Former Palermo and Chievo boss Giuseppe Sannino strong favourite to succeed Gianfranco Zola at Watford

Watford Observer: Giuseppe Sannino. Picture: Action Images Giuseppe Sannino. Picture: Action Images

There has been a large shift in the betting to become Watford’s new boss with Giuseppe Sannino now as short as 1-6 favourite to succeed Gianfranco Zola at Vicarage Road.

The 56-year-old former midfielder has managed more than 12 clubs and has Serie A experience with Siena, Palermo and Chievo.

Sannino’s initial stint at Palermo was shortlived – he lasted only three games – before he was reappointed by the Sicilians. He then took charge at Chievo but lost his job in November after just four months at the helm, with the team winning just one and losing eight of their opening 12 games.

Sannino is 1-6 with both Bet Victor and Stan James, with former West Bromwich Albion boss Steve Clarke and Udinese head coach Francesco Guidolin the next best priced at around 12-1 to 14-1.

Zola, meanwhile, is the favourite with a host of betting firms to succeed Clarke at The Hawthorns.

The Watford Observer understands the Hornets players are training today and having a pre-arranged fitness session with head of sport science Giovanni Brignardello.

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11:30am Tue 17 Dec 13

Feff says...

Who is Sannino? His CV does not look particularly good. Do you have to be Italian to get the job?
Who is Sannino? His CV does not look particularly good. Do you have to be Italian to get the job? Feff

11:35am Tue 17 Dec 13

The BestTrip2011 says...

Something of a journeyman as both player and manager in lower league Italian football, along with a brief semi-successful stint as Sienna manager in Serie A.
Obviously known to the Pozzos, I like the fact he has much experience under his belt, but how much does he know about the English Championship?
Something of a journeyman as both player and manager in lower league Italian football, along with a brief semi-successful stint as Sienna manager in Serie A. Obviously known to the Pozzos, I like the fact he has much experience under his belt, but how much does he know about the English Championship? The BestTrip2011

11:39am Tue 17 Dec 13

llloydwithathirdl says...

Nobody knew who Brendan Rodgers or Aidy Boothroyd were before they were appointed.

He could be great. Give him a chance at least.
Nobody knew who Brendan Rodgers or Aidy Boothroyd were before they were appointed. He could be great. Give him a chance at least. llloydwithathirdl

11:42am Tue 17 Dec 13

aussihornet says...

Sounds like just the person we need!

…I'll fetch my coat.
Sounds like just the person we need! …I'll fetch my coat. aussihornet

11:43am Tue 17 Dec 13

MIBSWE says...

He seems to be of a similar vein to other merry go round managers. However, it seems in Italy they are more likely to pull the trigger much quicker than even over here. But then he seems that at our level, he is the best we can get for the Money on offer and I would rather go for someone who might make a difference from abroad than the usual tired faces of the merry go round in the Championship. Steve Clarke might have been a good option, but would he want to step down both in status and Money.

It would have been good if someone at the club sooner or later explains what changed from a hot streak to 5 losses and 4 Draws. But, in my view, Zola should have stayed and then made a decision at the end of the season.

If we're going to change Managers everytime we get into a lull, then we'll be changing Managers every 6 months. teams who have a long standing Manager do tend to more successful over the longer term and unless you have some serious Money behind you like Chelsea, then you won't be able to paper over the cracks. Watford have had a lucky streak with good Managers from Aidy to Rodgers to Malky to Sean Dyche and to a degree Zola....just look at what he achieved last season.

Anyway....I'm just glad we're discussing Managerial change than administration and Selling our best players to pay debts. It wasn't too long ago we were very Close to going in to administration and now we're getting on average 15000+ fans per home game, a new stand, new good players, not having to sell our best players, a communicative Board and what seems to be owners who want to invest in Watford's future for the long term.

