Watford beaten by Reading as Udinese loan signing Alexander Merkel sees red on debut

Watford Observer: Beaten Hornets left to count cost of missed chances Beaten Hornets left to count cost of missed chances

Watford’s unbeaten run under Beppe Sannino is over after they were beaten 1-0 by Reading at Vicarage Road – although they will be wondering how they didn’t take at least a point from the game.

Kaspars Gorkss scored what turned out to be the winner after just five minutes but the Hornets had several good opportunities in the second half to get on back on terms.

The hosts though, were to finish the game with ten men after Alexander Merkel was shown a straight red card in injury time for a reckless challenge on Nick Blackman.

Merkel was given his Hornets debut as Beppe Sannino made four changes from the side which drew 1-1 at Bristol City in the FA Cup last week.

The Udinese loan signing was deployed in the holding midfield role as Lloyd Doyley came back into the starting line-up, along with Hector Bellerin and the fit-again Daniel Pudil.

Nyron Nosworthy, Cristian Battocchio and Iriney dropped to a bench which also included Fernando Forestieri and Davide Faraoni following their respective injuries but Marco Cassetti missed out with a knee problem. There was also a change in the replacement goalkeepers with Gary Woods replacing Jonathan Bond, who was ill.

Reading went out of the FA Cup following a 1-0 defeat at Brighton & Hove Albion seven days previously and boss Nigel Adkins made five changes to his side.

In came goalkeeper Alex McCarthy, Danny Williams, Hope Akpan, former Hornet and skipper Jobi McAnuff and Pavel Pogrebnyak. Adam Federici, Stephen Kelly, Jake Taylor and Blackman dropped to the bench, while Danny Guthrie missed out through injury.

Manuel Almunia was forced into action in the opening 20 seconds when he had to punch away a dangerus Garath McCleary cross from the right. The Royals continued to threaten in the early stages but their hosts almost enjoyed an opening in the fourth minute when Gorkss got just enough on Sean Murray’s slide-rule pass to take some of the pace off the ball and McCarthy was able to gather before Troy Deeney could latch on it.

Watford Observer:

But Reading’s promising start was rewarded when they made the breakthrough in the fifth minute.

The visitors were awarded the first corner of the match when a Jordan Obita shot from the edge of the area was deflected behind and it was the Royals left-back who took the set piece from the right, sending an in-swinging delivery towards the near post where Gorkss got the first run to flick a header past the helpless Almunia and make it 1-0, although there were suggestions the last touch may have come off Lewis McGugan.

The midfielder had the Hornets’ first attempt three minutes later when he dragged a shot wide from 25 yards but the home side were nearly punished again when McAnuff latched on to a loose pass from Merkel, who had made a rusty start to the game, and accelerated inside off the left flank before hitting a shot from the edge of the area back across goal and not too far wide of Almunia’s right-hand post.

Adam Le Fondre was the first player to be booked for delaying a free-kick in the 17th minute and when McGugan was eventually able to take it, his right-footed effort from 25 yards spun up off the top of the wall and McCarthy was able to claim with relative ease.

The Hornets were coming more into the game though, and they had another opportunity when Bellerin got in down the right and his attempted ball into the near post was superbly cut out by Alex Pearce as Deeney tried to get across the front of him. However, the ball broke to the edge of the penalty area where Merkel went for precision rather than power and McCarthy was able to save.

Watford Observer:

But Reading had another chance in the 23rd minute when McAnuff won a free-kick close to the goalline on the left and his lofted delivery was met by Pavel Pogrebnyak, but he was unable to keep his header beneath the bar.

The game then went into something of a malaise, but the visitors continued to look the more composed of the two teams, until the 35th minute when Watford were awarded a free-kick on the left side of the area and McGugan’s dangerous far-post delivery was cut out by Obita with Pudil and Gabriele Angella both waiting to attack with their heads.

McGugan again did well two minutes later to get down the left side of the penalty area and, under pressure, squeeze in a cross but both Deeney and Diego Fabbrini got attracted to the near post and the ball bypassed them both.

The pressure continued with Fabbrini playing a lovely incisive pass that picked out Pudil towards the left of the 18-yard box, he pulled the ball back and Murray was superbly placed to convert but he couldn’t reach the ball with an outstretched leg.

McGugan was again involved moments later when he whipped in another good delivery from a free-kick, this time from a deeper position, but Pudil was unable to get on the end of it at the far post.

Watford Observer:

Merkel received his first yellow card in English football two minutes before the break for a foul on Pogrebnyak as the Hornets ended the opening period trailing.

Danny Williams fired the first shot of the second half over from an angle after the visitors had taken a corner but six minutes after the break a precise Bellerin delivery from the right picked out the unmarked Deeney but he was unable to direct his header past McCarthy.

Williams fired another long-range effort over the top but then Le Fondre wasn’t too far away from adding a second, fizzing a rising drive wide after Pogrebnyak had headed a cross-field ball down to him on the edge of the area.

Watford Observer:

Sannino made his first change in the 54th minute, bringing on Forestieri for Bellerin and switching to a 4-3-3 formation, and then the visitors picked up two bookings in quick succession, with Obita and McAnuff seeing yellow for fouls on McGugan and Fabbrini respectively.

The temperature was rising and Watford weren’t too far away from levelling in the 62nd minute when Forestieri’s blind-side ball released McGugan on the right side of the area, his pull back ran across to the opposite side of the 18-yard box where Pudil drove it back in and Deeney turned the ball goal-wards, only for McCarthy to palm it over the top.

An even better chance came and went soon after when, with the game becoming increasingly stretched, Deeney was released on the right and his pin-point delivery picked out an unmarked Forestieri, who missed the target from six yards out.

Watford Observer:

McGugan then drove forward and fired wide from 20 yards before the Hornets contrived to miss another great chance in the 67th minute.

Fabbrini initially looked like he had delayed too long on the edge of the penalty area before laying the ball out to the supporting Doyley on the right and he squared for Deeney, who snatched at his finish and lifted it over the top.

Doyley was again involved offensively when he fed McGugan to his right and the former Nottingham Forest man laid the ball inside to Angella, who hit a first-time effort wide of the near post.

The Hornets’ second change came in the 73rd minute when Battocchio replaced Murray and, after McCarthy had saved an angled drive from McGugan with his legs, Faraoni came on for Doyley.

Watford had been well on top but they survived a scare with ten minutes remaining when a free-kick from the right fell beyond the far post for McCleary, he lifted the ball in, Le Fondre flung himself at it and missed and Pogrebnyak was only able to head the ball back in the direction it came.

Blackman then replaced Akpan before Forestieri was booked for diving, even though he seemed to be taken out on the edge of the penalty area.

Shaun Cummings came on for Obita with six minutes left and then McCleary made way for Taylor, whose first involvement was to get away down the right and send over a deep cross which Pogrebnyak couldn’t divert back on target from past the far post.

Forestieri sent a ridiculous ambitious volley high and wide from the left outer edge of the penalty area as the game entered five minutes of additional time before Faraoni managed to work an opening on the opposite side of the 18-yard box but his attempt across goal also missed the target.

Merkel had been walking a disciplinary tightrope after his earlier booking but he could have few complaints at his fate in injury time after a reckless lunge on Blackman ended in a straight red card.

Blackman’s indiscipline was then to offer Watford one last opportunity. He was booked for a foul on Angella around 25 yards out, McGugan hit the free-kick low and hard towards the far corner but McCarthy pushed it behind.

Before Watford could take the corner though, referee Keith Stroud blew the final whistle, much to the annoyance of Pudil in particular who was booked for his protests.

Watford Observer:

Watford: Almunia; Doyley (Faraoni 78), Angella, Ekstrand; Bellerin (Forestieri 54), McGugan, Merkel, Murray (Battocchio 73), Pudil; Fabbrini, Deeney. Not used: Woods, Hall, Iriney, Nosworthy.

Reading: McCarthy; Gunter, Pearce, Gorkss, Obita (Cummings 84); McCleary (J Taylor 87), Williams, Akpan (Blackman 82), McAnuff; LeFondre, Pogrebnyak. Not used: Federici, Kelly, Drenthe, Hector.

Bookings: LeFondre for delaying a free-kick (17); Merkel for a foul on Pogrebnyak (43); Obita for a foul on McGugan (56); McAnuff for a foul on Fabbrini (58); Forestieri for simulation (83); Merkel sent off for a foul on Blackman (90); Blackman for a foul on Angella (90); Pudil for dissent (after final whistle).

Attendance: 15,725 (1,636 away).

Referee: Keith Stroud.

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5:27pm Sat 11 Jan 14

JohnnyHornet says...

