutching at thin air as Endean's header flew in the top corner in '70. Awesome! Welbourne's Chopper
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6:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

londomollari says...

Had forgotten about the queue! I joined it early next morning. It stretched down vicarage road, around the corner---I joined the end of the queue in Liverpool street. Yes, really! And I got a ticket---didn't think I would. Memories are odd. I can remember that Scully goal as if it were yesterday, but the Liverpool goal has faded away into vaugness. Can just remember Endean hanging in the air, heading, rather like a still photo. I do remember Ray Lugg playing the game of his life. He never remotely ever reached that level again.
Had forgotten about the queue! I joined it early next morning. It stretched down vicarage road, around the corner---I joined the end of the queue in Liverpool street. Yes, really! And I got a ticket---didn't think I would. Memories are odd. I can remember that Scully goal as if it were yesterday, but the Liverpool goal has faded away into vaugness. Can just remember Endean hanging in the air, heading, rather like a still photo. I do remember Ray Lugg playing the game of his life. He never remotely ever reached that level again. londomollari
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6:49pm Wed 27 Feb 13

londomollari says...

Remember, too, Franks scoring against the great Gordan Banks---that was a cracking shot, too! Whatever happened to Franks? I always seem to remember him as the ugliest Watford Footballer I had seen---A couple of scars and stitch marks and he could have appeared in a Frankenstein film. Sorry, maybe I'm doing him a disservice.
Remember, too, Franks scoring against the great Gordan Banks---that was a cracking shot, too! Whatever happened to Franks? I always seem to remember him as the ugliest Watford Footballer I had seen---A couple of scars and stitch marks and he could have appeared in a Frankenstein film. Sorry, maybe I'm doing him a disservice. londomollari
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7:06pm Wed 27 Feb 13

londomollari says...

Just taking this chance to ask. Does anyone remember a league match--mid 60's. I think against Bristol C or R. The Bristol goalkeeper was. I think, Briggs. Watford scoired 4 goals. I remember Briggs coming for a cross, completely missing it, and the ball running down his arm, onto his shoulder, and bouncing into the net. As the cheers (and laughter) subsided, a leather-lunged individual shouted, very clearly, 'Briggs, you're useless." At which point the keeper turned to face the crowd, and very slowly, and very sadly nodded his head. Anyone else remember?
Just taking this chance to ask. Does anyone remember a league match--mid 60's. I think against Bristol C or R. The Bristol goalkeeper was. I think, Briggs. Watford scoired 4 goals. I remember Briggs coming for a cross, completely missing it, and the ball running down his arm, onto his shoulder, and bouncing into the net. As the cheers (and laughter) subsided, a leather-lunged individual shouted, very clearly, 'Briggs, you're useless." At which point the keeper turned to face the crowd, and very slowly, and very sadly nodded his head. Anyone else remember? londomollari
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7:16pm Wed 27 Feb 13

The Rover says...

This guy has shown more dedication to Watford FC than any player, manager, owner etc. 37 years working for the club is amazing. Just a shame they decided to make him redundant at the age of 78. A virtual standing ovation from me!. A token of appreciation from the club in some form is in order. If anyone from Watford FC reads this how about giving him and his family an executive box for one of our remaining home games?
This guy has shown more dedication to Watford FC than any player, manager, owner etc. 37 years working for the club is amazing. Just a shame they decided to make him redundant at the age of 78. A virtual standing ovation from me!. A token of appreciation from the club in some form is in order. If anyone from Watford FC reads this how about giving him and his family an executive box for one of our remaining home games? The Rover
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8:17pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Eastsussexhornet says...