The next 18 months and beyond will be very interesting. There's never a boring moment at Watford.
He seems to be of a similar vein to other merry go round managers. However, it seems in Italy they are more likely to pull the trigger much quicker than even over here. But then he seems that at our level, he is the best we can get for the Money on offer and I would rather go for someone who might make a difference from abroad than the usual tired faces of the merry go round in the Championship. Steve Clarke might have been a good option, but would he want to step down both in status and Money. It would have been good if someone at the club sooner or later explains what changed from a hot streak to 5 losses and 4 Draws. But, in my view, Zola should have stayed and then made a decision at the end of the season. If we're going to change Managers everytime we get into a lull, then we'll be changing Managers every 6 months. teams who have a long standing Manager do tend to more successful over the longer term and unless you have some serious Money behind you like Chelsea, then you won't be able to paper over the cracks. Watford have had a lucky streak with good Managers from Aidy to Rodgers to Malky to Sean Dyche and to a degree Zola....just look at what he achieved last season. Anyway....I'm just glad we're discussing Managerial change than administration and Selling our best players to pay debts. It wasn't too long ago we were very Close to going in to administration and now we're getting on average 15000+ fans per home game, a new stand, new good players, not having to sell our best players, a communicative Board and what seems to be owners who want to invest in Watford's future for the long term. The next 18 months and beyond will be very interesting. There's never a boring moment at Watford. MIBSWE

11:44am Tue 17 Dec 13

Goldentrue1 says...

I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy....
Still very sad to see Zola go.
I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go. Goldentrue1

11:49am Tue 17 Dec 13

llloydwithathirdl says...

Is anyone really surprised we seem to be going for an foreign manager unknown to us?

90% of our recent signings have been foreign players unknown to us.

Most of them have worked out pretty ok. Trust in the Pozzos, they know what they're doing.
Is anyone really surprised we seem to be going for an foreign manager unknown to us? 90% of our recent signings have been foreign players unknown to us. Most of them have worked out pretty ok. Trust in the Pozzos, they know what they're doing. llloydwithathirdl

11:50am Tue 17 Dec 13

67horn says...

No thanks!
No thanks! 67horn

11:53am Tue 17 Dec 13

akureyri says...

Goldentrue1 wrote:
I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.
And the Watford Warbler.

I am watching for the sharpened knives and listening for the whining that these four were not asked their opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.[/p][/quote]And the Watford Warbler. I am watching for the sharpened knives and listening for the whining that these four were not asked their opinion. akureyri

11:54am Tue 17 Dec 13

The BestTrip2011 says...

Interesting article on Sannino…
http://www.thefootba
llexpress.co.uk/2011
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Interesting article on Sannino… http://www.thefootba llexpress.co.uk/2011 /08/a-new-face-in-se rie-a-giuseppe-sanni no/ The BestTrip2011

11:54am Tue 17 Dec 13

bob bell says...

Just what we need...another washed up Italian with a poor record in management.
Stop f.....g around and get Clarke
Just what we need...another washed up Italian with a poor record in management. Stop f.....g around and get Clarke bob bell

11:55am Tue 17 Dec 13

Pawlettfan says...

I reserve my judgement.
It seems like he hasn't had any solid successes with the teams he has managed/coached and it remains to be seen if he can a) adapt to the completely different conditions of the English Championship (and, we hope, the Premiership) b) weld a talented bunch of individuals into an effective team c) have a wide range of tactical skills beyond a Plan A.

It was GZ's limited experience in a), inability with b) and lack of c) that ultimately led to our woeful decline these last few months. Let's hope that he learns from this experience and succeeds elsewhere. I'm sure we all wish him well - and of course Sannino, should he be appointed.
I reserve my judgement. It seems like he hasn't had any solid successes with the teams he has managed/coached and it remains to be seen if he can a) adapt to the completely different conditions of the English Championship (and, we hope, the Premiership) b) weld a talented bunch of individuals into an effective team c) have a wide range of tactical skills beyond a Plan A. It was GZ's limited experience in a), inability with b) and lack of c) that ultimately led to our woeful decline these last few months. Let's hope that he learns from this experience and succeeds elsewhere. I'm sure we all wish him well - and of course Sannino, should he be appointed. Pawlettfan

12:00pm Tue 17 Dec 13

SuperHorns says...

Well I rate him for the fact we dont have to change the Gianfranco song very much.. Sannino would be a perfect fit.
Well I rate him for the fact we dont have to change the Gianfranco song very much.. Sannino would be a perfect fit. SuperHorns

12:03pm Tue 17 Dec 13

The BestTrip2011 says...

SuperHorns wrote:
Well I rate him for the fact we dont have to change the Gianfranco song very much.. Sannino would be a perfect fit.
Except he looks a little taller than 5ft 3
[quote][p][bold]SuperHorns[/bold] wrote: Well I rate him for the fact we dont have to change the Gianfranco song very much.. Sannino would be a perfect fit.[/p][/quote]Except he looks a little taller than 5ft 3 The BestTrip2011

12:11pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

akureyri wrote:
Goldentrue1 wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.
And the Watford Warbler. I am watching for the sharpened knives and listening for the whining that these four were not asked their opinion.
boring. boring boring.

if you can't discuss football facts then don't contribute
[quote][p][bold]akureyri[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.[/p][/quote]And the Watford Warbler. I am watching for the sharpened knives and listening for the whining that these four were not asked their opinion.[/p][/quote]boring. boring boring. if you can't discuss football facts then don't contribute Hornet Cornet

12:34pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Harrydownunder says...