Well a few weeks on since Zola left, have to admit we were poor in the first half bordering clueless too many half way line cross passes going nowhere, when we did go forward Deeney was isolated, second half a bit better shocking attempts on goal, couldn't hit a co's ar53 with a banjo springs to mind, just not good enough, too many individuals and not enough of a team.
Well a few weeks on since Zola left, have to admit we were poor in the first half bordering clueless too many half way line cross passes going nowhere, when we did go forward Deeney was isolated, second half a bit better shocking attempts on goal, couldn't hit a co's ar53 with a banjo springs to mind, just not good enough, too many individuals and not enough of a team. JohnnyHornet
  • Score: -2

5:29pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Hornet Cornet says...

Thanks for the mess GZ.
Merkel - grow up or get lost
Thanks for the mess GZ. Merkel - grow up or get lost Hornet Cornet
  • Score: -120

5:36pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Bush Hornet says...

JohnnyHornet wrote:
Well a few weeks on since Zola left, have to admit we were poor in the first half bordering clueless too many half way line cross passes going nowhere, when we did go forward Deeney was isolated, second half a bit better shocking attempts on goal, couldn't hit a co's ar53 with a banjo springs to mind, just not good enough, too many individuals and not enough of a team.
Yeah that's about right. Worst first half I've seen this season but credit to Beppe he had a few ideas for 2nd half and made good subs. Unwelcome return to the old days of head tennis and pumping some long balls in. Still no end product :-(

Reading were there for the taking in 2nd half so I'm very disappointed.
[quote][p][bold]JohnnyHornet[/bold] wrote: Well a few weeks on since Zola left, have to admit we were poor in the first half bordering clueless too many half way line cross passes going nowhere, when we did go forward Deeney was isolated, second half a bit better shocking attempts on goal, couldn't hit a co's ar53 with a banjo springs to mind, just not good enough, too many individuals and not enough of a team.[/p][/quote]Yeah that's about right. Worst first half I've seen this season but credit to Beppe he had a few ideas for 2nd half and made good subs. Unwelcome return to the old days of head tennis and pumping some long balls in. Still no end product :-( Reading were there for the taking in 2nd half so I'm very disappointed. Bush Hornet
  • Score: -7

5:38pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Watforce says...

... and that's why we need a striker.
Merkel looked good to me (apart from the horrible challenge), comfortable on the ball, especially 2nd half. Great ball from AM to FF, for FF to send shot into row Z.
We lack a finisher, we had more than enough chances to win this match.
... and that's why we need a striker. Merkel looked good to me (apart from the horrible challenge), comfortable on the ball, especially 2nd half. Great ball from AM to FF, for FF to send shot into row Z. We lack a finisher, we had more than enough chances to win this match. Watforce
  • Score: -9

5:48pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Watford-James says...

I thought Merkel looked great and deserved to be clapped off at the end.shame about the challenge but no question he has fight. Get behind him and we could have a good player on our hands.
I thought Merkel looked great and deserved to be clapped off at the end.shame about the challenge but no question he has fight. Get behind him and we could have a good player on our hands. Watford-James
  • Score: 3

5:48pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Bigads123 says...

Feel sorry for acuna Deeney is no natural goal scorer and misses so many chances, but is never dropped. We need a box type finisher ASAP or we could be sucked into a relegation battle
Feel sorry for acuna Deeney is no natural goal scorer and misses so many chances, but is never dropped. We need a box type finisher ASAP or we could be sucked into a relegation battle Bigads123
  • Score: -12

5:59pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Matej1986 says...

Easy to see why this idiot from Italy been sacked soooooooo many times!! No clue whatsoever sack him now.
Easy to see why this idiot from Italy been sacked soooooooo many times!! No clue whatsoever sack him now. Matej1986
  • Score: -117

6:00pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Wooter bout that! says...

Negative first half formation considering we were playing at home. Poor defending from set pieces. No threat from our own set pieces. Appalling atmosphere. Depressing afternoon. Glad I took a punt on us to get relegated a few weeks ago.
Negative first half formation considering we were playing at home. Poor defending from set pieces. No threat from our own set pieces. Appalling atmosphere. Depressing afternoon. Glad I took a punt on us to get relegated a few weeks ago. Wooter bout that!
  • Score: -111

6:01pm Sat 11 Jan 14

mickallen57 says...

Wow so disappointed to be beaten by an out of form Reading . After a dismal first half we were better in the second . Positives at least Beppe had a plan B . With no Anya and Abdi and our 6ft 5inch striker all waiting to make a show perhaps we can salvage this season.
I think we need a good win against Bristol to help us on our way.COYH
Wow so disappointed to be beaten by an out of form Reading . After a dismal first half we were better in the second . Positives at least Beppe had a plan B . With no Anya and Abdi and our 6ft 5inch striker all waiting to make a show perhaps we can salvage this season. I think we need a good win against Bristol to help us on our way.COYH mickallen57
  • Score: 2

6:03pm Sat 11 Jan 14

GarstonHorn says...

Thought we played really well when we went 4-3-3, very unlucky and could easily have won game. Fabbrini looked good as part of a front three out wide
Thought we played really well when we went 4-3-3, very unlucky and could easily have won game. Fabbrini looked good as part of a front three out wide GarstonHorn
  • Score: -3

6:05pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Watford4eva says...

Dose anyone think that we need established championship players answers on a postcard please
Dose anyone think that we need established championship players answers on a postcard please Watford4eva
  • Score: -38

6:06pm Sat 11 Jan 14

rayman01 says...

Watford-James wrote:
I thought Merkel looked great and deserved to be clapped off at the end.shame about the challenge but no question he has fight. Get behind him and we could have a good player on our hands.
Agreed that Merkel looks good, except for red card. Too many players off pace in first 30 minutes. Murray could do nothing right - think Iriney would have given us more control in first half. Everyone better in 2nd half. Fabbrini worked his socks off today. Battachio nearly got the goal. Better defensively except at set pieces. Same flaws but not as hopeless as some previous home defeats. Shocking decisions at times from the offficials and no luck. A draw would have been a fair result but you have to hit the target more frequently. Luckily have FA Cup to practice getting it right. Luv the Horns!
[quote][p][bold]Watford-James[/bold] wrote: I thought Merkel looked great and deserved to be clapped off at the end.shame about the challenge but no question he has fight. Get behind him and we could have a good player on our hands.[/p][/quote]Agreed that Merkel looks good, except for red card. Too many players off pace in first 30 minutes. Murray could do nothing right - think Iriney would have given us more control in first half. Everyone better in 2nd half. Fabbrini worked his socks off today. Battachio nearly got the goal. Better defensively except at set pieces. Same flaws but not as hopeless as some previous home defeats. Shocking decisions at times from the offficials and no luck. A draw would have been a fair result but you have to hit the target more frequently. Luckily have FA Cup to practice getting it right. Luv the Horns! rayman01
  • Score: -8

6:11pm Sat 11 Jan 14

SJM...laugh at luton says...

We have 6 or 7 individuals...we are not s team,and have not been all season,that is the problem...
We have 6 or 7 individuals...we are not s team,and have not been all season,that is the problem... SJM...laugh at luton
  • Score: -19

6:14pm Sat 11 Jan 14

dunstablehorn says...

Fabrinni much better, 2nd half we created enough to win it, deeney seemed surprised doyley passed him the ball when he whacked it way over bar, what else was doyley going to do with it, shoot? Defence was fine except for headers at set pieces, thought pudil played well, just need our guys to get head up more to move the ball on, and make the right decisions.
Fabrinni much better, 2nd half we created enough to win it, deeney seemed surprised doyley passed him the ball when he whacked it way over bar, what else was doyley going to do with it, shoot? Defence was fine except for headers at set pieces, thought pudil played well, just need our guys to get head up more to move the ball on, and make the right decisions. dunstablehorn
  • Score: -8

6:19pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Dr.Hackenbush says...

Wooter bout that! wrote:
Negative first half formation considering we were playing at home. Poor defending from set pieces. No threat from our own set pieces. Appalling atmosphere. Depressing afternoon. Glad I took a punt on us to get relegated a few weeks ago.
Luton is only 17 miles away pal. Off you go and take your pathetic excuse for support with you.
[quote][p][bold]Wooter bout that![/bold] wrote: Negative first half formation considering we were playing at home. Poor defending from set pieces. No threat from our own set pieces. Appalling atmosphere. Depressing afternoon. Glad I took a punt on us to get relegated a few weeks ago.[/p][/quote]Luton is only 17 miles away pal. Off you go and take your pathetic excuse for support with you. Dr.Hackenbush
  • Score: 12

6:24pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Man from Pinner says...