londomollari wrote:
Just taking this chance to ask. Does anyone remember a league match--mid 60's. I think against Bristol C or R. The Bristol goalkeeper was. I think, Briggs. Watford scoired 4 goals. I remember Briggs coming for a cross, completely missing it, and the ball running down his arm, onto his shoulder, and bouncing into the net. As the cheers (and laughter) subsided, a leather-lunged individual shouted, very clearly, 'Briggs, you're useless." At which point the keeper turned to face the crowd, and very slowly, and very sadly nodded his head. Anyone else remember?
I started the religion in 1968 so I don't remember that one. But since you have introduced memorable goals, there was one that I remember but haven't seen it referred to ever. It was an evening game in 1968-70 against, I think, Tranmere. I was in the Shrodells stand (only one of half a dozen times I ever paid for a seat!). The goal was at the Vicarage Road end. The ball went about 50ft in the air just short of the goal line, landed on a Watford player's foot and went in. I THINK that player was Terry Garbett but I'm not sure.
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Just taking this chance to ask. Does anyone remember a league match--mid 60's. I think against Bristol C or R. The Bristol goalkeeper was. I think, Briggs. Watford scoired 4 goals. I remember Briggs coming for a cross, completely missing it, and the ball running down his arm, onto his shoulder, and bouncing into the net. As the cheers (and laughter) subsided, a leather-lunged individual shouted, very clearly, 'Briggs, you're useless." At which point the keeper turned to face the crowd, and very slowly, and very sadly nodded his head. Anyone else remember?[/p][/quote]I started the religion in 1968 so I don't remember that one. But since you have introduced memorable goals, there was one that I remember but haven't seen it referred to ever. It was an evening game in 1968-70 against, I think, Tranmere. I was in the Shrodells stand (only one of half a dozen times I ever paid for a seat!). The goal was at the Vicarage Road end. The ball went about 50ft in the air just short of the goal line, landed on a Watford player's foot and went in. I THINK that player was Terry Garbett but I'm not sure. Eastsussexhornet
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9:38pm Wed 27 Feb 13

londomollari says...

Eastsussexhornet wrote:
londomollari wrote:
Just taking this chance to ask. Does anyone remember a league match--mid 60's. I think against Bristol C or R. The Bristol goalkeeper was. I think, Briggs. Watford scoired 4 goals. I remember Briggs coming for a cross, completely missing it, and the ball running down his arm, onto his shoulder, and bouncing into the net. As the cheers (and laughter) subsided, a leather-lunged individual shouted, very clearly, 'Briggs, you're useless." At which point the keeper turned to face the crowd, and very slowly, and very sadly nodded his head. Anyone else remember?
I started the religion in 1968 so I don't remember that one. But since you have introduced memorable goals, there was one that I remember but haven't seen it referred to ever. It was an evening game in 1968-70 against, I think, Tranmere. I was in the Shrodells stand (only one of half a dozen times I ever paid for a seat!). The goal was at the Vicarage Road end. The ball went about 50ft in the air just short of the goal line, landed on a Watford player's foot and went in. I THINK that player was Terry Garbett but I'm not sure.
I never missed a home game in the 60's. The nearest goal to that I remember, was against Tranmere, evening game, lateish sixties. It was the famous Brian Owen "Watford Observer Clock" goal. However, that was at the Rookery end. I don't remember anything similar at the Vicarage road end---but I'm afraid my memory is a bit patchy these days.
[quote][p][bold]Eastsussexhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Just taking this chance to ask. Does anyone remember a league match--mid 60's. I think against Bristol C or R. The Bristol goalkeeper was. I think, Briggs. Watford scoired 4 goals. I remember Briggs coming for a cross, completely missing it, and the ball running down his arm, onto his shoulder, and bouncing into the net. As the cheers (and laughter) subsided, a leather-lunged individual shouted, very clearly, 'Briggs, you're useless." At which point the keeper turned to face the crowd, and very slowly, and very sadly nodded his head. Anyone else remember?[/p][/quote]I started the religion in 1968 so I don't remember that one. But since you have introduced memorable goals, there was one that I remember but haven't seen it referred to ever. It was an evening game in 1968-70 against, I think, Tranmere. I was in the Shrodells stand (only one of half a dozen times I ever paid for a seat!). The goal was at the Vicarage Road end. The ball went about 50ft in the air just short of the goal line, landed on a Watford player's foot and went in. I THINK that player was Terry Garbett but I'm not sure.[/p][/quote]I never missed a home game in the 60's. The nearest goal to that I remember, was against Tranmere, evening game, lateish sixties. It was the famous Brian Owen "Watford Observer Clock" goal. However, that was at the Rookery end. I don't remember anything similar at the Vicarage road end---but I'm afraid my memory is a bit patchy these days. londomollari
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9:50pm Wed 27 Feb 13

CARDIFFHORN says...