Such a shame Zola pulled the pin. I can't help feeling he has been shafted by Nani again though. Think how different things would be if we had kept hold of NC and MV. Plus we have been so unlucky with injuries.

That said, I reckon Clarke would be perfect.

Has it ever happened before where two managers have resigned / sacked then swapped jobs???
Such a shame Zola pulled the pin. I can't help feeling he has been shafted by Nani again though. Think how different things would be if we had kept hold of NC and MV. Plus we have been so unlucky with injuries. That said, I reckon Clarke would be perfect. Has it ever happened before where two managers have resigned / sacked then swapped jobs??? Harrydownunder

12:44pm Tue 17 Dec 13

andyandyandy says...

This fellas lack of knowledge in the English game especially the Championship could see us playing league one football next season.. That is a reality!
This fellas lack of knowledge in the English game especially the Championship could see us playing league one football next season.. That is a reality! andyandyandy

12:57pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Oracledave says...

MIBSWE wrote:
He seems to be of a similar vein to other merry go round managers. However, it seems in Italy they are more likely to pull the trigger much quicker than even over here. But then he seems that at our level, he is the best we can get for the Money on offer and I would rather go for someone who might make a difference from abroad than the usual tired faces of the merry go round in the Championship. Steve Clarke might have been a good option, but would he want to step down both in status and Money.

It would have been good if someone at the club sooner or later explains what changed from a hot streak to 5 losses and 4 Draws. But, in my view, Zola should have stayed and then made a decision at the end of the season.

If we're going to change Managers everytime we get into a lull, then we'll be changing Managers every 6 months. teams who have a long standing Manager do tend to more successful over the longer term and unless you have some serious Money behind you like Chelsea, then you won't be able to paper over the cracks. Watford have had a lucky streak with good Managers from Aidy to Rodgers to Malky to Sean Dyche and to a degree Zola....just look at what he achieved last season.

Anyway....I'm just glad we're discussing Managerial change than administration and Selling our best players to pay debts. It wasn't too long ago we were very Close to going in to administration and now we're getting on average 15000+ fans per home game, a new stand, new good players, not having to sell our best players, a communicative Board and what seems to be owners who want to invest in Watford's future for the long term.

The next 18 months and beyond will be very interesting. There's never a boring moment at Watford.
I would say that the dramatic drop in home form was an accident waiting to happen. Think back to the initial 5 home games. The draws against Forest and Charlton were unconvincing as were the victories against both Wigan (who had a perfectly good goal chalked off for offside) and Doncaster (very dodgy penalty late on). Even the Bournemouth rout was confined to the second half !

In fact over the entire GFZ period we have been vastly better away from home than at the Vic !

That in my view was the problem which GFZ struggled with and ultimately failed to fix and which will be the primary objective of the next boss.
[quote][p][bold]MIBSWE[/bold] wrote: He seems to be of a similar vein to other merry go round managers. However, it seems in Italy they are more likely to pull the trigger much quicker than even over here. But then he seems that at our level, he is the best we can get for the Money on offer and I would rather go for someone who might make a difference from abroad than the usual tired faces of the merry go round in the Championship. Steve Clarke might have been a good option, but would he want to step down both in status and Money. It would have been good if someone at the club sooner or later explains what changed from a hot streak to 5 losses and 4 Draws. But, in my view, Zola should have stayed and then made a decision at the end of the season. If we're going to change Managers everytime we get into a lull, then we'll be changing Managers every 6 months. teams who have a long standing Manager do tend to more successful over the longer term and unless you have some serious Money behind you like Chelsea, then you won't be able to paper over the cracks. Watford have had a lucky streak with good Managers from Aidy to Rodgers to Malky to Sean Dyche and to a degree Zola....just look at what he achieved last season. Anyway....I'm just glad we're discussing Managerial change than administration and Selling our best players to pay debts. It wasn't too long ago we were very Close to going in to administration and now we're getting on average 15000+ fans per home game, a new stand, new good players, not having to sell our best players, a communicative Board and what seems to be owners who want to invest in Watford's future for the long term. The next 18 months and beyond will be very interesting. There's never a boring moment at Watford.[/p][/quote]I would say that the dramatic drop in home form was an accident waiting to happen. Think back to the initial 5 home games. The draws against Forest and Charlton were unconvincing as were the victories against both Wigan (who had a perfectly good goal chalked off for offside) and Doncaster (very dodgy penalty late on). Even the Bournemouth rout was confined to the second half ! In fact over the entire GFZ period we have been vastly better away from home than at the Vic ! That in my view was the problem which GFZ struggled with and ultimately failed to fix and which will be the primary objective of the next boss. Oracledave

1:26pm Tue 17 Dec 13

akureyri says...