First half very poor; second half much better. Missed chances in the second half that should have been buried.
Why McGugan takes all dead ball kicks I do not understand There is no variation.
Hopefully Abdi on way back and with the new striker things will brighten up in the near future.
A major grouse is the obvious dive from McAnuff that went unpunished. He actually smiled when given the free kick.
A good win on Tuesday should help settle things down.
First half very poor; second half much better. Missed chances in the second half that should have been buried. Why McGugan takes all dead ball kicks I do not understand There is no variation. Hopefully Abdi on way back and with the new striker things will brighten up in the near future. A major grouse is the obvious dive from McAnuff that went unpunished. He actually smiled when given the free kick. A good win on Tuesday should help settle things down. Man from Pinner
  • Score: -6

6:25pm Sat 11 Jan 14

KeithMercer says...

Nahki Wells scores last minute winner on his Championship debut. £1.3 million a snip I am afraid we have missed out big time there.
Not a happy bunny tonight !
Nahki Wells scores last minute winner on his Championship debut. £1.3 million a snip I am afraid we have missed out big time there. Not a happy bunny tonight ! KeithMercer
  • Score: -27

6:26pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Ramageland says...

Reading are a hoofball outfit and it was obvious that they were going to start fast and get physical. Yet we didn't seem to want to get stuck in in the first half and just let them boss the game. Much better second half but Reading had something to hang on to and played deep. I thought Beppe was going to have us imposing ourselves from the start - it was just like Zola's last 5/6 games.

I live in Reading and have to suffer the local weirdos banging on about what a great team they are. What a sh*t Saturday!
Reading are a hoofball outfit and it was obvious that they were going to start fast and get physical. Yet we didn't seem to want to get stuck in in the first half and just let them boss the game. Much better second half but Reading had something to hang on to and played deep. I thought Beppe was going to have us imposing ourselves from the start - it was just like Zola's last 5/6 games. I live in Reading and have to suffer the local weirdos banging on about what a great team they are. What a sh*t Saturday! Ramageland
  • Score: -16

6:27pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Matej1986 says...

In 3 years we will be a non league club
In 3 years we will be a non league club Matej1986
  • Score: -103

6:30pm Sat 11 Jan 14

jasonwatford says...

I thought merkel was brought in to play as a creative midfielder instead of Abdi , We would have been better off with Ireney playing there and Mekal instead of Murray. We had enough chances and again a poor ( getting fatter Deeney) was unable to put 2 easy chances away. Fabbrini was excellent today as was Angella. At least we did have a go in the second half but as we found out last year you cant just play one half and win games.
I thought merkel was brought in to play as a creative midfielder instead of Abdi , We would have been better off with Ireney playing there and Mekal instead of Murray. We had enough chances and again a poor ( getting fatter Deeney) was unable to put 2 easy chances away. Fabbrini was excellent today as was Angella. At least we did have a go in the second half but as we found out last year you cant just play one half and win games. jasonwatford
  • Score: -15

6:31pm Sat 11 Jan 14

grahamwfc says...

Positives, Angella , Ekstrand and Pudil looked like they could play for Juventus, safely the rest looked more Fray Bentos.
Almuniah doesn't command his defence, got away with murder on two occasions not coming and free headers put over, his distribution is woeful and puts players under immediate pressure.. Bring back
Bond
Doyley woeful in distribution, thanks for all you have done Lloydy, but time to move on. A couple of seasons at Div 1 level.
Murray looked like he had been on the p* ss again.
Merkel, too early to draw a conclusion, but certainly nothing spectacular and no better than Connor Smith. Lot more to come hopefully.
Mcgugan, starting to see what frustrated Forest fans, no consistency waste of undoubted talent. TAKE HIM OFF SET PIECES FFS.
Fabbrini, sorry, don't get him. No end product, not a championship player by a country mile as too lightweight and can't get his head up.
Deeney, three gilt edge chances today and hit the target once. That from the pass of the game from Bellerin and he put a free header into keepers hands.
Nando, sooooooooooo frustrating
Bellerin, unlucky to be taken off I thought. Surely he could have played in the wide 3 or replaced Doyley. At least he can pass the bl@@dy ball.
I hate losing but I think I preferred losing GFZ way
As for the person who texted 3 counties and said Deeney and Fabbrinni were brilliant today, can some one call a nurse.
One win in 15 is relegation form, I just don't see where 25 more points are coming from.
Positives, Angella , Ekstrand and Pudil looked like they could play for Juventus, safely the rest looked more Fray Bentos. Almuniah doesn't command his defence, got away with murder on two occasions not coming and free headers put over, his distribution is woeful and puts players under immediate pressure.. Bring back Bond Doyley woeful in distribution, thanks for all you have done Lloydy, but time to move on. A couple of seasons at Div 1 level. Murray looked like he had been on the p* ss again. Merkel, too early to draw a conclusion, but certainly nothing spectacular and no better than Connor Smith. Lot more to come hopefully. Mcgugan, starting to see what frustrated Forest fans, no consistency waste of undoubted talent. TAKE HIM OFF SET PIECES FFS. Fabbrini, sorry, don't get him. No end product, not a championship player by a country mile as too lightweight and can't get his head up. Deeney, three gilt edge chances today and hit the target once. That from the pass of the game from Bellerin and he put a free header into keepers hands. Nando, sooooooooooo frustrating Bellerin, unlucky to be taken off I thought. Surely he could have played in the wide 3 or replaced Doyley. At least he can pass the bl@@dy ball. I hate losing but I think I preferred losing GFZ way As for the person who texted 3 counties and said Deeney and Fabbrinni were brilliant today, can some one call a nurse. One win in 15 is relegation form, I just don't see where 25 more points are coming from. grahamwfc
  • Score: -46

6:33pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Dr.Hackenbush says...

Matej1986 wrote:
In 3 years we will be a non league club
Why don't you go off and support one right now - there's one just up the M1 mate. You won't be missed.
[quote][p][bold]Matej1986[/bold] wrote: In 3 years we will be a non league club[/p][/quote]Why don't you go off and support one right now - there's one just up the M1 mate. You won't be missed. Dr.Hackenbush
  • Score: -2

6:34pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Frelons says...

Matej1986 wrote:
In 3 years we will be a non league club
Your team already are mate. Now be a good boy and jog on back to that scum pit up the motorway.
[quote][p][bold]Matej1986[/bold] wrote: In 3 years we will be a non league club[/p][/quote]Your team already are mate. Now be a good boy and jog on back to that scum pit up the motorway. Frelons
  • Score: -1

6:40pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Matej1986 says...

Kids banter go get a bird
Kids banter go get a bird Matej1986
  • Score: -51

6:46pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Dr.Hackenbush says...

Matej1986 wrote:
Kids banter go get a bird
I have thanks. Got a big chicken which I'm roasting tonight for dinner.
Seriously, do you really believe we are going to be a non-league team in three seasons? I think some football fans these days (kids mainly, brought up on fantasy football and the Premiership) have got absolutely no understanding of how their team plays, no sense of history, completely unrealistic expectations and a total lack of knowledge of how our own football is run, and used to be run for that matter. Now cheer up son, there's no school tomorrow for you and you can get on with your homework.
[quote][p][bold]Matej1986[/bold] wrote: Kids banter go get a bird[/p][/quote]I have thanks. Got a big chicken which I'm roasting tonight for dinner. Seriously, do you really believe we are going to be a non-league team in three seasons? I think some football fans these days (kids mainly, brought up on fantasy football and the Premiership) have got absolutely no understanding of how their team plays, no sense of history, completely unrealistic expectations and a total lack of knowledge of how our own football is run, and used to be run for that matter. Now cheer up son, there's no school tomorrow for you and you can get on with your homework. Dr.Hackenbush
  • Score: -9

6:55pm Sat 11 Jan 14

WJames says...