londomollari wrote:
Eastsussexhornet wrote:
londomollari wrote:
Just taking this chance to ask. Does anyone remember a league match--mid 60's. I think against Bristol C or R. The Bristol goalkeeper was. I think, Briggs. Watford scoired 4 goals. I remember Briggs coming for a cross, completely missing it, and the ball running down his arm, onto his shoulder, and bouncing into the net. As the cheers (and laughter) subsided, a leather-lunged individual shouted, very clearly, 'Briggs, you're useless." At which point the keeper turned to face the crowd, and very slowly, and very sadly nodded his head. Anyone else remember?
I started the religion in 1968 so I don't remember that one. But since you have introduced memorable goals, there was one that I remember but haven't seen it referred to ever. It was an evening game in 1968-70 against, I think, Tranmere. I was in the Shrodells stand (only one of half a dozen times I ever paid for a seat!). The goal was at the Vicarage Road end. The ball went about 50ft in the air just short of the goal line, landed on a Watford player's foot and went in. I THINK that player was Terry Garbett but I'm not sure.
I never missed a home game in the 60's. The nearest goal to that I remember, was against Tranmere, evening game, lateish sixties. It was the famous Brian Owen "Watford Observer Clock" goal. However, that was at the Rookery end. I don't remember anything similar at the Vicarage road end---but I'm afraid my memory is a bit patchy these days.
I thought the Brian Owen goal (with snow on it ) was at the Vic Rd end, it was a foggy night as well I seem to recall
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eastsussexhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Just taking this chance to ask. Does anyone remember a league match--mid 60's. I think against Bristol C or R. The Bristol goalkeeper was. I think, Briggs. Watford scoired 4 goals. I remember Briggs coming for a cross, completely missing it, and the ball running down his arm, onto his shoulder, and bouncing into the net. As the cheers (and laughter) subsided, a leather-lunged individual shouted, very clearly, 'Briggs, you're useless." At which point the keeper turned to face the crowd, and very slowly, and very sadly nodded his head. Anyone else remember?[/p][/quote]I started the religion in 1968 so I don't remember that one. But since you have introduced memorable goals, there was one that I remember but haven't seen it referred to ever. It was an evening game in 1968-70 against, I think, Tranmere. I was in the Shrodells stand (only one of half a dozen times I ever paid for a seat!). The goal was at the Vicarage Road end. The ball went about 50ft in the air just short of the goal line, landed on a Watford player's foot and went in. I THINK that player was Terry Garbett but I'm not sure.[/p][/quote]I never missed a home game in the 60's. The nearest goal to that I remember, was against Tranmere, evening game, lateish sixties. It was the famous Brian Owen "Watford Observer Clock" goal. However, that was at the Rookery end. I don't remember anything similar at the Vicarage road end---but I'm afraid my memory is a bit patchy these days.[/p][/quote]I thought the Brian Owen goal (with snow on it ) was at the Vic Rd end, it was a foggy night as well I seem to recall CARDIFFHORN
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11:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

londomollari says...

It was a misty night. But, patchy memory notwithstanding, it was without a doubt the rookery end. The ball looked as if it were going to hit the W.O. Clock, then it caught the (strong) wind as it rose over the stand, then plummeted straight down. The keeper had walked around his left hand post to collect the ball, and the ballboy was also running to collect it. When the keeper realised what was happening, he tried to scramble back, the ball glanced the bar on the way down, deflected off the desperate keeper, and bounced in. Otrhers havent mentioned it, but from where I was it looked as if Owens shot hit a defenders foot, and that's why it flew upwards at such a rate.
It was a misty night. But, patchy memory notwithstanding, it was without a doubt the rookery end. The ball looked as if it were going to hit the W.O. Clock, then it caught the (strong) wind as it rose over the stand, then plummeted straight down. The keeper had walked around his left hand post to collect the ball, and the ballboy was also running to collect it. When the keeper realised what was happening, he tried to scramble back, the ball glanced the bar on the way down, deflected off the desperate keeper, and bounced in. Otrhers havent mentioned it, but from where I was it looked as if Owens shot hit a defenders foot, and that's why it flew upwards at such a rate. londomollari
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11:29pm Wed 27 Feb 13

londomollari says...

Anyone remember the night of 'The Fog'? When a mystery white cloud appeared from the hospital site (South West corner), floated down the terrace onto the pitch, where it settled no higher than waist height? The players could be seen waist height upwards, but the stuff was so thick the players couldn't see the grass or the ball. The ref stopped the match, and the stuff faded away after five minutes or so.
Anyone remember the night of 'The Fog'? When a mystery white cloud appeared from the hospital site (South West corner), floated down the terrace onto the pitch, where it settled no higher than waist height? The players could be seen waist height upwards, but the stuff was so thick the players couldn't see the grass or the ball. The ref stopped the match, and the stuff faded away after five minutes or so. londomollari
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9:19am Thu 28 Feb 13

Eastsussexhornet says...

