Nosworthy 'out for season' (From Watford Observer)

Is this just typical of our luck.

Is Hall fit? If so lets hope he can last the final 8 games. For me, you need Hall or Nosworthy as 'centre centre' back, then 2 from Doyley, Ekstrand, Briggs and Hoban. Cassetti can cover if needed too so as long as Hall is fit we won't miss Nosworthy too much.

At the risk of Holoway blowing a fuse with Hoban and Hall still out with injury a dip into the loan market required.... running out of options

A devastating blow.....if it was last season. He'll be missed, but we do have cover there. I think we've had plenty of luck, certainly in the last week and generally all season with the new owners saving the club. A setback.

Guy Bov wrote:
At the risk of Holoway blowing a fuse with Hoban and Hall still out with injury a dip into the loan market required.... running out of options

Just checked and seen Hall was on bench vs Barnsley so unless he's got injured in training since then, he should be good for Burnley and can hopefully last the 8 games! Fingers crossed, touchwood etc etc

Stoney77 wrote:
Is Hall fit? If so lets hope he can last the final 8 games. For me, you need Hall or Nosworthy as 'centre centre' back, then 2 from Doyley, Ekstrand, Briggs and Hoban. Cassetti can cover if needed too so as long as Hall is fit we won't miss Nosworthy too much.

Apparently Hall is fit. Agree with your assessment---althoug
h Hoban is still out. Fortunate that Briggs was called in to cover. Just hope Hall holds out for eight games.
Just as an aside, I noticed in the Wobby sports headlines 'Pope wins shot putt'. Good on him,that he can find time from his new duties to take part in sport---especially him being over 70.

Nosworthy will be a big miss on the run in Hall good player that he is will not play 8 games in a row, agree with a loan if only to upset Holloway.

that's all we need.

dont need cover, more than enough at the back for 8 games. If we need to venture into loan market it needs to be for a central midfielder to support the holy trinity of Chab, Bat and AA.

you horns

Really am gutted to hear this news :( Nossy has been a ROCK lately and will be missed!! Just hope Matey and Lloydinio come back unscathed. COYH

Should be fine with Hall, Doyley, Ekstrand, Briggs, Thompson, Cassetti, Chalobah all more than capable of playing there. And Hoban to come back. Especially when only playing 3 at the back

1234566789 wrote:
Should be fine with Hall, Doyley, Ekstrand, Briggs, Thompson, Cassetti, Chalobah all more than capable of playing there. And Hoban to come back. Especially when only playing 3 at the back

The problem as I see it is that only 'one size' is a 'proper'centre half - the others can play either side in a three but fear we will be vulnerable aerially if FH can not play (see tape v Charlton). Have not checked but has he played 8 consecutive at any time this season ?

Cardiff lost Hudson for some weeks and Fatty went out straight away and loaned in Barnet from Norwich. Would like us to do the same.

buckinghamhornet wrote:
Really am gutted to hear this news :( Nossy has been a ROCK lately and will be missed!! Just hope Matey and Lloydinio come back unscathed. COYH

Don't fret. When Hall get's injured, fret then.

NN didn't play against Leeds or Sheff Wed and we won those two games 10-2 on aggregate. Remember, there were a couple of matches this year when he didn't play well at all and faced a fair bit of critisism on here.

We have enought resource to see us through and I am sure they are not just sitting there hoping it'll all be alright. I bet a few phone calls have been made over the last 2 days.

Where's Neuton?????????

Oracledave wrote:

1234566789 wrote:
Should be fine with Hall, Doyley, Ekstrand, Briggs, Thompson, Cassetti, Chalobah all more than capable of playing there. And Hoban to come back. Especially when only playing 3 at the back

The problem as I see it is that only 'one size' is a 'proper'centre half - the others can play either side in a three but fear we will be vulnerable aerially if FH can not play (see tape v Charlton). Have not checked but has he played 8 consecutive at any time this season ?

Cardiff lost Hudson for some weeks and Fatty went out straight away and loaned in Barnet from Norwich. Would like us to do the same.

Agreed. Though I think Hoban (isnt far away from fitness I gather?) can probably do that job well enough. Would hope all 3 aren't out at one, that would be severe bad luck

Rather have Cassetti than Neuton at the back

Hall will never last 8 games on the trot. Look at his record. Hoban will need time to get back to full fitness after such a long break. Certainly need extra cover or we will be very vulnerable indeed.

Just checked Hall's appearance record - he has only played in 19 of our 38 league games. Think he's a good player but would certainly look for a more durable CB for next season, Champ or Prem

Eastsussexhornet wrote:

buckinghamhornet wrote:
Really am gutted to hear this news :( Nossy has been a ROCK lately and will be missed!! Just hope Matey and Lloydinio come back unscathed. COYH

Don't fret. When Hall get's injured, fret then.

NN didn't play against Leeds or Sheff Wed and we won those two games 10-2 on aggregate. Remember, there were a couple of matches this year when he didn't play well at all and faced a fair bit of critisism on here.