The positive stuff just doesn't wash anymore. We are just not good enough in any area of the pitch bar Angella, who is the only one deserving of respect. I would love McGugan and Deeney to read this and answer the question: Do you actually go home and think a) I played well today b) I am advancing my career c) my family would truthfully say I'm a very good player? They are a disgrace to the shirt - a 45 minute performance isn't good enough. We have lost 6 at home this season now, 6, SIX: embarrassing and it's become a habit. Working hard during the week to enjoy seeing your team work their socks off used to be enjoyment but now we see coasters like McGugan and Deeney earning huge sums when producing six home defeats. Same old football: got the contract, got the bravado, got absolutely no brains at all and not fit to lace the shoes of most of the hard workers in the crowd. Wooter - absolutely spot on about the atmosphere (fair play to the singing section who try though). The problem is that we are not a 'lad' club and never will be particularly passionate as a result. Far, far, far too many kids, mums and friends of friends at the embarrassingly named 'Family Club' these days to ever change it. Overall, shambolic bar Angella and Sannino's possible tactical intelligence in the second half. However, the latter will have his hands tied whilst continually having to work with the likes of Deeney and McGugan who lack any sort of professional pride.
The positive stuff just doesn't wash anymore. We are just not good enough in any area of the pitch bar Angella, who is the only one deserving of respect. I would love McGugan and Deeney to read this and answer the question: Do you actually go home and think a) I played well today b) I am advancing my career c) my family would truthfully say I'm a very good player? They are a disgrace to the shirt - a 45 minute performance isn't good enough. We have lost 6 at home this season now, 6, SIX: embarrassing and it's become a habit. Working hard during the week to enjoy seeing your team work their socks off used to be enjoyment but now we see coasters like McGugan and Deeney earning huge sums when producing six home defeats. Same old football: got the contract, got the bravado, got absolutely no brains at all and not fit to lace the shoes of most of the hard workers in the crowd. Wooter - absolutely spot on about the atmosphere (fair play to the singing section who try though). The problem is that we are not a 'lad' club and never will be particularly passionate as a result. Far, far, far too many kids, mums and friends of friends at the embarrassingly named 'Family Club' these days to ever change it. Overall, shambolic bar Angella and Sannino's possible tactical intelligence in the second half. However, the latter will have his hands tied whilst continually having to work with the likes of Deeney and McGugan who lack any sort of professional pride. WJames
  • Score: -26

6:56pm Sat 11 Jan 14

SuperHorn says...

I thought Merkel looked ok but what I can't understand is why he was played as the 'holding-midfielder'
. It's a shame that Thorne isn't going to come back really as we really do need someone to fill in that spot that can both pass AND defend
I thought Merkel looked ok but what I can't understand is why he was played as the 'holding-midfielder' . It's a shame that Thorne isn't going to come back really as we really do need someone to fill in that spot that can both pass AND defend SuperHorn
  • Score: -20

7:26pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Boosey says...

I am a McGugan basher but thought I would watch closely today, what a **** waste of space, the worst player ever to wear a watford shirt.
Merkel too clever for everyone else, for **** sake sort your lifes out!
I am a McGugan basher but thought I would watch closely today, what a **** waste of space, the worst player ever to wear a watford shirt. Merkel too clever for everyone else, for **** sake sort your lifes out! Boosey
  • Score: -30

7:37pm Sat 11 Jan 14

demerit says...

Matej1986 wrote:
In 3 years we will be a non league club
Do you suffer from depression by any chance?
[quote][p][bold]Matej1986[/bold] wrote: In 3 years we will be a non league club[/p][/quote]Do you suffer from depression by any chance? demerit
  • Score: -15

7:43pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Cuetip says...

'Beaten Hornets left to count cost of missed chances' sums up the game.
'Beaten Hornets left to count cost of missed chances' sums up the game. Cuetip
  • Score: -3

8:03pm Sat 11 Jan 14

exeterhornet says...

Just got back. In all honesty, what is different from under Zola? More possession but f... All in terms of ball in net. I am writing this season off which is a pity because compared to last year it is so much weaker. Can't help thinking we f....Ed up big time by not taking our chance last year. So very frustrating.
Just got back. In all honesty, what is different from under Zola? More possession but f... All in terms of ball in net. I am writing this season off which is a pity because compared to last year it is so much weaker. Can't help thinking we f....Ed up big time by not taking our chance last year. So very frustrating. exeterhornet
  • Score: -1

8:08pm Sat 11 Jan 14

exeterhornet says...

Oh, and I forgot. deeney pants, and the adopted kraut, big time Charlie.
Oh, and I forgot. deeney pants, and the adopted kraut, big time Charlie. exeterhornet
  • Score: -25

8:21pm Sat 11 Jan 14

stewbyhorn says...

A lot of realistic comments on here and the usual morons spouting crap, it appears so disappointing because of how well we done last season. I'm in year 34 now so I do understand what dissapointment means but it is what it is and lets hope we get that striker we desperately need to help Troy push on up the league
A lot of realistic comments on here and the usual morons spouting crap, it appears so disappointing because of how well we done last season. I'm in year 34 now so I do understand what dissapointment means but it is what it is and lets hope we get that striker we desperately need to help Troy push on up the league stewbyhorn
  • Score: -4

8:39pm Sat 11 Jan 14

SCMW57 says...

Have supported Watford since late 60's. This club from top to bottom does not represent what I have been wedded to. The DNA has been ripped out. We are just a feeder club who will sell players for £'s and buy players for nothing.
Shame on previous Boards for putting us in this position.
Have supported Watford since late 60's. This club from top to bottom does not represent what I have been wedded to. The DNA has been ripped out. We are just a feeder club who will sell players for £'s and buy players for nothing. Shame on previous Boards for putting us in this position. SCMW57
  • Score: -22

8:54pm Sat 11 Jan 14

tommy gunn says...

Those 50 odd points for safety seem a long way off at the moment. We can only hope Abdi can play some part in this season and the new striker is able to find some sort of form quickly. Sometimes you know you have to spend to get really good Championship players ,.
Those 50 odd points for safety seem a long way off at the moment. We can only hope Abdi can play some part in this season and the new striker is able to find some sort of form quickly. Sometimes you know you have to spend to get really good Championship players ,. tommy gunn
  • Score: -1

8:58pm Sat 11 Jan 14

francowatford says...

jasonwatford wrote:
I thought merkel was brought in to play as a creative midfielder instead of Abdi , We would have been better off with Ireney playing there and Mekal instead of Murray. We had enough chances and again a poor ( getting fatter Deeney) was unable to put 2 easy chances away. Fabbrini was excellent today as was Angella. At least we did have a go in the second half but as we found out last year you cant just play one half and win games.
Merkel was thrown into the midfield of a fast hard championship game. It was a baptism of fire for him
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: I thought merkel was brought in to play as a creative midfielder instead of Abdi , We would have been better off with Ireney playing there and Mekal instead of Murray. We had enough chances and again a poor ( getting fatter Deeney) was unable to put 2 easy chances away. Fabbrini was excellent today as was Angella. At least we did have a go in the second half but as we found out last year you cant just play one half and win games.[/p][/quote]Merkel was thrown into the midfield of a fast hard championship game. It was a baptism of fire for him francowatford
  • Score: -3

8:58pm Sat 11 Jan 14

francowatford says...

jasonwatford wrote:
I thought merkel was brought in to play as a creative midfielder instead of Abdi , We would have been better off with Ireney playing there and Mekal instead of Murray. We had enough chances and again a poor ( getting fatter Deeney) was unable to put 2 easy chances away. Fabbrini was excellent today as was Angella. At least we did have a go in the second half but as we found out last year you cant just play one half and win games.
Merkel was thrown into the midfield of a fast hard championship game. It was a baptism of fire for him
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: I thought merkel was brought in to play as a creative midfielder instead of Abdi , We would have been better off with Ireney playing there and Mekal instead of Murray. We had enough chances and again a poor ( getting fatter Deeney) was unable to put 2 easy chances away. Fabbrini was excellent today as was Angella. At least we did have a go in the second half but as we found out last year you cant just play one half and win games.[/p][/quote]Merkel was thrown into the midfield of a fast hard championship game. It was a baptism of fire for him francowatford
  • Score: -6

9:13pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Andrew1963 says...

Angela & Ekstrand were the only players who showed their potential today. Pudil was ok. I thought Merkel looked off the pace, (not fully match fit), I would have thought the replay against Bristol City would have been a better option to start him. I would have started with Iriney. Our finishing was woeful. After his booking Foresteri gave up. Fabbrini is the new Wooter, skill but no end product in terms of goals. Our corners were poor, they scored from their first, ours were catching practice for their keeper. I know we miss Abdi, but we also miss Hogg. Hopefully 52 points by Easter, but not sure that's certain.
Angela & Ekstrand were the only players who showed their potential today. Pudil was ok. I thought Merkel looked off the pace, (not fully match fit), I would have thought the replay against Bristol City would have been a better option to start him. I would have started with Iriney. Our finishing was woeful. After his booking Foresteri gave up. Fabbrini is the new Wooter, skill but no end product in terms of goals. Our corners were poor, they scored from their first, ours were catching practice for their keeper. I know we miss Abdi, but we also miss Hogg. Hopefully 52 points by Easter, but not sure that's certain. Andrew1963
  • Score: -5

9:22pm Sat 11 Jan 14

WessexLad says...