londomollari wrote:
Eastsussexhornet wrote:
londomollari wrote:
Just taking this chance to ask. Does anyone remember a league match--mid 60's. I think against Bristol C or R. The Bristol goalkeeper was. I think, Briggs. Watford scoired 4 goals. I remember Briggs coming for a cross, completely missing it, and the ball running down his arm, onto his shoulder, and bouncing into the net. As the cheers (and laughter) subsided, a leather-lunged individual shouted, very clearly, 'Briggs, you're useless." At which point the keeper turned to face the crowd, and very slowly, and very sadly nodded his head. Anyone else remember?
I started the religion in 1968 so I don't remember that one. But since you have introduced memorable goals, there was one that I remember but haven't seen it referred to ever. It was an evening game in 1968-70 against, I think, Tranmere. I was in the Shrodells stand (only one of half a dozen times I ever paid for a seat!). The goal was at the Vicarage Road end. The ball went about 50ft in the air just short of the goal line, landed on a Watford player's foot and went in. I THINK that player was Terry Garbett but I'm not sure.
I never missed a home game in the 60's. The nearest goal to that I remember, was against Tranmere, evening game, lateish sixties. It was the famous Brian Owen "Watford Observer Clock" goal. However, that was at the Rookery end. I don't remember anything similar at the Vicarage road end---but I'm afraid my memory is a bit patchy these days.
But I think if YOU think it was Tranmere as well, then there must be something in this. Four shillings that seat cost!!
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eastsussexhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Just taking this chance to ask. Does anyone remember a league match--mid 60's. I think against Bristol C or R. The Bristol goalkeeper was. I think, Briggs. Watford scoired 4 goals. I remember Briggs coming for a cross, completely missing it, and the ball running down his arm, onto his shoulder, and bouncing into the net. As the cheers (and laughter) subsided, a leather-lunged individual shouted, very clearly, 'Briggs, you're useless." At which point the keeper turned to face the crowd, and very slowly, and very sadly nodded his head. Anyone else remember?[/p][/quote]I started the religion in 1968 so I don't remember that one. But since you have introduced memorable goals, there was one that I remember but haven't seen it referred to ever. It was an evening game in 1968-70 against, I think, Tranmere. I was in the Shrodells stand (only one of half a dozen times I ever paid for a seat!). The goal was at the Vicarage Road end. The ball went about 50ft in the air just short of the goal line, landed on a Watford player's foot and went in. I THINK that player was Terry Garbett but I'm not sure.[/p][/quote]I never missed a home game in the 60's. The nearest goal to that I remember, was against Tranmere, evening game, lateish sixties. It was the famous Brian Owen "Watford Observer Clock" goal. However, that was at the Rookery end. I don't remember anything similar at the Vicarage road end---but I'm afraid my memory is a bit patchy these days.[/p][/quote]But I think if YOU think it was Tranmere as well, then there must be something in this. Four shillings that seat cost!! Eastsussexhornet
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9:40am Thu 28 Feb 13

No Wheels says...

londomollari wrote:
It was a misty night. But, patchy memory notwithstanding, it was without a doubt the rookery end. The ball looked as if it were going to hit the W.O. Clock, then it caught the (strong) wind as it rose over the stand, then plummeted straight down. The keeper had walked around his left hand post to collect the ball, and the ballboy was also running to collect it. When the keeper realised what was happening, he tried to scramble back, the ball glanced the bar on the way down, deflected off the desperate keeper, and bounced in. Otrhers havent mentioned it, but from where I was it looked as if Owens shot hit a defenders foot, and that's why it flew upwards at such a rate.
Thanks for this Londonmollari, and to all the others who contribute on these games from the sixties and beyond. It's great that so many of you contribute on here. This was way ahead of my time, but I have heard my dad talk about this goal. He was a rugby and cricket man, and was never actually much of a fan of football at all. Apart from a handful of games when he took me along in the seventies, he hardly went to any Watford games. Anyway, for some reason he was at this game, and I can still remember him talking about this goal. The way he told it, you could see when the ball was still way up in the air that a freak goal was on the cards. One detail though - I thought he had described it as a goal that sealed promotion, or saved us from relegation or something dramatic like that... Was that the case, or did he (or maybe I) embellish it to make the story more dramatic...
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: It was a misty night. But, patchy memory notwithstanding, it was without a doubt the rookery end. The ball looked as if it were going to hit the W.O. Clock, then it caught the (strong) wind as it rose over the stand, then plummeted straight down. The keeper had walked around his left hand post to collect the ball, and the ballboy was also running to collect it. When the keeper realised what was happening, he tried to scramble back, the ball glanced the bar on the way down, deflected off the desperate keeper, and bounced in. Otrhers havent mentioned it, but from where I was it looked as if Owens shot hit a defenders foot, and that's why it flew upwards at such a rate.[/p][/quote]Thanks for this Londonmollari, and to all the others who contribute on these games from the sixties and beyond. It's great that so many of you contribute on here. This was way ahead of my time, but I have heard my dad talk about this goal. He was a rugby and cricket man, and was never actually much of a fan of football at all. Apart from a handful of games when he took me along in the seventies, he hardly went to any Watford games. Anyway, for some reason he was at this game, and I can still remember him talking about this goal. The way he told it, you could see when the ball was still way up in the air that a freak goal was on the cards. One detail though - I thought he had described it as a goal that sealed promotion, or saved us from relegation or something dramatic like that... Was that the case, or did he (or maybe I) embellish it to make the story more dramatic... No Wheels
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10:21am Thu 28 Feb 13