At least we are not discussing the usual suspects as a new manager: Dowie, Holloway, Curbishley. I am suprised to not see Graham Taylor in the betting, but i suppose that would be recognised as lazy listing.

If Giuseppe Sannino can sort our defence out he'll get a vote from me. If you do not concede goals you do not lose.
At least we are not discussing the usual suspects as a new manager: Dowie, Holloway, Curbishley. I am suprised to not see Graham Taylor in the betting, but i suppose that would be recognised as lazy listing. If Giuseppe Sannino can sort our defence out he'll get a vote from me. If you do not concede goals you do not lose. akureyri

1:35pm Tue 17 Dec 13

demerit says...

Goldentrue1 wrote:
I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy....
Still very sad to see Zola go.
You really are an idiot aren't you?

I wanted Zola to go as sad as it was but why would that mean that I love this guy when up until 10 mins ago, I'd never heard of him? Maybe I will. Maybe we all will. Who knows?

Unplug your heart for a minute and engage your brain.
[quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.[/p][/quote]You really are an idiot aren't you? I wanted Zola to go as sad as it was but why would that mean that I love this guy when up until 10 mins ago, I'd never heard of him? Maybe I will. Maybe we all will. Who knows? Unplug your heart for a minute and engage your brain. demerit

1:36pm Tue 17 Dec 13

demerit says...

akureyri wrote:
Goldentrue1 wrote:
I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.
And the Watford Warbler.

I am watching for the sharpened knives and listening for the whining that these four were not asked their opinion.
Another idiot arrives on the scene...
[quote][p][bold]akureyri[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.[/p][/quote]And the Watford Warbler. I am watching for the sharpened knives and listening for the whining that these four were not asked their opinion.[/p][/quote]Another idiot arrives on the scene... demerit

1:37pm Tue 17 Dec 13

DuffmanWFC says...

This guys track record isn't great!
We need someone who understands this league and can turn things around quickly!
I'd prefer Steve Clarke out of the three being tipped as he's British, has plenty of knowledge of the game and has worked with the best!
I'm sceptical of a foreign appointment that has no experience of English football or can't speak the language!
I know we have a lot of European players in our squad but we need someone who can get his points over and motivate all our players!
What we have missed is a top goal scorer to partner Deeney, we have a good squad and with some motivation, hard graft and a little luck and a good signing in the January window there is no reason why we can't make the play offs!
I'll miss Zola football and it's sad it's come to this but we've been poor the last few months or we have done poor things in games that have cost us points!
However this is the owners chance to reflect and hopefully make the right appointment and back the man with cash and move us up the league!
Come on u Orns!
This guys track record isn't great! We need someone who understands this league and can turn things around quickly! I'd prefer Steve Clarke out of the three being tipped as he's British, has plenty of knowledge of the game and has worked with the best! I'm sceptical of a foreign appointment that has no experience of English football or can't speak the language! I know we have a lot of European players in our squad but we need someone who can get his points over and motivate all our players! What we have missed is a top goal scorer to partner Deeney, we have a good squad and with some motivation, hard graft and a little luck and a good signing in the January window there is no reason why we can't make the play offs! I'll miss Zola football and it's sad it's come to this but we've been poor the last few months or we have done poor things in games that have cost us points! However this is the owners chance to reflect and hopefully make the right appointment and back the man with cash and move us up the league! Come on u Orns! DuffmanWFC

1:49pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Dino1982 says...