Sometimes it's just not your day - it happens to the best. If we'd played exactly the same game and won 6-1 everyone would be drooling. Plenty of attacking flair, but no end product: Deeney too isolated; Fabbrini too intricate; Merkel is not a holding defender. Bellarin and Pudil performed well in both wing-back roles.

Let's hope we score first v Bristol, and then fill our shooting boots. Come on all you fans who weren't planning to attend. This is the time to get behind your team. COYH!
Sometimes it's just not your day - it happens to the best. If we'd played exactly the same game and won 6-1 everyone would be drooling. Plenty of attacking flair, but no end product: Deeney too isolated; Fabbrini too intricate; Merkel is not a holding defender. Bellarin and Pudil performed well in both wing-back roles. Let's hope we score first v Bristol, and then fill our shooting boots. Come on all you fans who weren't planning to attend. This is the time to get behind your team. COYH! WessexLad
  • Score: -2

9:41pm Sat 11 Jan 14

luther67 says...

Matej1986 wrote:
In 3 years we will be a non league club
Ridiculous.
[quote][p][bold]Matej1986[/bold] wrote: In 3 years we will be a non league club[/p][/quote]Ridiculous. luther67
  • Score: 4

9:46pm Sat 11 Jan 14

matey_from_brighton says...

Matej1986 wrote:
In 3 years we will be a non league club
might get to play your lot if that is the case.
[quote][p][bold]Matej1986[/bold] wrote: In 3 years we will be a non league club[/p][/quote]might get to play your lot if that is the case. matey_from_brighton
  • Score: -2

9:48pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Harry's Bar says...

Bottom line is we can't shoot straight. The worst offender is McGugan, but too many others are not far behind him. Defence looks much better with Angella And Ekstrand playing well. Merkel I thought grew into the game and I think will become a regular this season. Still miss Abdi to drive us forward, particularly in the first half. Terrible miss by Forestieri when he only had to hit the target, but then hitting the target is not really our strong point.
Bottom line is we can't shoot straight. The worst offender is McGugan, but too many others are not far behind him. Defence looks much better with Angella And Ekstrand playing well. Merkel I thought grew into the game and I think will become a regular this season. Still miss Abdi to drive us forward, particularly in the first half. Terrible miss by Forestieri when he only had to hit the target, but then hitting the target is not really our strong point. Harry's Bar
  • Score: -3

9:50pm Sat 11 Jan 14

bigmeuprudeboy says...

Atmosphere was a disgrace, very very poor.

Sannino must wonder why he has come, he said in his first interview that he loved the passion on the English fans, he picked the wrong club.
Atmosphere was a disgrace, very very poor. Sannino must wonder why he has come, he said in his first interview that he loved the passion on the English fans, he picked the wrong club. bigmeuprudeboy
  • Score: -15

9:54pm Sat 11 Jan 14

francowatford says...

bigmeuprudeboy wrote:
Atmosphere was a disgrace, very very poor.

Sannino must wonder why he has come, he said in his first interview that he loved the passion on the English fans, he picked the wrong club.
Secondhalf atmosphere was pretty good I thought
[quote][p][bold]bigmeuprudeboy[/bold] wrote: Atmosphere was a disgrace, very very poor. Sannino must wonder why he has come, he said in his first interview that he loved the passion on the English fans, he picked the wrong club.[/p][/quote]Secondhalf atmosphere was pretty good I thought francowatford
  • Score: -7

9:54pm Sat 11 Jan 14

francowatford says...

bigmeuprudeboy wrote:
Atmosphere was a disgrace, very very poor.

Sannino must wonder why he has come, he said in his first interview that he loved the passion on the English fans, he picked the wrong club.
Secondhalf atmosphere was pretty good I thought
[quote][p][bold]bigmeuprudeboy[/bold] wrote: Atmosphere was a disgrace, very very poor. Sannino must wonder why he has come, he said in his first interview that he loved the passion on the English fans, he picked the wrong club.[/p][/quote]Secondhalf atmosphere was pretty good I thought francowatford
  • Score: -9

9:58pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Hornet Cornet says...

KeithMercer wrote:
Nahki Wells scores last minute winner on his Championship debut. £1.3 million a snip I am afraid we have missed out big time there.
Not a happy bunny tonight !
Couldn't agree more and also dont know why youve got negatives
[quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: Nahki Wells scores last minute winner on his Championship debut. £1.3 million a snip I am afraid we have missed out big time there. Not a happy bunny tonight ![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more and also dont know why youve got negatives Hornet Cornet
  • Score: -5

10:19pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Stoney77 says...

An overall feeling of disappointment and frustration. I tell you what though, it's easier to support a team who are underdogs and tipped for relegation than support a team with expectation of success!! Not that I would change a thing of course, but defeats and poor performances hurt a lot more when you are expecting more. An overall feeling of frustration this season especially the last 3 months. How many times have we not scored at home recently? 6 from the last 7? That really is shocking statistics! I would like to see us drop the 3-5-2 formation, especially if we're not going to allow the wing backs to get forward which Beppe seems to instruct. Start 4 at the back against BC - let's get ourselves on the front foot from the off, play Deeney and Fessi up front with Fab behind roaming.
Having said that we didn't deserve to lose today, a bit like the 3-3 draw at their place earlier in the season it was a game of 2 halves but we just couldn't hit that cows **** with our banjo.
Angella was class today though and I thought Fabrrini was much improved although most of his best work is done in the middle of the pitch rather than in/near the opposition box. I know there are a lot of McGugan bashers out there and although I do find him frustrating he did create a few good opportunities today. Rather than brilliant one match and bad the next, it really is brilliant one minute and awful the next and the fact he **** out of every 50/50 really irks me.
Not sure Merkels red was a straight red, definite second yellow, but it was over zealousness and eagerness to try and win the ball back in the dying seconds rather than dirty. Hopefully can appeal and just get a 1 match ban; and What the hell was the ref doing booking FF for diving when 2 men took him out, and why would you give a corner but then blow the whistle before we've taken it? Clueless officiating.
Finally, come back Abdi. We miss you baaaaaaad.
An overall feeling of disappointment and frustration. I tell you what though, it's easier to support a team who are underdogs and tipped for relegation than support a team with expectation of success!! Not that I would change a thing of course, but defeats and poor performances hurt a lot more when you are expecting more. An overall feeling of frustration this season especially the last 3 months. How many times have we not scored at home recently? 6 from the last 7? That really is shocking statistics! I would like to see us drop the 3-5-2 formation, especially if we're not going to allow the wing backs to get forward which Beppe seems to instruct. Start 4 at the back against BC - let's get ourselves on the front foot from the off, play Deeney and Fessi up front with Fab behind roaming. Having said that we didn't deserve to lose today, a bit like the 3-3 draw at their place earlier in the season it was a game of 2 halves but we just couldn't hit that cows **** with our banjo. Angella was class today though and I thought Fabrrini was much improved although most of his best work is done in the middle of the pitch rather than in/near the opposition box. I know there are a lot of McGugan bashers out there and although I do find him frustrating he did create a few good opportunities today. Rather than brilliant one match and bad the next, it really is brilliant one minute and awful the next and the fact he **** out of every 50/50 really irks me. Not sure Merkels red was a straight red, definite second yellow, but it was over zealousness and eagerness to try and win the ball back in the dying seconds rather than dirty. Hopefully can appeal and just get a 1 match ban; and What the hell was the ref doing booking FF for diving when 2 men took him out, and why would you give a corner but then blow the whistle before we've taken it? Clueless officiating. Finally, come back Abdi. We miss you baaaaaaad. Stoney77
  • Score: 3

10:21pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Stoney77 says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
KeithMercer wrote:
Nahki Wells scores last minute winner on his Championship debut. £1.3 million a snip I am afraid we have missed out big time there.
Not a happy bunny tonight !
Couldn't agree more and also dont know why youve got negatives
Everybody's comments have negative scores, something wrong with the site I guess. Has happened a few times before.....
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: Nahki Wells scores last minute winner on his Championship debut. £1.3 million a snip I am afraid we have missed out big time there. Not a happy bunny tonight ![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more and also dont know why youve got negatives[/p][/quote]Everybody's comments have negative scores, something wrong with the site I guess. Has happened a few times before..... Stoney77
  • Score: -12

10:41pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Hornankey says...