Harry's Bar says...

londomollari wrote:
Remember, too, Franks scoring against the great Gordan Banks---that was a cracking shot, too! Whatever happened to Franks? I always seem to remember him as the ugliest Watford Footballer I had seen---A couple of scars and stitch marks and he could have appeared in a Frankenstein film. Sorry, maybe I'm doing him a disservice.
Watching Troy Deeney being interviewed after the Brighton game I had to hide behind the sofa.
Do you remember Sam Ellis...?
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Remember, too, Franks scoring against the great Gordan Banks---that was a cracking shot, too! Whatever happened to Franks? I always seem to remember him as the ugliest Watford Footballer I had seen---A couple of scars and stitch marks and he could have appeared in a Frankenstein film. Sorry, maybe I'm doing him a disservice.[/p][/quote]Watching Troy Deeney being interviewed after the Brighton game I had to hide behind the sofa. Do you remember Sam Ellis...? Harry's Bar
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10:48am Thu 28 Feb 13

tommy gunn says...

Whilst on the topic of nostalgia who remembers Charlie Billington,a centre half we picked up from somewhere.Poor Charlie wasn't blessed with great football skill infact some said that they needed to open the gates at the allotments for him to turn round in.I well remember a game under floodlights when a wag in the crowd shouted ' turn the lights out Charlie can play better in the dark' Don't recall the game only the comment.We don't seem to get the amusing remarks these days but its good to see a bit more atmosphere in some parts of the ground.Perhaps Steve would remember Charlie.?
Whilst on the topic of nostalgia who remembers Charlie Billington,a centre half we picked up from somewhere.Poor Charlie wasn't blessed with great football skill infact some said that they needed to open the gates at the allotments for him to turn round in.I well remember a game under floodlights when a wag in the crowd shouted ' turn the lights out Charlie can play better in the dark' Don't recall the game only the comment.We don't seem to get the amusing remarks these days but its good to see a bit more atmosphere in some parts of the ground.Perhaps Steve would remember Charlie.? tommy gunn
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10:54am Thu 28 Feb 13

londomollari says...