We have enought resource to see us through and I am sure they are not just sitting there hoping it'll all be alright. I bet a few phone calls have been made over the last 2 days.

Totally agree...see pigs do fly!

SAHornet wrote:
Just checked Hall's appearance record - he has only played in 19 of our 38 league games. Think he's a good player but would certainly look for a more durable CB for next season, Champ or Prem

Agree matey but, our best line up has included Hall and Hoban, IMO Nosey gives his all but at times plays us into trouble when his aim to clear ends up in a dangerous up and under.
I still think we have as much cover as any other team, but at the same time would not say no to anything better being added! Hollowhead will love it!

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
Just checked Hall's appearance record - he has only played in 19 of our 38 league games. Think he's a good player but would certainly look for a more durable CB for next season, Champ or Prem

Agree matey but, our best line up has included Hall and Hoban, IMO Nosey gives his all but at times plays us into trouble when his aim to clear ends up in a dangerous up and under.
I still think we have as much cover as any other team, but at the same time would not say no to anything better being added! Hollowhead will love it!

Spot on!

I agree with blackpool horn. We have more than enough defebsive cover. But as we all now aware after the last 2 defeats centre mid is no where near goif enough if anything happens to abdi and chal.
I posted a while back about hogg and if there was a bid in jan we should take it. I got aggressively knocked down. I now feel vindicated as more fans have come to this conclusion. If we stay in this division next year we now know yeates and arent good enough, if promoted fans need to be honest about which players are good enough. Loyalty to average players only means a year of struggle. We will hav to be ruthless and the last 2 games has proved it.
Im sure Mr Nani will hav some players up his sleeve, but if u remember some of his expensive recruits at west ham were poor buys and never fullfilled there promise. The pozzos have been excellant so far, but eventually we will recruit our own players. They myt be the scariest times. I only hope Mr Nani has learnt a few lessons. Midfield players should be his priority.
P.s if connor smith/eustace not injured surely they would be above hogg in pecking order.

Chariots wrote:
I agree with blackpool horn. We have more than enough defebsive cover. But as we all now aware after the last 2 defeats centre mid is no where near goif enough if anything happens to abdi and chal.
I posted a while back about hogg and if there was a bid in jan we should take it. I got aggressively knocked down. I now feel vindicated as more fans have come to this conclusion. If we stay in this division next year we now know yeates and arent good enough, if promoted fans need to be honest about which players are good enough. Loyalty to average players only means a year of struggle. We will hav to be ruthless and the last 2 games has proved it.
Im sure Mr Nani will hav some players up his sleeve, but if u remember some of his expensive recruits at west ham were poor buys and never fullfilled there promise. The pozzos have been excellant so far, but eventually we will recruit our own players. They myt be the scariest times. I only hope Mr Nani has learnt a few lessons. Midfield players should be his priority.
P.s if connor smith/eustace not injured surely they would be above hogg in pecking order.

I have defended Yeates and Hogg enough times but I do agree with you that next season it could be good to replace them. But only if we keep the likes of Abdi and Battocchio. If we lose them and Chalobah, we can't get 5/6 more, better players. I think they are more than adequate back up, but not first choice any more. If they are happy to stay and work hard, no need to get rid. Eustace point, however, is so far off the mark. Hogg clearly showed last season he is better than Eustace- don't think anyone disagreed at this point last season (short term memories and a few poor performances from him this season combined with not regularly watching Eustace clip balls back to the opposition have led to the calls for him). He would have been good the last couple of games for a mature head in the middle if the park but his ability is not there for this team. His legs also were clearly starting to go last season so how could he do better 2 years later?

1234566789 wrote:

Chariots wrote:
I agree with blackpool horn. We have more than enough defebsive cover. But as we all now aware after the last 2 defeats centre mid is no where near goif enough if anything happens to abdi and chal.
I posted a while back about hogg and if there was a bid in jan we should take it. I got aggressively knocked down. I now feel vindicated as more fans have come to this conclusion. If we stay in this division next year we now know yeates and arent good enough, if promoted fans need to be honest about which players are good enough. Loyalty to average players only means a year of struggle. We will hav to be ruthless and the last 2 games has proved it.
Im sure Mr Nani will hav some players up his sleeve, but if u remember some of his expensive recruits at west ham were poor buys and never fullfilled there promise. The pozzos have been excellant so far, but eventually we will recruit our own players. They myt be the scariest times. I only hope Mr Nani has learnt a few lessons. Midfield players should be his priority.
P.s if connor smith/eustace not injured surely they would be above hogg in pecking order.