The BestTrip2011 wrote:
SuperHorns wrote:
Well I rate him for the fact we dont have to change the Gianfranco song very much.. Sannino would be a perfect fit.
Except he looks a little taller than 5ft 3
Don't you think he looks a bit like the guy from the programme LOST?
[quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperHorns[/bold] wrote: Well I rate him for the fact we dont have to change the Gianfranco song very much.. Sannino would be a perfect fit.[/p][/quote]Except he looks a little taller than 5ft 3[/p][/quote]Don't you think he looks a bit like the guy from the programme LOST? Dino1982

1:55pm Tue 17 Dec 13

akureyri says...

demerit wrote:
akureyri wrote:
Goldentrue1 wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.
And the Watford Warbler. I am watching for the sharpened knives and listening for the whining that these four were not asked their opinion.
Another idiot arrives on the scene...
That makes five of us then.
[quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]akureyri[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.[/p][/quote]And the Watford Warbler. I am watching for the sharpened knives and listening for the whining that these four were not asked their opinion.[/p][/quote]Another idiot arrives on the scene...[/p][/quote]That makes five of us then. akureyri

3:21pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

demerit wrote:
Goldentrue1 wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.
You really are an idiot aren't you? I wanted Zola to go as sad as it was but why would that mean that I love this guy when up until 10 mins ago, I'd never heard of him? Maybe I will. Maybe we all will. Who knows? Unplug your heart for a minute and engage your brain.
Totally agree - GoldenTrue is just a bandwagonner
[quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.[/p][/quote]You really are an idiot aren't you? I wanted Zola to go as sad as it was but why would that mean that I love this guy when up until 10 mins ago, I'd never heard of him? Maybe I will. Maybe we all will. Who knows? Unplug your heart for a minute and engage your brain.[/p][/quote]Totally agree - GoldenTrue is just a bandwagonner Hornet Cornet

4:05pm Tue 17 Dec 13

CaptainPC says...

Prediction-League One next season........The ghost of WFC.
Prediction-League One next season........The ghost of WFC. CaptainPC

4:10pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Goldentrue1 says...

demerit wrote:
Goldentrue1 wrote:
I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy....
Still very sad to see Zola go.
You really are an idiot aren't you?

I wanted Zola to go as sad as it was but why would that mean that I love this guy when up until 10 mins ago, I'd never heard of him? Maybe I will. Maybe we all will. Who knows?

Unplug your heart for a minute and engage your brain.
irony... a bit beyond you...
[quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.[/p][/quote]You really are an idiot aren't you? I wanted Zola to go as sad as it was but why would that mean that I love this guy when up until 10 mins ago, I'd never heard of him? Maybe I will. Maybe we all will. Who knows? Unplug your heart for a minute and engage your brain.[/p][/quote]irony... a bit beyond you... Goldentrue1

4:13pm Tue 17 Dec 13

SAHornet says...

The BestTrip2011 wrote:
Something of a journeyman as both player and manager in lower league Italian football, along with a brief semi-successful stint as Sienna manager in Serie A.
Obviously known to the Pozzos, I like the fact he has much experience under his belt, but how much does he know about the English Championship?
I don't like much of anything that I read, to be honest K. Anyway, mustn't be negative. It may not be him and if it is, he may be mustard. D
[quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: Something of a journeyman as both player and manager in lower league Italian football, along with a brief semi-successful stint as Sienna manager in Serie A. Obviously known to the Pozzos, I like the fact he has much experience under his belt, but how much does he know about the English Championship?[/p][/quote]I don't like much of anything that I read, to be honest K. Anyway, mustn't be negative. It may not be him and if it is, he may be mustard. D SAHornet

4:18pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Goldentrue1 says...

I have just lifted this from another post elsewhere. Not my words but couldn't have been put any better...

today I feel sad. Sixteen amazing months and an incredibly bright future ahead, all thrown away because of two months of poor form - it just doesn't feel right.

People will respond by saying "it's a results business", but we are a club that is laying down a foundation for the future, not one that is simply looking for instant success. A new manager will come in, and he may turn our season around - he may even get us promoted, and upon doing so will be hailed as brilliant. He will spend a further season with us in the EPL, and will then leave us for the first club that waves a big pay-packet in his face. Gianfranco would never have done that - he would only have ever left us for Chelsea, or a top European side, and understandably so.