No Wheels wrote:
londomollari wrote:
It was a misty night. But, patchy memory notwithstanding, it was without a doubt the rookery end. The ball looked as if it were going to hit the W.O. Clock, then it caught the (strong) wind as it rose over the stand, then plummeted straight down. The keeper had walked around his left hand post to collect the ball, and the ballboy was also running to collect it. When the keeper realised what was happening, he tried to scramble back, the ball glanced the bar on the way down, deflected off the desperate keeper, and bounced in. Otrhers havent mentioned it, but from where I was it looked as if Owens shot hit a defenders foot, and that's why it flew upwards at such a rate.
Thanks for this Londonmollari, and to all the others who contribute on these games from the sixties and beyond. It's great that so many of you contribute on here. This was way ahead of my time, but I have heard my dad talk about this goal. He was a rugby and cricket man, and was never actually much of a fan of football at all. Apart from a handful of games when he took me along in the seventies, he hardly went to any Watford games. Anyway, for some reason he was at this game, and I can still remember him talking about this goal. The way he told it, you could see when the ball was still way up in the air that a freak goal was on the cards. One detail though - I thought he had described it as a goal that sealed promotion, or saved us from relegation or something dramatic like that... Was that the case, or did he (or maybe I) embellish it to make the story more dramatic...
A little bit embellished. It was in Watfords championship season, but there was a few games before the Plymouth game that sealed promotion. Thye game finished 3-1 to Watford---but I seem to remember that Watford were struggling a little before the goal.
[quote][p][bold]No Wheels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: It was a misty night. But, patchy memory notwithstanding, it was without a doubt the rookery end. The ball looked as if it were going to hit the W.O. Clock, then it caught the (strong) wind as it rose over the stand, then plummeted straight down. The keeper had walked around his left hand post to collect the ball, and the ballboy was also running to collect it. When the keeper realised what was happening, he tried to scramble back, the ball glanced the bar on the way down, deflected off the desperate keeper, and bounced in. Otrhers havent mentioned it, but from where I was it looked as if Owens shot hit a defenders foot, and that's why it flew upwards at such a rate.[/p][/quote]Thanks for this Londonmollari, and to all the others who contribute on these games from the sixties and beyond. It's great that so many of you contribute on here. This was way ahead of my time, but I have heard my dad talk about this goal. He was a rugby and cricket man, and was never actually much of a fan of football at all. Apart from a handful of games when he took me along in the seventies, he hardly went to any Watford games. Anyway, for some reason he was at this game, and I can still remember him talking about this goal. The way he told it, you could see when the ball was still way up in the air that a freak goal was on the cards. One detail though - I thought he had described it as a goal that sealed promotion, or saved us from relegation or something dramatic like that... Was that the case, or did he (or maybe I) embellish it to make the story more dramatic...[/p][/quote]A little bit embellished. It was in Watfords championship season, but there was a few games before the Plymouth game that sealed promotion. Thye game finished 3-1 to Watford---but I seem to remember that Watford were struggling a little before the goal. londomollari
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11:04am Thu 28 Feb 13

londomollari says...

tommy gunn wrote:
Whilst on the topic of nostalgia who remembers Charlie Billington,a centre half we picked up from somewhere.Poor Charlie wasn't blessed with great football skill infact some said that they needed to open the gates at the allotments for him to turn round in.I well remember a game under floodlights when a wag in the crowd shouted ' turn the lights out Charlie can play better in the dark' Don't recall the game only the comment.We don't seem to get the amusing remarks these days but its good to see a bit more atmosphere in some parts of the ground.Perhaps Steve would remember Charlie.?
Before my time, but couldn't resist looking him up. 1957. Played about 17 games, was made captain on his debut and got sent off.
Agree about the humorous remarks.
In the 68/69 Championship season, the last few league games produced crowds of over 20,000. Could do with that response this season.
[quote][p][bold]tommy gunn[/bold] wrote: Whilst on the topic of nostalgia who remembers Charlie Billington,a centre half we picked up from somewhere.Poor Charlie wasn't blessed with great football skill infact some said that they needed to open the gates at the allotments for him to turn round in.I well remember a game under floodlights when a wag in the crowd shouted ' turn the lights out Charlie can play better in the dark' Don't recall the game only the comment.We don't seem to get the amusing remarks these days but its good to see a bit more atmosphere in some parts of the ground.Perhaps Steve would remember Charlie.?[/p][/quote]Before my time, but couldn't resist looking him up. 1957. Played about 17 games, was made captain on his debut and got sent off. Agree about the humorous remarks. In the 68/69 Championship season, the last few league games produced crowds of over 20,000. Could do with that response this season. londomollari
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11:19am Thu 28 Feb 13

londomollari says...

Harry's Bar wrote:
londomollari wrote:
Remember, too, Franks scoring against the great Gordan Banks---that was a cracking shot, too! Whatever happened to Franks? I always seem to remember him as the ugliest Watford Footballer I had seen---A couple of scars and stitch marks and he could have appeared in a Frankenstein film. Sorry, maybe I'm doing him a disservice.
Watching Troy Deeney being interviewed after the Brighton game I had to hide behind the sofa.
Do you remember Sam Ellis...?
Sam. God, yes, he was no picture to show the kiddies. Good footballer, tho'. I think at Watford we only saw him towards the tail end of his career.
[quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Remember, too, Franks scoring against the great Gordan Banks---that was a cracking shot, too! Whatever happened to Franks? I always seem to remember him as the ugliest Watford Footballer I had seen---A couple of scars and stitch marks and he could have appeared in a Frankenstein film. Sorry, maybe I'm doing him a disservice.[/p][/quote]Watching Troy Deeney being interviewed after the Brighton game I had to hide behind the sofa. Do you remember Sam Ellis...?[/p][/quote]Sam. God, yes, he was no picture to show the kiddies. Good footballer, tho'. I think at Watford we only saw him towards the tail end of his career. londomollari
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11:29am Thu 28 Feb 13

londomollari says...