SCMW57 wrote:
Have supported Watford since late 60's. This club from top to bottom does not represent what I have been wedded to. The DNA has been ripped out. We are just a feeder club who will sell players for £'s and buy players for nothing.
Shame on previous Boards for putting us in this position.
And me.......and unfortunately I think that you may be correct. It will probably need another couple of seasons to be proved or disproved. I do not see the hunger for the Premiership. The club will always be subsidiary to Udinese in the mind of the owner. We will have the younger and surplus players - make money out of trading players but not invest in quality for the club itself.
[quote][p][bold]SCMW57[/bold] wrote: Have supported Watford since late 60's. This club from top to bottom does not represent what I have been wedded to. The DNA has been ripped out. We are just a feeder club who will sell players for £'s and buy players for nothing. Shame on previous Boards for putting us in this position.[/p][/quote]And me.......and unfortunately I think that you may be correct. It will probably need another couple of seasons to be proved or disproved. I do not see the hunger for the Premiership. The club will always be subsidiary to Udinese in the mind of the owner. We will have the younger and surplus players - make money out of trading players but not invest in quality for the club itself. Hornankey
  • Score: -10

11:00pm Sat 11 Jan 14

matey_from_brighton says...

Hornankey wrote:
SCMW57 wrote:
Have supported Watford since late 60's. This club from top to bottom does not represent what I have been wedded to. The DNA has been ripped out. We are just a feeder club who will sell players for £'s and buy players for nothing.
Shame on previous Boards for putting us in this position.
And me.......and unfortunately I think that you may be correct. It will probably need another couple of seasons to be proved or disproved. I do not see the hunger for the Premiership. The club will always be subsidiary to Udinese in the mind of the owner. We will have the younger and surplus players - make money out of trading players but not invest in quality for the club itself.
you are right that time will tell, but make no mistake if we still had either of the last two shisters Bassini and Ashcroft we would be in a LOT worse position and this should not be forgotten. We owe massive thanks to Dyche for keeping us in the Championship in spite of Bassini. We would all love to see a born and bred Watford owner in charge, but with so much money in football now that will not be the case for any clubs again at the higher levels. The best stories in football have long since been written and if you were lucky enough to be supporting us when we finished 2nd in this country's highest league be thankful you were there to see it, it wont happen again for clubs of our size (and much bigger than us).
[quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SCMW57[/bold] wrote: Have supported Watford since late 60's. This club from top to bottom does not represent what I have been wedded to. The DNA has been ripped out. We are just a feeder club who will sell players for £'s and buy players for nothing. Shame on previous Boards for putting us in this position.[/p][/quote]And me.......and unfortunately I think that you may be correct. It will probably need another couple of seasons to be proved or disproved. I do not see the hunger for the Premiership. The club will always be subsidiary to Udinese in the mind of the owner. We will have the younger and surplus players - make money out of trading players but not invest in quality for the club itself.[/p][/quote]you are right that time will tell, but make no mistake if we still had either of the last two shisters Bassini and Ashcroft we would be in a LOT worse position and this should not be forgotten. We owe massive thanks to Dyche for keeping us in the Championship in spite of Bassini. We would all love to see a born and bred Watford owner in charge, but with so much money in football now that will not be the case for any clubs again at the higher levels. The best stories in football have long since been written and if you were lucky enough to be supporting us when we finished 2nd in this country's highest league be thankful you were there to see it, it wont happen again for clubs of our size (and much bigger than us). matey_from_brighton
  • Score: 7

11:04pm Sat 11 Jan 14

abbotshornet says...

Watford4eva wrote:
Dose anyone think that we need established championship players answers on a postcard please
We have seen what most of these players can do, you don't suddenly become a bad player, I feel confident the new boss will get there. COYGB's
[quote][p][bold]Watford4eva[/bold] wrote: Dose anyone think that we need established championship players answers on a postcard please[/p][/quote]We have seen what most of these players can do, you don't suddenly become a bad player, I feel confident the new boss will get there. COYGB's abbotshornet
  • Score: 3

11:22pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Vet_kills_puppy says...

Stoney77

When I'm on an 'armchair supporter' roll I always hope that one of your posts will come along soon. They often give me hope and indeed thank you for an excellent post tonight.

What worries me about myself is that an undercurrent of depression is creeping in. This has never happened before to this Northern exile of 30 years+ standing.

Where is the matchday hero, win, lose or draw, going to come from in these Pozzo-related days?

Death by Sky Sports News is ruining too many Saturdays.



Depression
Stoney77 When I'm on an 'armchair supporter' roll I always hope that one of your posts will come along soon. They often give me hope and indeed thank you for an excellent post tonight. What worries me about myself is that an undercurrent of depression is creeping in. This has never happened before to this Northern exile of 30 years+ standing. Where is the matchday hero, win, lose or draw, going to come from in these Pozzo-related days? Death by Sky Sports News is ruining too many Saturdays. Depression Vet_kills_puppy
  • Score: -6

11:23pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Boosey says...

I get minus points for previous post on McGugan, so can someone come up with a positive from todays display why he should start the next game?
(Apart from two good crosses in 90 minutes)
I get minus points for previous post on McGugan, so can someone come up with a positive from todays display why he should start the next game? (Apart from two good crosses in 90 minutes) Boosey
  • Score: 2

11:41pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Stoney77 says...

I've just been cheered up no end having watched Jason Puncheons penalty miss for Palace. Absolute Quality!!!!
I've just been cheered up no end having watched Jason Puncheons penalty miss for Palace. Absolute Quality!!!! Stoney77
  • Score: -3

12:17am Sun 12 Jan 14

mkgoldenboys says...

Normal Service has been Resumed. The rose tinted glasses fraternity seem a bit quieter than usual,not even a clean sheet to wax lyrical about. We are just as likely to be in a relegation scrap as sniffing around the playoff places.
Normal Service has been Resumed. The rose tinted glasses fraternity seem a bit quieter than usual,not even a clean sheet to wax lyrical about. We are just as likely to be in a relegation scrap as sniffing around the playoff places. mkgoldenboys
  • Score: -25

12:21am Sun 12 Jan 14

jonblunden says...

Rubbish
Rubbish jonblunden
  • Score: -10

2:47am Sun 12 Jan 14

bigmeuprudeboy says...

mkgoldenboys wrote:
Normal Service has been Resumed. The rose tinted glasses fraternity seem a bit quieter than usual,not even a clean sheet to wax lyrical about. We are just as likely to be in a relegation scrap as sniffing around the playoff places.
I wish I supported MK like you do, with its massive unfinished stadium and the 6k support and the 4k free tickets every week!
Must be great
[quote][p][bold]mkgoldenboys[/bold] wrote: Normal Service has been Resumed. The rose tinted glasses fraternity seem a bit quieter than usual,not even a clean sheet to wax lyrical about. We are just as likely to be in a relegation scrap as sniffing around the playoff places.[/p][/quote]I wish I supported MK like you do, with its massive unfinished stadium and the 6k support and the 4k free tickets every week! Must be great bigmeuprudeboy
  • Score: 5

9:47am Sun 12 Jan 14

jonblunden says...

To be honest if I owned watford udinese and Granada watford would be the one with most potential . All the money is in the premier league we are just outside London . Money I'm the area attendences are up . Season tickets are sold out the ground looks packed yet the team plays **** .? Where is the most lucrative Spain Italy or England I'm terms of football ?
My only gripe is that we allowed a goalscorer to warm a bench whilst still being contracted to our owners . Vydra would have at least 15 goals this season and we would not be ruing missed chances . So whilst I'm
Glad bas who by the way spent 500 k on the red and yellow shithole has gone I'm sceptical of where we are aiming . Heart says its all good 30 years a hornet says breathe deep
To be honest if I owned watford udinese and Granada watford would be the one with most potential . All the money is in the premier league we are just outside London . Money I'm the area attendences are up . Season tickets are sold out the ground looks packed yet the team plays **** .? Where is the most lucrative Spain Italy or England I'm terms of football ? My only gripe is that we allowed a goalscorer to warm a bench whilst still being contracted to our owners . Vydra would have at least 15 goals this season and we would not be ruing missed chances . So whilst I'm Glad bas who by the way spent 500 k on the red and yellow shithole has gone I'm sceptical of where we are aiming . Heart says its all good 30 years a hornet says breathe deep jonblunden
  • Score: 1

10:10am Sun 12 Jan 14

VOReason says...

Hornankey wrote:
SCMW57 wrote:
Have supported Watford since late 60's. This club from top to bottom does not represent what I have been wedded to. The DNA has been ripped out. We are just a feeder club who will sell players for £'s and buy players for nothing.
Shame on previous Boards for putting us in this position.
And me.......and unfortunately I think that you may be correct. It will probably need another couple of seasons to be proved or disproved. I do not see the hunger for the Premiership. The club will always be subsidiary to Udinese in the mind of the owner. We will have the younger and surplus players - make money out of trading players but not invest in quality for the club itself.
So far what have we fed exactly? Every transfer from udinese/granada have been in our favour.

Outgoing sales have been at the right price: assombolonga

Or at players request: Hogg and eustace

Or players never going to play in our first team regularly: Thompson.