We could have been different, we could have actually built a real legacy at our club, but it's not to be. As a lifelong Watford fan, I will unconditionally support my club through every situation imaginable, but if the next manager doesn't turn out to be successful, I hope all the naysayers, boo-boys, and short-sighted Watford fans out there have a good, long look at themselves.
I have just lifted this from another post elsewhere. Not my words but couldn't have been put any better... today I feel sad. Sixteen amazing months and an incredibly bright future ahead, all thrown away because of two months of poor form - it just doesn't feel right. People will respond by saying "it's a results business", but we are a club that is laying down a foundation for the future, not one that is simply looking for instant success. A new manager will come in, and he may turn our season around - he may even get us promoted, and upon doing so will be hailed as brilliant. He will spend a further season with us in the EPL, and will then leave us for the first club that waves a big pay-packet in his face. Gianfranco would never have done that - he would only have ever left us for Chelsea, or a top European side, and understandably so. We could have been different, we could have actually built a real legacy at our club, but it's not to be. As a lifelong Watford fan, I will unconditionally support my club through every situation imaginable, but if the next manager doesn't turn out to be successful, I hope all the naysayers, boo-boys, and short-sighted Watford fans out there have a good, long look at themselves. Goldentrue1

4:32pm Tue 17 Dec 13

lennyj says...

Too late now but maybe Sannino should have been brought in to "assist" GZ through this awful run we are having, and for GZ to learn from him?
Too late now but maybe Sannino should have been brought in to "assist" GZ through this awful run we are having, and for GZ to learn from him? lennyj

4:35pm Tue 17 Dec 13

jaemae2 says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
akureyri wrote:
Goldentrue1 wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.
And the Watford Warbler. I am watching for the sharpened knives and listening for the whining that these four were not asked their opinion.
boring. boring boring.

if you can't discuss football facts then don't contribute
so I guess you will never post again if that's your policy?
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]akureyri[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.[/p][/quote]And the Watford Warbler. I am watching for the sharpened knives and listening for the whining that these four were not asked their opinion.[/p][/quote]boring. boring boring. if you can't discuss football facts then don't contribute[/p][/quote]so I guess you will never post again if that's your policy? jaemae2

4:42pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

Goldentrue1 wrote:
demerit wrote:
Goldentrue1 wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.
You really are an idiot aren't you? I wanted Zola to go as sad as it was but why would that mean that I love this guy when up until 10 mins ago, I'd never heard of him? Maybe I will. Maybe we all will. Who knows? Unplug your heart for a minute and engage your brain.
irony... a bit beyond you...
you can't even tie your shoelaces
[quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: I can see HC, demerit and Roger loving this guy.... Still very sad to see Zola go.[/p][/quote]You really are an idiot aren't you? I wanted Zola to go as sad as it was but why would that mean that I love this guy when up until 10 mins ago, I'd never heard of him? Maybe I will. Maybe we all will. Who knows? Unplug your heart for a minute and engage your brain.[/p][/quote]irony... a bit beyond you...[/p][/quote]you can't even tie your shoelaces Hornet Cornet

4:43pm Tue 17 Dec 13

coldplay says...

DuffmanWFC wrote:
This guys track record isn't great!
We need someone who understands this league and can turn things around quickly!
I'd prefer Steve Clarke out of the three being tipped as he's British, has plenty of knowledge of the game and has worked with the best!
I'm sceptical of a foreign appointment that has no experience of English football or can't speak the language!
I know we have a lot of European players in our squad but we need someone who can get his points over and motivate all our players!
What we have missed is a top goal scorer to partner Deeney, we have a good squad and with some motivation, hard graft and a little luck and a good signing in the January window there is no reason why we can't make the play offs!
I'll miss Zola football and it's sad it's come to this but we've been poor the last few months or we have done poor things in games that have cost us points!
However this is the owners chance to reflect and hopefully make the right appointment and back the man with cash and move us up the league!
Come on u Orns!
Like most others I don't know categorically what's gone on behind the scenes but for me the performances of late point to a problem with squad unity and discipline. GFZ's football philosophy and positive way of playing was great but how accomplished he was at managing, particularly challenging individuals, is open to question. Poor relationships and friction between certain players, ill discipline and bad attitudes that weren't addressed could be rumour and conjecture or may lie at the heart of why it all went wrong.
I believe whoever is appointed needs to be a disciplinarian and get everyone back on track with a common purpose, sort out the egos and attitudes, if that is the problem, and be a strong and uncomplicated team leader that commands respect. Not bothered whether the new man is British or foreign...half the squad are not British anyway...strong leadership and great coaching to get back in the race this year...it's still possible.
[quote][p][bold]DuffmanWFC[/bold] wrote: This guys track record isn't great! We need someone who understands this league and can turn things around quickly! I'd prefer Steve Clarke out of the three being tipped as he's British, has plenty of knowledge of the game and has worked with the best! I'm sceptical of a foreign appointment that has no experience of English football or can't speak the language! I know we have a lot of European players in our squad but we need someone who can get his points over and motivate all our players! What we have missed is a top goal scorer to partner Deeney, we have a good squad and with some motivation, hard graft and a little luck and a good signing in the January window there is no reason why we can't make the play offs! I'll miss Zola football and it's sad it's come to this but we've been poor the last few months or we have done poor things in games that have cost us points! However this is the owners chance to reflect and hopefully make the right appointment and back the man with cash and move us up the league! Come on u Orns![/p][/quote]Like most others I don't know categorically what's gone on behind the scenes but for me the performances of late point to a problem with squad unity and discipline. GFZ's football philosophy and positive way of playing was great but how accomplished he was at managing, particularly challenging individuals, is open to question. Poor relationships and friction between certain players, ill discipline and bad attitudes that weren't addressed could be rumour and conjecture or may lie at the heart of why it all went wrong. I believe whoever is appointed needs to be a disciplinarian and get everyone back on track with a common purpose, sort out the egos and attitudes, if that is the problem, and be a strong and uncomplicated team leader that commands respect. Not bothered whether the new man is British or foreign...half the squad are not British anyway...strong leadership and great coaching to get back in the race this year...it's still possible. coldplay