Indulging in wonderful memories before work. Looked up colin Franks and Sam Ellis in the Watford Illustrated Who's Who. You'd run screaming seeing them on your doorstep at Halloween. Apparently Colin Franks settled in Canada.
The greatest memories of the 69 Championship season was the completly unforgettable match at Swindon. Eddy, the penalty king, missing that penalty, the Endean goal, the team playing out of their skins, being trapped before the match in a cafe by a baying mob of knuckle dragging turnip crushers, the Watford fans chanting 'Country, Country Bumpkins". What a game, what a day!
Indulging in wonderful memories before work. Looked up colin Franks and Sam Ellis in the Watford Illustrated Who's Who. You'd run screaming seeing them on your doorstep at Halloween. Apparently Colin Franks settled in Canada. The greatest memories of the 69 Championship season was the completly unforgettable match at Swindon. Eddy, the penalty king, missing that penalty, the Endean goal, the team playing out of their skins, being trapped before the match in a cafe by a baying mob of knuckle dragging turnip crushers, the Watford fans chanting 'Country, Country Bumpkins". What a game, what a day! londomollari
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11:36am Thu 28 Feb 13

londomollari says...

One last memory before work. Away match at Bournmouth, same season---I think it was the match immediately before the Plymouth game that confirmed promotion. Watford won 3-1, including the most spectacular own goal I have ever seen. I think the Bournmouth defender lobbed his keeper from about 35 or 40 yards out.
One last memory before work. Away match at Bournmouth, same season---I think it was the match immediately before the Plymouth game that confirmed promotion. Watford won 3-1, including the most spectacular own goal I have ever seen. I think the Bournmouth defender lobbed his keeper from about 35 or 40 yards out. londomollari
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1:29pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Harry's Bar says...

londomollari wrote:
tommy gunn wrote: Whilst on the topic of nostalgia who remembers Charlie Billington,a centre half we picked up from somewhere.Poor Charlie wasn't blessed with great football skill infact some said that they needed to open the gates at the allotments for him to turn round in.I well remember a game under floodlights when a wag in the crowd shouted ' turn the lights out Charlie can play better in the dark' Don't recall the game only the comment.We don't seem to get the amusing remarks these days but its good to see a bit more atmosphere in some parts of the ground.Perhaps Steve would remember Charlie.?
Before my time, but couldn't resist looking him up. 1957. Played about 17 games, was made captain on his debut and got sent off. Agree about the humorous remarks. In the 68/69 Championship season, the last few league games produced crowds of over 20,000. Could do with that response this season.
I wonder of those 20,000 how many paid cash on the day and how many purchased tickets beforehand.
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tommy gunn[/bold] wrote: Whilst on the topic of nostalgia who remembers Charlie Billington,a centre half we picked up from somewhere.Poor Charlie wasn't blessed with great football skill infact some said that they needed to open the gates at the allotments for him to turn round in.I well remember a game under floodlights when a wag in the crowd shouted ' turn the lights out Charlie can play better in the dark' Don't recall the game only the comment.We don't seem to get the amusing remarks these days but its good to see a bit more atmosphere in some parts of the ground.Perhaps Steve would remember Charlie.?[/p][/quote]Before my time, but couldn't resist looking him up. 1957. Played about 17 games, was made captain on his debut and got sent off. Agree about the humorous remarks. In the 68/69 Championship season, the last few league games produced crowds of over 20,000. Could do with that response this season.[/p][/quote]I wonder of those 20,000 how many paid cash on the day and how many purchased tickets beforehand. Harry's Bar
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2:30pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Eastsussexhornet says...

I used to get in free. I sold jackpot tickets. I earned 1 penny per ticket (that's 1"d", about 0.41p). I sold over a 100 each match so I was loaded at the end of that - about 50p richer! AND free entrance. Always missed the first 5-6 mins though while I collected my money at the ticket office and walked back round the ground and through the turnstiles. I'm surprised I didn't get mugged!
I used to get in free. I sold jackpot tickets. I earned 1 penny per ticket (that's 1"d", about 0.41p). I sold over a 100 each match so I was loaded at the end of that - about 50p richer! AND free entrance. Always missed the first 5-6 mins though while I collected my money at the ticket office and walked back round the ground and through the turnstiles. I'm surprised I didn't get mugged! Eastsussexhornet
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6:33pm Thu 28 Feb 13

MJ1 says...