I have defended Yeates and Hogg enough times but I do agree with you that next season it could be good to replace them. But only if we keep the likes of Abdi and Battocchio. If we lose them and Chalobah, we can't get 5/6 more, better players. I think they are more than adequate back up, but not first choice any more. If they are happy to stay and work hard, no need to get rid. Eustace point, however, is so far off the mark. Hogg clearly showed last season he is better than Eustace- don't think anyone disagreed at this point last season (short term memories and a few poor performances from him this season combined with not regularly watching Eustace clip balls back to the opposition have led to the calls for him). He would have been good the last couple of games for a mature head in the middle if the park but his ability is not there for this team. His legs also were clearly starting to go last season so how could he do better 2 years later?

I think you will see a clear out,come what may at the end of season, and sadly for some it will be the old guard.
No abuse please, just wait and see..

lutondown wrote:

1234566789 wrote:

Chariots wrote:
I agree with blackpool horn. We have more than enough defebsive cover. But as we all now aware after the last 2 defeats centre mid is no where near goif enough if anything happens to abdi and chal.
I posted a while back about hogg and if there was a bid in jan we should take it. I got aggressively knocked down. I now feel vindicated as more fans have come to this conclusion. If we stay in this division next year we now know yeates and arent good enough, if promoted fans need to be honest about which players are good enough. Loyalty to average players only means a year of struggle. We will hav to be ruthless and the last 2 games has proved it.
Im sure Mr Nani will hav some players up his sleeve, but if u remember some of his expensive recruits at west ham were poor buys and never fullfilled there promise. The pozzos have been excellant so far, but eventually we will recruit our own players. They myt be the scariest times. I only hope Mr Nani has learnt a few lessons. Midfield players should be his priority.
P.s if connor smith/eustace not injured surely they would be above hogg in pecking order.

I have defended Yeates and Hogg enough times but I do agree with you that next season it could be good to replace them. But only if we keep the likes of Abdi and Battocchio. If we lose them and Chalobah, we can't get 5/6 more, better players. I think they are more than adequate back up, but not first choice any more. If they are happy to stay and work hard, no need to get rid. Eustace point, however, is so far off the mark. Hogg clearly showed last season he is better than Eustace- don't think anyone disagreed at this point last season (short term memories and a few poor performances from him this season combined with not regularly watching Eustace clip balls back to the opposition have led to the calls for him). He would have been good the last couple of games for a mature head in the middle if the park but his ability is not there for this team. His legs also were clearly starting to go last season so how could he do better 2 years later?

I think you will see a clear out,come what may at the end of season, and sadly for some it will be the old guard.
No abuse please, just wait and see..

I think you are most probably right. None of us know what will happen with the current loanees. If they stay then I would welcome a clear out and a few new additions. If they don't (and we don't get promoted- would expect them to stay if we do), then it would a dangerous to do so

Is it me or have we suffered a lot of these types of injury (particuarly hamstrings and achilles) this season? Nosworthy, Hall, Doyley, Hoban, Abdi, Anya, Bia, Eustace, Neuton etc.

1234566789 wrote:

Oracledave wrote:

1234566789 wrote:
Should be fine with Hall, Doyley, Ekstrand, Briggs, Thompson, Cassetti, Chalobah all more than capable of playing there. And Hoban to come back. Especially when only playing 3 at the back

The problem as I see it is that only 'one size' is a 'proper'centre half - the others can play either side in a three but fear we will be vulnerable aerially if FH can not play (see tape v Charlton). Have not checked but has he played 8 consecutive at any time this season ?

Cardiff lost Hudson for some weeks and Fatty went out straight away and loaned in Barnet from Norwich. Would like us to do the same.

Agreed. Though I think Hoban (isnt far away from fitness I gather?) can probably do that job well enough. Would hope all 3 aren't out at one, that would be severe bad luck

All teams have to shuffle the pack and deal wiith the hand they have got.

lutondown wrote:

Eastsussexhornet wrote:

buckinghamhornet wrote:
Really am gutted to hear this news :( Nossy has been a ROCK lately and will be missed!! Just hope Matey and Lloydinio come back unscathed. COYH

Don't fret. When Hall get's injured, fret then.

NN didn't play against Leeds or Sheff Wed and we won those two games 10-2 on aggregate. Remember, there were a couple of matches this year when he didn't play well at all and faced a fair bit of critisism on here.

We have enought resource to see us through and I am sure they are not just sitting there hoping it'll all be alright. I bet a few phone calls have been made over the last 2 days.

Totally agree...see pigs do fly!

Except that you have been agreeing with me quite a lot recently. It's bad for your health LD.....

I don't think we need to panic at the moment, Briggs was brought in as cover and there are 5 days before we play Burnley. Leave it to GZ to sort it out. I'm sure there are a few irons in the fire for all eventualities. But I must say that these type of injuries have become quite commonplace over the past 10 years or so. With all the technology and training regimes that exist does anyone else agree that players are now getting to such peak forms of fitness that it only takes a misjudged tackle or quick turn of speed for the player to do damage? I would appreciate your comments because I have held this theory for a number of years.

Oh no, this is bad news, he's
been looking good, nasty injury, let's hope he makes a good recovery, all the best to Nyron. COYGBs!

One size to the rescue