5:05pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Oracledave says...

Goldentrue1 wrote:
I have just lifted this from another post elsewhere. Not my words but couldn't have been put any better...

today I feel sad. Sixteen amazing months and an incredibly bright future ahead, all thrown away because of two months of poor form - it just doesn't feel right.

People will respond by saying "it's a results business", but we are a club that is laying down a foundation for the future, not one that is simply looking for instant success. A new manager will come in, and he may turn our season around - he may even get us promoted, and upon doing so will be hailed as brilliant. He will spend a further season with us in the EPL, and will then leave us for the first club that waves a big pay-packet in his face. Gianfranco would never have done that - he would only have ever left us for Chelsea, or a top European side, and understandably so.

We could have been different, we could have actually built a real legacy at our club, but it's not to be. As a lifelong Watford fan, I will unconditionally support my club through every situation imaginable, but if the next manager doesn't turn out to be successful, I hope all the naysayers, boo-boys, and short-sighted Watford fans out there have a good, long look at themselves.
This of course has to be directed at GFZ since he resigned and was not sacked. Speculation as to the amount of pressure that he was under is just that - speculation !
[quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: I have just lifted this from another post elsewhere. Not my words but couldn't have been put any better... today I feel sad. Sixteen amazing months and an incredibly bright future ahead, all thrown away because of two months of poor form - it just doesn't feel right. People will respond by saying "it's a results business", but we are a club that is laying down a foundation for the future, not one that is simply looking for instant success. A new manager will come in, and he may turn our season around - he may even get us promoted, and upon doing so will be hailed as brilliant. He will spend a further season with us in the EPL, and will then leave us for the first club that waves a big pay-packet in his face. Gianfranco would never have done that - he would only have ever left us for Chelsea, or a top European side, and understandably so. We could have been different, we could have actually built a real legacy at our club, but it's not to be. As a lifelong Watford fan, I will unconditionally support my club through every situation imaginable, but if the next manager doesn't turn out to be successful, I hope all the naysayers, boo-boys, and short-sighted Watford fans out there have a good, long look at themselves.[/p][/quote]This of course has to be directed at GFZ since he resigned and was not sacked. Speculation as to the amount of pressure that he was under is just that - speculation ! Oracledave

5:35pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Dunderdale Pinner says...

I will reserve judgement on any new manager until he has done three months with us. If Sr. Sannino does take the job and plays similar football to GFZ then fine BUT he must get an assistant who is not a "yes" man, knows English football, especially the Championship and can improve the defence. I hope the position is filled sooner rather than later so that any squad improvements required can be done early in January.
I will reserve judgement on any new manager until he has done three months with us. If Sr. Sannino does take the job and plays similar football to GFZ then fine BUT he must get an assistant who is not a "yes" man, knows English football, especially the Championship and can improve the defence. I hope the position is filled sooner rather than later so that any squad improvements required can be done early in January. Dunderdale Pinner

5:52pm Tue 17 Dec 13

SuperHorn says...

bob bell wrote:
Just what we need...another washed up Italian with a poor record in management.
Stop f.....g around and get Clarke
I would agree although I would like to see a 'smaller' manager take over, like this guy. However, I would prefer an unheard of Brit, like how Dyche and Boothroyd were
[quote][p][bold]bob bell[/bold] wrote: Just what we need...another washed up Italian with a poor record in management. Stop f.....g around and get Clarke[/p][/quote]I would agree although I would like to see a 'smaller' manager take over, like this guy. However, I would prefer an unheard of Brit, like how Dyche and Boothroyd were SuperHorn

7:10pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Colin.Foster's.Left.Boot says...