Name a chairman in our history who has turned down the right offer for a player, and we knew that about the pozzos when we all begged them to save us from bazza

The majority of our fans are so fickle!!!!

The pozzos underestimated the championship from Xmas last year, they did not replace vydra, got unlucky with abdi, and refused to pay chalobah's astronomical wages.

They will want to finish top 6, hopefully remaining additions will satisfy the doubters and make this a reality
[quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SCMW57[/bold] wrote: Have supported Watford since late 60's. This club from top to bottom does not represent what I have been wedded to. The DNA has been ripped out. We are just a feeder club who will sell players for £'s and buy players for nothing. Shame on previous Boards for putting us in this position.[/p][/quote]And me.......and unfortunately I think that you may be correct. It will probably need another couple of seasons to be proved or disproved. I do not see the hunger for the Premiership. The club will always be subsidiary to Udinese in the mind of the owner. We will have the younger and surplus players - make money out of trading players but not invest in quality for the club itself.[/p][/quote]So far what have we fed exactly? Every transfer from udinese/granada have been in our favour. Outgoing sales have been at the right price: assombolonga Or at players request: Hogg and eustace Or players never going to play in our first team regularly: Thompson. Name a chairman in our history who has turned down the right offer for a player, and we knew that about the pozzos when we all begged them to save us from bazza The majority of our fans are so fickle!!!! The pozzos underestimated the championship from Xmas last year, they did not replace vydra, got unlucky with abdi, and refused to pay chalobah's astronomical wages. They will want to finish top 6, hopefully remaining additions will satisfy the doubters and make this a reality VOReason
  • Score: 19

10:47am Sun 12 Jan 14

longcliffe says...

I was assured at the start of the season that Watford were a shoe-in for the Premier. It seems they have more chance of returning to your rightful home in League One.
Bring back Adey?
I was assured at the start of the season that Watford were a shoe-in for the Premier. It seems they have more chance of returning to your rightful home in League One. Bring back Adey? longcliffe
  • Score: -21

12:37pm Sun 12 Jan 14

poole-horn says...

longcliffe wrote:
I was assured at the start of the season that Watford were a shoe-in for the Premier. It seems they have more chance of returning to your rightful home in League One. Bring back Adey?
Do they not have a LTFC forum or is it just that not enough of you can read and write English?
[quote][p][bold]longcliffe[/bold] wrote: I was assured at the start of the season that Watford were a shoe-in for the Premier. It seems they have more chance of returning to your rightful home in League One. Bring back Adey?[/p][/quote]Do they not have a LTFC forum or is it just that not enough of you can read and write English? poole-horn
  • Score: 8

1:06pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Harry's Bar says...

VOReason wrote:
Hornankey wrote:
SCMW57 wrote:
Have supported Watford since late 60's. This club from top to bottom does not represent what I have been wedded to. The DNA has been ripped out. We are just a feeder club who will sell players for £'s and buy players for nothing.
Shame on previous Boards for putting us in this position.
And me.......and unfortunately I think that you may be correct. It will probably need another couple of seasons to be proved or disproved. I do not see the hunger for the Premiership. The club will always be subsidiary to Udinese in the mind of the owner. We will have the younger and surplus players - make money out of trading players but not invest in quality for the club itself.
So far what have we fed exactly? Every transfer from udinese/granada have been in our favour.

Outgoing sales have been at the right price: assombolonga

Or at players request: Hogg and eustace

Or players never going to play in our first team regularly: Thompson.

Name a chairman in our history who has turned down the right offer for a player, and we knew that about the pozzos when we all begged them to save us from bazza

The majority of our fans are so fickle!!!!

The pozzos underestimated the championship from Xmas last year, they did not replace vydra, got unlucky with abdi, and refused to pay chalobah's astronomical wages.

They will want to finish top 6, hopefully remaining additions will satisfy the doubters and make this a reality
Agree with all this. People turning on the Pozzo's,and talking about relegation are out of order. What we need is for this "enforcer" and pacey striker to be the real deal and the play offs will become a possibility If Pozzo releases cash for purchases it could be last chance saloon for Nani. No more McGugan's, Iriney's, Acuna's or Mceachran's, he has to deliver this time.
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SCMW57[/bold] wrote: Have supported Watford since late 60's. This club from top to bottom does not represent what I have been wedded to. The DNA has been ripped out. We are just a feeder club who will sell players for £'s and buy players for nothing. Shame on previous Boards for putting us in this position.[/p][/quote]And me.......and unfortunately I think that you may be correct. It will probably need another couple of seasons to be proved or disproved. I do not see the hunger for the Premiership. The club will always be subsidiary to Udinese in the mind of the owner. We will have the younger and surplus players - make money out of trading players but not invest in quality for the club itself.[/p][/quote]So far what have we fed exactly? Every transfer from udinese/granada have been in our favour. Outgoing sales have been at the right price: assombolonga Or at players request: Hogg and eustace Or players never going to play in our first team regularly: Thompson. Name a chairman in our history who has turned down the right offer for a player, and we knew that about the pozzos when we all begged them to save us from bazza The majority of our fans are so fickle!!!! The pozzos underestimated the championship from Xmas last year, they did not replace vydra, got unlucky with abdi, and refused to pay chalobah's astronomical wages. They will want to finish top 6, hopefully remaining additions will satisfy the doubters and make this a reality[/p][/quote]Agree with all this. People turning on the Pozzo's,and talking about relegation are out of order. What we need is for this "enforcer" and pacey striker to be the real deal and the play offs will become a possibility If Pozzo releases cash for purchases it could be last chance saloon for Nani. No more McGugan's, Iriney's, Acuna's or Mceachran's, he has to deliver this time. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 2

1:08pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Chris the Vic says...

4 gold plated chances fell in under 20 minutes to our three strikers who failed to get on target and trouble their goalie.

Merkel red carded when it should have been a second yellow, then Blackman jumped in and only gets a yellow. mcAnuff and Gunter collide but without a WFC player in contact win a free kick. The only team worse than the horns strike force were the men in black
4 gold plated chances fell in under 20 minutes to our three strikers who failed to get on target and trouble their goalie. Merkel red carded when it should have been a second yellow, then Blackman jumped in and only gets a yellow. mcAnuff and Gunter collide but without a WFC player in contact win a free kick. The only team worse than the horns strike force were the men in black Chris the Vic
  • Score: 3

2:02pm Sun 12 Jan 14

mkgoldenboys says...

bigmeuprudeboy wrote:
mkgoldenboys wrote:
Normal Service has been Resumed. The rose tinted glasses fraternity seem a bit quieter than usual,not even a clean sheet to wax lyrical about. We are just as likely to be in a relegation scrap as sniffing around the playoff places.
I wish I supported MK like you do, with its massive unfinished stadium and the 6k support and the 4k free tickets every week!
Must be great
Why is it that if you are not happy with the rubbish that is being served up and voice your opinion,you are shouted down. Looking for the smallest of positives from some of these performances is getting harder and harder,yet to point this out is treason. As for being a Don's fan,if I was,why would I care what was happening at Watford.
[quote][p][bold]bigmeuprudeboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mkgoldenboys[/bold] wrote: Normal Service has been Resumed. The rose tinted glasses fraternity seem a bit quieter than usual,not even a clean sheet to wax lyrical about. We are just as likely to be in a relegation scrap as sniffing around the playoff places.[/p][/quote]I wish I supported MK like you do, with its massive unfinished stadium and the 6k support and the 4k free tickets every week! Must be great[/p][/quote]Why is it that if you are not happy with the rubbish that is being served up and voice your opinion,you are shouted down. Looking for the smallest of positives from some of these performances is getting harder and harder,yet to point this out is treason. As for being a Don's fan,if I was,why would I care what was happening at Watford. mkgoldenboys
  • Score: -5

4:04pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Daybah says...