Eastsussexhornet wrote:
craig239 wrote:
Steve
Ray Luggs cross What a goal!
Watford is in our blood!
And I couldn't get a ticket! My dad took me to see Spurs v Stoke that day instead. I then saw the highlights on MOTD....memories.
Yes great cross from Ray Lugg past 'fatty' Lawrence in goal. Actually you could get tickets on the day. WFC had doubled the ticket price to cash in on the big tie and many people including myself were going to boycott it. But on the day, we just had to go. There was a small matchday ticket office - a hole in the wall in Occupation Road so paid up and we got in and stood behind the goal at the Rookery End - to see Barry Endean's great and unforgettable goal.
[quote][p][bold]Eastsussexhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]craig239[/bold] wrote: Steve Ray Luggs cross What a goal! Watford is in our blood![/p][/quote]And I couldn't get a ticket! My dad took me to see Spurs v Stoke that day instead. I then saw the highlights on MOTD....memories.[/p][/quote]Yes great cross from Ray Lugg past 'fatty' Lawrence in goal. Actually you could get tickets on the day. WFC had doubled the ticket price to cash in on the big tie and many people including myself were going to boycott it. But on the day, we just had to go. There was a small matchday ticket office - a hole in the wall in Occupation Road so paid up and we got in and stood behind the goal at the Rookery End - to see Barry Endean's great and unforgettable goal. MJ1
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6:36pm Thu 28 Feb 13

MJ1 says...

londomollari wrote:
Anyone remember the night of 'The Fog'? When a mystery white cloud appeared from the hospital site (South West corner), floated down the terrace onto the pitch, where it settled no higher than waist height? The players could be seen waist height upwards, but the stuff was so thick the players couldn't see the grass or the ball. The ref stopped the match, and the stuff faded away after five minutes or so.
Yep. That was from the hospital laundry which abutted the then Shrodells Stand. We were playing a Polish Side called Gornik I recall.
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Anyone remember the night of 'The Fog'? When a mystery white cloud appeared from the hospital site (South West corner), floated down the terrace onto the pitch, where it settled no higher than waist height? The players could be seen waist height upwards, but the stuff was so thick the players couldn't see the grass or the ball. The ref stopped the match, and the stuff faded away after five minutes or so.[/p][/quote]Yep. That was from the hospital laundry which abutted the then Shrodells Stand. We were playing a Polish Side called Gornik I recall. MJ1
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10:50pm Thu 28 Feb 13

londomollari says...

MJ1 wrote:
londomollari wrote:
Anyone remember the night of 'The Fog'? When a mystery white cloud appeared from the hospital site (South West corner), floated down the terrace onto the pitch, where it settled no higher than waist height? The players could be seen waist height upwards, but the stuff was so thick the players couldn't see the grass or the ball. The ref stopped the match, and the stuff faded away after five minutes or so.
Yep. That was from the hospital laundry which abutted the then Shrodells Stand. We were playing a Polish Side called Gornik I recall.
It was like a scene from a bad sci-fi film. I half expected hands to stretch out of the cloud and drag the players down, never to be seen again.
[quote][p][bold]MJ1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Anyone remember the night of 'The Fog'? When a mystery white cloud appeared from the hospital site (South West corner), floated down the terrace onto the pitch, where it settled no higher than waist height? The players could be seen waist height upwards, but the stuff was so thick the players couldn't see the grass or the ball. The ref stopped the match, and the stuff faded away after five minutes or so.[/p][/quote]Yep. That was from the hospital laundry which abutted the then Shrodells Stand. We were playing a Polish Side called Gornik I recall.[/p][/quote]It was like a scene from a bad sci-fi film. I half expected hands to stretch out of the cloud and drag the players down, never to be seen again. londomollari
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3:34pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Linda Geddes says...

I remember the Endean goal against Liverpool and also seeing Liverpool supporters sitting in the gutter outside the ground crying their eyes out - bless 'em!

I also queued round the block for the Man Utd replay, watched the match and then whizzed home to watch the highlights on MOTD.

Best night ever though was taking my children to watch the Hornets beat Kaiserslauten - freezing cold, but oh what a night!
I remember the Endean goal against Liverpool and also seeing Liverpool supporters sitting in the gutter outside the ground crying their eyes out - bless 'em! I also queued round the block for the Man Utd replay, watched the match and then whizzed home to watch the highlights on MOTD. Best night ever though was taking my children to watch the Hornets beat Kaiserslauten - freezing cold, but oh what a night! Linda Geddes
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