Kenny Jackett for me. With Nigel Gibbs back on the coaching staff.
Kenny Jackett for me. With Nigel Gibbs back on the coaching staff. Colin.Foster's.Left.Boot

8:39pm Tue 17 Dec 13

mickallen57 says...

From his photo he looks as if discipline will not be a problem ,like most I had not heard Mr Sannino ,but if he is to be the next man in charge good luck to him.
Zola has left a great squad ,who on their day can beat anyone in this division . True we need a striker and some tinkering ,but if he can sort out the defence an Italian speciality (sorry GFZ ) and get that team playing as we know they can. Then glory beckons COYH

ps Getting tired of the constant name calling on this site, I come on here to listen to the news and opinions of other fans . If I don't agree then I would challenge their views. But that difference makes for an interesting debate . I would always respond coming from the view point that we come from a shared love of Watford and that IMO demands that I respect others views . Now if they were Luton fans please disregard the above
From his photo he looks as if discipline will not be a problem ,like most I had not heard Mr Sannino ,but if he is to be the next man in charge good luck to him. Zola has left a great squad ,who on their day can beat anyone in this division . True we need a striker and some tinkering ,but if he can sort out the defence an Italian speciality (sorry GFZ ) and get that team playing as we know they can. Then glory beckons COYH ps Getting tired of the constant name calling on this site, I come on here to listen to the news and opinions of other fans . If I don't agree then I would challenge their views. But that difference makes for an interesting debate . I would always respond coming from the view point that we come from a shared love of Watford and that IMO demands that I respect others views . Now if they were Luton fans please disregard the above mickallen57

9:19pm Tue 17 Dec 13

KeithMercer says...

mickallen57 wrote:
From his photo he looks as if discipline will not be a problem ,like most I had not heard Mr Sannino ,but if he is to be the next man in charge good luck to him.
Zola has left a great squad ,who on their day can beat anyone in this division . True we need a striker and some tinkering ,but if he can sort out the defence an Italian speciality (sorry GFZ ) and get that team playing as we know they can. Then glory beckons COYH

ps Getting tired of the constant name calling on this site, I come on here to listen to the news and opinions of other fans . If I don't agree then I would challenge their views. But that difference makes for an interesting debate . I would always respond coming from the view point that we come from a shared love of Watford and that IMO demands that I respect others views . Now if they were Luton fans please disregard the above
There shouldnt be to much name calling or squabbling now that the Wobbly has seen sense and banned the Warbler, Hopefully we can all get on now and help find the best solutions for this great CLUB that we love.
[quote][p][bold]mickallen57[/bold] wrote: From his photo he looks as if discipline will not be a problem ,like most I had not heard Mr Sannino ,but if he is to be the next man in charge good luck to him. Zola has left a great squad ,who on their day can beat anyone in this division . True we need a striker and some tinkering ,but if he can sort out the defence an Italian speciality (sorry GFZ ) and get that team playing as we know they can. Then glory beckons COYH ps Getting tired of the constant name calling on this site, I come on here to listen to the news and opinions of other fans . If I don't agree then I would challenge their views. But that difference makes for an interesting debate . I would always respond coming from the view point that we come from a shared love of Watford and that IMO demands that I respect others views . Now if they were Luton fans please disregard the above[/p][/quote]There shouldnt be to much name calling or squabbling now that the Wobbly has seen sense and banned the Warbler, Hopefully we can all get on now and help find the best solutions for this great CLUB that we love. KeithMercer

9:31pm Tue 17 Dec 13

snibbo says...

Those who felt that GFZ was on his own without back-up seem justified
by events. Normally when a manager goes the assistant manager or
some such "title" is a caretaker.
No suggestion of such a person here as there seems to be no-one of
that ilk!
Hopefully whoever comes in will have input from others with experience
and therefore suggesting other options.
snibbo
Those who felt that GFZ was on his own without back-up seem justified by events. Normally when a manager goes the assistant manager or some such "title" is a caretaker. No suggestion of such a person here as there seems to be no-one of that ilk! Hopefully whoever comes in will have input from others with experience and therefore suggesting other options. snibbo snibbo

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