Boosey wrote:
I get minus points for previous post on McGugan, so can someone come up with a positive from todays display why he should start the next game?
(Apart from two good crosses in 90 minutes)
You are spot on re McGugan. 2 really good crosses; some appalling dead ball kicks; and the usual strolling about. But that's what we will always get with him. Moments of brilliance or many games of frustration - as all the Forest fans warned us.
Not enough overall effort which is why, despite undoubted talent, he'll never play Prem football.
Question is have we got any one better?
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: I get minus points for previous post on McGugan, so can someone come up with a positive from todays display why he should start the next game? (Apart from two good crosses in 90 minutes)[/p][/quote]You are spot on re McGugan. 2 really good crosses; some appalling dead ball kicks; and the usual strolling about. But that's what we will always get with him. Moments of brilliance or many games of frustration - as all the Forest fans warned us. Not enough overall effort which is why, despite undoubted talent, he'll never play Prem football. Question is have we got any one better? Daybah
  • Score: -4

4:19pm Sun 12 Jan 14

coldplay says...

mkgoldenboys wrote:
bigmeuprudeboy wrote:
mkgoldenboys wrote:
Normal Service has been Resumed. The rose tinted glasses fraternity seem a bit quieter than usual,not even a clean sheet to wax lyrical about. We are just as likely to be in a relegation scrap as sniffing around the playoff places.
I wish I supported MK like you do, with its massive unfinished stadium and the 6k support and the 4k free tickets every week!
Must be great
Why is it that if you are not happy with the rubbish that is being served up and voice your opinion,you are shouted down. Looking for the smallest of positives from some of these performances is getting harder and harder,yet to point this out is treason. As for being a Don's fan,if I was,why would I care what was happening at Watford.
MK, I think that is probably the perceived negative attitude that comes across in your posts that irritates people, that are, like you, upset with performances and want their club to do well. The use of the term rose tinted glasses, like happy clappers, can be considered sniping and will be perceived by some as a criticism of their unconditional support for their club. Maybe if you were to post something other than the same old couple of negative lines you wouldn't evoke the responses that you get...just a thought and always remembering that you, me and everyone else is entitled to their opinion. There is plenty that needs fixing on the pitch but it certainly ain't doom and gloom and is miles away from the whack it up there and let's see what happens days.
[quote][p][bold]mkgoldenboys[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigmeuprudeboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mkgoldenboys[/bold] wrote: Normal Service has been Resumed. The rose tinted glasses fraternity seem a bit quieter than usual,not even a clean sheet to wax lyrical about. We are just as likely to be in a relegation scrap as sniffing around the playoff places.[/p][/quote]I wish I supported MK like you do, with its massive unfinished stadium and the 6k support and the 4k free tickets every week! Must be great[/p][/quote]Why is it that if you are not happy with the rubbish that is being served up and voice your opinion,you are shouted down. Looking for the smallest of positives from some of these performances is getting harder and harder,yet to point this out is treason. As for being a Don's fan,if I was,why would I care what was happening at Watford.[/p][/quote]MK, I think that is probably the perceived negative attitude that comes across in your posts that irritates people, that are, like you, upset with performances and want their club to do well. The use of the term rose tinted glasses, like happy clappers, can be considered sniping and will be perceived by some as a criticism of their unconditional support for their club. Maybe if you were to post something other than the same old couple of negative lines you wouldn't evoke the responses that you get...just a thought and always remembering that you, me and everyone else is entitled to their opinion. There is plenty that needs fixing on the pitch but it certainly ain't doom and gloom and is miles away from the whack it up there and let's see what happens days. coldplay
  • Score: 5

6:19pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Stoney77 says...

coldplay wrote:
mkgoldenboys wrote:
bigmeuprudeboy wrote:
mkgoldenboys wrote:
Normal Service has been Resumed. The rose tinted glasses fraternity seem a bit quieter than usual,not even a clean sheet to wax lyrical about. We are just as likely to be in a relegation scrap as sniffing around the playoff places.
I wish I supported MK like you do, with its massive unfinished stadium and the 6k support and the 4k free tickets every week!
Must be great
Why is it that if you are not happy with the rubbish that is being served up and voice your opinion,you are shouted down. Looking for the smallest of positives from some of these performances is getting harder and harder,yet to point this out is treason. As for being a Don's fan,if I was,why would I care what was happening at Watford.
MK, I think that is probably the perceived negative attitude that comes across in your posts that irritates people, that are, like you, upset with performances and want their club to do well. The use of the term rose tinted glasses, like happy clappers, can be considered sniping and will be perceived by some as a criticism of their unconditional support for their club. Maybe if you were to post something other than the same old couple of negative lines you wouldn't evoke the responses that you get...just a thought and always remembering that you, me and everyone else is entitled to their opinion. There is plenty that needs fixing on the pitch but it certainly ain't doom and gloom and is miles away from the whack it up there and let's see what happens days.
Well said Coldplay, best post of the day.
[quote][p][bold]coldplay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mkgoldenboys[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigmeuprudeboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mkgoldenboys[/bold] wrote: Normal Service has been Resumed. The rose tinted glasses fraternity seem a bit quieter than usual,not even a clean sheet to wax lyrical about. We are just as likely to be in a relegation scrap as sniffing around the playoff places.[/p][/quote]I wish I supported MK like you do, with its massive unfinished stadium and the 6k support and the 4k free tickets every week! Must be great[/p][/quote]Why is it that if you are not happy with the rubbish that is being served up and voice your opinion,you are shouted down. Looking for the smallest of positives from some of these performances is getting harder and harder,yet to point this out is treason. As for being a Don's fan,if I was,why would I care what was happening at Watford.[/p][/quote]MK, I think that is probably the perceived negative attitude that comes across in your posts that irritates people, that are, like you, upset with performances and want their club to do well. The use of the term rose tinted glasses, like happy clappers, can be considered sniping and will be perceived by some as a criticism of their unconditional support for their club. Maybe if you were to post something other than the same old couple of negative lines you wouldn't evoke the responses that you get...just a thought and always remembering that you, me and everyone else is entitled to their opinion. There is plenty that needs fixing on the pitch but it certainly ain't doom and gloom and is miles away from the whack it up there and let's see what happens days.[/p][/quote]Well said Coldplay, best post of the day. Stoney77
  • Score: 1

11:41pm Sun 12 Jan 14

PMJ1966 says...

Having a had a day or so to consider the performance I can't help but think stability and another striker is now key for survival or at least moving up the table. DF and FF are creative players but never Championship strikers. Troy needs someone to work with and build. Every team in this league who are doing anything have two decent strikers with a stabile midfield. To me George Thorne was just starting to shine and to let him now sit in WBA reserves is madness for us. We don't have time to bring in players and allow us to build up their fitness before returning back to where they have come from. January is going to make or break for us - bring in a decent Champioship striker to work with Troy and we might be surprised where we finish, if we don't then it will be squeaky bum time in April.
Having a had a day or so to consider the performance I can't help but think stability and another striker is now key for survival or at least moving up the table. DF and FF are creative players but never Championship strikers. Troy needs someone to work with and build. Every team in this league who are doing anything have two decent strikers with a stabile midfield. To me George Thorne was just starting to shine and to let him now sit in WBA reserves is madness for us. We don't have time to bring in players and allow us to build up their fitness before returning back to where they have come from. January is going to make or break for us - bring in a decent Champioship striker to work with Troy and we might be surprised where we finish, if we don't then it will be squeaky bum time in April. PMJ1966
  • Score: 2

9:14am Mon 13 Jan 14

Harry's Bar says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Thanks for the mess GZ.
Merkel - grow up or get lost
Saturday said more about the difficulties Zola faced than the difficulties he caused. If it was just about sorting out Zola's mess Saninno would have done it by now.

At least Merkel showed some passion unlike his midfield mate who ducked out when he thought he might get hurt.
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Thanks for the mess GZ. Merkel - grow up or get lost[/p][/quote]Saturday said more about the difficulties Zola faced than the difficulties he caused. If it was just about sorting out Zola's mess Saninno would have done it by now. At least Merkel showed some passion unlike his midfield mate who ducked out when he thought he might get hurt. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 1

12:43pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Kismet110 says...

We've had one win in 15 + 7 draws which equals ten points (from the last 45!) so pro rata that would be another 16 or so points IF we continue as we are.

Not being a doom and gloom merchant but for the first time this season the (distinct) thought of relegation has entered my mind. Teams at the bottom have ALL changed managers (bar Yeovil) recently so if a couple of those have the galvanising effect (especially that horrid little **** at Millwall) then the unthinkable could become reality.

ON THE OTHER HAND we've only lost a couple in the last 9 and with decent players coming back + hopefully one or two appropriate signings + a game in hand in 2/3 games time we could be nudging a play off place.

This is why we love football!
We've had one win in 15 + 7 draws which equals ten points (from the last 45!) so pro rata that would be another 16 or so points IF we continue as we are. Not being a doom and gloom merchant but for the first time this season the (distinct) thought of relegation has entered my mind. Teams at the bottom have ALL changed managers (bar Yeovil) recently so if a couple of those have the galvanising effect (especially that horrid little **** at Millwall) then the unthinkable could become reality. ON THE OTHER HAND we've only lost a couple in the last 9 and with decent players coming back + hopefully one or two appropriate signings + a game in hand in 2/3 games time we could be nudging a play off place. This is why we love football! Kismet110
  • Score: 4

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